The Official Lakers Vs. Magic Thread
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3 things really stood out to me...
1. LA Missed Free Throws
They usually shoot really well from the line. But tonight Kobe struggled.
2. Bad Calls For LA.
Even though Kobe got alot of fouls called in his favor, there were a quite few early on in the first quarter that the refs missed. Pau also got fouled pretty badly a few times in the 4th qtr, but didn't receive the 'and 1's'.
But the BIGGEST missed call (in my book) was that double dribble by Pietrus in the 1st half on the fast break.
Mainly because it was the EASIEST call to make the entire game.
Fouls get debated left, right & center unless it's REALLY obvious.
But this ONE missed call could have tied the game down the stretch for LA.
3. Magic Offense (The Guards Came To Play)
- First, everyone contributed buckets. (Had 5 guys in double digits.)
- Also, they shot the lights out. (62% I think)
- Rafer had his BEST game of the series and looked VERY crisp at the start.
- Nelson played just enough minutes to contribute without messing up the chemistry.
- Pietrus made a few BIG plays.
- Lee didn't get abused too badly on D and even had 1 MONSTER DUNK.
- Overall, their timing on feeding the ball to Howard in the post was ALOT better.
- Plus they threw it 'over the top' a few times, and Howard either got fouled, or made easy buckets.
1. LA Missed Free Throws
They usually shoot really well from the line. But tonight Kobe struggled.
2. Bad Calls For LA.
Even though Kobe got alot of fouls called in his favor, there were a quite few early on in the first quarter that the refs missed. Pau also got fouled pretty badly a few times in the 4th qtr, but didn't receive the 'and 1's'.
But the BIGGEST missed call (in my book) was that double dribble by Pietrus in the 1st half on the fast break.
Mainly because it was the EASIEST call to make the entire game.
Fouls get debated left, right & center unless it's REALLY obvious.
But this ONE missed call could have tied the game down the stretch for LA.
3. Magic Offense (The Guards Came To Play)
- First, everyone contributed buckets. (Had 5 guys in double digits.)
- Also, they shot the lights out. (62% I think)
- Rafer had his BEST game of the series and looked VERY crisp at the start.
- Nelson played just enough minutes to contribute without messing up the chemistry.
- Pietrus made a few BIG plays.
- Lee didn't get abused too badly on D and even had 1 MONSTER DUNK.
- Overall, their timing on feeding the ball to Howard in the post was ALOT better.
- Plus they threw it 'over the top' a few times, and Howard either got fouled, or made easy buckets.
Gasol should have got way more shot attempts.
Gasol 9 of 11
Bryant 11 of 25
You don't say.And lakers fans wonder why the team loses games it should have won.
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This game I was Bettin over W/ Orlando.. w/ some street cats....Still woulda won w/ total points tho.. I had the straight W too..Glad I didn't bet the sweep for LA...
More than 210 tonight..
Got The Lakers to win It all tho..
This game I was Bettin over W/ Orlando.. w/ some street cats....Still woulda won w/ total points tho.. I had the straight W too..Glad I didn't bet the sweep for LA...
More than 210 tonight..
Got The Lakers to win It all tho..
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you wouldn't have been taunting me.
you would've been congratulating me.
tobe took 10 FGAs in Q1, how did that impact the fakers in Q2? magic win Q2 by 9?
all that magic voodoo hocus pocus.
you wouldn't have been taunting me.
you would've been congratulating me.
tobe took 10 FGAs in Q1, how did that impact the fakers in Q2? magic win Q2 by 9?
all that magic voodoo hocus pocus.
Magic Thread
you fucking haters.
why the hell should a dude who's shooting only 81.8% get more shots?
i swear tobe must've stole your lunch money to bring up some outlandish shit like this.
Gasol should have got way more shot attempts.
Gasol 9 of 11
Bryant 11 of 25
you fucking haters.
why the hell should a dude who's shooting only 81.8% get more shots?
i swear tobe must've stole your lunch money to bring up some outlandish shit like this.
in order to drop 4 games like that u would have had to figure out ur opponent.
example of this : in 06 the heat realized nobody on the mavs could guard d.wade going to the hoop. they toyed around with the offense for 2 games and then realized "damn nobody on their team can even slow d.wade down" then they just gave it to him and told him to put his hat down. they were right cause nobody on the mavs could check wade going 2 the hoop without fouling.
so essentially everyone who says the lakers have stuff to worry about are saying: THE MAGIC HAVE FIGURED THE LAKERS OUT THE WAY TO BEAT THEM IS TO SHOOT 64% FROM THE FIELD
Not saying that the Magic will win 4 straight, but if they do win the series, then there is something noticeable I've seen that could help them get this...
True but the Magic were able to win despite Howard fouling out on more than one occasion against the Cavs. The Lakers do have a huge advantage if Howard is off the floor (shoot, even at times when he is on the floor), just depends on if the Lakers will be able to expose them...
Gasol should have got way more shot attempts.
Gasol 9 of 11
Bryant 11 of 25
I hope this doesn't continue...Like we're going through flashbacks of last year...
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Those NBA players you watch the game with must have some good drugs at their parties, man...
So Kobe shooting in the first quarter (and shooting well) is the reason the Magic won the second quarter???
Those NBA players you watch the game with must have some good drugs at their parties, man...
When has that team proven that it can handle adversity? Don't tell me that the Game 7 win against the Houston Rockets is your proof.
this is where u divide the real fans from the bandwagoners
this whole season was adversity ... the lakers came from nowhere last year at the start of last season people were wondering if kobe was gonna stay in LA. he was almost traded to the bulls and folks were saying they weren't even gonna make the playoffs... then outta nowhere kobe pulled an MVP outta his hat , bynum got some game ... then got hurt , then mitch turned kwame brown and some magic dust into pau gasol. the lakers gathered steam and powered thru the playoffs , people had them as the favorites in the finals but really they were young and inexperienced and were nothing more than a team that folks shoulda been happy with even getting as far as they did. THEN THEY GOT THEIR ASS KICKED BY THE CELTICS.
not only did they have to deal with a summer of wondering why and trying to get better but they had to deal with the fact their dream season got stomped out by the fucking celtics of all teams
so they dedicated this whole season to getting back to this point , to getting back to the moment and grabbing it.
but they didnt realize that they had become the hunted ... nobody was surprised by them anymore in fact EVERY TEAM circled the date on their calendar. EVERY TEAM TRIED TO SHOW OUT AGAINST THE LAKERS (bynum even got hurt again)... i saw plenty of games this season and i've seen players do shit they have never done ever do it against the lakers simply because the lakers were the HUNTED... all while being "the favorites" and being expected to step up to the plate
Most teams would have crumbled under that pressure in fact an example of this would be the hornets... they had a silly dream season last year too ... this year teams we're gunning for cp3 and u saw what happened.
the fact the lakers are even back in the finals is a testament to the adversity they have faced. it's made them tougher and now they are back at the point they were at last year. they will close this year because their whole season a much harder season has been dedicated to this one moment...
that's the problem with the haters , they just blindly do what they do. they hate the brand so instead of looking at the blood , sweat and tears that goes into the championship they find ways to diminish the hard work this team has put in. coming from a true fan when they win this ring , they will have more than earned it and they will do it because it's their duty... they are part of a tradition , they have a bigger responsibility than other teams just like the celtics had the same responsibility last year.
great organizations step up to the plate and win ... this team is part of a great organization called : THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Men get old , men die ... only tradition and institution live on ... everyone on that team knows that and this is why they will win this year... it was written.
greatness begets greatness
keep hatin'
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Yeah, you're right, the fact that a team has managed its way out of the situation in the past means its not a stressful situation.Just like it was for the Phoenix Suns a few years ago
I heard about a guy who got hit by a train and lived ten years ago, so that ought to be a breeze as well for anybody today!!!
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it's possible that the volume of shooting by Bryant stifled the offensive rhythm of the Lakers in the 2nd and 3rd quarters...
When the ball doesn't move around the court, then the offense becomes more predictable...Defenses can close in on the ball handler or the man on ball has the chance to pressure the ball handler more...
it's possible that the volume of shooting by Bryant stifled the offensive rhythm of the Lakers in the 2nd and 3rd quarters...
When the ball doesn't move around the court, then the offense becomes more predictable...Defenses can close in on the ball handler or the man on ball has the chance to pressure the ball handler more...
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yes, because taking (illegal?) drugs in your seats at the staples center is condoned and advocated.
yes, because taking (illegal?) drugs in your seats at the staples center is condoned and advocated.
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Seriously, looking just at quarter one, can you admit his individual performance was phenomenal?
He does need to realize he doesn't get extra points for degree of difficulty, but it can be amazing to watch.
Prescription shit? Bathroom breaks???
Seriously, looking just at quarter one, can you admit his individual performance was phenomenal?
He does need to realize he doesn't get extra points for degree of difficulty, but it can be amazing to watch.
Great shooting by the Magic not withstanding, missed free throws and poor excecution(turnovers) down the stretch is what cost the Lakers this game.
did u see when he drove to the rack during crunch time and double pumped it
niggah youre almost 7 feet!!!!!
try to dunk that bitch!!!!
i just typed this fuckery
this dude is a waste of height
he's the first black man ever with a euro game
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It's also possible that the threat of Kobe opens things up for other players... People love to try to hang "Tobe" (what kind of racist white boy nickname is that shit for nobody to call it out???) with Gasol's shooting percentage but he gets easier attempts when the focus is not on him...
Jelly Bean missed 5 free-throws
Gasol should have got way more shot attempts.
Gasol 9 of 11
Bryant 11 of 25
Gasol has been shooting a very high percentage during the playoffs..he definitely should be getting more shots
rashard lewis stealing money.
Jelly Bean missed 5 free-throws
Surprising. Kobe is not the "best closer in the game" like he's made out to be. However, he's usually solid on the free throw line. I was surprised by how many he missed..unlike him. Kind of reminded me of Billups during the denver-la series.. a 90 percent free throw shooter who missed a lot of free throws in that series.
miami heat was down 0-2 also.
sorry D-town.
sorry D-town.
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i've been in and around the game long enough to see what you call "phenomenal" (and better) with regard to shooting and scoring: chris mullin, terry teagle, eric floyd to name a few.
in tobe's case, you need to understand that performances like that of Q1 are going to be few and far between. as such, they are anomalies and aberrations. more often you'll see a Q1 performance tempered by that of what you saw from him in Q2 and Q3.
but hey, if you think it's natural, normal or acceptable for 1 player to take 41% of an ENTIRE team's shots in any given quarter, who am i to disagree?
if you think it's healthy for team chemistry and teammate performance to have 1 player take 10 shots in less than 6 minutes (at their expense), then again, who am i to disagree?
i mean, that wouldn't have any negative residual effects on teammates in the following quarter, right?
i've been in and around the game long enough to see what you call "phenomenal" (and better) with regard to shooting and scoring: chris mullin, terry teagle, eric floyd to name a few.
in tobe's case, you need to understand that performances like that of Q1 are going to be few and far between. as such, they are anomalies and aberrations. more often you'll see a Q1 performance tempered by that of what you saw from him in Q2 and Q3.
but hey, if you think it's natural, normal or acceptable for 1 player to take 41% of an ENTIRE team's shots in any given quarter, who am i to disagree?
if you think it's healthy for team chemistry and teammate performance to have 1 player take 10 shots in less than 6 minutes (at their expense), then again, who am i to disagree?
i mean, that wouldn't have any negative residual effects on teammates in the following quarter, right?
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because phil jackson paid them b4 the game
on another note.. How in the fuck did the refs miss that double dribble by Pietrus
because phil jackson paid them b4 the game
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kobe scored 40 points 8 assits and 8 rebounds cranrab.
kobe scored 40 points 8 assits and 8 rebounds cranrab.
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so has tracy mcgrady, SVT.
kobe scored 40 points 8 assits and 8 rebounds cranrab.
so has tracy mcgrady, SVT.
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