So The Clinton's Are Down For Black Folk. Remember Lani Guinier?

[thoughtone]

Lani Guinier, the Ivy League trained, Professor of some of the best laws schools in the western world was nominated by Bill Clinton in 1993 for Assistant Attorney General. An onslaught of attacks by the right labeled her the “quota queen” a similar racial tactic occurring today with Barak Obama. Bill Clinton caved under the political pressure. Unlike George Bush who supported his extreme Supreme Court nominees Joseph Alito and John Roberts. The Clintons have a history, which is consistent.

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Remarks announcing withdrawal of the nomination of Lani Guinier and an exchange with reporters - Bill Clinton's speech, June 3, 1993 - Attorney General nominee - Transcript
June 3, 1993

The President. Good evening. It is with deep regret that I am announcing tonight the withdrawal of the nomination of Lani Guinier to be Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights.

Earlier this evening I met with Ms. Guinier to talk through the issues that prompted my decision. I told her that had I known all along the intense controversy this nomination would inspire I would not have asked her to undergo the ordeal, and I am sorry that she has suffered as much as she has.

At the time of the nomination I had not read her writings. In retrospect, I wish I had. Today, as a matter of fairness to her, I read some of them again in good detail. They clearly lend themselves to interpretations that do not represent the views that I expressed on civil rights during my campaign and views that I hold very dearly, even though there is much in them with which I agree. I have to tell you that had I read them before I nominated her, I would not have done so.

Now, I want to make it clear that that is not to say that I agree with all the attacks on her. She has been subject to a vicious series of willful distortions on many issues, including the quota issue. And that has made this decision all the more difficult.

The Lani Guinier I know is a person of high integrity, great intellect, strong character, and a superb civil rights record. That's why I nominated her. I agree with civil rights leaders and members of the Congressional Black Caucus that she is a wonderful lawyer. And I want all of you to know that if this nomination could be fought out on her character or her record as a civil rights lawyer, I would stay with it to the end, if we didn't get but one or two votes in the Senate.

 

[Legacyns]

Clinton's aren't down for black folx....
Clinton's aren't down for the Democratic party
Clinton's aren't down for America...

The Clinton's are down for the Clinton's...

Period, end of story.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Thought I was the only one to remember her and that whole fucked up situation.

 

[Mad Genius]

Clinton's aren't down for black folx....
Clinton's aren't down for the Democratic party
Clinton's aren't down for America...

The Clinton's are down for the Clinton's...

Period, end of story.

Phife and I couldn't agree more.

 

[thoughtone]

Thought I was the only one to remember her and that whole fucked up situation.

No, you do have a lot of youngsters on here with no interests outside of Hip Hop and celebrity gossip, but a few of us are well informed. Youngsters today could careless about history.

 

[ScarletHaze71]

Of Course...


Like a vegan at a barbecue
The only blacks they like are swinging hammers in a rock yard, bringing them their coffee in Harlem (or at home) or swinging at the end of a rope in rural Alabama somewhere.

 

[World B Free]

DON'T FORGET:

1. JOCELYN ELDERS
2. RON BROWN
3. SISTA SOULJAH

 

[Blunt]

Clinton NOMINATED her in the first place, which was GUTSY and forward-thinking. Unfortunately, she didn't stand a chance against the racist, sexist right-wing machine that was waging war on Clinton then. The same folks that ignorant BGOL members are now joining sides with against Hillary.

Stupid people.

 

[Kazoo]

awwwh shit I forgot about her

and Ron Brown

the Clintons do have a checkered history - thats why IF she gets the nomination she doesnt stand a chance against McCain

 

[World B Free]

THE SUSPICIOUS DEATH OF RON BROWN

[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/I1bpzsxk0Vw&hl=en[/FLASH]

 

[Blunt]

awwwh shit I forgot about her

and Ron Brown

the Clintons do have a checkered history - thats why IF she gets the nomination she doesnt stand a chance against McCain

"Checkered history??' Of giving high-level jobs to black folks??

 

[thoughtone]

DON'T FORGET:

1. JOCELYN ELDERS
2. RON BROWN
3. SISTA SOULJAH

Actually the Clintons were cool with Ron Brown and Jocelyn Elders. Ron Brown was DNC chairman and if he hadn't died in Croatia in a plan crash, maybe the Democratic Party might be a bit more viewable for Black folks now. Clinton did fuck Mike Espy after the republicans went on a witch hunt and ruined his carrier. Clinton again offer little support for him when the GOP tried to claim he was getting kick backs.

 

[Blunt]

Actually the Clintons were cool with Ron Brown and Jocelyn Elders. Ron Brown was DNC chairman and if he hadn't died in Croatia in a plan crash, maybe the Democratic Party might be a bit more viewable for Black folks now.

If he'd lived he might've been indicted for something or other. He had some shady business connections. Why isn't the Democratic Party "viewable?" They're the only ones who give a shit about black folks.

Clinton did fuck Mike Espy after the republicans went on a witch hunt and ruined his carrier. Clinton again offer little support for him when the GOP tried to claim he was getting kick backs.

Wasn't Espy eventually acquitted? Don't think Clinton could do much for him once he got indicted. (Obama has his own questionable connections with crooks.)

 

[Upgrade Dave]

DON'T FORGET:

1. JOCELYN ELDERS
2. RON BROWN
3. SISTA SOULJAH

I don't think they had anything to do with Ron Brown or his death, whether it was an accident or not.

But they definitely didn't back Elders and he used Sista Souljah to score points.

 

[DaleMabry]

Y'all just ignore that bitch ass faggot. Let him / her die slow.

 

[Built4Life]

Guinir wasn't backed because of her politics. She wrote that essay on proportional representation which basically throws the US representative democracy under the bus. Jocelyn Elders just wasn't a woman of her times. The truth is people are too hung up on sex in this country even though we are oversexually stimulated in this nation. Masturbation = a bad immoral thing, but our other practices are not.

 

[DaleMabry]

Guinir wasn't backed because of her politics. She wrote that essay on proportional representation which basically throws the US representative democracy under the bus. Jocelyn Elders just wasn't a woman of her times. The truth is people are too hung up on sex in this country even though we are oversexually stimulated in this nation. Masturbation = a bad immoral thing, but our other practices are not.

Thats nothing compared to the skeletons of various GOP nominees to similar positions. They rode hard for their choice, and Clinton and the Dems (AS ALWAYS) acted like a bunch of pussies when challenged and withdrew theirs.

The only balls I have ever seen the Dems show is when Gingrich threated to shut down Congress, they called his bluff, he did and the GOP lost in the next election cycle.

Other than that, they're pussies. Obama has more balls than all of em.

 

[thoughtone]

If he'd lived he might've been indicted for something or other. He had some shady business connections. Why isn't the Democratic Party "viewable?" They're the only ones who give a shit about black folks.



Wasn't Espy eventually acquitted? Don't think Clinton could do much for him once he got indicted. (Obama has his own questionable connections with crooks.)

To the Clinton’s credit, they were the most investigated administration in American history and if it were not for Bill Clinton’s 12th hour indiscretion with Monica, they republicans would have been left with egg on their faces. Ken Starr spent $60 million hunting under virtually every stone in the political world and found nothing of note, even 7 years later all there are is only innuendos and rumors. The republicans had almost every Clinton cabinet member under investigation, indicted some and convicted none. All of Clinton’s associates that were subpoena in congress showed up. No one defied the subpoenas. All of the documents that the republican controlled congress and senate requested were made available. Unlike the current Bush administration which has made almost no one or almost nothing available to the congress and senate people. And when they have made documents public, they have been so redacted, they are almost indiscernible. The republicans play hardball and so do the Clintons. That is the major reason why the republicans hate the Clintons. They beat them at their own game. Elliot Spitzer should have had as much balls. The Clintons let nothing stand in the way of their objective. That is the reason why I have a problem with them. They may help you and then again they may destroy you. For me today’s republicans are not my friends, but the Clinton may benefit you if what you want is on their agenda. The devil you know verses the devil you don’t.

 

[CT's Finest]

Clinton's aren't down for black folx....
Clinton's aren't down for the Democratic party
Clinton's aren't down for America...

The Clinton's are down for the Clinton's...

Period, end of story.

CO-SIGN!!!

 

[thoughtone]

Guinir wasn't backed because of her politics. She wrote that essay on proportional representation which basically throws the US representative democracy under the bus. Jocelyn Elders just wasn't a woman of her times. The truth is people are too hung up on sex in this country even though we are oversexually stimulated in this nation. Masturbation = a bad immoral thing, but our other practices are not.

That's just the point Bush stands behind his nominees with their 18th century political senses and the democrats cave to the slightest right wing campaign. Elliot Spitzer should not have resigned. Congressman David Vitter of Louisiana was on a madam’s prostitution list and he is still in congress. Republicans hold the democrats to high standards yet they don't practice what they preach.

 

[DaleMabry]

That's just the point Bush stands behind his nominees with their 18th century political senses and the democrats cave to the slightest right wing campaign. Elliot Spitzer should not have resigned. Congressman David Vitter of Louisiana was on a madam’s prostitution list and he is still in congress. Republicans hold the democrats to high standards yet they don't practice what they preach.

Yeah but where Spitzer fucked up was by getting elected on a "Crimebuster / Do-Gooder" campaign. He proclaimed himself More Moral Than Thou, prosecuted wall st. financial ethics, political ethics, and especially prostitution rings, then turned out to fuck with prostitution rings and used campaign money (finance ethics?) to do it. He was a bully that made many enemies, so there was no way he was getting out of this one.

 

[thoughtone]

Yeah but where Spitzer fucked up was by getting elected on a "Crimebuster / Do-Gooder" campaign. He proclaimed himself More Moral Than Thou, prosecuted wall st. financial ethics, political ethics, and especially prostitution rings, then turned out to fuck with prostitution rings and used campaign money (finance ethics?) to do it. He was a bully that made many enemies, so there was no way he was getting out of this one.

I agree. When you go after the heavyweights, you have to make sure your house is in order. But when you go after Wall Street and try and clean it up, which is inherently corrupt, you are going to make enemies. That doesn't diminish the fact that republicans like Newt Gingrich and Bob Livingston who led Bill Clinton's impeachment and at the same time had sexual affairs against their wives and had the moxy to claim Clinton was immoral. Only Livingston stepped down after Larry Flynt busted his ass. Gingrich is still on the high and mighty. Democrats need to stand up and grow a pair.

 

[DaleMabry]

^^^^ Hopefully Barry O. will show them how