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cranrab,

Good observation on "The Closer"... I guess its just easy to forget stuff like that; I generally try to ignore promos and it doesn't stick in my mind. It doesn't get more superficial than that.

I've never asked another poster their race in all my time here, it really doesn't matter to me, but I have to ask you with all this "Tobe" shit... Are you white? What is the point?
 
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Costanza said:
cranrab,

Good observation on "The Closer"... I guess its just easy to forget stuff like that; I generally try to ignore promos and it doesn't stick in my mind. It doesn't get more superficial than that.

I've never asked another poster their race in all my time here, it really doesn't matter to me, but I have to ask you with all this "Tobe" shit... Are you white? What is the point?
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sigh....

NO, i am NOT white. what is your ethnicity?

and you are capable of answering your second question. it seems you are making some sort of literary allusion to alex haley's "toby". is that the case?

if you are, then i would suggest you read the book instead of watching levar burton. you'd then be able to answer your own question. it's a little bit sad that you don't understand the "tobe shit" without an explanation.
 
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cranrab said:
sigh....

NO, i am NOT white. what is your ethnicity?

and you are capable of answering your second question. it seems you are making some sort of literary allusion to alex haley's "toby". is that the case?

if you are, then i would suggest you read the book instead of watching levar burton. you'd then be able to answer your own question. it's a little bit sad that you don't understand the "tobe shit" without an explanation.
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Nah, I haven't read Roots. There's a lot of classic shit out there that all of us haven't read; nobody's up on everything. I haven't even seen the miniseries, in fact.

I can think of sadder things than my lack of knowledge in this specific area.

I've just noticed your compulsive use of the nickname, I don't think its out of bounds to ask why you do it. And, given the nature of the reference, I don't think its especially absurd to ask if you're white-- it could be taken as a bit Stormfrontish.

So, given the fact that there are other materials in front of that on my reading list and it would require more time than its worth to read it for the sake of understanding your Kobe Bryant analogy, could you answer the second question?
 
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Costanza said:
it could be taken as a bit Stormfrontish.

So, given the fact that there are other materials in front of that on my reading list and it would require more time than its worth to read it for the sake of understanding your Kobe Bryant analogy, could you answer the second question?
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i'm sure it could be construed to be a great many things. stormfront-ish wouldn't have been at the top of any of my lists of guesses. but in a void, some people feel compelled to fill said void in with anything that pops into their heads, so...

seeing as how the check HNIC cuts me every week isn't really equal to that of an american literature undergrad professor, i'll deny your request for an explanation until i see my cut from this month's donations.

but don't worry, there are probably at least a handful of people on BGOL who comprehend the allusion, or maybe skimmed the cliff notes and can take a stab at it. but in the spirit of the socratic method, i can be a good sport and start you on your way: who created toby and why?

edit: i got a kick out of you describing my use of the name tobe as compulsive. are the people who photoshop tracy mcgrady's picture compulsive too? or are you just sensitive about comments directed at specific individuals?
 
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cranrab said:
i'm sure it could be construed to be a great many things. stormfront-ish wouldn't have been at the top of any of my lists of guesses. but in a void, some people feel compelled to fill said void in with anything that pops into their heads, so...

seeing as how the check HNIC cuts me every week isn't really equal to that of an american literature undergrad professor, i'll deny your request for an explanation until i see my cut from this month's donations.

but don't worry, there are probably at least a handful of people on BGOL who comprehend the allusion, or maybe skimmed the cliff notes and can take a stab at it. but in the spirit of the socratic method, i can be a good sport and start you on your way: who created toby and why?
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If you don't understand how a white poster on BGOL constantly comparing Kobe Bryant to a slave from Roots could be taken as Stormfrontish, you're not as smart as you think you are.

And I've seen you offer to breakdown games for anyone willing to sit up and go through it with you, so unless HNIC is cutting you a check for your work as a sports analyst, your attempted sarcasm is just stupidity.
 
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Costanza said:
If you don't understand how a white poster on BGOL constantly comparing Kobe Bryant to a slave from Roots could be taken as Stormfrontish, you're not as smart as you think you are.
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that would be a reasonable response except for 2 things:

(a) again, NOT white

and

(b) it's not understandable how a person who has admitted not having read roots (or even watched it) could even muster ANY position (racist or otherwise) about tobe and the character toby.

edit: oh wait a minute. you employing a logical fallacy like "begging the question" is sort of understandable. my bad.

and thanks for your input about sarcasm, but comments from a "dude" who thinks operating a second username as YAHWEH is humorous doesn't hold much weight.
 
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Costanza said:
And, given the nature of the reference, I don't think its especially absurd to ask if you're white-- it could be taken as a bit Stormfrontish.
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cranrab said:
i'm sure it could be construed to be a great many things. stormfront-ish wouldn't have been at the top of any of my lists of guesses. but in a void, some people feel compelled to fill said void in with anything that pops into their heads, so...
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cranrab said:
that would be a reasonable response except for 2 things:

(a) again, NOT white

and
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Damn are you hung up on that... I clearly said that it could be taken as Stormfrontish coming from a white poster on BGOL. You said you weren't that and I never questioned it, so just get over it.

cranrab said:
(b) it's not understandable how a person who has admitted not having read roots (or even watched it) could even muster ANY position (racist or otherwise) about tobe and the character toby.

and thanks for your input about sarcasm, but comments from a "dude" who thinks operating a second username as YAHWEH is humorous doesn't hold much weight.
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You don't understand the difference between asking a question and taking a position? Don't hold your breath for that job as a professor in the English department...

And plenty of people thought Yahweh was funny. I found it to be humorous. Plenty of people didn't. I don't really care.

Nice deflection, though... Doesn't change the point about you demanding a check for your "analysis."
 
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Costanza said:
Nice deflection, though... Doesn't change the point about you demanding a check for your "analysis."
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deflection? i was extremely generous in starting you on your way. after all, you were genuine in your inquiry, right?

and who makes demands? HNIC is making so much money in ad-click revenue that he just hops in the G250 and hand delivers me a check every week. but only during basketball season, because that's when my posts bring in the most traffic.
 
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cranrab said:
edit: i got a kick out of you describing my use of the name tobe as compulsive. are the people who photoshop tracy mcgrady's picture compulsive too? or are you just sensitive about comments directed at specific individuals?
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http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?p=6165476&highlight=mcgrady#post6165476

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?p=6360526&highlight=mcgrady#post6360526

:rolleyes:

It's principle with me; you're the one well known to be obsessed with a specific individual.

And oh yeah....

cranrab said:
1st time ever on BGOL.

i'm willing to sit through the replay on ESPN right now and break down plays for free for anyone interested.
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The would-be professor's time is very valuable!!! How could it be that nobody took you up on such a rare opportunity that you'd offer your porn board commentary for free?!?
 
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Costanza said:
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?p=6165476&highlight=mcgrady#post6165476

:rolleyes:

It's principle with me; you're the one well known to be obsessed with a specific individual.
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that's a pretty desperate reach. more to the point, apples and oranges.

you just provided a link to a thread where you posted a defense of tracy mcgrady. unfortunately, you didn't show where you accused any of the instigators in the thread of being compulsive. but i guess those gifs and photoshopped images just materialized out of nowhere.

because everyone knows saving pics of dudes to your HDD or online storage isn't compulsive. right?

edit: thanks for editing your original post and adding a 2nd link. which provides more evidence that you don't insist that any other individuals are compulsive or obsessive. i guess you are sensitive to remarks about only certain individuals.

and the other comment either went right over your head, or you purposely omitted the comments that followed. either possibility, no surprise.
 
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cranrab said:
that's a pretty desperate reach. more to the point, apples and oranges.

you just provided a link to a thread where you posted a defense of tracy mcgrady. unfortunately, you didn't show where you accused any of the instigators in the thread of being compulsive. but i guess those gifs and photoshopped images just materialized out of nowhere.

because everyone knows saving pics of dudes to your HDD or online storage isn't compulsive. right?

edit: thanks for editing your original post and adding a 2nd link. which provides more evidence that you don't insist that any other individuals are compulsive or obsessive. i guess you are sensitive to remarks about only certain individuals.

and the other comment either went right over your head, or you purposely omitted the comments that followed. either possibility, no surprise.
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The word compulsive wasn't used because I don't know any single poster who posted such pics for months and months the way you've gone on about "Tobe" for months and months (probably years and years)...

Anyway, I'm done for tonight. You don't have to answer my simple question, though it shouldn't have been such a big deal...
 
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cranrab said:
what?

that m.f. got eewwll a geo metro?

all i got was a coupon for a huffy at toys r us.

:angry:
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well eewwll does now stay somewhere where small compact cars are a need.

and you stay in the mountains so i guess a huffy mountain bike is ok.

hell rollie fingaz got a sled.
 
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There are worse things than instigating on the Internet...

Anyway, Shaddy, cranrab, I'm out, gotta get up early so me and Patrick Ewing can break down film for the game tomorrow.
 
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Costanza said:
And plenty of people thought Yahweh was funny. I found it to be humorous. Plenty of people didn't. I don't really care.

Nice deflection, though... Doesn't change the point about you demanding a check for your "analysis."
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Oh shit..I didn't read that thread although it always pops up on the main age... you really were that Yahweh username? :lol:
 
Re: Magic Thread

Pau Gasol should be getting more shots

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090611

Henry Abbott, TrueHoop: I'm watching for the ratio of Bryant field-goal attempts to Gasol field-goal attempts. If that ratio is greater than 3:1, Orlando wins. If it's below, then Game 4 is a dogfight.

Chris Broussard, ESPN The Magazine: I'm looking forward to seeing whether or not the Lakers give Pau Gasol more touches. Will they have more of an equal-opportunity offense where Gasol and Lamar Odom get truly involved or will Kobe continue to average 27 shots a game.?
 
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eewwll said:
Pau Gasol should be getting more shots

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090611

Henry Abbott, TrueHoop: I'm watching for the ratio of Bryant field-goal attempts to Gasol field-goal attempts. If that ratio is greater than 3:1, Orlando wins. If it's below, then Game 4 is a dogfight.

Chris Broussard, ESPN The Magazine: I'm looking forward to seeing whether or not the Lakers give Pau Gasol more touches. Will they have more of an equal-opportunity offense where Gasol and Lamar Odom get truly involved or will Kobe continue to average 27 shots a game.?
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it sucks that this even has to be brought up. sometimes i sit there and wish kobe wasnt in the game. odom defers to him a lot, Fish and Ariza as well. But Pao doesnt, once pao gets the ball, hes going to work. Even farmar didnt defer to kobe in the last game, and he hit some big shots. Kobe does not have to touch the ball every time down the court.
 
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TimRock said:
it sucks that this even has to be brought up. sometimes i sit there and wish kobe wasnt in the game. odom defers to him a lot, Fish and Ariza as well. But Pao doesnt, once pao gets the ball, hes going to work. Even farmar didnt defer to kobe in the last game, and he hit some big shots. Kobe does not have to touch the ball every time down the court.
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Odom should be more aggressive. When he is aggressive he is tough to deal with..he caused all kinds of problems.

In Paul's cause.. because he doesn't handle the rock..he has to be given the ball.. it's almost certainly an issue of the guards not getting him the ball enough. I mean dude is shooting a crazy high percentage in these playoffs.

Will be interesting to see how Game 4 starts. The Lakers should try to establish the post with both Gasol and Bynum..and even Odom.. for one.. it will open things up for other players... but the added benefit is that Howard is very prone to getting into foul trouble...
 
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eewwll said:
Will be interesting to see how Game 4 starts. The Lakers should try to establish the post with both Gasol and Bynum..and even Odom.. for one.. it will open things up for other players... but the added benefit is that Howard is very prone to getting into foul trouble...
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G3 started out that way, with all the important fakers touching the ball and converting. didn't they start off 8-2?
 
Am I the only one noticing that when a team attempts more threes than the Magic that things usually do not end well for that team?
 
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