IT'S ALMOST OFFICIAL: Floyd "Money" Mayweather Plans to return to fight Pacquiao !!!!

[Spectrum]

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FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR: NOT THINKING PACQUIAO DREAM MATCH, BOXING
By G. Leon

Sources close to former undefeated pound for pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr have informed Boxingtalk.com that despite Manny Pacquiao's sensational stoppage victory over Oscar De La Hoya, the pound for pound Picasso has zero interest in returning to the ring to face the current pound for pound king. "Floyd's not even thinking boxing right now," said our source. It should be interesting to see if the public's interest in the bout and the pocketbooks of powers that be can entice Mayweather to make this dream match a reality.

Same shit was said before the DLH fight... I think the money is gonna be too big for him to pass up..

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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So as of right now, no fight. We'll see. He was "retired" before the Hatton fight too. Maybe if Manny beats Hatton (and it does good ppv numbers) that will be the thing.

 

[merce77]

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I do too.
He didn't pick Zab Judah, Zab was the champion of his division (at the time of signing). He fought Baldomir for the same reason. If Baldomir hadn't beaten Judah and Gatti on HBO, he would have never been given a fight with Mayweather.

I agree that Hatton wasn't going to win but every White person I talked to seem to think Hatton could do it and that means money in this country. And Hatton was/is a good fighter. Protected? A little, but still good and good enough to challenge for Floyd's title.

Good? Against who has he proven that he's good. The only guy he looked good against was recently against Malignaggi, and Paulie sucks, he wrestles more than Hatton. Hatton is a UFC fighter with boxing gloves on. He wrestled himself to a win against an old Tzsyu, got a gift decision against Collazo who as I said before almost KO'ed him. He was/is a great white hype, very little skill there.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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Come on, now. Now Hatton's not even good? He wasn't given the junior welterweight title. He took it from long time champ Kostya Tszyu. He's 43-1, with 31 ko's. MM's still the only guy to beat him (Collazo got jobbed but officially, Hatton won)

 

[NorthsideOKC]

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I do too.
He didn't pick Zab Judah, Zab was the champion of his division (at the time of signing). He fought Baldomir for the same reason. If Baldomir hadn't beaten Judah and Gatti on HBO, he would have never been given a fight with Mayweather.

I agree that Hatton wasn't going to win but every White person I talked to seem to think Hatton could do it and that means money in this country. And Hatton was/is a good fighter. Protected? A little, but still good and good enough to challenge for Floyd's title.

He fought Zab because a Floyd Mayweather-Zab Judah fight had a lot of appeal when you put those names together. PBF considered himself a PPV fighter. Zab was the only name out there. Zab lost to Baldomir. They went ahead w/ the fight anyway. He was no longer the man at welter anymore. He went into that fight w/ the IBF title, because Baldomir didn't pay sanctioning fees. It was a joke that it was a title fight.

You can't really fault him for the Baldomir fight, because he was the champ. I just hated it because I knew it was some bullshit.

Then we can agree he fought Hatton for the money right? You knew he had no chance of winning right? How is that not cherrypicking? I know boxing is not fought on paper, but when you pretty much know the outcome before it happens, it is what it is. I think Hatton is a solid fighter, but his struggle against a mediocre Collazo showed he had no business at welterweight

 

[J_Octane151]

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[merce77]

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Come on, now. Now Hatton's not even good? He wasn't given the junior welterweight title. He took it from long time champ Kostya Tszyu. He's 43-1, with 31 ko's. MM's still the only guy to beat him (Collazo got jobbed but officially, Hatton won)

He doesn't jab, he has next to zero defense, he wrestles more than he punches, his foot movement is suspect, his chin is VERY suspect, he has good power and alot of heart. He's entertaining is what you mean. Kostya was old as hell, and Hatton did very little fighting that night, being in England he was able to clinch and wrestle the hell out of the old man all night until Tzsyu was exhausted and had to quit, something the ref prevented him from doing against MAywather and u saw the outcome. Collazo got jobbed and Castillo threw his fight being horribly in debt, due to his weight problems and all the fines he'd incurred it was later discovered that he was deeply in debt. I mean Jose took all the shots Corrales had to offer, and he goes down from one shot from a smaller lighter hitting HAtton and then gets up calmly at the count of ten and walks to his corner? No one gets up from a paralyzing body shot at the count of ten, (I mean even Oscar had the sense to at least make it look like he was in horrible pain from the shot Hopkins gave him) and had Hatton lost that fight as he would of with an on point Castillo, there would have been no May fight and the check writers weren't having that. I actually like Ricky and think he's also good as a drawing card but he is not that good a fighter, not even close to Pac's or Floyd's realm.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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He fought Zab because a Floyd Mayweather-Zab Judah fight had a lot of appeal when you put those names together. PBF considered himself a PPV fighter. Zab was the only name out there. Zab lost to Baldomir. They went ahead w/ the fight anyway. He was no longer the man at welter anymore. He went into that fight w/ the IBF title, because Baldomir didn't pay sanctioning fees. It was a joke that it was a title fight.

You can't really fault him for the Baldomir fight, because he was the champ. I just hated it because I knew it was some bullshit.

Then we can agree he fought Hatton for the money right? You knew he had no chance of winning right? How is that not cherrypicking?[/QUOTE]

Hatton was the hottest guy below 160 and the junior welterweight champion and was HBO's "it" guy. How does he not fight him especially since Hatton called him out after every win. And I don't see a problem with fighting someone for the money, as I'm sure you don't either. That's what fights are about and it is called "prizefighting".

 

[merce77]

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He fought Zab because a Floyd Mayweather-Zab Judah fight had a lot of appeal when you put those names together. PBF considered himself a PPV fighter. Zab was the only name out there. Zab lost to Baldomir. They went ahead w/ the fight anyway. He was no longer the man at welter anymore. He went into that fight w/ the IBF title, because Baldomir didn't pay sanctioning fees. It was a joke that it was a title fight.

You can't really fault him for the Baldomir fight, because he was the champ. I just hated it because I knew it was some bullshit.

Then we can agree he fought Hatton for the money right? You knew he had no chance of winning right? How is that not cherrypicking?[/QUOTE]

Hatton was the hottest guy below 160 and the junior welterweight champion and was HBO's "it" guy. How does he not fight him especially since Hatton called him out after every win. And I don't see a problem with fighting someone for the money, as I'm sure you don't either. That's what fights are about and it is called "prizefighting".

Now THIS comment I agree with 100%. Hatton called HIM out and he was HBO's "it" guy, and all these white folks wanted to see Mayweather and his big cocky mouth get beaten.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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He doesn't jab, he has next to zero defense, he wrestles more than he punches, his foot movement is suspect, his chin is VERY suspect, he has good power and alot of heart. He's entertaining is what you mean. Kostya was old as hell, and Hatton did very little fighting that night, being in England he was able to clinch and wrestle the hell out of the old man all night until Tzsyu was exhausted and had to quit, something the ref prevented him from doing against MAywather and u saw the outcome. Collazo got jobbed and Castillo threw his fight being horribly in debt, due to his weight problems and all the fines he'd incurred it was later discovered that he was deeply in debt. I mean Jose took all the shots Corrales had to offer, and e goes down from one shot from a smaller lighter hitting HAtton and then gets up calmly at the count of ten and walks to his corner, no one gets up from a paralyzing body shot at the count of ten, and had Hatton lost that figt as he would of wih an on point Castillo, thre would have beenno May fight and the check writers weren't having that. I actually like Ricky and think he's also good as a drawing card but he is not that good a fighter, not even close to Pac's or Floyd's realm.

Very few fighters are.

Jose's debt was very public knowledge. He lost because he was shot. If he still had it, where is he? Not being able to beat the count but not being crippled doesn't mean he threw the fight. Wouldn't a win mean more money? It would definitely mean more fights. You just throwing dudes under the bus right and left. Gotdamn, you're ruthless.

 

[merce77]

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Still, that's two down (Hatton, PAvlik), one (Calzaghe) to go. Hopefully Joe will get in the ring with a YOUNG dangerous fighter this time like Chad Dawson. I'm tired of them trying to elevate these white boys like their te greatest fighters in the world. Calzaghe as number two pound for pound and Hopkins NOT on the list is a joke.

 

[NorthsideOKC]

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Hatton was the hottest guy below 160 and the junior welterweight champion and was HBO's "it" guy. How does he not fight him especially since Hatton called him out after every win. And I don't see a problem with fighting someone for the money, as I'm sure you don't either. That's what fights are about and it is called "prizefighting".

The reason the fight was criticized because people wanted to see PBF in there w/ a big, strong, legit welterweight who was in their prime.

Hatton is none of those things. Hatton brought the most money w/ the least amount of risk. I just don't see how you don't think he was cherrypicking. Yeah Hatton called him out, but so did a million other fighters. Again, from a business perspective, its a great move. From a fan perspective, it's garbage.

 

[slick]

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the fighter called her and disclosed his plans to return and and hook back up with his father, Floyd Sr.

LET'S GO FLOYD!!!

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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I gotta go. The Wife is bitching about me being on the computer "all night" (she just got off the phone her damn self).

It was a pleasure and always fun talking boxing with people who know what they're talking about. You wouldn't believe the morons who want to talk boxing with me but have no context or knowledge of history, even recent history.

 

[merce77]

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Very few fighters are.

Jose's debt was very public knowledge. He lost because he was shot. If he still had it, where is he? Not being able to beat the count but not being crippled doesn't mean he threw the fight. Wouldn't a win mean more money? It would definitely mean more fights. You just throwing dudes under the bus right and left. Gotdamn, you're ruthless.

Actually it was a bit of inside knowledge. Jose would have lost a decision to Ricky, I agree he was shot, but no one had ever even hurt Castillo, shot usually means you lose your legs first, he didn't lose his abilty to take a punch. And who was Castillo going to fight? Casamayor, fought him, Corrales, dead, Acelino Freitas? Shot. There were no fights for him and moving up was ot of the question, he couldn't fight at a higher weight and be competitive, which means no money. Besides, how many pesos do you think a British pound converts to? I don't now either but I'm sure it's ALOT.

 

[FJP]

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He turned down 8 mil to fight Margarito and fought for LESS money.

WHY WHY WHY is this lie always stated. The first time Margarito's people came with the 8 mill he fought Baldomir for 8 million which was the same money. The 2nd time he turned down the 8 to fight Oscar and made 25 so what are you talking about?

 

[FJP]

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mayweather might lose - and i'm a mayweather fan.

the biggest secret killer of great boxers is ring rust. these niggas get on top and simply stop fighting - they think they're great but they never get tested so skills and heart erode. mayweather has official ring rust.

this shit about mayweather being bigger - wasn't pacman @ 149 fight night? mayweather is not bigger than pacman - and at this point - if them niggas had to fight today? pac has quicker hands and better stamina. speed kills and pbf used to always been the fastest nigga. he's not anymore.

i also have a personal test about boxers to tell when they're over. once they start doing the "delay" talk - they've been hit in the head too many times and their reaction time is shot. it's that thing that boxers get at a certain point in their careers when they look at you and you can tell that they not 100% focused on you - they eyes look spacey and they stutter - and/or they take a long time to choose their words when they speak.

jermain taylor was doing it before pavlik clubbed him. de la hoya does it. that delay in reaction time - that split of a second is the difference between catching 200 jabs to the mouth vs bobbing that head and countering.

look at any recent pdf video on youtube - like that one video with him and Philly Freck where he got the bag of money in the studio. peep how the nigga talking - pbf is shot my nigga.

Ring Rust...yes... Conditioning? hell nah. The dude still runs and trains like he's about to fight. Thats alll he knows. You dont believe me ask someone in Vegas if you dont believe. He's only been "retired" a year. He hasnt gone anywhere. Not like Tyson with the prison stint. I mean seriously most fighters fight once a year, he's just a little off that pace.

LOL@ your personal test. Dude go back and watch Mayweather/DelaHoya/Hatton 24/7. He talks the same way in those..stuttering and shit as he does in the Freck video. Seriously man your test makes no sense.

 

[FJP]

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32 is not young my G, at least not for boxing. Especially when your coming out of an inactive retirement after being a gym rat all your life, but I agree that they will be much closer in freshness than Oscar/Pac. Niccas can get old overnight, how many of ya'll remember Sugar Ray coming out of retirement to fight a smaller, faster Hector Camacho and being the favorite, it's sad that I will always remember Suagr Ray getting his ass whupped for like 9 rounds, when no one dreamed that would ever happen. I would like to root for Floyd but Manny is better for boxing than Floyd. He never passes up a challenge and always fights the best fighters and gives the fans something they won't forget. Mayweather never went to war like that and always took easy money fights. I was a May fan but after the Corrales fight he seemed to just do enuff to win and then him not being able to admit that he lost to Castillo, he lost me as a fan.

I see the fight this way, if Pac gave Marquez(who is probably one of the best if not THE best pure boxers in the sport, remember he doesn't have May's natural speed and he still makes niccas look foolish, that's pure skill) a really hard time, even tho I thought Marquez beat him twice, May has got his work cut out for him. And Manny has been working on his boxing skills, if Floyd is just diminished enuff, it should make for a great action fight.

See but thats the thing, you keep saying a he stopped going to the gym, thats not true. Just cause dude still talks about the shape he's in. He's just not fighting. He's only been gone one year. You talk about 32 isnt young, but he is a "Young" 32. Floyd hasnt been in wars, he hasnt taken near the punishment most have. He's probably a younger 31 than Pac is at 29. Pacs body has been through alot. And that first Castillo fight was questionable, but dont act like he didnt have a convincing 2nd bout.

 

[4ce of n8ur]

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See but thats the thing, you keep saying a he stopped going to the gym, thats not true. Just cause dude still talks about the shape he's in. He's just not fighting. He's only been gone one year. You talk about 32 isnt young, but he is a "Young" 32. Floyd hasnt been in wars, he hasnt taken near the punishment most have. He's probably a younger 31 than Pac is at 29. Pacs body has been through alot. And that first Castillo fight was questionable, but dont act like he didnt have a convincing 2nd bout.

a "young" 32 - with brittle hands? lol. and my "test" makes no sense? lol

 

[4ce of n8ur]

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Ring Rust...yes... Conditioning? hell nah. The dude still runs and trains like he's about to fight. Thats alll he knows. You dont believe me ask someone in Vegas if you dont believe. He's only been "retired" a year. He hasnt gone anywhere. Not like Tyson with the prison stint. I mean seriously most fighters fight once a year, he's just a little off that pace.

LOL@ your personal test. Dude go back and watch Mayweather/DelaHoya/Hatton 24/7. He talks the same way in those..stuttering and shit as he does in the Freck video. Seriously man your test makes no sense.

it makes way more sense than you think. i'll tell you. the first sign of parkinson's is impaired speech and inability to articulate. parkinson's is degenerative and almost all career boxers develop some manner of it to some degree. best case scenario is that he's always been like that - and i'm not talking last year or two years ago. i'm talking five years ago - ten. that's best case that he's always been like this and that's the only way your argument iseven worthwhile. but he hasn't - which means aworsening of symptoms. the next symptom of parkinsons is marked slowing of reflexes.

lol.

 

[Moore]

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I still can't believe you said that shit.
You know there was this guy named Pernell once...........

HBO punch stat tracks these stuff and they already listed him as the most accurate puncher.....now add that to the fact that he is a defensive genius its not even close.

Yes the Mayweather combo of accuracy and defense is fucking unmatched in the sport.

 

[FJP]

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Brittle hands? You act like punishment had anything to do with his hands. When a boxer is talking about damage they talk about the legs, and body and reflexes, not his hands. Your test makes no sense because you said look at his focus and how he talks...well he's been talking like that for atleast 3 years so was he shot then too?.... For the record since he isnt a young 32 to you, exactly who has beaten him, no I dont mean winning the fight I mean in what bout has he taken punishment?...

 

[Spectrum]

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i best case scenario is that he's always been like that - and i'm not talking last year or two years ago. i'm talking five years ago - ten. that's best case that he's always been like this and that's the only way your argument iseven worthwhile. .

dawg... PBF has always been a mush-mouth... half of Flint is mush-mouthed..

 

[FJP]

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it makes way more sense than you think. i'll tell you. the first sign of parkinson's is impaired speech and inability to articulate. parkinson's is degenerative and almost all career boxers develop some manner of it to some degree. best case scenario is that he's always been like that - and i'm not talking last year or two years ago. i'm talking five years ago - ten. that's best case that he's always been like this and that's the only way your argument iseven worthwhile. but he hasn't - which means aworsening of symptoms. the next symptom of parkinsons is marked slowing of reflexes.

lol.

I agree with your Parkinsons analogy but what Im saying is you are basing him being shot on how he talked in a damn interview when he's been talking the same way for like the past 3 years. Please watch 24/7 then show me a difference. Im not doubting a cat will develop Parkinsons cause Im not a doctor but in what you based it on I dont see a difference.

 

[4ce of n8ur]

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dawg... PBF has always been a mush-mouth... half of Flint is mush-mouthed..

i cant even argue that. duly noted.

 

[thellc]

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No he became a safety first fighter after he got with Roger and his hands started getting brittle. When he was with Floyd Sr. he was a high action fighter, after Castillo put it on him from rounds 9-12(which had nothing to do with a hand injury). The real issue in that fight was the ref stopping May from using his forearm to push Castillo back by shoving his forearm and elbow in his throat, pushing his head up and back and then punching which is purely illegal, I've watched that fight over ten times and once the ref took away that weapon from him, it all went downhill, he had no way to defend himself from Castillo's relentlessness. And if you watch alot of Floyd Sr.'s fighters they use the forearm illegally as well. Watch the fight again and see for yourself, how the fight changes once Drakulich stopped May from using that shit. If Manny fights Pac and Freddie gets in the refs ear about May's illegal use of the forearms you will see a different fight.

You niggas is killing me with this Castillo shit. PBF beat him in the rematch remember, which he beat Castillo ass the rematch so kill that. PBF most likely is somewhere sitll training. He took this break so his hand can fully heal. Niggas said Gatti was gonna beat him and what happend, they said Correllas was gonna beat him and what happend. Same with Judah, De la hoya, and Hatton. Pacman maybe younger but he has taken a lot more punishment than PBF. PBF would whoop his ass.

 

[P03t]

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classic Boxer Vs Brawler....

I got Floyd...by UD...

fight for the official P4P title...

can't wait....