Any Supporters for April 15 Tea Parties OR Do Yall Like All The New Taxes?

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:D:D:D:D Honest question! We need smaller govt and less govt spending. One thing we can do is end these Wars. OK, Deal Or No Deal?

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Tea parties:lol:

Political activism: Fox News aggressively promotes anti-Obama "Tea Parties"

The 2009 equivalent of the Contract on America

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I don't like Obama and his policies, but this really pisses me off.

Where were these a**holes when Bush was tearing the country apart?

Blatant racism, pure and simple. You just can't give honkeys any credit. :rolleyes:
 
I don't like Obama and his policies, but this really pisses me off.

Where were these a**holes when Bush was tearing the country apart?
Blatant racism, pure and simple. You just can't give honkeys any credit. :rolleyes:

My point exactly. What I desire, is for people to see through the BS BOTH parties are feeding to us. IMO, this is so much deeper than racism. All these efforts are done to keep people divided. We really need to come together and recognize the game they are playing. Divide and conquer!

Cruise, you mentioned in a previous post which I can't recall right now, but, Clinton laid the groundwork, Bush implemented it, now Obama will expand it. Both parties are playing against each other but it's obvious goal is one-world govt. which both sides are marching towards.
 
Now you know it don't work like that! :)

Sez who?

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not to be confrontational but the way the tax structure is set up: the poor, middle class, and those on retired incomes suffer the most. Not to bring up names, but those millionaires and billionaires you speak of, know the loopholes or they simply don't pay taxes.

Check out this video from Code Pink (leftist org) and how they popped up in a Larry Summers interview, its pretty funny! Its a legit argument whether you're on the left or right.

http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.ht...//media2.bloomberg.com/cache/vWUwDBmvyTxo.asf
 
not to be confrontational but the way the tax structure is set up: the poor, middle class, and those on retired incomes suffer the most. Not to bring up names, but those millionaires and billionaires you speak of, know the loopholes or they simply don't pay taxes.

Check out this video from Code Pink (leftist org) and how they popped up in a Larry Summers interview, its pretty funny! Its a legit argument whether you're on the left or right.

http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.ht...//media2.bloomberg.com/cache/vWUwDBmvyTxo.asf

If it is a "leftist" web site as you say, they wouldn't prop up Summers. The "left" as you put them want no part of bailing out corporations. The conservative democrats (ok, they are popularly known as moderates) and underneath the veneer, the republicans such as Bush want that. As far as loop holes, ever time a tax break is passed by some legislator, state or federal, that is another loop hole for the tax lawyers, a job category that has been given way too much importance, can exploit. Is there any reason why their is so much resistance to exposing these hidden accounts in tax havens around the world? We need to go back to pre Reagan policies. The defect was under a trillion, cost of living was manageable and as a country, we had a manufacturing base.
 
We need to go back to pre Reagan policies. The defect was under a trillion, cost of living was manageable and as a country, we had a manufacturing base.

OMG!!!! Thought is making a case to cut govt. spending! Your making me proud and you're 100% correct! Why, because the less they spend, the less they need to tax. Lets start wit these:
1) End the War on Drugs
2) Hell, End the Wars
3) Eliminate the Dept of Homeland Security
4) Eliminate the Dept of the Interior
5) Major cuts in the Dept of Treasury until they can proove their worth
6) Eliminate Fannie & Freddie
7) Eliminate SCHIP - We didn't have SCHIP pre-Reagan

See, if we advocated less govt spending/no bailouts, we wouldn't be taxed so much! peace
 
OMG!!!! Thought is making a case to cut govt. spending! Your making me proud and you're 100% correct! Why, because the less they spend, the less they need to tax. Lets start wit these:
1) End the War on Drugs
2) Hell, End the Wars
3) Eliminate the Dept of Homeland Security
4) Eliminate the Dept of the Interior
5) Major cuts in the Dept of Treasury until they can proove their worth
6) Eliminate Fannie & Freddie
7) Eliminate SCHIP - We didn't have SCHIP pre-Reagan

See, if we advocated less govt spending/no bailouts, we wouldn't be taxed so much! peace

As long as we have those loan sharks at "The Fed", we're not getting rid of most of those
 
OMG!!!! Thought is making a case to cut govt. spending! Your making me proud and you're 100% correct! Why, because the less they spend, the less they need to tax. Lets start wit these:
1) End the War on Drugs
2) Hell, End the Wars
3) Eliminate the Dept of Homeland Security
4) Eliminate the Dept of the Interior
5) Major cuts in the Dept of Treasury until they can proove their worth
6) Eliminate Fannie & Freddie
7) Eliminate SCHIP - We didn't have SCHIP pre-Reagan

See, if we advocated less govt spending/no bailouts, we wouldn't be taxed so much! peace

End supply side Reganomics! I never understood supply side?
 
My point exactly. What I desire, is for people to see through the BS BOTH parties are feeding to us. IMO, this is so much deeper than racism. All these efforts are done to keep people divided. We really need to come together and recognize the game they are playing. Divide and conquer!

Cruise, you mentioned in a previous post which I can't recall right now, but, Clinton laid the groundwork, Bush implemented it, now Obama will expand it. Both parties are playing against each other but it's obvious goal is one-world govt. which both sides are marching towards.


I always liked this quote by Dubois.

W.E.B. Du Bois
"The two parties have combined against us to nullify our power by a ‘gentleman's agreement' of non-recognition, no matter how we vote ... May God write us down as asses if ever again we are found putting our trust in either the Republican or the Democratic Parties." (1922)


On another note, maybe we can arrest these Republican demonstrators on grounds of terrorism, much like they did the protesters outside of the RNC.
 
W.E.B. Du Bois
"The two parties have combined against us to nullify our power by a ‘gentleman's agreement' of non-recognition, no matter how we vote ... May God write us down as asses if ever again we are found putting our trust in either the Republican or the Democratic Parties." (1922)

damn, thats classic! words I live by

On another note, maybe we can arrest these Republican demonstrators on grounds of terrorism, much like they did the protesters outside of the RNC.

Nah, because you don't have to protect popular speech, It is 'unpopular' speech that needs protection under the 1st Amendment

While I won't be there, I support them cuz we gettin taxed too damn much. And we bailin out crooked-azz bankers who made irresponsible decisions. Let them fail! I really don't see this as a partisan issue but I know FoxNews will turn it into one
 
Fuck Fox Nexs!! They didn't say shit when Bush fucked up the country!!

Who the hell the Republicans think they are? GODS!!??


:angry::angry::smh::smh::hmm::hmm:
 
its called sarcasm.

I know we both agree on Obama being a pussy...or do we?

You’re becoming famous for putting words in other people’s mouths.

Obama is not a pussy, but Bush is an asshole.

BTW, you didn't answer my earlier question. Did you vote for a president in 2000, 2004 and 2008 for that matter?
 
source: New York Times

Tea Parties Forever

This is a column about Republicans — and I’m not sure I should even be writing it.

Today’s G.O.P. is, after all, very much a minority party. It retains some limited ability to obstruct the Democrats, but has no ability to make or even significantly shape policy.

Beyond that, Republicans have become embarrassing to watch. And it doesn’t feel right to make fun of crazy people. Better, perhaps, to focus on the real policy debates, which are all among Democrats.

<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">But here’s the thing: the G.O.P. looked as crazy 10 or 15 years ago as it does now. That didn’t stop Republicans from taking control of both Congress and the White House. And they could return to power if the Democrats stumble. So it behooves us to look closely at the state of what is, after all, one of our nation’s two great political parties.</SPAN>

One way to get a good sense of the current state of the G.O.P., and also to see how little has really changed, is to look at the “tea parties” that have been held in a number of places already, and will be held across the country on Wednesday. These parties — antitaxation demonstrations that are supposed to evoke the memory of the Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution — have been the subject of considerable mockery, and rightly so.

But everything that critics mock about these parties has long been standard practice within the Republican Party.

Thus, President Obama is being called a “socialist” who seeks to destroy capitalism. Why? Because he wants to raise the tax rate on the highest-income Americans back to, um, about 10 percentage points less than it was for most of the Reagan administration. Bizarre.

But the charge of socialism is being thrown around only because “liberal” doesn’t seem to carry the punch it used to. And if you go back just a few years, you find top Republican figures making equally bizarre claims about what liberals were up to. Remember when Karl Rove declared that liberals wanted to offer “therapy and understanding” to the 9/11 terrorists?

Then there are the claims made at some recent tea-party events that Mr. Obama wasn’t born in America, which follow on earlier claims that he is a secret Muslim. Crazy stuff — but nowhere near as crazy as the claims, during the last Democratic administration, that the Clintons were murderers, claims that were supported by a campaign of innuendo on the part of big-league conservative media outlets and figures, especially Rush Limbaugh.

Speaking of Mr. Limbaugh: the most impressive thing about his role right now is the fealty he is able to demand from the rest of the right. The abject apologies he has extracted from Republican politicians who briefly dared to criticize him have been right out of Stalinist show trials. But while it’s new to have a talk-radio host in that role, ferocious party discipline has been the norm since the 1990s, when Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, became known as “The Hammer” in part because of the way he took political retribution on opponents.

Going back to those tea parties, Mr. DeLay, a fierce opponent of the theory of evolution — he famously suggested that the teaching of evolution led to the Columbine school massacre — also foreshadowed the denunciations of evolution that have emerged at some of the parties.

Last but not least: it turns out that the tea parties don’t represent a spontaneous outpouring of public sentiment. They’re AstroTurf (fake grass roots) events, manufactured by the usual suspects. In particular, a key role is being played by FreedomWorks, an organization run by Richard Armey, the former House majority leader, and supported by the usual group of right-wing billionaires. And the parties are, of course, being promoted heavily by Fox News.

But that’s nothing new, and AstroTurf has worked well for Republicans in the past. The most notable example was the “spontaneous” riot back in 2000 — actually orchestrated by G.O.P. strategists — that shut down the presidential vote recount in Florida’s Miami-Dade County.

So what’s the implication of the fact that Republicans are refusing to grow up, the fact that they are still behaving the same way they did when history seemed to be on their side? I’d say that it’s good for Democrats, at least in the short run — but it’s bad for the country.

For now, the Obama administration gains a substantial advantage from the fact that it has no credible opposition, especially on economic policy, where the Republicans seem particularly clueless.

But as I said, the G.O.P. remains one of America’s great parties, and events could still put that party back in power. We can only hope that Republicans have moved on by the time that happens.
 
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Yeah, FoxNews highjacked the movement. Truth is: We all need to be out there protesting, regardless of party affiliation. I've heard some things being talked about that are ridiculous.
 
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source: New York Times

Tea Parties Forever

This is a column about Republicans — and I’m not sure I should even be writing it.

Today’s G.O.P. is, after all, very much a minority party. It retains some limited ability to obstruct the Democrats, but has no ability to make or even significantly shape policy.

Beyond that, Republicans have become embarrassing to watch. And it doesn’t feel right to make fun of crazy people. Better, perhaps, to focus on the real policy debates, which are all among Democrats.

<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">But here’s the thing: the G.O.P. looked as crazy 10 or 15 years ago as it does now. That didn’t stop Republicans from taking control of both Congress and the White House. And they could return to power if the Democrats stumble. So it behooves us to look closely at the state of what is, after all, one of our nation’s two great political parties.</SPAN>

One way to get a good sense of the current state of the G.O.P., and also to see how little has really changed, is to look at the “tea parties” that have been held in a number of places already, and will be held across the country on Wednesday. These parties — antitaxation demonstrations that are supposed to evoke the memory of the Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution — have been the subject of considerable mockery, and rightly so.

But everything that critics mock about these parties has long been standard practice within the Republican Party.

Thus, President Obama is being called a “socialist” who seeks to destroy capitalism. Why? Because he wants to raise the tax rate on the highest-income Americans back to, um, about 10 percentage points less than it was for most of the Reagan administration. Bizarre.

But the charge of socialism is being thrown around only because “liberal” doesn’t seem to carry the punch it used to. And if you go back just a few years, you find top Republican figures making equally bizarre claims about what liberals were up to. Remember when Karl Rove declared that liberals wanted to offer “therapy and understanding” to the 9/11 terrorists?

Then there are the claims made at some recent tea-party events that Mr. Obama wasn’t born in America, which follow on earlier claims that he is a secret Muslim. Crazy stuff — but nowhere near as crazy as the claims, during the last Democratic administration, that the Clintons were murderers, claims that were supported by a campaign of innuendo on the part of big-league conservative media outlets and figures, especially Rush Limbaugh.

Speaking of Mr. Limbaugh: the most impressive thing about his role right now is the fealty he is able to demand from the rest of the right. The abject apologies he has extracted from Republican politicians who briefly dared to criticize him have been right out of Stalinist show trials. But while it’s new to have a talk-radio host in that role, ferocious party discipline has been the norm since the 1990s, when Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, became known as “The Hammer” in part because of the way he took political retribution on opponents.

Going back to those tea parties, Mr. DeLay, a fierce opponent of the theory of evolution — he famously suggested that the teaching of evolution led to the Columbine school massacre — also foreshadowed the denunciations of evolution that have emerged at some of the parties.

Last but not least: it turns out that the tea parties don’t represent a spontaneous outpouring of public sentiment. They’re AstroTurf (fake grass roots) events, manufactured by the usual suspects. In particular, a key role is being played by FreedomWorks, an organization run by Richard Armey, the former House majority leader, and supported by the usual group of right-wing billionaires. And the parties are, of course, being promoted heavily by Fox News.

But that’s nothing new, and AstroTurf has worked well for Republicans in the past. The most notable example was the “spontaneous” riot back in 2000 — actually orchestrated by G.O.P. strategists — that shut down the presidential vote recount in Florida’s Miami-Dade County.

So what’s the implication of the fact that Republicans are refusing to grow up, the fact that they are still behaving the same way they did when history seemed to be on their side? I’d say that it’s good for Democrats, at least in the short run — but it’s bad for the country.

For now, the Obama administration gains a substantial advantage from the fact that it has no credible opposition, especially on economic policy, where the Republicans seem particularly clueless.

But as I said, the G.O.P. remains one of America’s great parties, and events could still put that party back in power. We can only hope that Republicans have moved on by the time that happens.

I always said this. If they could come back from Watergate, they could come back from this.

Yeah, FoxNews highjacked the movement. Truth is: We all need to be out there protesting, regardless of pparty affiliation. I've heard some things being talked about that are ridiculous.

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Yeah, FoxNews highjacked the movement. Truth is: We all need to be out there protesting, regardless of pparty affiliation. I've heard some things being talked about that are ridiculous.

I have a challenge for you Lamar. Let's show up at these rallies with "down with corporatist domination", "down with NAFTA", "pull out of the WTO", "end the attack on the unions", "tax the wealthy", “take back our country from the international financiers” posters. What do you think?
 
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I have a challenge for you Lamar. Let's show up at these rallies with "down with corporatist domination", "down with NAFTA", "pull out of the WTO", "end the attack on the unions", "tax the wealthy", “take back our country from the international financiers” posters. What do you think?

I'm down with that, it's more issues that bring people together than separate us. I think we can all unite around the banking fiasco! I'm down to get out and exercise my 1st Amendment but when Fox gets involved, it just turns into a glorified GOP rally to try to trash Mr. Obama, and I aint wit that. I don't like some of his policies but I'm not gonna act like all this crap started Jan 21, 2009.
 
I'm down with that, it's more issues that bring people together than separate us. I think we can all unite around the banking fiasco! I'm down to get out and exercise my 1st Amendment but when Fox gets involved, it just turns into a glorified GOP rally to try to trash Mr. Obama, and I aint wit that. I don't like some of his policies but I'm not gonna act like all this crap started Jan 21, 2009.

What about the others? The banking mess is just a part of the others. What about the others?
 
What about the others? The banking mess is just a part of the others. What about the others?

Opposition to NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO: Yes, people can unite. IMO, those trade agreements/organizations are not working out in the best interest of the people. But it shouldn't stop there, Some muh-fuckaz need to go to jail. This whole debacle is about fraud and the FBI should be working overtime.

Now, I don't agree with taxing the wealthy because thats what this whole protest is all about. peace
 
I'm down with that, it's more issues that bring people together than separate us. I think we can all unite around the banking fiasco! I'm down to get out and exercise my 1st Amendment but when Fox gets involved, it just turns into a glorified GOP rally to try to trash Mr. Obama, and I aint wit that. I don't like some of his policies but I'm not gonna act like all this crap started Jan 21, 2009.

Again the banking mess is just a symptom of the overall economic failures. Government was not at the root of the problem, it was the corporatists paying off government offices so they could shift the economy to boom and bust paper wealth and a lack of oversight on capitalism. So we can count you as a supporter of stopping the Wal-Mart’s and taking away rights of working people, right?
 
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So we can count you as a supporter of stopping the Wal-Mart’s and taking away rights of working people, right?

ya damn skippy! trust me, I see whats happening

Again the banking mess is just a symptom of the overall economic failures. Government was not at the root of the problem, it was the corporatists paying off government offices so they could shift the economy to boom and bust paper wealth and a lack of oversight on capitalism.

I'd go a step further in identifying the real culprits. It was the Federal Reserve, under the leadership of Greenspan & Bernanke, who kept interest rates too low for too long, which allowed excessive money and credit to be created. That, along with the repeal of Glass/Stegall, lead to banks morphing to "superbanks". Also, Walmart, GE, and others capitalized by using this cheap money/credit to expand, all in the name of "Globalization".

So, if you want to regulate anything, it must start with the Federal Reserve!
 
I'm going to try to make it to the Dallas one. If I can make it, I'll take some picks of the turn out...

BTW, am I considered a "right wing extremist" now? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Damn, I wish some people in GOVERNMENT was this adamant about our REAL ENEMIES instead of their political rivals....
 
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