The Obama Deception - Google Video

I like when KRS stated in reference to the Burger King issue.
What did he say? What point is it in the video, I'll listen too. But, what did he say, and how does it show that Mr. Obama has been deceptive ???


Panameno said:
Que Ex do really believe Obama is running the USA?
Yes I do; to the same extent as any other president has ran it and with the same limitations upon his powers as provided by the laws and Constitution.

Now YOU demonstrate HOW THAT IS NOT SO. I'm waiting.


Panameno said:
There was no way Obama was going to win the election before the Banker engineered Wall St. collasped happened. Obama was chosen by the Bilderberg Group in June 2008 to be the next President of the USA.
Sir, please post facts to back that up. Facts. Not your underinformed opinion. Facts, Please.


Panameno said:
Obama is nothing but a puppet front man for the new world order and they just needed a new face to carry their agenda at the end of the the day it is the same mask but different face.
If Mr. Obama being a puppet is as obvious as you seem to make it, why is that you have yet to make that case with "Facts" that demonstrate it ???

Do you know what facts are ???

QueEx
 
The deception QueEx is what he said he wouldn't do, he's been doing since he got elected lol.
What did he say he would not do; and are you saying he has done, that is contrary to what he said he wouldn't do ???

And, can you please be specific ???

QueEx
 
What did he say he would not do; and are you saying he has done, that is contrary to what he said he wouldn't do ???

And, can you please be specific ???

QueEx

"When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as the president, you the public will have five days to look online and find out what's in it before I sign it," he said.
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On 2/17 Obama signed the $787 billion stimulus, one business day after it passed through Congress

FACT: Violation of US Criminal Code 1001.
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any
matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or
judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly
and willfully -
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or
device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the
same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
statement or entry;

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5
years, or both.

Obama is a criminal. Check and mate.

more here: Lobbyists, etc.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=91286
Renegotiating NAFTA "put on hold"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/19/MNN516157K.DTL&type=politics
 
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"When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as the president, you the public will have five days to look online and find out what's in it before I sign it," he said.
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On 2/17 Obama signed the $787 billion stimulus, one business day after it passed through Congress

FACT: Violation of US Criminal Code 1001.
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any
matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or
judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly
and willfully -
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or
device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the
same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
statement or entry;

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5
years, or both.

Obama is a criminal. Check and mate.

more here: Lobbyists, etc.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=91286
Renegotiating NAFTA "put on hold"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/19/MNN516157K.DTL&type=politics
 
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What is:


Panameno718 said:
within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or
judicial branch of the Government of the United States

? ? ?

QueEx
 
I listened and I watched, for five full minutes and not one single "fact" to support
the deception conclusion contained in the title to this thread. I did come to one
conclusion, that some people are apparently just predisposed to believing that
there is always, always, some dark, secret, unknown, untouchable and conspiratorial
force that is running shit. .........
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He listens for "five full minutes" and then says all that bullshit. LoL How you listen to an hour and a half long documentary for "five full minutes" and try to draw conclusions about anything???? Make it through to the end and then holla.

:smh::smh::smh::smh:

QueEx = Manchurian Candidate
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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He listens for "five full minutes" and then says all that bullshit. LoL How you listen to an hour and a half long documentary for "five full minutes" and try to draw conclusions about anything???? Make it through to the end and then holla.

:smh::smh::smh::smh:

QueEx still aint told me what he disagrees with ;)
 
He listens for "five full minutes" and then says all that bullshit. LoL How you listen to an hour and a half long documentary for "five full minutes" and try to draw conclusions about anything???? Make it through to the end and then holla.

:smh::smh::smh::smh:

QueEx = Manchurian Candidate
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

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You been standing in the wings; getting your nerves up; waiting to say something to me ???

Listen up; when you jump; you should be packing (knowledge or wisdom).

ALSO, when you quote someone, don't just restate the part you like or the part that you thinks is in your favor -- restate the whole damn thing or at least, that which also goes against you. This time, I'll do it for you:

I listened and I watched, for five full minutes and not one single "fact" to support
the deception conclusion contained in the title to this thread . . .


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P.S.

The video is now at the 37 minute mark and it STILL is an absolute waste.
AND, whoever says its not just junk, PLEASE take the time to set out a series
of faccts from the article and state the conclusion they support.

Thanking you in advance.

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Now YOU respond to the challenge: "whoever says its not just junk, PLEASE take the time to set out a series of facts from the article and state the conclusion they support."

I waiting . . .


QueEx
 
Que Ex I am not going to go back and forth with you on Obama I and some other posters have put the info on here about Obama but you are not trying to see it or hear it like the majority of Obama supporters. I am NOT a Republican or Democrat I am a "Political Atheist" as Geral Celente would say, left or right means nothing to me its the best interest of the people of this country that I and others try to get them out of the Matrix way of thinking and I will continue to do that ;).
What did he say? What point is it in the video, I'll listen too. But, what did he say, and how does it show that Mr. Obama has been deceptive ???



Yes I do; to the same extent as any other president has ran it and with the same limitations upon his powers as provided by the laws and Constitution.

Now YOU demonstrate HOW THAT IS NOT SO. I'm waiting.



Sir, please post facts to back that up. Facts. Not your underinformed opinion. Facts, Please.



If Mr. Obama being a puppet is as obvious as you seem to make it, why is that you have yet to make that case with "Facts" that demonstrate it ???

Do you know what facts are ???

QueEx
 
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Que Ex I am not going to go back and forth with you on Obama I and some other posters have put the info on here about Obama but you are not trying to see it or hear it like the majority of Obama supporters. I am NOT a Republican or Democrat I am a "Political Atheist" as Geral Celente would say, left or right means nothing to me its the best interest of the people of this country that I and others try to get them out of the Matrix way of thinking and I will continue to do that ;).



I've often wondered if Que-Ex is mod of this board to be an agent of frustration. I'm still undecided... but he sure fits the bill.
 
Well Que, I don't have time to rehash the quality arguments tht other posters have already presented to you, which you are unwilling to consider, but that film - from my viewing of it - did not over state or exaggerate its information. It also cited a lot of specific news articles which are available for all to view.

The poster who spoke above about being a Political Athiest appears to have found the best perspective from which to view the political goings on of the day in the world. Props to that cat.

And Que, you still a Manchurian Candidate Matrix Minded maufucka in my humble but loudly spoken opinion. LoL :D
 
I've often wondered if Que-Ex is mod of this board to be an agent of frustration. I'm still undecided... but he sure fits the bill.

You're definitely showing signs of "Trollage" and possibly "Prior Ownership."

Now, if you have something to say to me or about something I've said, don't stand behind someone else or comment through someone else playboy, put it on the table.

QueEx
 
After his speech regarding the auto industry, it should be obvious! He is an Agent of Wall Street. How is it that Banks get bailouts within hours with no scrutiny but Automakers have to jump through hoops to get a fraction of what these banks request. To top it off, the banks do not produce anything.

While I personally don't agree with bailouts, I will support the American worker every time! He or his advisors fail to understand the key to economic growth is Production.

He is an Agent of Wall Street, just as the film suggests
 
Damn, Barack catching it from both sides, let the brother at least complete 2 years of his term before all the speculation starts that he is the anti-christ.

He got in office Jan. 20th, this is the end of March.

:smh:
 
Damn, Barack catching it from both sides, let the brother at least complete 2 years of his term before all the speculation starts that he is the anti-christ.

He got in office Jan. 20th, this is the end of March.

:smh:

f*ck dat, can't you see the war is expanding, banks are coming up with more instruments to screw the people (without scrutiny), while our industrial base get no support from Washington in regards to CAFE standards imposed on the auto industry.

While "W" had destructive policies, this guy is leading us to the 3rd world. Nobody said he was the anti-christ, I still don't understand what that means. F*ck how good his speeches sound, ya'll need to understand the implications of his actions.
He is an Agent for Wall Street!
 
You're definitely showing signs of "Trollage" and possibly "Prior Ownership."

Now, if you have something to say to me or about something I've said, don't stand behind someone else or comment through someone else playboy, put it on the table.

QueEx



:cool:

Hmmm. How can one be a troll in their own thread? Forgot about that didn't ya boss?

As far ownage is concerned, you know, and I know that: I get under your skin. :yes:

That's why you're huffing and puffing now. I stopped riding the merry-go-round with you long ago. I leave that to the other champs that frequent this domain now... and they do a fine job.

That's why I never bothered to respond to the lunacy of your first post in this thread.

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=362998

As at least one other poster noticed, you couldn't even get through six minutes of the movie before coming in to give your critique.

But what that poster doesn't know, is why you were so anxious to debunk it. In addition to your disagreeing with it's concept, could it also be because I posted it?

But you wanna talk about ownage...:rolleyes:

I'm done... carry on.



:lol:
 
You know what Obama and his elite banker handlers are doing to the gentleman in the car industries? They're not here to help them. Why should they? The car industry was the last remnant of what used to be the true American work force. It's a battle of bankers who produce nothing vs. people who actually produce something. Unfortunately the car people have no chance in this fight. Obama would prefer that all those people in that industry worked some government issued job.......or they can join the Civilian National Security Force
 
Lamarr,

I'm not going to waste a lot of time and get sucked into this debate. I don't have the patience for videos ironically. I would much rather read. So I'll probably never watch the video in question.

However, what do you mean 'produce nothing"? Do you think that "knowledge workers" don't produce 'anything".? Some of the posts people make are so naive that's it's embarrassing to read sometimes. You could pick up a good book by Peter Drucker. Do you think that the physical manufacturing of a hard good is the only capacity by which something is 'produced'? Please tell me your definition of 'production' is not that myopic?
 
I tell people George W.Bush put America on the edge of a cliff well Obama took over the driver seat and he is going to drive America off the cliff :smh:.
While "W" had destructive policies, this guy is leading us to the 3rd world. Nobody said he was the anti-christ, I still don't understand what that means. F*ck how good his speeches sound, ya'll need to understand the implications of his actions.
He is an Agent for Wall Street!

If this does not say he is an Agent for Wall St. than I do not know what else you can show people he is not for Main St.!!!!
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?p=5944803#post5944803
 
Lamarr,

However, what do you mean 'produce nothing"? Do you think that "knowledge workers" don't produce 'anything".? Some of the posts people make are so naive that's it's embarrassing to read sometimes. You could pick up a good book by Peter Drucker. Do you think that the physical manufacturing of a hard good is the only capacity by which something is 'produced'? Please tell me your definition of 'production' is not that myopic?

"If you don't make anything, you can't buy anything" - Ross Perot (1993 NAFTA Debate against Al Gore)

Produce nothing? Its just a swipe at the Banks, IMO, they only produce debt. :yes:

Yeah, I read about Drucker in my college days, I don't quite understand what you're getting at though. I won't say the physical manufacturing of a hard good is the only way something is 'produced', but I will say the method has been proven to create economic growth, it's necessary to the equation.
 
"If you don't make anything, you can't buy anything" - Ross Perot (1993 NAFTA Debate against Al Gore)

Produce nothing? Its just a swipe at the Banks, IMO, they only produce debt. :yes:

Yeah, I read about Drucker in my college days, I don't quite understand what you're getting at though. I won't say the physical manufacturing of a hard good is the only way something is 'produced', but I will say the method has been proven to create economic growth, it's necessary to the equation.

When I said "knowledge workers", I was not ONLY referring to the banking sector. I was referring to anyone who is a field that is in the management of knowledge.

So are you of the persuasion that anyone who doesn't produce a hard good is not a "producer"?

I will expound by what I meant by referring to Peter Drucker. Your idea of production is limited and dated. I'm not referring to the idea of consuming without consequence. Your Perot quote was ill-placed and a better one anyone is Buffet's article about squanderville vs thriftsville.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1053684/posts

My point is that your idea of what production is is wrong in the first place. The output in a factory is no more of a product than the "output" of a scientist...which is often the precursor to anything that is produced in the factory in the first place.

The product of a knowledge work that doesnt produce a tangible good (database production), is not less a product than a car rolling out of a factory.

The banking sector doesn't ONLY produce debt. Much of what you are using right now to even write this post was because of the direct investment of a Venture Capitalist into some type of enterprise.

Read any of these books http://home.att.net/~nickols/chronicle.htm
 
bruh eewwll - man I dont even bother anymore. Lamarr is not a bad dude but he aint the one to discuss or even entertain real economics with.
He thinks stimulus plans are tantamount to the fed flooding the economy with cash.
 
^^^

I just casually read posts most of the time. I try to stay out of the debates for the most part.
 
eewwll, I just got online, I really want to read the freerepublic article before I respond. I gotta run.

Makk, glad you think I'm not a bad guy :) you're right, I'm not that smart in regards to the 'real' economy but I listen to people who have been right all along. Instead of listening to Timmy G, Summers, Paulson, Bernanke & Co, I listen to people who understand the flaws in their arguments.

In regards to stimulus packages, I fail to understand how repeating the same actions of the past 2-3 yrs is gonna generate a different outcome. Maybe its me, but there is a word to describe someone that keeps doing the same thing expecting a different result.
 
eewwll, I just got online, I really want to read the freerepublic article before I respond. I gotta run.

Makk, glad you think I'm not a bad guy :) you're right, I'm not that smart in regards to the 'real' economy but I listen to people who have been right all along. Instead of listening to Timmy G, Summers, Paulson, Bernanke & Co, I listen to people who understand the flaws in their arguments.

In regards to stimulus packages, I fail to understand how repeating the same actions of the past 2-3 yrs is gonna generate a different outcome. Maybe its me, but there is a word to describe someone that keeps doing the same thing expecting a different result.
bruh listen to whoever you like but you are refusing to view economic principles and activity accurately. Im no economist or anything close to it but you have limited views of what certain things mean. Its kinda like youre talking about rats as if they are the entire group of mammals when it comes to production.

No one is perfect and our economic situation, history and current state is full of flaws. Its just hard to have an honest good conversation when we can't agree on what basic terms mean.
 
^^^

I just casually read posts most of the time. I try to stay out of the debates for the most part.
Is it the time thing? I see you going in every once and a while- if done regularly it can be a time burner.
 
Is it the time thing? I see you going in every once and a while- if done regularly it can be a time burner.

Everyone once in a while I go in. I try to avoid it because it's really pointless with some people. I like debating things back and forth but sometimes you can get pulled into a "debate" with someone who isn't really offering anything and it becomes a time-warp where you don't even learn anything new..

You know on bgol you can be debating Geithner's plan, who is the greatest athlete, black relationship dynamics, etc all at the same time and before you know it you just lost 3-4 hours :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I already spend too much time on here :lol:
 
eewwll, great article & I give you props because you know your stuff, your posts provoke thought and you provide sources to back up what you're saying!

You and others say my thinking in regards to manufacturing is old and outdated, I just disagree fundamentally with those who are trying to re-invent the wheel. Production and savings are the life-blood of economic growth, So yes, we must make things. It may be old but its an approach that has been tried and proven. I'm not against 'knowledge workers', it just seems like we have too many of them (maybe thats why we're in the situation we're in currently). We must get back to work.

I simply can't argue with Buffett's record but I would disagree with his solution on the premise that it would invite massive govt intervention. I think you already know my views on that. I'm a solutions-based type of guy, that's why the article is so informative, but I'd simply put my trust in the people to make decisions as opposed to the govt.
 
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