Gasol Vows To Be More Aggressive

[cranrab]

Everybody isn't "allowed" to shoot whenever they want to

you think Turiaf and Mihm could've just started taking multiple shots when they out there.

could they have? certainly.

would they have? certainly NOT.

why? not because they aren't allowed to. that's laughable. because they have BRAINS. basketball IQ. they're not stat chasing glory hounds.



and BTW, you were so happy in proclaiming you watched the game this evening. so why didn't you present the answer to your own question about touches?

ah, because you didn't really watch the game.

thanks.

 

[cranrab]

You playing the dumb role again i see, a "touch" is when you receive the ball you can either take a "shot" or make a "pass". Now that i cleared it up answer my question

past your bedtime? is that why you're punchy?

son, i pointed out that pau gasol had a FGA. so therefore, he obviously had a touch.

 

[pookie]

past your bedtime? is that why you're punchy?

son, i pointed out that pau gasol had a FGA. so therefore, he obviously had a touch.

Ok you wore me down playing the dumb role if you so dumb that you can't read and answer a simple question then........

OK now tell me this when Gasol ended that drought was that the first time he had touched the ball during that stretch, answer the same question about Odom

i'm out peace Clown

 

[cranrab]

i'm out peace Clown

P had to dodge his own question because he didn't watch the game.

those of us who DID watch the game know that lamar odom had ZERO touches during his 2 minute part of that scoreless Q4 stretch.

tobe had a 1 and done - (go google that, P).

pau gasol also had 2 touches RUNNING THE TRIANGLE. once he passed out of the post to tobe with 12 on the shot clock, who proceeded to turn the ball over. so care to answer why, when the rest of the team was playing nice, tobe dominated the ball with HALF of the shot clock remaining?

the second time pau gasol passed out to derek fisher with 7 on the shot clock, and derek fisher pulled up for a deep jumper.

all things you might've known if you truly had watched the game.

 

[pookie]

P had to dodge his own question because he didn't watch the game.

those of us who DID watch the game know that lamar odom had ZERO touches during his 2 minute part of that scoreless Q4 stretch.

tobe had a 1 and done - (go google that, P).

pau gasol also had 2 touches RUNNING THE TRIANGLE. once he passed out of the post to tobe with 12 on the shot clock, who proceeded to turn the ball over. so care to answer why, when the rest of the team was playing nice, tobe dominated the ball with HALF of the shot clock remaining?

the second time pau gasol passed out to derek fisher with 7 on the shot clock, and derek fisher pulled up for a deep jumper.

all things you might've known if you truly had watched the game.

So it took you 30 minutes to goog.....i mean understand the question i asked. If the rest of team was playing nice then they wouldn't even have been in the situation they were in. On the turnover it came during a good defense play when Kobe drove and tried to pass to Fisher, the entire game was discussed WHILE IT WAS GOING ON in the top two threads on this page by me Rollie Fingaz and a few other cats. I called you out more than once to get you to be a part of it but i see you chose to ignore me (answered other cats questions) until you thought i had left the building. Your failure to engage me while the game was going but come on after the game is over with "stats" gave me even more evidence that you have no basketball knowledge outside of a internet stat site

 

[cranrab]

I called you out more than once to get you to be a part of it but i see you chose to ignore me (answered other cats questions)

quote yourself where you "called me out" AND had something to say. and by something to say, i mean something worth responding to or commenting on.

 

[cranrab]

So it took you 30 minutes to goog.....i mean understand the question i asked.

uh, i answered that question immediately.

as usual, you were unable to read the answer.



you hung yourself when you asked about if it was the first time lamar odom got a touch. which NEVER happened. but yeah, i'm sure you watched the game, right?

 

[pookie]

uh, i answered that question immediately.

as usual, you were unable to read the answer.



you hung yourself when you asked about if it was the first time lamar odom got a touch. which NEVER happened. but yeah, i'm sure you watched the game, right?

You played the dumb role of "i don't know the difference between a shot and a touch" for 25 minutes . I asked the question because you made it seem like they weren't going to Gasol and when they "finally" did he scored when in fact he had a touch that he kicked back out he could've took it to the basket but decided to pass and was the two points Odom scored after a result of them going to him or him getting a rebound and put back? Take a look thru the previous pages of this thread and the Kobe legacy thread and see who was watching the game and who was sitting at their computer waiting for the stat sites to be updated

 

[cranrab]

I asked the question because you made it seem like they weren't going to Gasol and when they "finally" did he scored when in fact he had a touch that he kicked back out he could've took it to the basket but decided to pass

you play too many video basketball games.

in REAL life, basketball doesn't work this way:

PG passes to PF/C, PF/C immediately shoots.

you've repeatedly (in this thread and others) written statements that seem to indicate that when a player (in this case, pau gasol) passes the ball, he releases ALL expectation of a return pass at later time. why?

is it because you are unfamiliar with the concept of "re-post"?

pau gasol receives an entry pass to the triangle's level 2. he passes out. the EXPECTATION is that the ball will continue to move. NOT stay in the hands of your favorite player. why is that so difficult for you to absorb?

and before you change the subject (again), why did you dodge the lamar odom issue? lamar odom had NO touches during that scoreless stretch. so doesn't that EXPLODE your theory of the ball being shared?

and was the two points Odom scored after a result of them going to him or him getting a rebound and put back?

sure you watched the game.

a rebound and put back?



lamar odom took the ball to the rim for a layup off a pass. first time he touched the ball in 2:30 and he gets fouled and converts the FTs. what a suprise. well, for you it IS a surprise.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

i don't think he understands the TRIANGLE OFFENSE

 

[pookie]

you play too many video basketball games.

in REAL life, basketball doesn't work this way:

PG passes to PF/C, PF/C immediately shoots.

you've repeatedly (in this thread and others) written statements that seem to indicate that when a player (in this case, pau gasol) passes the ball, he releases ALL expectation of a return pass at later time. why?

is it because you are unfamiliar with the concept of "re-post"?

pau gasol receives an entry pass to the triangle's level 2. he passes out. the EXPECTATION is that the ball will continue to move. NOT stay in the hands of your favorite player. why is that so difficult for you to absorb?

and before you change the subject (again), why did you dodge the lamar odom issue? lamar odom had NO touches during that scoreless stretch. so doesn't that EXPLODE your theory of the ball being shared?

i don't think he understands the TRIANGLE OFFENSE

I understand the "drawn out" concept completely but as someone who actually plays the game i also understand that the shit just isn't gonna go by concept half of the time, something seems you and Cranrab don't understand. Cranrab up talking about repost and (which was happening sometimes) when alot of times Gasol was catching the ball getting his feet set making a move and then either kicking it back out or shooting, after all that foot setting and making moves when he would pass it back out the shot clock was usually low so there was no time for a repost and since Lamar Odom didn't touch the ball that meant no sharing was going on when in fact he himself said Kobe, Fisher and Gasol all touched the ball. We need a BGOL chatroom to discuss the game during the game because you go cats coming in here "after" the game talking about stats and shooting % blah blah and you just can judge how a game would come out based on that stuff but as long as the stuff he spouting is anti-Kobe the haters in here taking it as the gospel. I already know Cranrab is a clown and if i'm correct i think Shadyvillethug was one of those guys saying if they had left Kobe on the bench the rest of the game after they had that lead in Game 4 then the Lakers would've won so he's almost in the same place Cranrab is

 

[cranrab]

I understand the "drawn out" concept completely but as someone who actually plays the game i also understand that the shit just isn't gonna go by concept half of the time, something seems you and Cranrab don't understand.

exhibit B that you've never played or coached ORGANIZED basketball. there is 1 word that sums up (and REFUTES) your entire long winded sentence: execution.

both the celtics and the fakers are in the NBA finals because they subscribe to their team "concepts". or do you think they're on the floor making shit up as they go?

Cranrab up talking about repost and (which was happening sometimes) when alot of times Gasol was catching the ball getting his feet set making a move and then either kicking it back out or shooting

that's EXACTLY what a big man in the post is supposed to do. catch the ball, survey his situation, and either shoot or pass the rock. you make it seem as though he was committing some fundamental error.

after all that foot setting and making moves when he would pass it back out the shot clock was usually low so there was no time for a repost

more bullshit fantasy. if you had watched the game, or EVEN READ THE INFORMATION I POSTED FOR YOU, pau gasol passed out of the post with 12 seconds on the shot clock to tobe and 7 seconds on the shot clock to derek fisher. THAT'S MORE THAN AMPLE TIME to get a pass back after re-posting.

and since Lamar Odom didn't touch the ball that meant no sharing was going on when in fact he himself said Kobe, Fisher and Gasol all touched the ball.

lamar odom didn't touch the ball during that scoreless stretch. that's fact. are you disagreeing with that fact? the point is, that it defies LOGIC and GOOD BASKETBALL that you wouldn't get the ball into the hands of the player that is shooting 80% FGAs.

We need a BGOL chatroom to discuss the game during the game because you go cats coming in here "after" the game talking about stats and shooting % blah blah and you just can judge how a game would come out based on that stuff but as long as the stuff he spouting is anti-Kobe the haters in here taking it as the gospel.

i was the first person on the SPORTS board to suggest this. no takers, though.

1 inherent problem (that is only too apparent) is that you cannot even see the problems WITH THE BENEFIT OF REPLAY AND HINDSIGHT. so what makes you think you will see the problems in real time?

 

[pookie]

exhibit B that you've never played or coached ORGANIZED basketball. there is 1 word that sums up (and REFUTES) your entire long winded sentence: execution.

both the celtics and the fakers are in the NBA finals because they subscribe to their team "concepts". or do you think they're on the floor making shit up as they go?

Like i said half the time you're not able to execute the offense to of course you gotta in a word "make up"/adjust the offense to get a shot

that's EXACTLY what a big man in the post is supposed to do. catch the ball, survey his situation, and either shoot or pass the rock. you make it seem as though he was committing some fundamental error.



more bullshit fantasy. if you had watched the game, or EVEN READ THE INFORMATION I POSTED FOR YOU, pau gasol passed out of the post with 12 seconds on the shot clock to tobe and 7 seconds on the shot clock to derek fisher. THAT'S MORE THAN AMPLE TIME to get a pass back after re-posting.

Like i said it was "usually" not always and again like i told someone earlier its not realistic to think one person is gonna take all the shots, it sounds logical on paper but in a game that shit just aint gonna happen, your living in "fantasyland" if you think its gonna always go that way

lamar odom didn't touch the ball during that scoreless stretch. that's fact. are you disagreeing with that fact? the point is, that it defies LOGIC and GOOD BASKETBALL that you wouldn't get the ball into the hands of the player that is shooting 80% FGAs.

I wasn't refuting your Odom didn't touch the ball statement i was refuting the no sharing claim you made in which you yourself named players that touched the ball





i was the first person on the SPORTS board to suggest this. no takers, though.

1 inherent problem (that is only too apparent) is that you cannot even see the problems WITH THE BENEFIT OF REPLAY AND HINDSIGHT. so what makes you think you will see the problems in real time?

Like i've been saying for the longest all your quotes are based on stats after the game has been played, for some reason you don't/don't want to understand that you can't call a game based on that stuff

 

[cranrab]

Like i've been saying for the longest all your quotes are based on stats after the game has been played, for some reason you don't/don't want to understand that you can't call a game based on that stuff

really?

is "re-posting" a stat?

as for post game comments, i do make some. but almost everyone on the SPORTS board (aside from you) knows that i have often made game time posts.

and exhibit C that you've never played ORGANIZED basketball at a college or higher level. because if you had, you'd know first hand that your assistant coaches hand you SCOUTING REPORTS "based on that stuff".

examples:

"player X drives to his left 75% of the time"

"manu ginobili takes half his shots from beyond the arc, so be sure to close out strong"

"ben wallace and shaquille o'neal have poor FG shooting percentages, so remember you can foul off the ball before the 2 minute mark"

"tony parker has a poor shooting percentage from beyond the arc, so give him space and guard against penetration"

you pretenders make me laugh with your fear of statistics and the power they wield.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

they still lost game 4 right?

 

[pookie]

they still lost game 4 right?

Tell me again do you think they would've won the game if they had left Kobe on the bench i was see it in print again

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

AWwwwwwwww...are you crying??


Vujacic: Celtics Play Too Rough
More Lakers News

Jun 17, 2008 10:36 AM EST

Lakers' guard Sasha Vujacic believes that the Celtics have been playing too rough through the first five games of the NBA Finals, according to The Los Angeles Daily News.

"Phil (Jackson) told me after the game that he thought I was a bit emotional. And I think he was right; I didn't manage it right," Vujacic said. "It all started from that poke in the eye (by Celtics' guard Sam Cassell). I got a little bit mad because the ref was right there, and he didn't call it."

Sasha believes that Boston gets away with quite a bit.

"They (Boston) foul a lot. They get away with a lot of fouls," Vujacic said. "When we go back to Boston, we know that they are going do a lot of moving picks like they do, and they're probably going to get away with it. But we got to stay smart, stay focused, and play with poise."

 

[Spectrum]

^^^

Wow...

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Not enough gas
By Shira Springer
Globe Staff / June 18, 2008

Pau Gasol knew what he needed to do last night. He set his sights on a repeat of his 19-point, 13-rebound, 6-assist, 2-block performance in Game 5, believing the Lakers needed at least that much to extend the Finals to a Game 7.

He fell short, though - 11 points and 8 rebounds in 32 minutes - and the Lakers got blown out.

Before the game, Gasol said, "I need to give my best and play really aggressive, rebounding, defending, attacking the rim, making sharp plays, making passes. I didn't have any turnovers [in Game 5]. I was pretty focused on finding my teammates. I need to have one of those games again."

Asked what prompted such a strong performance, Gasol said, "Back against the wall and pain of the Game 4 loss, those two factors got me going and got me to give my best, all I got left. Sometimes it's a lot. Sometimes it's not as much.

"I give my best and I know how crucial these games are. We don't know when we're going to have these opportunities again."

That said, the Celtics' injury report was irrelevant to Gasol. He didn't care whether Kendrick Perkins played or not, though Boston missed its starting center in Game 5 and Gasol took advantage.

"I try to keep the same aggressiveness, whoever's out there, no matter what," said Gasol.

Perkins did end up starting, but Gasol did not think the center had made as big an impact in the Finals as in other series. According to Gasol, the biggest benefit of Perkins playing is that his big body wears down the Lakers' big men.

"He plays physical," said Gasol. "You're going to feel that down the stretch."

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Pau: Just Wait Until Next Year
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Jun 20, 2008 9:37 AM EST
Pau Gasol insists that things will be a little different for the Lakers next season, according to The Orange County Register.

He claims that he will keep the memory of the team's Game Five victory in his mind this offseason.

"I'm definitely going to keep these feelings because it wasn't pleasant to see all the Boston fans go crazy on us after the game and hitting the bus and all that crap. It's just something I'm going to keep in mind all year long until we get there again," he said.

Fans in L.A. cheered immediately for Gasol upon his arrival midseason but have blamed him for the team's collapse in the Finals against Boston.

"You play a good game and you're the king of the world," he said. "You don't play a good game, then all of a sudden you're soft and you didn't play well, and it's your fault."

 

[Diamels]

Fans in L.A. cheered immediately for Gasol upon his arrival midseason but have blamed him for the team's collapse in the Finals against Boston.

"You play a good game and you're the king of the world," he said. "You don't play a good game, then all of a sudden you're soft and you didn't play well, and it's your fault."

I wonder what made the people turn like that?

 

[Diamels]

Vujacic: Celtics Play Too Rough
More Lakers News

Jun 17, 2008 10:36 AM EST

Lakers' guard Sasha Vujacic believes that the Celtics have been playing too rough through the first five games of the NBA Finals, according to The Los Angeles Daily News.

"Phil (Jackson) told me after the game that he thought I was a bit emotional. And I think he was right; I didn't manage it right," Vujacic said. "It all started from that poke in the eye (by Celtics' guard Sam Cassell). I got a little bit mad because the ref was right there, and he didn't call it."

Sasha believes that Boston gets away with quite a bit.

"They (Boston) foul a lot. They get away with a lot of fouls," Vujacic said. "When we go back to Boston, we know that they are going do a lot of moving picks like they do, and they're probably going to get away with it. But we got to stay smart, stay focused, and play with poise."

I going to laugh at this...