Can't argue with this comment here.
Have Black men lost the art of seduction?
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Can't argue with this comment here.
I think females put seduction too high on the list. You want a man who worships you. If you fall for men who are great seducers you will be falling for men who are great seducers (if you know what I mean). If he is great at the art of seduction, chances are it wasn't honed on you; chances are you wont be the last. I am not saying that you wont be the one to tame the great seducer but you have to make sure that after you he has other reasons to seduce others. ie he seduces for money (a great salesman is usually a good seducer)
Seduction can be learned and taught. Seduction is subjective also.
After the kids come I find that a lot of women kill all the attempts of their partner trying to seduce them and eventually the men stop. If husbands thought their seduction was going to get them ass from their wife they would keep trying to seduce her.
At the end of the day I learn that it's not how good a man is at seduction that makes the relationship works it how well people accept each other.
Being grateful, appreciative and understanding is most important.
for the record: wine and dine is only a small part of seduction. It's not even necessary. Long before people were doing wine and dine women were being seduced. Like the OP stated she used: Look, touch, poses, tones. Male show off muscles or stamina, talks of sexual prowess, dressing, etc. Those that lack those try using money which seem to work best. The whole thing about bling bling is nothing but seduction. They are seduced by the fancy car, the job title or the pay check, his statute. Seduction is alive and well. If she is one that seeks the thrill of seduction then a guy knows that he can always be out seduced. It's what ever turns her on at that moment in time.
Seduction can be learned and taught. Seduction is subjective also.
After the kids come I find that a lot of women kill all the attempts of their partner trying to seduce them and eventually the men stop. If husbands thought their seduction was going to get them ass from their wife they would keep trying to seduce her.
At the end of the day I learn that it's not how good a man is at seduction that makes the relationship works it how well people accept each other.
Being grateful, appreciative and understanding is most important.
for the record: wine and dine is only a small part of seduction. It's not even necessary. Long before people were doing wine and dine women were being seduced. Like the OP stated she used: Look, touch, poses, tones. Male show off muscles or stamina, talks of sexual prowess, dressing, etc. Those that lack those try using money which seem to work best. The whole thing about bling bling is nothing but seduction. They are seduced by the fancy car, the job title or the pay check, his statute. Seduction is alive and well. If she is one that seeks the thrill of seduction then a guy knows that he can always be out seduced. It's what ever turns her on at that moment in time.
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Here is video footage of Ju trying to get on my level...
...As you all can see she FAILED!!!
A lot of US have dropped the damn ball. I'm a relationship we started off as childhood friends. I do the little things flowers just because, vacations just US, running her bath water after a long day. I told her from the jump I'm here good, bad it doesn't matter. I want to see her happy and a better woman. We do the same for each other. Its' not always peaches and cream. She supports and loves me. I do the same for her. I want to see her happy and a better woman.
Like anything it takes time, effort and commitment. I'm not knocking any guy's hustle. I'm saying what I do. Seduction I make it happen. I take my time and enjoy it.
I know the time doesn't always calls for the slow building up like a tea pot. We are busy so I adjust as needed.
Like anything it takes time, effort and commitment. I'm not knocking any guy's hustle. I'm saying what I do. Seduction I make it happen. I take my time and enjoy it.
I know the time doesn't always calls for the slow building up like a tea pot. We are busy so I adjust as needed.
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you are so wrong because this is exactly what most men nowadays do and it is not seduction just a big turnoff only hoes are seduced by that crap
You know what ...
... nvm.
You and me! I want to lay it straight so bad, but she did say ladies.
speak your piece
Are you Bi Girl? This is her thread.
Tell us what you want, demand it, express yourselves, and don't settle for less. It may take you longer to find what you're looking for, but isn't quality better than quantity? We do it. This is why we only put rings on certain womens fingers.
We do what we can get away with, where women are concerned. If the dude is right, you'll get respect if you demand it.
It's really not that hard, be patient, don't settle.
We do what we can get away with, where women are concerned. If the dude is right, you'll get respect if you demand it.
It's really not that hard, be patient, don't settle.
This.
What about women who men romance, pursue, and drop change on......only to find out she isnt what she is, and she's been giving the azz up to the thug on the side?
Women cry about wanting a good man.....thats not what you want, you want a challenge, aka a man you cant control or belongs to someone else.
If thats the case, you'd be at church knee deep in good christian men, but you arent.
Women cry about wanting a good man.....thats not what you want, you want a challenge, aka a man you cant control or belongs to someone else.
If thats the case, you'd be at church knee deep in good christian men, but you arent.
and? what she gonna do delete your post? it aint that serious. there are other male posters in here, so speak ur piece, hopefully it will be valuable.
but since you need bigirl's personal invitation then hold ya breath and wait
lick a razor blade
you are so wrong because this is exactly what most men nowadays do and it is not seduction just a big turnoff only hoes are seduced by that crap
I am not calling anyone a hoe because she goes out with someone she thinks will make her happy. The material things to her may symbolize that the guy is successful or has things together while the lack symbolize dead weight. Even the ones who would react the way you just did are impressed by the guy who she used to go to school with who is now driving a Mercedes and lives in a nice house. She will tell her friends how he is doing well and will be all excited about it and then feel let down by the fellow she is with who may be going through a rough patch. So right there she is seduced by his success and if she gets to be around his friends or his circle she may even be more seduced by that circle. She starts picturing herself in that circle and so when she is approached by someone in that circle she is already seduced.
You are thinking about the material things as a dirty drug dealer type thing and that is not what I am thinking of it as. To folks who work hard for it, it represents just that; hard work and success and I am not mad at anyone who are seduced by it. I am not going to call a female a hoe because she wants to marry a man who is successful. I already believe most people can be bought. It's a matter of finding the right price or bargaining chip. I have lost faith in the virtuous woman notion. My know my grandmother was one. I know they are out there but ... that's another topic.
All I am saying is seduction is subjective and you can justify why your falling for one type of seduction or the same type is better and more virtuous than the next. Lots of women who like to say they are independent, say they want a guy who makes just as much money as them or more, and having the status symbols of success is just the first part of the seduction.
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This! With the exception that if she's a lady to begin with then standards will never have to be lowered, a true lady would never stoop to such bs
again....
Lioness bout to get that revenge kill.
I am sorry you have encountered such materialistic hoes
I have my own stuff and don't want any from anyone else be they one with a title or one with "weight"
I need a genuine bond and connection
Luckily I found one 
my man does not have more than me materialistically(actually a lot less) and it doesn't matter because we overstand each other really well and have a great time and a lot of trust and that is what is important to me and he
I am sorry you have encountered such materialistic hoes
I have my own stuff and don't want any from anyone else be they one with a title or one with "weight"
I need a genuine bond and connection
my man does not have more than me materialistically(actually a lot less) and it doesn't matter because we overstand each other really well and have a great time and a lot of trust and that is what is important to me and he
Is Bigirl in love?!?
I am sorry you have encountered such materialistic hoes
I have my own stuff and don't want any from anyone else be they one with a title or one with "weight"
I need a genuine bond and connection
my man does not have more than me materialistically(actually a lot less) and it doesn't matter because we overstand each other really well and have a great time and a lot of trust and that is what is important to me and he
I still resent you calling the other women of BGOL hoes because they have different selection criteria than yours. I got a more righteous than others ton in your response. I am rather happy that you have found someone that you have bonded with on a more than materialistic level and bring happiness to each other. I can understand when a single mother fell in love like you have and have a kid with someone who is not as focused on making big bread as she desires and after that relationship has failed chose to select someone from a higher income scale (someone who is doing well for them self). If you are going to paint with the broad brush that all the women I talked about are hoes then you are included. Since you seem to be taking the righteous tip, I would like to point out that most of the men the Bible tells stories about and that had virtuous women were men with money and stature. Virgin Mary to Joseph man of Stature in the community. Guess that made Mary a hoe. I guess when parents put their kids in certain environment so that they will end up marrying in that social class and the kids only talk to others in that class that makes them hoes.
Why shouldn't the girl have the life she dreams of? and if a guy can seduce her with that dream then why not? Why does she have to be a hoe? Isn't seduction about someone fulfilling some fantasy? It's easier when you already have a fantasy that someone can fill otherwise the person has to great one and draw you in it.
Oh yeah. I'd just like to point out that my girl friends, the few I've had had only 1 partner before me and 1, I was the first. And while I am not certain; I don't think you picked up some duty bwoy off the street to be your love which would prove that there was something materialistic subconsciously in the selection
OK fine. Sometimes I think you all are materialistic hoes. There you've beaten me into admitting I think negatively of women at times. Yes Yes Yes. They all aren't hoes. Oh well since I can't tell how they'll turn out then ... Just to be sure I wasn't unfair to the non hoe I will treat all females like ladies. Yes, even the hoes.
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I didn't and this thread has nothing to do with kids and I am not in love and I am not having a kid and women who look a man for money are HOES
I'd fuck? 
Yes. HPLC grade.
I perfer MEK.
What the hell has this thread turned into?
What did it start out as?
Men don't seduce.
Men romance.
Men don't seduce.
Men romance.
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