Barack Obama speaking on CSPAN now on Fatherhood

If black women didn't choose the wrong men to have kids with, who are not father material, this shit wouldn't be happening.

how about niggas stop bein the "wrong" man and man the fuck up...i am amazed that niggas are really tryin to place blame solely on the women...
 
That's all well and good as long as the 50% of black men that are unemployed are actually "looking for jobs". I'm so sick of dudes talking that "I can't find a job shit". Much of that is on them! It's a hard pill to swallow but I try my hardest to offer jobs to brothers all the time in my business and you wouldn't believe how many of them don't even turn up to the interview or come in late to the interview....

I get a chance to travel to many low key cities outside of the tri state and shit is really bad. There are not many jobs to be had and the ones that are there do not pay enough to eat and pay rent. Forget a mortgage. Thats not an excuse that real. Check the stats on Cleveland.

I think it all goes back to sisters having kids without fathers and them not seeing what a working man looks like.

Agreed

Also when has it been the governments job to "create jobs" for people? How can they accomplish this? How many people start businesses in the pursuit of "creating jobs"? No one does this. People create businesses for profit...not to create jobs for the community.

Yes and no. There used to be a public woks program. That's part of what got the US out of the great depression. The government has the ability to set minimum wage as well as tax and trade policy that will keep money cycling in cites in a healthy way. If it gets lopsided everything falls apart. Jobs are only created in response to the public having money. Government sets the policy that can promote this or royally fuck it up. The community benefits because money circulates and maintains a stable society.
 
You've made some of the most misogynistic comments on the board. You always find a way to blame women, black women, for every problem. That shit does not work in the real world. When are you gonna start shitting on these bum ass niggas with the same ferocity that you shit on black women?

thats the point, if she didn't choose to have sex with the bum it wouldn't have went down
 
how about niggas stop bein the "wrong" man and man the fuck up...i am amazed that niggas are really tryin to place blame solely on the women...

How you gone expect a nigga that ain't about shit to man up? All he trying to do is get some pussy, fuck being a dad. Nigga can't even take care of himself, how the fuck he gone take care of kid.
 
How you gone expect a nigga that ain't about shit to man up? All he trying to do is get some pussy, fuck being a dad. Nigga can't even take care of himself, how the fuck he gone take care of kid.

How is the girl any different? Why wasnt she just tryin to fuck also and what makes her necessarily able to take care of herself?
So she is in the same position but is just "supposed" to make it work? Your logic is contorted bro...
 
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How you gone expect a nigga that ain't about shit to man up? All he trying to do is get some pussy, fuck being a dad. Nigga can't even take care of himself, how the fuck he gone take care of kid.

Your argument makes no sense at all bruh........you need to stop watching Pastor Manning videos ASAP....shit is fucking with ya logic.
 
I feel your scenario but didnt the man fuck a woman that he didnt kno that well...it still took 2 people to make the ababy...even if they arent together, shouldnt they both contribute to the CHILD'S well being?

Yes he should but the nigga is (and was) shitty when she fucked him. He already in many counts has children he doesn't take care of. Therefore Tameka should have kept her legs closed and waited. The moral is, fucking shitty niggas will get you shitty results.

Again, I'm not letting him off the hook. But "She" should have been wiser in choosing who she decides to have a child with.
 
Black Men and Women need to step up

This is the bottom line!!!! As long as people are pointing fingers, they aren't fixing the problem. Barack is a black man, and it is appropriate for him to address other black men. Black men will respect this speech, NIGGAS will be mad.:rolleyes:
 
You've made some of the most misogynistic comments on the board. You always find a way to blame women, black women, for every problem. That shit does not work in the real world. When are you gonna start shitting on these bum ass niggas with the same ferocity that you shit on black women?

I'm going to quote you. Stop bitching and moaning! :lol:
I bet your dad didn't raise you....
 
Yes he should but the nigga is (and was) shitty when she fucked him. He already in many counts has children he doesn't take care of. Therefore Tameka should have kept her legs closed and waited. The moral is, fucking shitty niggas will get you shitty results.

Again, I'm not letting him off the hook. But "She" should have been wiser in choosing who she decides to have a child with.

aight...i see by that statement alone that you are just talking...you must be white...or oblivious to the real world so im gonna leave it at that...i sincerely hope you dont really think like you talk...:smh:
 
This is the bottom line!!!! As long as people are pointing fingers, they aren't fixing the problem. Barack is a black man, and it is appropriate for him to address other black men. Black men will respect this speech, NIGGAS will be mad.:rolleyes:

well put!
 
How is the girl any different? Why wasnt she just tryin to fuck also and what makes her necessarily able to take care of herself?
So she is in the same position but is just "supposed" to make it work? Your logic is contorted bro...

The girl is the chooser, she controls whats going to happen. She made the choice to fuck with the no good dude. Life is about choices, and your life is dictated by the choices that you make. A man can't force a woman to have sex with him, or impregnate her unless she gives the go ahead.
 
Yes he should but the nigga is (and was) shitty when she fucked him. He already in many counts has children he doesn't take care of. Therefore Tameka should have kept her legs closed and waited. The moral is, fucking shitty niggas will get you shitty results.

Again, I'm not letting him off the hook. But "She" should have been wiser in choosing who she decides to have a child with.

I don't quite understand your pov......why are you willing to place the responsibility disproportionately on women? No matter which way you slice this men and women are equally responsible for bringing children into this world. From a biological perspective women are shouldered with more of the burden but it still takes two to tango.

And :lol: @ the predictable ass tangent this thread took.
 
This is the bottom line!!!! As long as people are pointing fingers, they aren't fixing the problem. Barack is a black man, and it is appropriate for him to address other black men. Black men will respect this speech, NIGGAS will be mad.:rolleyes:
I agree with this statement 100% but what about the women? They should be addressed too. I would like to see Michelle make a similar speech addressed to women, but her words would be twisted around by the Republicans and used against her and the campaign. Who do ya'll think could make a speech addressed to the females without causing a "stir"?
 
This is the bottom line!!!! As long as people are pointing fingers, they aren't fixing the problem. Barack is a black man, and it is appropriate for him to address other black men. Black men will respect this speech, NIGGAS will be mad.:rolleyes:

...and there it is right there.
 
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Stop making excuses.. The man & the woman SHARE accountability. Too many mafuckas want this to be a one sided affair.

Woman can prevent becoming pregnant regardless of the man's agenda & it's her responsibility to do so.

Likewise, men can prevent impregnating a woman regardless of the woman's agenda & it's his responsibility to do so.

If both are irresponsible, once the baby is here the man HAS to be a father to his child. If he's not, he's a fuckin deadbeat & that shyt is inexcusable. Having said that, Barack Obama is from a single parent home so daddy being there is not a death sentence. Mom has to parent even if daddy isn't there & stop making fuckin excuses.

Too much blame going around. Trust, there's plenty of culpability on both sides.

However, his speech today was on Father's Day & his specific topic was father's who aren't in the home. They HAVE abandoned their children & they do need to man the fuck up, be men, & be fathers to the children they helped to make, period.
 
The girl is the chooser, she controls whats going to happen. She made the choice to fuck with the no good dude. Life is about choices, and your life is dictated by the choices that you make. A man can't force a woman to have sex with him, or impregnate her unless she gives the go ahead.

*Sigh* :smh:..........why are you letting this "no good dude" off the hook? He made choices too.
 
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Stop making excuses.. The man & the woman SHARE accountability. Too many mafuckas want this to be a one sided affair.

Woman can prevent becoming pregnant regardless of the man's agenda & it's her responsibility to do so.

Likewise, men can prevent impregnating a woman regardless of the woman's agenda & it's his responsibility to do so.

If both are irresponsible, once the baby is here the man HAS to be a father to his child. If he's not, he's a fuckin deadbeat & that shyt is inexcusable. Having said that, Barack Obama is from a single parent home so daddy being there is not a death sentence. Mom has to parent even if daddy isn't there & stop making fuckin excuses.

Too much blame going around. Trust, there's plenty of culpability on both sides.

However, his speech today was on Father's Day & his specific topic was father's who aren't in the home. They HAVE abandoned their children & they do need to man the fuck up, be men, & be fathers to the children they helped to make, period.

If she choose right its not one sided its both
If she choose wrong its wrong sided, its her fault
 
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Stop making excuses.. The man & the woman SHARE accountability. Too many mafuckas want this to be a one sided affair.

Woman can prevent becoming pregnant regardless of the man's agenda & it's her responsibility to do so.

Likewise, men can prevent impregnating a woman regardless of the woman's agenda & it's his responsibility to do so.

If both are irresponsible, once the baby is here the man HAS to be a father to his child. If he's not, he's a fuckin deadbeat & that shyt is inexcusable. Having said that, Barack Obama is from a single parent home so daddy being there is not a death sentence. Mom has to parent even if daddy isn't there & stop making fuckin excuses.

Too much blame going around. Trust, there's plenty of culpability on both sides.

However, his speech today was on Father's Day & his specific topic was father's who aren't in the home. They HAVE abandoned their children & they do need to man the fuck up, be men, & be fathers to the children they helped to make, period.

Co-sign - if the child comes out of the womb alive then the priority shifts from the two parents to the child. I couldn't agree more.
 
*Sigh* :smh:..........why are you letting this "no good dude" off the hook? He made choices too.

:lol: I let them off the hook because they won't amount to shit, that don't have to capacity to take responsibility for their actions.

Thats like me expecting the crack head down the street to someday become a road scholar and write books and give speeches and shit
 
If she choose right its not one sided its both
If she choose wrong its wrong sided, its her fault

If she choose right.. the guy's name to the child is DADDY.
If she choose wrong.. the guy's name to the child is DADDY.


He still made a choice & he's no less responsible for his choice regardless of her choice. Come off the bullshyt.
 
As much as I respect and support Barack.......

He is wrong on this shit

If he does not address the women in making better fucking choices, its all moot, this shit will continue on

Women are the ultimate deriders in this, they can choose to have this degenerates kid or abort it, not have sex with him or wear protection, but as soon as he leaves, its all his fault, no thanks

And please, dont expect single, childless black men to save these women either, its shown they've made consistent mistakes on a constant basis, it wont help, but make matters worse hooking up with them
 
See thats how your mind is fucked up. How the fuck am I perfect for being responsible and doing the right thing? I'm suppose to do that dummy?[/QUOTE]


No you are not a dummy...(as fas as I know). In a nutshell Black people need to step it up in general. We have a lost generation out there looking for guidance.
 
:lol: I let them off the hook because they won't amount to shit, that don't have to capacity to take responsibility for their actions.

Thats like me expecting the crack head down the street to someday become a road scholar and write books and give speeches and shit

Now I know you're just playin. You cannot be serious. The only thing that distinguishes us from other animals is our capacity for making choices/decisions.....now you wanna saddle women with all the responsibility and chalk up fucked up decision making by men to some kind of inherent lack of responsibility.

Wake up mayne!
 
See thats how your mind is fucked up. How the fuck am I perfect for being responsible and doing the right thing? I'm suppose to do that dummy?[/QUOTE]


No you are not a dummy...(as fas as I know). In a nutshell Black people need to step it up in general. We have a lost generation out there looking for guidance.

LIKE I SAID YOUR MIND IS FUCKED UP
 
LOL @ some of you ni&&as catching feeling. Haven't seen your seeds lately huh? I never understood how folks who are supposedly not the target get all emotional when someone speaks truth.

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Now I know you're just playin. You cannot be serious. The only thing that distinguishes us from other animals is our capacity for making choices/decisions.....now you wanna saddle women with all the responsibility and chalk up fucked up decision making by men to some kind of inherent lack of responsibility.

Wake up mayne!

Now you wake the fuck up! Thats the same bullshit logic women use when they try change men. I KNOW HE AIN'T ABOUT SHIT, BUT ONCE I HAVE HIS BABY HE WILL GET A JOB AND BECOME A GOOD FATHER.

Miss me with that bullshit logic, man.
 
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