Skillz is going in on Diddy, Jay-Z(TRUTH OR BULLSHIT?)
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ok after watching this....what the fuck is his point?
would the puff of today sign the biggie of 91?
would the me of today drive the same car i drove in 91?
fuck outta here man....
"check this out playboy...you gonna wear them shiney suits"
Clearly Biggie would have been better than 100% of the rappers today. Had biggie been alive Jayz would not have been ceo of def scam nor be in the position he is in today.
Yeah I forgot Peedi...to answer Rawness question he did not blackball these artists like he did Cam...but they were "forced" (look I used quotes) to live in his shadow...to me this was just another way of "shelving" artists which is not new at all to the industry where a label signs someone and does NOTHING with their careers just to prevent rival labels from signing them...seems like that's what Jay did just to hype up the Rocafella name in between his album releases...sort of like what 50 did when he signed all them artists and ain't do shit with a few of them...I told y'all years ago you won't gone hear an M.O.P. or a Mase album...
there was alot of truth in video
just not that bullshit about biggie and pple back then and today yada yada...
he did have some valid points with the stuff about pple seeing ness walking for cheesecake,and the respect he will never get and about mike not being able to take of his shirt while the rest of the group can
Nigga you talking about fukkin now I am talking about when their careers were relevant and Jay had an influence on it...with the exception of Kiss cause his signing with the Roc is recent...
i agree,if big never dies jayz would have never came up
cause all he did was take bigs flow an run with it
from versace to iceberg... and you know bk reps hard!
but ask yourself this
would that same biggie cd today be as rellivant as it was them
(and im not talkin about to you,im talking about to the 15-21 age demographic where cds ar targeted)
no..im talkin about back then also
rell? wack then and now
bleek? wack then and now
kiss would have fit into no gotmdan roc a fella back then,not does he fit in now
beans...
i mean c`mon look at the numbers(cause that is what really matters at the end of the day).
cam`ron biggest seller barely broke a million,if it even did...
beans?
bleek?
c`mon dude nobody is going to keep dumpling money into shit thats not bring back residules...
Some of the comments being made are proving the exact point skillz is making and shining light on the bigger issue that blacks dont work togather. Puffy is a mogul and yes he worked very hard to get there and the next nigga might have to climb a mountain twice as big to get there but when he get there what will happen? skillz said it correct when puff humanizes his artist with these reality shows people dont believe im them. Niggas not doin whats best for the next nigga they just doin whats best for them. I understand you got to look out for ya self and make that cheese but for niggas like jay, puff, these niggas aint gon fall off wit money they set so why not just help niggas? whats wrong wit doin a free verse for a nigga you believe can make it? or puttin more money behind molding a nigga to be a superstar? When is enough enough? Niggas want to get all the money for what? what cant they do now that they gon be able to do wit more money? but this is not just a hip hop issue its a black issue ask yourself what have I done to help the next nigga?
$$$ was hardly dumped into them in the first place and now you are on that shit equating record sales to talent...
...to answer Rawness question he did not blackball these artists like he did Cam...but they were "forced" (look I used quotes) to live in his shadow...to me this was just another way of "shelving" artists which is not new at all to the industry where a label signs someone and does NOTHING with their careers just to prevent rival labels from signing them...seems like that's what Jay did just to hype up the Rocafella name in between his album releases...sort of like what 50 did when he signed all them artists and ain't do shit with a few of them...I told y'all years ago you won't gone hear an M.O.P. or a Mase album...
Yea of course they were in the shadow of Jay, but that's neither an excuse nor Jay's fault. Jay did all that could be expected from him for those artists (except Cam, who he just didn't like), at some point they have to stand on their own. Kanye stayed on his grind AND had a product the public was feeling, he's doing just fine after coming up from the shadow of Jay-z.
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exactly....cause them cats is GARBAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE with exception of seigel(beforekanye and cam was on the roc)
who else was nice?
No its your slut mom you stupid west coast gang member fuck stop bieng a fake militant and get shit yourself
Cute but not accurate. I'm sure you've not heard enough of PC to make a legitimate point. I can let you know where to find some though. My son is talented.
I ma curious did he go plat while biggie was alive if you answer yes witch is the truth the go suck your mothers dick .Hate is a sickness !!!!!!!
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You crazy. It woulda been great!
jay z went platinum when biggie was alive?
da fuck outta here u exceptional stan ass muhfucka
You crazy. It woulda been great!
Diddy wouldn't have done shit name somebody that help that nobody else could have.
What are you talking about Peter????
cuz, they are roasting you something ugly in that time for another episode thread
Not sure I understand your question, jumbo. Was it a question?
Don't hate cause ya can't dance you fat muthafukkin nigga...
You talkin about that cuepac shit??
that as well as the basketball head, the poolball head, ect.
Thanx 4 the heads up but LB assumed it was me because of the similarity in names but it ain't. Fuck Peter btw
HOOOLD UP HOLD UP...Since When Did a CAMEO appereance make a DOPE ALBUM, MANY of these southern discount artists are one hit wonders who BABBLE on the MIC anyway! NOT MC...of course they do MAD features because it takes 5 or ten of them subpar mofos just to make a decent track.
The EAST is asking WHERE are the NEW QUALITY MCs like LUDA, LUPE, and ANDRE 3000 at from UP TOP (They Do Exist)and when will they get a FAIR CHANCE to SHINE? It is not fair to dismiss the control that CERTAIN MOGULS have on the Industry and just discredit those who are grinding in the TOUGHEST CITY ON THE PLANET to come up in.
WE ALL KNOW THAT SOULJAH BOY COULDN'T MAKE THAT KIDDY SHIT UP HERE AND BE CONSIDERED AN MC! He would be rated just like that kiddy as dude from up top who made Aunt Jackie...FLASH-IN-THE-PAN!
So kats are in there having a field day on an innocent vic that's not even a member of this board. 
niggaz actin like the man before them passed any baton. them niggaz would fall off. back in the day niggaz would EARN their spot. the game today is TOO built on buisness. Joel Ortiz couldnt get a shot cause Jimmy didnt like him. fuck all the artist that Dre have made. JIMMY said HE didnt like ortiz. which is Dre's boss. fuck dre gonna do or say to that?. people think this is a fuckin track meet and a baton has to be passed. jay left the game for 3 YEARS!. fuck the features, he didnt release an album for 3 YEARS!. who took that chance to take over the game? who?. what rapper just took over and said i aint givin this back?
when big died, jay kinda fumbled wit the 1st album. but he aint budge since Vol2. and dont tell me jay aint put niggaz on or give niggaz a shot. dont say he didnt give out verses to help other niggaz out. you cant say he didnt do that. who is there to pass the baton to?. who is it? rappers went from basketball players to football players. the life span is gettin smaller. it went from being good for atleast an album. to being good for atleast a song. the new buisness doenst favor what hip hop was built on.
you have to kinda look at jay different. he wasnt handed his position. niggaz didnt want to sign him. NO LABEL did. so excuse him for wanting to see an artist work for something that he is not owed. he loved beans because just like him, beans didnt really want this shit. beans didnt have a demo, song, called in radio stations. NOTHING. but to say jay didnt put anybody on, or try to let new niggaz take over just isnt a smart thing to say.
when big died, jay kinda fumbled wit the 1st album. but he aint budge since Vol2. and dont tell me jay aint put niggaz on or give niggaz a shot. dont say he didnt give out verses to help other niggaz out. you cant say he didnt do that. who is there to pass the baton to?. who is it? rappers went from basketball players to football players. the life span is gettin smaller. it went from being good for atleast an album. to being good for atleast a song. the new buisness doenst favor what hip hop was built on.
you have to kinda look at jay different. he wasnt handed his position. niggaz didnt want to sign him. NO LABEL did. so excuse him for wanting to see an artist work for something that he is not owed. he loved beans because just like him, beans didnt really want this shit. beans didnt have a demo, song, called in radio stations. NOTHING. but to say jay didnt put anybody on, or try to let new niggaz take over just isnt a smart thing to say.
This is true shit!! here but it goes deeper! Diddy Jay for example wear alot of hats now u have the unsigned with their foot in the industry doing the same so cats cant come up ... let me use my people for example me and my brother we do filming for a major dvd mag my cousin owns 50% of the mag but its known for one dude name so my brother is shooting movies currently and his boys wont fuck with him because my brother wants to wear all the dam hats so if he blow he can take all the credit and the success and i tell him u cant be director writer sound man stylist and movie star all in one that is why ur not gonna get support niggas dont wanna be like the band getting cheese cake or getting on treadmills like mike its room for everyone to shine
jay z went platinum when biggie was alive?
da fuck outta here u exceptional stan ass muhfucka
See this is what happens when family's allow incest fucks the appear here on the board like this muthafucka right here check the sound scan asshole all his albums went plat wow . The first album was rereleased and it went plat
Before you post next time take your fathers dick out of your mouth and sstop fucking your mom in her ass .
Oh my bad you like lil wayne or some west coast fuck like to short .
Like i said before just stay playing with your mother pusssy and shut up when men talking .
1996 Reasonable Doubt
Released: June 25, 1996
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Priority
23 3 - RIAA Certification: Platinum
U.S. sales: 1.4 million
1997 In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
Released: November 4, 1997
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
3 2 - RIAA Certification: Platinum
U.S. sales: 1.2 million
1998 Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life
Released: September 29, 1998
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
1 1 13 RIAA Certification: 5x Platinum
U.S. sales: 5 million
1999 Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter
Released: December 28, 1999
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
1 1 8 RIAA Certification: 3x Platinum
U.S. sales: 3 million
2000 The Dynasty: Roc La Familia
Released: October 25, 2000
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
1 1 5 RIAA Certification: 2x Platinum
U.S. sales: 2.3 million
2001 The Blueprint
Released: September 11, 2001
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
1 1 3 RIAA certification: 2x Platinum
U.S. sales: 2 million
2002 The Blueprint²: The Gift & the Curse
Released: November 12, 2002
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
1 1 8 RIAA Certification: 2x Platinum
U.S. sales: 2 million
2003 The Black Album
Released: November 14, 2003
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
1 1 — RIAA certification: 4x Platinum
U.S. sales: 4 million
2006 Kingdom Come
Released: November 21, 2006
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
1 1 — RIAA Certification: 2x Platinum
U.S. sales: 2.5 million
2007 American Gangster
Released: November 6, 2007
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
1 1 — RIAA certification: Platinum
U.S. sales: 1 million
TBA The Blueprint 3[4]
Released: TBA
Label: Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
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I did this reaserch because i like talking to assholes thats why i respond to you and your mom.
To the rest of the board abortion or you risk giving birth to a ass like this fuck
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