man, u can't diss the orlando tragic! they played a great game. i can't even diss the eastern conference champs, the orlando tragic
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man, u can't diss the orlando tragic! they played a great game. i can't even diss the eastern conference champs, the orlando tragic
1 more to go. I will play better on Sunday, I'm tired as hell. That was a clutch team victory right there.
What Happened To Alston?
By Chris Broussard | ESPN The Magazine
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Conventional wisdom says there had to be a beef. An argument. Some bellyaching. A philosophical divide. Something.
Something had to happen between Stan Van Gundy and Rafer Alston during the second half of Game 4 Thursday night. Why else would the Orlando coach sit his starting point guard for the last 18 minutes, 28 seconds of the Magic's 99-91 overtime loss to the Los Angeles Lakers?
Especially when Jameer Nelson, fresh off a serious shoulder injury, wasn't exactly flashing his All-Star form. Especially when six days earlier, Van Gundy had admitted he erred by playing Nelson the entire second quarter of Game 1. Especially when, for all intents and purposes, the Magic's quest for its first NBA championship was on the line.
But apparently, there was nothing, nada, no disagreement at all. Apparently, Van Gundy's coaching instincts just told him to stick with Nelson, who produced two points and three assists all night, for the entire fourth quarter and overtime.
By Chris Broussard | ESPN The Magazine
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Conventional wisdom says there had to be a beef. An argument. Some bellyaching. A philosophical divide. Something.
Something had to happen between Stan Van Gundy and Rafer Alston during the second half of Game 4 Thursday night. Why else would the Orlando coach sit his starting point guard for the last 18 minutes, 28 seconds of the Magic's 99-91 overtime loss to the Los Angeles Lakers?
Especially when Jameer Nelson, fresh off a serious shoulder injury, wasn't exactly flashing his All-Star form. Especially when six days earlier, Van Gundy had admitted he erred by playing Nelson the entire second quarter of Game 1. Especially when, for all intents and purposes, the Magic's quest for its first NBA championship was on the line.
But apparently, there was nothing, nada, no disagreement at all. Apparently, Van Gundy's coaching instincts just told him to stick with Nelson, who produced two points and three assists all night, for the entire fourth quarter and overtime.
dumbest statement in the entire thread. What does that say about Ray, Pierce and KG?
@all the people who hate kobe so much, that they are now focusing on who should be the mvp. it doesnt matter, if the lakers win it all. I hope kobe does get mvp, gives you bitches more shit to complain about. Big shots by Ariza and Fish. Big plays from Odom (in the second half) and Gasol. Kobe good game on the boards and assists.
You people are pathetic. Complaining about who got fouled, all of our big men were in foul trouble before the 2nd qt. Go find something else to be mad about. Go surf the web and find sites to argue about kobe. Non-laker fans want to give Gasol props now. HE'S A LAKER.
Let it go Bruh. If that's yo team, its time to start focusing on next year. As for now...they dead Bruh!!!!
Orlando, will come out firing on all cylinders in Game 5... I think they'll get the win. Plus, the Magic have shown that they can play well enough to win in LA, so if they can get Game 6... we all know anything can happen in Game 7. I know it sounds far-fetched, but you never know... just ask the '07 Patriots.
Props to the Magic they came a long way but Dwight has to pay his dues. Kobe is finally going to get that 360 pound gorilla off his back. It is good to finally see the NBA improving again. We all know Cleveland will be better next year along with the rest of the playoff teams next year will be great for the fans.
You cats easily confuse best team with best individual player
Besides game one, Kobe has really been fucking up and shooting the ball like shit.
Dude the TEAM that wins it all is the BEST TEAM...that would be the Lakers...come sunday
they also have the best player (even lebron admits this) in the league RIGHT NOW...that would be Kobe
and they would not have gotten to the finals without him
sorry but that is a FACT. Kobe led this team to where it is right now. As much as you do not want to admit it ...that is the truth.
However, the Lakers would not have gotten to the finals without the excellent play of Pal Gasols...Derek Fischer(although he did struggle a bit)
I say just give credit where credit is due Lakers are 3-1 and unless some REALLY stupid shit happens next game....they win the Championship
oh and ROADRAGE
Lebron was not so CLUTCH when he NEEDED to be thats is why he's watching the finals AT HOME
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I already said the best TEAM is the Lakers. I've said that all year. However, Lebron played better all year and in the playoffs than Kobe. He was MUCH more productive against the Cavs and was clutch against the Cavs.
The issue is the Lakers are just a much more talented squad than the Cavs...period and are better coached (last night should show anyone how important coaches are). Kobe had games this playoffs where he barely scored double digits and the Lakers still won. The Cavs don't have the luxury if Lebron doesn't put up big numbers. Kobe fucked up in this series and what happens in two overtimes.. other plays like Gasol stepped up big in OT.. The Lakers are more talented team..and have much more experience than the Cavs and the Magic..
I agree with everything you said
But I would like to point out that Kobe has done something this season that he really did not do before and that is help make his TEAM better by trusting his teammates and not feeling like he HAS to take over every game. He has also done this during the playoff and only took over when he really needed to albeit sometimes he waited a little too late.
He's mature a bit definitely. However, besides game one, he's not shot well this series and has forced a lot of bad shots. The issue is that the Magic have not made the Lakers pay for it. Look at last night.. he shot 11-31... that's ridiculous.. but it doesn't matter because the lakers won. However, if Howard makes those free throws, people would be talking about how poorly Kobe has played the last 3 games.
The Lakers have been a different team since Gasol arrived. It was a sweetheart deal for them..as long as they stay healthy, they will be in the title hunt the next few years.
This is also the beauty of getting matched up with a team with no championship experience.. they will choke up and give you chances to win.. and the Lakers have executed when needed..
Ok so if we counting stars on bad teams then Kevin Durant must be GOD then? Let it go, the Cavs suck blah blah they are #1 team in the league blah blah stop cryin, they are chokers, who cares this is the NBA people get injured, suspended, etc and lose series Cavs just choked leave it be, stop the what ifs and it's just that's let the damn black man shine you are witnessing the greatest in this era if u ain't from ORL put down the haterade and pop some champagne
1 more game 
This is true. But his assist # are quite impressive. Although, he probably could have hit the 20 assist mark in yesterdays game had he not taken so many shots. During the last play of regulation, i said "please dont give the ball to kobe". And even in OT, ok, he scores 2 baskets, fine, pass the ball. he made a good decision by kicking it to Fish.
But you understand crazy ass Anne Rayn tho...
Your post didn't make sense. Maybe you want to go back and edit..
Stupid double-team by Nelson...good pass to Fisher...and Fisher can be broke all game..shit all series... but in the situation, you KNOW he's going to hit it... both 3s...I was like game-time
edit.. the assist to Gasol to cut it down to 3 was nice
Your post didn't make sense. Maybe you want to go back and edit..
Nah, ........Just read the really big font in case you missed it
Even still, the Lakers offense is a lot more effective when Kobe Bryant is facilitating. Kobe takes bad shots, and he always has. I don't know why he feels the need to shoot such deep and difficult fall-aways, but that's just the way he chooses to play. I have no doubt, with his skills, if he took better shots, he'd shoot a very high percentage. Believe me, as a fan, sometimes I cringe at the shots he take.
The difference in this series is, he's making his teammates better. If anyone would have said Kobe would have averaged 8 assist's in the Finals, they would have been laughed off of the internet. Pau is very good, but the Lakers benefit tremendously from opposing coaches obsession with stopping Kobe.
Kobe will never be Michael Jordan, because his shot selection pales in comparison. His shot selection pales in comparison to Dwyane and Lebron's. I've seen games where Kobe would purposely take threes from VERY deep. It's almost as if he thinks the game would be boring if he played it more efficiently.
People say Kobe is a streaky shooter - but anyone would be a streaky shooter if they were dream-shaking from 15 + feet every play.
Kobe obviously decided he needed to distribute more, and he's doing that. It's something people felt was not a part of his game, but he's doing it. How? The guy is as skilled as any player to play the game, period. Jordan shot a high percentage than Kobe, but guess what? Jordan know he was a below average three-point shooter, and stayed from behind the line. It didn't make sense, to him, to shoot a lot of three's. Kobe has over 3000 three's taken, and Jordan has a less than 2000 for his CAREER.
Eewwll, this is why I feel people go wrong when comparing Kobe to to other superstars, based on shooting percentage. If you based it on shooting percentage, Kobe wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as the top players in the game, from any era. He plays the game, offensively, with a higher degree of difficulty than anyone else. That's why even Jordan would call Kobe the best of his generation, even though his shooting percentage suggested otherwise.
Damn, I've typed entirely too much.
Nah, ........Just read the really big font in case you missed it
I still don't get what you are saying
I said, before the playoffs started, that the Lakers would probably win as they are the best team in the league...and when they play good defense, it's hard to beat them. Everything else, we are all just debating how the games have been played.. so I still don't get your point... sounds like you are just rambling
On another note, I hope the Magic don't bitch out and lose on Sunday.. they won't win the series..at least put up a fight though... give me as long a series as we can get..because gotta wait several months to watch football and basketball again...baseball is boring as shit 
I still don't get what you are saying
Okay Take Your Time With this...
1. Look at the post you made about the cavs I quoted
2. Read the large font in said corresponding post
3. Stop playing dumb
Black Mamba rules all.
Yeah.. when those cats are knocking down shots too..the Lakers can blow even good teams out.
luke had a good game too. I still would like to see him be more agressive and stop hesitating. But he makes good decisions.
Luke has actually played well the last two games. You know he's in the game when he gets put in. He's looking to score, playing aggressive defense, and hustling...
ron jeremy needs to give-up coaching and go back to fucking on film. wait, he needs to give that up too.
and he needs to tell his brother, uncle fester, to STFU when other commentators are talking. if he knows so much about the game, then he too would still be coaching.
ron jeremy needs to give-up coaching and go back to fucking on film. wait, he needs to give that up too.
and he needs to tell his brother, uncle fester, to STFU when other commentators are talking. if he knows so much about the game, then he too would still be coaching.
Props!
I expect this gif to be posted a lot
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