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[Black Broadway Legend]

Thursday, July 3, 2008

"Here Comes The Bride"

Okay:

And so the ladies ask, What exactly is 'Wifey Material'?

You hear rappers talking about it all the time. "I might wife her" etc. Not that we should be listening to rappers for relationship advice. Present company excluded, of course.

Well, ladies, I am here to tell you what that's all about. We men, believe it or not, are indoctrinated with just as much bullshit as you all are about what we should be looking for in a spouse.

Women are taught to be far less discriminating, however. Your goal is to get married. Who exactly you are going to marry is a very flexible concept. The When and the How are far more important.

But for us it's all about the Who.

For women, you're basically looking for a handsome, kind, financially stable man who's willing to commit. That's about it. Just four simple requisites. And most of you would settle for three out of four.

The Jesus Freaks are gonna want a man who's into The Lord and all. That will trump the other four.

If she's just a plain old Freak, she's gonna want a man who can satisfy her in bed. And that may trump the other four.

Barring those two exceptions, that's it in a nutshell. And I think you'd be hard pressed to find a woman who would disagree.

As far as men go, it's a whole 'nother story. See, the misconception is that men don't want to commit, don't want to get married. Not it at all actually. We're just a lot pickier than you all are.

You say your man is dragging his feet. You've been together for years and he hasn't proposed? Newsflash! He's not afraid of getting married, per se. He just doesn't want to marry you.

So how do we decide who is 'Wifey Material'? Those of you ladies with kind, loving and involved fathers know exactly what it is. He's been molding you from the day you were born. He may not have said the words, "If you do that, no one's going to want to marry you." But, trust me, it was the motivation behind almost everything he ever said and did for you.

Even us progressive fathers who teach our daughters that marriage is not a life goal but something that some people are blessed to experience, also do not want our daughters to become the kind of women who are unmarriable.

So here it is, in list format, in order of importance, for easy reference:

1. Sexual History: I know. I know. Hypocritical. Silly. Whatever. We don't necessarily want to discover your vagina, we just don't want to feel like we're signing in at Ellis Island.

2. Beauty: Sure it's relative, but only to a certain extent. Only those creeps from Divorce Court marry ugly women.

3. Projected Weight Gain: Nothing wrong with a heavy woman. I like something to grab. The question is, how much heavier is she going to get? It's important to know. A married couple should have a well-balanced weight ratio.

4. Temperament: Is she going to cut your dick off while you're sleeping or suggest counseling?

5. Personality: Most men find a reserved shyness a good indicator. I know I do. We can't have two hams in the house.

6. Domesticality: If that's a word. But you get my meaning. She doesn't have to do everything, but she should be able to. Nothing worse than a woman who couldn't cook you a meal even if she wanted to. Except, perhaps, a woman with a dirty bathroom. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

7. Intelligence: Most men, I would say, would prefer a woman who is slightly less intelligent than they are. That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught.

8. Sexuality: And, yes, this is always last on the list. Only a truly silly man would make it of primary concern.

And here is the logic.

If one of the main reasons you marry a woman is she satisfies you sexually, you are in for a big surprise. The woman who is fucking your brains out nightly and giving you unsolicited blowjobs in movie theaters is going to cut the water supply off just as soon as you say "I do". Now that's a fact and I don't care what anyone has to say about that.

You, my friend, are a victim of the oldest known form of manipulation: The Old Bait and Switch.

An experienced, mature man knows that it's better to settle down with a woman who isn't trying to pretend like your dick is the cosmic center of the galaxy.

Slow and steady wins the race.


And that's it basically. As you can see, we have twice as many criteria. And, men, despite what you may think, are far more thoughtful and complicated than most of you give us credit for.

Conduct yourselves accordingly.



Thanks for reading.


Download the new single "In The Kitchen" and the new Freestyle of the Week FOR FREE.


GOBAMA!


Postscript: And, oh yeah. A lot of women, of course, would settle for good old financial stability and/or wealth. And who could blame them with the price of gas these days?


*taken from http://coolceebrown.blogspot.com*

 

[Robeson]

Thursday, July 3, 2008


1. Sexual History: I know. I know. Hypocritical. Silly. Whatever. We don't necessarily want to discover your vagina, we just don't want to feel like we're signing in at Ellis Island.

2. Beauty: Sure it's relative, but only to a certain extent. Only those creeps from Divorce Court marry ugly women.

3. Projected Weight Gain: Nothing wrong with a heavy woman. I like something to grab. The question is, how much heavier is she going to get? It's important to know. A married couple should have a well-balanced weight ratio.

4. Temperament: Is she going to cut your dick off while you're sleeping or suggest counseling?

5. Personality: Most men find a reserved shyness a good indicator. I know I do. We can't have two hams in the house.

6. Domesticality: If that's a word. But you get my meaning. She doesn't have to do everything, but she should be able to. Nothing worse than a woman who couldn't cook you a meal even if she wanted to. Except, perhaps, a woman with a dirty bathroom. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

7. Intelligence: Most men, I would say, would prefer a woman who is slightly less intelligent than they are. That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught.

8. Sexuality: And, yes, this is always last on the list. Only a truly silly man would make it of primary concern.

And here is the logic.

If one of the main reasons you marry a woman is she satisfies you sexually, you are in for a big surprise. The woman who is fucking your brains out nightly and giving you unsolicited blowjobs in movie theaters is going to cut the water supply off just as soon as you say "I do". Now that's a fact and I don't care what anyone has to say about that.

You, my friend, are a victim of the oldest known form of manipulation: The Old Bait and Switch.

An experienced, mature man knows that it's better to settle down with a woman who isn't trying to pretend like your dick is the cosmic center of the galaxy.

Slow and steady wins the race.


And that's it basically. As you can see, we have twice as many criteria. And, men, despite what you may think, are far more thoughtful and complicated than most of you give us credit for.

Conduct yourselves accordingly.

Ya know, I really kind of agree with this...

 

[PrincessC]

7. Intelligence: Most men, I would say, would prefer a woman who is slightly less intelligent than they are. That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught.

Is this a joke? WTF.

 

[Robeson]

Is this a joke? WTF.

Maybe it is, but it's a pretty accurate take on many of the cats I know when it comes to actually picking a wife. Didn't you know? I mean, the contradiction is glaring, but what guys actually want ideally is a virgin when they think marriage. Now, that makes no sense I know, but that's the target.

 

[PrincessC]

Maybe it is, but it's a pretty accurate take on many of the cats I know when it comes to actually picking a wife. Didn't you know? I mean, the contradiction is glaring, but what guys actually want ideally is a virgin when they think marriage. Now, that makes no sense I know, but that's the target.

I understand that. The hypocrisy and double standards that many men have in regards to sexuality is mind boggling and IMO, stupid.

I was specifically talking about number 7. Why would anyone want to be with someone who is not as smart as them. "That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught." How can that really be taken seriously?

 

[bigirl]

I was specifically talking about number 7. Why would anyone want to be with someone who is not as smart as them. "That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught." How can that really be taken seriously?

Sis thats the fucking truth for real. I had actually made a thread on here about that some time ago about how men don't like smart women.

 

[owl]

I understand that. The hypocrisy and double standards that many men have in regards to sexuality is mind boggling and IMO, stupid.

I was specifically talking about number 7. Why would anyone want to be with someone who is not as smart as them. "That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught." How can that really be taken seriously?

First of all, thanks to BBl for posting it.

Okay......*smiles*

I understand it to mean naivetee or someone you could manipulate if you had to. Not smart as in erudition or even skills....

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Sis thats the fucking truth for real. I had actually made a thread on here about that some time ago about how men don't like smart women.

I'll bump it for you. But maybe it's the niggas that YOU fuck with that don't want smart women. Step ya game up.

 

[Black Broadway Legend]

I understand that. The hypocrisy and double standards that many men have in regards to sexuality is mind boggling and IMO, stupid.

I was specifically talking about number 7. Why would anyone want to be with someone who is not as smart as them. "That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught." How can that really be taken seriously?

I think it should be taken seriously. Most men, not all but most, would rather be the superior in the relationship--financially, raw intelligence-wise, etc. And believe it or not, I meet a lot of women who would also prefer it that way.

I think more often that not, if a woman exceeds a man's aptitude in certain critical areas, it would make him undesirable for her.

Of course, it would be nice to meet your equal. But so would a truce between Israel and Palestine.

 

[sexynbi976]

You say your man is dragging his feet. You've been together for years and he hasn't proposed? Newsflash! He's not afraid of getting married, per se. He just doesn't want to marry you.

Unfortunately, some men make you think that they're just not ready but you're wifey...if you could just wait until they're ready. But I think deep down we (some women) know the deal...but just don't want to believe it.

It's hard to believe the truth.

 

[blackras9]

I think I subconsciously chose everything about my wife EXCEPT #5. We butt heads alot because we both come from fatherless homes where the woman picked up the slack for EVERYTHING. As a result when I put my foot down she tries to take the alpha position, she usually falls back when she realizes that's not the smart thing to do to keep a man. Sometimes she tries to play superwoman-who-doesn't-need-a-man bullshit. Shit's frustrating sometimes.

 

[voiceofthestreet]

Thursday, July 3, 2008

"Here Comes The Bride"

Okay:

And so the ladies ask, What exactly is 'Wifey Material'?

You hear rappers talking about it all the time. "I might wife her" etc. Not that we should be listening to rappers for relationship advice. Present company excluded, of course.

Well, ladies, I am here to tell you what that's all about. We men, believe it or not, are indoctrinated with just as much bullshit as you all are about what we should be looking for in a spouse.

Women are taught to be far less discriminating, however. Your goal is to get married. Who exactly you are going to marry is a very flexible concept. The When and the How are far more important.

But for us it's all about the Who.

For women, you're basically looking for a handsome, kind, financially stable man who's willing to commit. That's about it. Just four simple requisites. And most of you would settle for three out of four.

The Jesus Freaks are gonna want a man who's into The Lord and all. That will trump the other four.

If she's just a plain old Freak, she's gonna want a man who can satisfy her in bed. And that may trump the other four.

Barring those two exceptions, that's it in a nutshell. And I think you'd be hard pressed to find a woman who would disagree.

As far as men go, it's a whole 'nother story. See, the misconception is that men don't want to commit, don't want to get married. Not it at all actually. We're just a lot pickier than you all are.

You say your man is dragging his feet. You've been together for years and he hasn't proposed? Newsflash! He's not afraid of getting married, per se. He just doesn't want to marry you.

So how do we decide who is 'Wifey Material'? Those of you ladies with kind, loving and involved fathers know exactly what it is. He's been molding you from the day you were born. He may not have said the words, "If you do that, no one's going to want to marry you." But, trust me, it was the motivation behind almost everything he ever said and did for you.

Even us progressive fathers who teach our daughters that marriage is not a life goal but something that some people are blessed to experience, also do not want our daughters to become the kind of women who are unmarriable.

So here it is, in list format, in order of importance, for easy reference:

1. Sexual History: I know. I know. Hypocritical. Silly. Whatever. We don't necessarily want to discover your vagina, we just don't want to feel like we're signing in at Ellis Island.

2. Beauty: Sure it's relative, but only to a certain extent. Only those creeps from Divorce Court marry ugly women.

3. Projected Weight Gain: Nothing wrong with a heavy woman. I like something to grab. The question is, how much heavier is she going to get? It's important to know. A married couple should have a well-balanced weight ratio.

4. Temperament: Is she going to cut your dick off while you're sleeping or suggest counseling?

5. Personality: Most men find a reserved shyness a good indicator. I know I do. We can't have two hams in the house.

6. Domesticality: If that's a word. But you get my meaning. She doesn't have to do everything, but she should be able to. Nothing worse than a woman who couldn't cook you a meal even if she wanted to. Except, perhaps, a woman with a dirty bathroom. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

7. Intelligence: Most men, I would say, would prefer a woman who is slightly less intelligent than they are. That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught.

8. Sexuality: And, yes, this is always last on the list. Only a truly silly man would make it of primary concern.

And here is the logic.

If one of the main reasons you marry a woman is she satisfies you sexually, you are in for a big surprise. The woman who is fucking your brains out nightly and giving you unsolicited blowjobs in movie theaters is going to cut the water supply off just as soon as you say "I do". Now that's a fact and I don't care what anyone has to say about that.

You, my friend, are a victim of the oldest known form of manipulation: The Old Bait and Switch.

An experienced, mature man knows that it's better to settle down with a woman who isn't trying to pretend like your dick is the cosmic center of the galaxy.

Slow and steady wins the race.


And that's it basically. As you can see, we have twice as many criteria. And, men, despite what you may think, are far more thoughtful and complicated than most of you give us credit for.

Conduct yourselves accordingly.



Thanks for reading.


Download the new single "In The Kitchen" and the new Freestyle of the Week FOR FREE.


GOBAMA!


Postscript: And, oh yeah. A lot of women, of course, would settle for good old financial stability and/or wealth. And who could blame them with the price of gas these days?


*taken from http://coolceebrown.blogspot.com*

I AGREE WITH MOST OF THESE BUT UHHHH NUMBER SEVEN UHHHHH I UHHHH NAW

 

[Robeson]

I understand that. The hypocrisy and double standards that many men have in regards to sexuality is mind boggling and IMO, stupid.

I was specifically talking about number 7. Why would anyone want to be with someone who is not as smart as them. "That way when we cheat we are less likely to get caught." How can that really be taken seriously?

So you regularly read the replies on this post and you don't feel that many black men (and men in general) are intimidated by women with smarts?

 

[LeroyDibiase]

So you regularly read the replies on this post and you don't feel that many black men (and men in general) are intimidated by women with smarts?

Nigga we get it, you're "smart".

 

[PrincessC]

So you regularly read the replies on this post and you don't feel that many black men (and men in general) are intimidated by women with smarts?

The black "men" on BGOL are not representative of the men I know in real life. I can count on one hand the men on here I would even associate myself with. The men in my circle are not intimidated by intelligence, or the fact that a woman might be smarter than them. So, number 7 does not make any sense to me.

 

[Robeson]

The black "men" on BGOL are not representative of the men I know in real life. I can count on one hand the men on here I would even associate myself with. The men in my circle are not intimidated by intelligence, or the fact that a woman might be smarter than them. So, number 7 does not make any sense to me.

My apologies. Didn't realize you traveled in such rarefied air. Guess all of my collegues with PhDs that complain about men being intimidated by their intelligence/accomplishment need to just seek a higher class of dude. I'm sure they would be interested in how you are able to avoid the boors.

 

[Robeson]

Nigga we get it, you're "smart".

So is anybody with a normal human intellect. It's just that I realize I am, as opposed to most black folk that have bought the artificially constructed fait accompli of their intellectual inferiority (I am virtually certain you have read "Mis-Education of the Negro"). Just look around you, on this board an elsewhere. You are surrounded by folk who have accepted the myth that they are "dumb." I make no apologies for not doing so.

Now some of the younger dames seem to think thety are special because they are doing well in school wnd in their careers while the brothers are often catching cases and making time. They are too young to understand the game is designed that way, in that nobody is in the least threatened by a black female with a PhD or an MD, whereas a black man with such a credential is an absolute fucking threat. It is a game that has been intentionally designed and deployed, and more than a few of you on the board are aware of this (I would name names, but then I would be kissing ass). I have had enough intelligent exchances with real thinkers (I don't care about their educational level, they are well informed and think through shit) to warrant setting expectations for all of ya'll. If you don't meet em, that's okay because I ain't nobody's daddy, but I will have the expectations nonethelesss (even for you, LD, who I figure is one of the brighter cats on here). Obama, by the way, has totally fucked the game up forever, and had better watch his back at all times.

I like threads like this, it points out how much black folks have swallowed the game like a hungry big-mouth bass.

This kind of shit seems to really piss you off. Why? It only looks like I'm showing off because I won't pretend to be a coon or a bufoon. Never liked that role, and will never accept it. Anyone that doesn't like it can kiss my highly intelligent ass...

 

[SWATLANTA]

...Anyone that doesn't like it can kiss my highly intelligent ass...

You wax poetically far too much for my taste, but this real nigga closing statement made me laugh out loud...

 

[PrincessC]

So is anybody with a normal human intellect. It's just that I realize I am, as opposed to most black folk that have bought the artificially constructed fait accompli of their intellectual inferiority (I am virtually certain you have read "Mis-Education of the Negro"). Just look around you, on this board an elsewhere. You are surrounded by folk who have accepted the myth that they are "dumb." I make no apologies for not doing so.

Now some of the younger dames seem to think thety are special because they are doing well in school wnd in their careers while the brothers are often catching cases and making time. They are too young to understand the game is designed that way, in that nobody is in the least threatened by a black female with a PhD or an MD, whereas a black man with such a credential is an absolute fucking threat. It is a game that has been intentionally designed and deployed, and more than a few of you on the board are aware of this (I would name names, but then I would be kissing ass). I have had enough intelligent exchances with real thinkers (I don't care about their educational level, they are well informed and think through shit) to warrant setting expectations for all of ya'll. If you don't meet em, that's okay because I ain't nobody's daddy, but I will have the expectations nonethelesss (even for you, LD, who I figure is one of the brighter cats on here). Obama, by the way, has totally fucked the game up forever, and had better watch his back at all times.

I like threads like this, it points out how much black folks have swallowed the game like a hungry big-mouth bass.

This kind of shit seems to really piss you off. Why? It only looks like I'm showing off because I won't pretend to be a coon or a bufoon. Never liked that role, and will never accept it. Anyone that doesn't like it can kiss my highly intelligent ass...

I bet LD wasn't expecting all that.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

So is anybody with a normal human intellect. It's just that I realize I am, as opposed to most black folk that have bought the artificially constructed fait accompli of their intellectual inferiority (I am virtually certain you have read "Mis-Education of the Negro"). Just look around you, on this board an elsewhere. You are surrounded by folk who have accepted the myth that they are "dumb." I make no apologies for not doing so.

Now some of the younger dames seem to think thety are special because they are doing well in school wnd in their careers while the brothers are often catching cases and making time. They are too young to understand the game is designed that way, in that nobody is in the least threatened by a black female with a PhD or an MD, whereas a black man with such a credential is an absolute fucking threat. It is a game that has been intentionally designed and deployed, and more than a few of you on the board are aware of this (I would name names, but then I would be kissing ass). I have had enough intelligent exchances with real thinkers (I don't care about their educational level, they are well informed and think through shit) to warrant setting expectations for all of ya'll. If you don't meet em, that's okay because I ain't nobody's daddy, but I will have the expectations nonethelesss (even for you, LD, who I figure is one of the brighter cats on here). Obama, by the way, has totally fucked the game up forever, and had better watch his back at all times.

I like threads like this, it points out how much black folks have swallowed the game like a hungry big-mouth bass.

This kind of shit seems to really piss you off. Why? It only looks like I'm showing off because I won't pretend to be a coon or a bufoon. Never liked that role, and will never accept it. Anyone that doesn't like it can kiss my highly intelligent ass...

I mean your posts just reek of pretentiousness. You try too hard. Seriously. For instance, the above garrulous invective could have been summarized in a few simple sentences; concise and to the point. It's not that you're intelligent, there are a lot of intelligent niggas on this board, you are not unique, it's the fact that you feel you must overstate you scholastic aptitude in each and every post. I'm not asking you to dumb yourself down, no no, to do so would be disgrace. I just want you to know that you lay it on real thick on occasion.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

I bet LD wasn't expecting all that.

[flash]http://youtube.com/v/MKu79g1IPU8[/flash]

 

[sean69]

[flash]http://youtube.com/v/MKu79g1IPU8[/flash]

WTF LD?
Where do you get this shit?

































Oh. And ...

"garrulous invective" <----- Daaaaaayummmmm!!! OOOhhhhh shit!!!

Brrraaaaaatt!!

 

[PrincessC]

[flash]http://youtube.com/v/MKu79g1IPU8[/flash]

Get over yourself, dipshit. That is one thing you would never, ever have to worry about.
You have your own issues...why don't you come up for air off of Da Don?

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Get over yourself, dipshit. That is one thing you would never, ever have to worry about.
You have your own issues...why don't you come up for air off of Da Don?

HAHAHA, u mad? Are you and Followup pulling from the same petty playbook now??? YES, because I have agreed with the man two or three times, I MUST be on his nuts. What kind of bass ackwards KINDERGARTEN logic is that? What next, do I need a cooties shot??? You must have missed the times I called him everything but a child of God for banning Lonestar. Why don't you go read that thread and see exactly how much on his dick I was??

[flash]http://youtube.com/v/WiWNjlhHjeg[/flash]
Damn Jojo sums it up pretty well at the end...

 

[shaddyvillethug]

HAHAHA, u mad? Are you and Followup pulling from the same petty playbook now??? YES, because I have agreed with the man two or three times, I MUST be on his nuts. What kind of bass ackwards KINDERGARTEN logic is that? What next, do I need a cooties shot??? You must have missed the times I called him everything but a child of God for banning Lonestar. Why don't you go read that thread and see exactly how much on his dick I was??

[flash]http://youtube.com/v/WiWNjlhHjeg[/flash]
Damn Jojo sums it up pretty well at the end...

****diess*****


ol i wanna use when we play dis game lookin' ass niggu

Roberson don't u get piped regularly?

 

[Robeson]

It's not that you're intelligent, there are a lot of intelligent niggas on this board, you are not unique, it's the fact that you feel you must overstate you scholastic aptitude in each and every post. I'm not asking you to dumb yourself down, no no, to do so would be disgrace. I just want you to know that you lay it on real thick on occasion.

Only a fool ignores valid criticism. I accept the "lay it real thick" observation. The goal is to exchange thoughts, not to be obnoxious for the fuck of it. But to me language is the ultimate tool humans have to punch holes of light into the darkness of ignorance. Nobody accuses T.I. or Ludda of "laying it on" too thick in their genre. My genre is just different. Now, I am not a multi-millionaire entertainer, but I was trained to use language as an effective tool. To the extent that it alienates, it becomes less useful, but I couldn't "dumb it down" if I wanted to. I would sound ridiculous.

But there is context. If we are talking pussy, let's talk pussy. No need for eludication there- chick's got a big ass and nice tits and sucks a mean dick. Concise.

But this thread was about guys having unrealistic (and they are clearly unrealistic) expectations for potential wives. That's a sober topic, and no matter how much it pisses you or anyone else off, I deal with serious shit seriously.

Hey, and fuck you LD!

 

[Robeson]

****diess*****

Roberson don't u get piped regularly?

Acutually, no, your mother and your sisters are too busy sucking my dick for me to give anyone else any time..

And it's Robeson, but an ignorant fuck like you wouldn't know anything about what that means. Put the fucking crayons up when you are done, okay???

 

[Temujin]

They forgot number 1 on my list Projected Net Worth.

 

[owl]

But this thread was about guys having unrealistic (and they are clearly unrealistic) expectations for potential wives. That's a sober topic, and no matter how much it pisses you or anyone else off, I deal with serious shit seriously.

Hey, and fuck you LD!

I think they are unrealistic only to the degree that they get combined. I wouldn't expect the pulchritudinous, petite to thin sister to also be shy, reserved AND domesticated, with a low sexual history. In my experience with women certain physical attributes breed psychological and emotional characteristics based on social expectations, pressures, and perceptions. Of course I deal exclusively with Black American women(SISTAZ), and we are a culture produced in a war-like condition, thus they are war-like...and I love it...

Each sentiments represents a relatively different, well, if we could quantify them, number or level. Let us assume I bite, and I wish to pursue a woman based on these qualifications. That means I want a woman who has pulchritude( isn't using one word easier than two,namely physical beauty?) TO ME. Whose sexual history doesn't appall, or to be candid - scare ME...lol. Now, personality is in this list causes me to differ because I like a challenge, as well as intelligence, I actually prefer a woman who has better credentials, whether that be in degrees or street cred, than I, mainly because that is what I attract, and I have learned to like what likes me most.

For ME, temperament is another one of those categories I agree. Her level of domestication means a lot because we are going to tire of my recipe book pretty quickly, and I tend to be a mess...lol. Of course, if she can handle the light weight, I got the yard and the car, the plumbing, gas issues, electric issues, well, you know, my end.

PROJECTED WEIGHT GAIN is another relative consideration: personally, I like meat. Of course, I also like physical flexibility. I know many brothers who say they don't, I don't know many who aren't attracted to plus sized women in reality, but hey, to each his own lie...but I do know the effects of pregnancy and unfortunately, what you look like is going to effect perceived beauty. Yet, even that is my personal consideration, and based on what I LIKE, not necessarily some IDEAL.

 

[Robeson]

I think they are unrealistic only to the degree that they get combined. I wouldn't expect the pulchritudinous, petite to thin sister to also be shy, reserved AND domesticated, with a low sexual history. In my experience with women certain physical attributes breed psychological and emotional characteristics based on social expectations, pressures, and perceptions. Of course I deal exclusively with Black American women(SISTAZ), and we are a culture produced in a war-like condition, thus they are war-like...and I love it...

Let me rephrase. Replace "clearly" with "somewhat." I get the point that guys are trying to buy for the longrun, and some predictors are fairly reliable (like if her mom weighs 300 lbs, even though she may weigh a delicious 130 now, look out). Atittude? No arugment. But NOTHING changes a woman's atittude more than a wedding ring.

All I am saying is that anyone who is trying to eliminate the risk involved in picking a mate is fooling themselves. Can you make an intelligent choice? No doubt. But I have a cousin that was a meticulous in his selection as humanly possible. Even had looks down the priority list, cuz he was a black MD and had had his fill of gorgeous airheads. She had education, was physically active, religious, and was even kind of cute.. The marriage was a complete and utter disaster.

So, yup, have a set of criteria to go by, but undersand that you will always be buying a pig in a poke to some extent.

 

[jucurious]

hmmmmmm

very very very interesting conversation going on here

i have nothin to add to it perse but i do appreciate the responses

 

[owl]

Let me rephrase. Replace "clearly" with "somewhat." I get the point that guys are trying to buy for the longrun, and some predictors are fairly reliable (like if her mom weighs 300 lbs, even though she may weigh a delicious 130 now, look out). Atittude? No arugment. But NOTHING changes a woman's atittude more than a wedding ring.

All I am saying is that anyone who is trying to eliminate the risk involved in picking a mate is fooling themselves. Can you make an intelligent choice? No doubt. But I have a cousin that was a meticulous in his selection as humanly possible. Even had looks down the priority list, cuz he was a black MD and had had his fill of gorgeous airheads. She had education, was physically active, religious, and was even kind of cute.. The marriage was a complete and utter disaster.

So, yup, have a set of criteria to go by, but undersand that you will always be buying a pig in a poke to some extent.

Wow! I hate to hear that, but you are absolutely right. The objectification of the female is definitely going to leave a lot of brothers upset, because after all, we are dealing with humans(pardon my american, but ain't that fucked up that I even have to mention that?!!?) and we change and grow and decay. Ultimately, the question is can we grow together on all levels? Can we stay committed to the growth?

 

[OnSlaught]

I propose that we come up with the "BGOL Dictionary" the way y'all are throwing around the big words and shit.

I can just imagine the subtitle for the book: "The dictionary for postin' pics, talkin' shit, yet sounding indubitably pseudo-intelligent!"



Believe me, I know there are some very intelligent brothas and sistas on the board, yet do you always have to PROVE you are???

Don't let people and their insecurities make you insecure...

 

[LeroyDibiase]

I propose that we come up with the "BGOL Dictionary" the way y'all are throwing around the big words and shit.

I can just imagine the subtitle for the book: "The dictionary for postin' pics, talkin' shit, yet sounding indubitably pseudo-intelligent!"



Believe me, I know there are some very intelligent brothas and sistas on the board, yet do you always have to PROVE you are???

Don't let people and their insecurities make you insecure...

That's all I'm fucking saying. I figured you'd understand. I know Sean, Ons, Shane, some others, are really intelligent people, but there's no ostentation in their posts. You can discuss deep topics without sounding like you have a thesaurus right next to you while you type.

 

[Robeson]

To a moron, complete sentences look like ostentation. I play to my audience. If I am responding to certain people (I won't say who, because I don't want to kiss their ass), I let it fly because I could never talk over their heads if I tried. When responding to a fool, I use a fool's language. The point is not to use big words to show off, it's to use language appropriate for the discourse (that means conversation). As I said, when I am responding to certain folks who I know understand my reasoning I speak as precisely as I feel I need to, because they "get it". If anyone else can't keep up, fuck em.