BGOL SARTORIALISTS: A thread

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Shoes. Few pairs from my favorite little known company. You don;t need a ton of shoes. A few quality pairs of well taken care of shoes will easily last several years.

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Do you buy this from England or is there a local store that sells them?
 
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August 23, 2007
A Return to That Drop-Dead Year 1960

By RUTH LA FERLA
“I’M from Bay Ridge. We have manners,” Peggy, the pony-tailed secretary, scolds the colleague who has just propositioned her in “Mad Men,” the new drama on the cable channel AMC. Do Peggy’s colleagues at Sterling Cooper, the turbo-powered advertising agency where she works, fall a little short in that department?

No matter. They have style.


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The “girls” in the steno pool, the nakedly striving junior executives, the smooth-talking bosses and their stay-at-home wives have done their best to acquire the veneer of graceful gestures that stand in for real courtesy. Their mannerisms, and their sleek appurtenances, come with the turf: the steel-and-glass landscape of Madison Avenue in 1960, where burled wood and frosted-glass-panel interiors form a sumptuous backdrop against which the players stride about in sheaths and glen plaid suits.
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Taking it all in, viewers may find themselves hooked, not just on the show’s artfully shaded characterizations and plot twists, but on its insistent attention to detail. To a style aficionado, “Mad Men” is that rare TV show in which an ashtray, a lipstick or an aerosol tin gets star treatment, and is a protagonist in its own right.

Why not? “The story is told in the details, and those details have their own life,” said Matthew Weiner, who conceived and wrote the series. Spiffed up by amber lighting, the camera lingering almost lewdly on a whiskey tumbler, a gilded compact or the polished surface of a conference table, those details reflect the growing materialism of the Eisenhower years.
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Jaeger-LeCoultre watches, Delman pumps and Buick sedans are as essential to the action as a glistening smile or arched brow — projections of the characters’ idealized selves. His hair slicked with Brylcreem and flashing cuff links, Don Draper, Sterling Cooper’s brooding creative director, can imagine himself an impenetrably suave Lothario. In her scarlet-lined kimono, Midge, his mistress, can convince herself that she is a faintly louche, spirited adventuress. Floating into a party, Betty, his wife, can play the suburban princess in crinolines and pearls.

That fixation on objects, surfaces and status signifiers also holds up a mirror to the fetishistic obsessions of the present day. It would hardly seem alien to an aspiring red-carpet queen swinging an outsize Balenciaga tote, or to an ambitious young Manhattan trader girded for battle in a Hugo Boss suit.
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Or, for that matter, to a fashion addict, who would surely note that the show’s aura of pulled-together formality is in step with the look of the runways, which returned this fall to mannerly 1950s-inflected tailoring.

From a modern vantage, it is easy to forget that 1960 was a watershed. An election loomed, the Pill became widely available, and there dawned a conviction, one later promoted by Andy Warhol and his ilk, that image trumps content, that style and substance may in fact be all but interchangeable.

The seeds of that notion were planted during the newly prosperous postwar years. Happiness then was not some hard-won spiritual attainment. In Don’s glib assessment, it was rather “the smell of a new car ... freedom from fear. It’s a billboard on the side of the road that screams: ‘Whatever you’re doing, is O.K. You are O.K.’ ”

In such a climate, a presidential candidate could turn unembarrassed to an agency like Sterling Cooper to rev up his image. Who knew better than Madison Avenue’s tastemakers that putting him across was largely a matter of packaging? As Don is told by Roger, his mentor: “Consider the product: He’s young, handsome, a Navy hero.
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“Honestly, it shouldn’t be too difficult to convince America that Nixon is a winner.”

Like Nixon’s infamous five o’clock shadow, a dusting of grit mars the otherwise sleek surfaces of “Mad Men.” That is by design, said Mr. Weiner, a former writer and producer of “The Sopranos.” Not a single prop is an afterthought, he said. “The metal fixture that clasps like a clothespin onto the guest towel — my grandmother had it, my mother had it,” Mr. Weiner said. “It’s actually written into the script.”

Roughly $2.5 million went into the filming of each episode. “All of that money has been funneled onto the screen,” he added, down to the conference tables coated in cigarette ash, and the homely touches bestowed on the characters — wrinkled shirts, sweat stains, ill-applied makeup — that lend the show an air of authenticity.

“The period is usually very glamorized,” Mr. Weiner said. Production teams, he pointed out, generally look to films like “The Best of Everything,” or Vogue or Architectural Digest, to ferret out examples of the crystal tumblers, towering beehives and pristine swing coats thought to typify the period.

“I told them that’s not the way it works,” Mr. Weiner said. “We are not doing a show from the perspective of the movies. We are doing a show about the people who watch those movies. Often they are imitating what they see.”

Imperfect creatures, they mix and match at home, placing a streamlined silver-tone coffee brewer in front of rustically patterned cafe curtains. Their drawers are full. So are their garbage pails.
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Even their hair and accessories are not always tidy or up to date. “We looked at Vogue, but we also looked at the Sears catalog,” Mr. Weiner said. In the idealized world of a ’50s movie, Don might drive a Cadillac. In “Mad Men,” he drives a Buick LeSabre. In “The Best of Everything,” Hope Lange is coiffed to perfection, not a hair out of place. On “Mad Men,” chignons tumble, pageboys wilt.

“The secretary has to have a hairstyle that will basically degrade over five days of the week,” Mr. Weiner explained. “And each character has a closet — she will wear the same six dresses during a single season.”

At times throwaway gestures betray an infatuation with Hollywood and distinguish the characters from their modern counterparts. Women deftly roll down their stockings and shut their compacts with a definitive click; men flick at their lighters and habitually tug at their ties. As Mr. Weiner pointed out, they loosen the knots in private, but snap them back into place the moment a female enters the room.

An uptight move, it did not betoken good manners exactly. But it was good style.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/23/fashion/23MAD.html
 
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Slim ties are only cool for skinny guys. If you have broad shoulders and an athletic frame like I do it looks a bit ridiculous.
 
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Great thread.

I've been buying more suits lately and need to pick up some new styles.

I can never seem to find the right shoes anymore though.
 
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Do you buy this from England or is there a local store that sells them?

I've ordered through plal.com and they hooked up a nice lil discount after going back and forth via email about one model. That's one of the few reliable retailers that I know of that ships them to the states. There's also a store called Ben Silver in SC that carries c&J but at higher prices.
 
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#1 rule the tailor is your best friend..make aure your neck/waist/inseam are properly measured so you know exactly what size shirt/coat/sport jacket/pants are right for you...and you should always have your sport jacket/suit tailored i perfer taken in on the sides and a 1/4 in of cuff showing...i feel like a million bucks wearing it
 
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that matrix reloaded knot i have to try it out. :lol: looks different but im def gonna wear it this week
 
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i've been ditching the belt lately. i need some suspenders/braces.

recommend where i can get some or should i purhcase these locally?
i might as well get new slacks without belt loops too
 
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for you english cats is this store considered expensive out there?

http://www.tmlewin.co.uk/ProductList.aspx/MenShirtsWindsorSemiFitted

No its not top notch and i hate their shirts...Most black brothers (Esp them Nigerians) love TM LEWIN shirts...I hate their fabrics...yes they might look good on picture but I really dont feel their cotton

But if you are on budget then its cool to buy some....
If I'm on budget then this is always my rescue:

http://www.hawesandcurtis.com/choose.asp?typeid=allmens


Otherwise MARK MARENGO is the way to go even though they've become slightly expensive last couple of months
 
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No its not top notch and i hate their shirts...Most black brothers (Esp them Nigerians) love TM LEWIN shirts...I hate their fabrics...yes they might look good on picture but I really dont feel their cotton

But if you are on budget then its cool to buy some....
If I'm on budget then this is always my rescue:

http://www.hawesandcurtis.com/choose.asp?typeid=allmens


Otherwise MARK MARENGO is the way to go even though they've become slightly expensive last couple of months
Excellent suggestion playa!:yes::yes::yes:​
 
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No its not top notch and i hate their shirts...Most black brothers (Esp them Nigerians) love TM LEWIN shirts...I hate their fabrics...yes they might look good on picture but I really dont feel their cotton

But if you are on budget then its cool to buy some....
If I'm on budget then this is always my rescue:

http://www.hawesandcurtis.com/choose.asp?typeid=allmens


Otherwise MARK MARENGO is the way to go even though they've become slightly expensive last couple of months


i dont know anything about them. someone passed me a link and since they dont have stores here i figure i ask cats from out there. i hate buying clothes from online retailers because i can never touch and see fabric up close and personal. so i was like :hmm: but they look good on paper though


cool ill check out the links
 
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im soo glad i will neva hav ta wear a suit(worn one once) cuz dem shitz is fuckin hot,ugly,and str8 up white societies way of control dem fuckin ties feel like a damn noose

its clothes u can wear to an interview w/o havin 2b a suit
 
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im soo glad i will neva hav ta wear a suit(worn one once) cuz dem shitz is fuckin hot,ugly,and str8 up white societies way of control dem fuckin ties feel like a damn noose

its clothes u can wear to an interview w/o havin 2b a suit

Gotta disagree with you here man, a good suit can make you feel bullet proof.. it's about how you react to it, and I like making an effort and looking good..
 
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im soo glad i will neva hav ta wear a suit(worn one once) cuz dem shitz is fuckin hot,ugly,and str8 up white societies way of control dem fuckin ties feel like a damn noose

its clothes u can wear to an interview w/o havin 2b a suit

depends on your industry. guess what lawyers have to wear in court? i dont know...take a guess....

at the same time, if you're going for a labor job who the hell wears a suit.
you must be one of them hardcore black nationalists. both malcolm x and martin luther king wore suits :lol: add elijah muhammed and farrakhan to the list. so i dont see what the fuck you talking about holmes.

with that mentality you'll always be bottom of the barrel. read some books.
 
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depends on your industry. guess what lawyers have to wear in court? i dont know...take a guess....

at the same time, if you're going for a labor job who the hell wears a suit.
you must be one of them hardcore black nationalists. both malcolm x and martin luther king wore suits :lol: add elijah muhammed and farrakhan to the list. so i dont see what the fuck you talking about holmes.

with that mentality you'll always be bottom of the barrel. read some books.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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im soo glad i will neva hav ta wear a suit(worn one once) cuz dem shitz is fuckin hot,ugly,and str8 up white societies way of control dem fuckin ties feel like a damn noose

its clothes u can wear to an interview w/o havin 2b a suit

It has nothing to do with having white society control you. In my case, I've always been a James Bond fan and I've always wanted to dress like him, so I did and continue to; I like making great lasting impressions. A good suit makes me feel like I can take on the world, and I know I look great doing it.

If you know your fabrics, you can find a breathable linen suit/shirt that won't be hot during the summer months and a warm wool suit that will keep you warm during those cold days.

As to your ugly comment.......beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think you'll be outnumbered on that point. A bespoke ensemble will get you further than a blue jumper, or timbs, sagging jeans, and a too large t-shirt + hoodie every time.

depends on your industry. guess what lawyers have to wear in court? i dont know...take a guess....

at the same time, if you're going for a labor job who the hell wears a suit.
you must be one of them hardcore black nationalists. both malcolm x and martin luther king wore suits :lol: add elijah muhammed and farrakhan to the list. so i dont see what the fuck you talking about holmes.

with that mentality you'll always be bottom of the barrel. read some books.

:lol::lol::lol: Harsh but true.
 
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#1 rule the tailor is your best friend..make aure your neck/waist/inseam are properly measured so you know exactly what size shirt/coat/sport jacket/pants are right for you...and you should always have your sport jacket/suit tailored i perfer taken in on the sides and a 1/4 in of cuff showing...i feel like a million bucks wearing it

yeah im bout to start doin this so i could start rockin' some cufflinks when i wear my suits
 
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a nice pair of cap toe brown shoes with leather sole are always smooth...match the belt make sure they are shined and youre good to go
 
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