KEMETIANS: What Made 'Em Different From Their Fellow Africans?

[AtomAnt]

...Mohammed stealing from jews is evident. the koran is supposedly divinely inspired but the number of mistakes and stories plagiarised from jewish folklore( which is false is amazing). The stories in the Koran like the story of Yahushuah who you chumps call ISA is actually a story from the jewish Midrash


Islam is a bogus religion I can prove it not by quoting from zionisy yehudi's but from quoting the koran and hadiths. It still amazes me that over a billion people follow that paedophile prophet Mohammed despite all the lies he told .

good topic of discussion nyeleman

arent arabs s'possed to be distant cousins to jews?!? as in the torah that they were the descendants of ishmael while the jews were those of israel?!? - ishmael and israel being brothers from same father but different mothers - both these guys' origin is back in ancient egypt again which means the jews and the arabs both stole from egypt - but is it even stealing if you're simply taking what belongs to you tho?!? - egypt is their motherland - thats where they all emigrated from - our western perspective sometimes interfere with our neutral point of view - the west is quick to point out that the east is doing something wrong when in fact the east and the west are doing the same thing - check this out

what am trying to say is that we are clear these religions - islam judaism n christianity - had their origins in the traditions and the tenets of the ancient egyptian religion - am not taking sides here - just trying to point out that all these guys have been doing the exact same shit all along - islam plagiarized the torah but merely copying wasnt enough for the religion of christianity - it stole the entire torah and called it the old testament!!! - thats why theres less errors in the bible - but check this out - the kaaba in mecca that muslims go on a pilgrimage to worship houses the capstone of the great pyramid - its all egypt all over again

christianity is just as bogus as islam really - they're all as bogus as one another and you're right - mohammed was a paedophile but once again paedophilia permeates every page of the torah and the bible but it requires advanced learning to see these things - why?!? - because it is the traditions and practices of the almighty egyptians - it was the custom of the pharaohs to take child brides and have conjugal relations with them - these guys were having unprotected sex with little under-aged girls and trying to get them pregnant!!!

now look - Im absolutely certain they had their own reasons for doing this - I mean these guys knew everything about everything right?!? - they could read the stars - build pyramids with precision - etc - wisdom and knowledge was their family business - they were all born with that silver spoon in their mouth (which then turns into gold ) - but the moment you realize the social standing of the characters of all these holy books - the moment you trace 'em all back to egypt that the holy books were simply the books of the pharaohs themselves then their game's up - you've had 'em!

next time you read your bible and see a lowly shepherd getting married to his beautiful new bride and she was at first barren so she started to pray to God then divine intervention came from God and she was later able to rear children then as a new initiate of the advanced learners you automatically now recognize the practice of paedophilia among not only the founders of islam but also those of judaism and christianity too

they were ALL paedophiles because their ancestors the pharaohs said it was tradition and all they had to do was FOLLOW IT!!!

all them mother-fuckers were ALL in it together all along - doing the same shit.......

 

[AtomAnt]

I need the password for this movie, I used the link that was supposed to give me the password but I'm unable to see it.

SmokeDaCane - I was about to watch the video too only to find that there was a winrar within a winrar with a different password - am on the lookout for new links now and will up 'em soon

 

[AtomAnt]

This thread is so on fire, I had to dance to some shit like Chicken Noodle Soup! Keep it Blazing!

kidzbop...

 

[AtomAnt]

the main topic has been added to with even fresher ways of looking into things

Theres quite a few ancient egypt slash religion threads on this porn board that makes it appear as if peoples are desparately looking for answers but seemingly not knowing where to begin - not asking the right questions - this thread is an attempt to address that - fam lets discuss some fundamental questions on egypt


check this out -

Ancient Egyptian science medicine mathematics and astronomy were all of an exponentially higher order of refinement and sofistication than modern scholars will acknowledge

The entire Ancient Egyptian civilization was based on a complete and precise understanding of the Universal Laws - All aspects of the Ancient Egyptian knowledge - the sum of all the knowledge - seemed to have been (read: were) complete at the very beginning

The scientific artistic architechtural and heiroglyphics systems all show virtually NO SIGN of a period of development (none whatsoever - imagine that!)- indeed many of the sofistication of the earlier dynasties appeared to have been (once again read: were) carried over from pre-dynastic eras - they were never surpassed or even equalled later on

~ schwaller de lubicz

How did the "egyptians" become so knowledgeable?!?

AFRICA is a vast continent - how was it that it was the land of egypt - that looks like its about to fall off of the continent - that held the sum of all knowledge?!?

Just how did the ancient "egyptians" know so much?!?

Just what was the true level of understanding and sofistication of the "egyptians"?!?

Just how did they know so much - head and shoulders above the the rest of their fellow africans?!?

Was it guesswork?!?

Was it by experimentation?!?

Was it a long process of deduction?!?

How?!? - What was it?!?

If the continent of Africa was full of black peoples - mostly tribal communities and societies and these black families were going about their varied but similar traditions and cultures then why was it only egypt that had this imposing highly advanced highly civilized traditions?!?

lets be honest these facts just dont add up - it doesnt make any sense that one little portion of the entire continent would be head and shoulders above the rest in advancement when everyone was supposed to be one and the same


In other words what was the origin of the civilization of egypt that sets her right apart from its fellow african states?

What was the source of her civilization that sets her head and shoulders (and waist even) apart from her fellow africans?

Exactly what made that country absolutely unique in the ancient world of the africans?


From the other perspective the assertion that western civilization has its origins in africa is tenable but only as long as the perpetrators do not then base eeeverything on egypt alone... the focus is just too much on egypt.... too much - egypt isnt africa and africa isnt egypt - egypt isnt all there is to africa and theres a whole lot more to africa than egypt alone

Lets be honest and ask ourselves the following - when and from where sprang that extremely advanced knowledge?!? - I mean there doesnt even seem to be any evidence of its accomplishments preceeding it - it simply appeared to literally spring into existence from thin fresh air - from nowhere

These people were suddenly evolved - their consciousness was suddenly infused with a rare wisdom - lets be honest - who were these people in reality?!? - why did they receive favor in the eyes of God but not their fellow indidenous native africans ?!? - out of all the vastness of the african continent why did God bless the egybtians and only them with such wisdom such knowledge such understanding?!? - why did God forsake the remainnning african states/countries?!? - why did God abandon them?!? - were they not worthy of the same knowledge and advancement as the egyptians?!?


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[harlem1nyc]

all very true....however, stop ignoring the truism that the current and past powers have manipulated history. It is not likely that will allow truth to be found. Fragments will be all that we find!!

 

[smokedacane]

SmokeDaCane - I was about to watch the video too only to find that there was a winrar within a winrar with a different password - am on the lookout for new links now and will up 'em soon

alright thanks, I was ready to watch it too

 

[nittie]

all very true....however, stop ignoring the truism that the current and past powers have manipulated history. It is not likely that will allow truth to be found. Fragments will be all that we find!!

We should also examine the pyramid societies and the dogmas they invented. As the pyramids spread across the globe the societies became more brutal and oppressive. They went from slaves being treated with dignity in Africa to America lynching and castrating them. They started worshipping satan, America even has a holiday for him. When I look at the world today I can't help thinking are we seeing a plan coming together

 

[shanebp1978]

alright thanks, I was ready to watch it too

If you look close at the Rar files, it's called Atlantis Uncovered.


It's EXCELLENT, but you guys might not appreciate it the way I did.




Atlantis Uncovered Part 1

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/kTEOM_ZzKKk&hl=en[/flash]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kTEOM_ZzKKk

You can find all the other parts after finding the first.

 

[AtomAnt]

If you look close at the Rar files, it's called Atlantis Uncovered.
It's EXCELLENT, but you guys might not appreciate it the way I did.
Atlantis Uncovered Part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kTEOM_ZzKKk

You can find all the other parts after finding the first.

props on the assist ShaneBP1978 - am grabbing 'em to the iTouch for a quick watch on the move now - I'd be back with a review after

heres a quick easy to use free youtube to iPod ---->>> Converter I use

 

[L.D.A]

Everybody should read this book call Fossilized Customs: The Pagan orgins of Popular Customs by Lew White.

The book is a crazy man and it goes into everything that goes on in the world.

 

[humble]

The doc on Atlantis was interesting. Is it possible that if there were survivors from the destruction of Atlantis, that these people dispersed throughout an uninhabited world with their understanding of their past civilization and evolved differently or decided to become innovative to create different pyramids, writing systems and so forth throughout the world? Hence, the different pyramids from the Egyptians to the Mayans.

 

[mk23666]

Ancient Egyptian science medicine mathematics and astronomy were all of an exponentially higher order of refinement and sofistication than modern scholars will acknowledge

The entire Ancient Egyptian civilization was based on a complete and precise understanding of the Universal Laws - All aspects of the Ancient Egyptian knowledge - the sum of all the knowledge - seemed to have been (read: were) complete at the very beginning

The scientific artistic architechtural and heiroglyphics systems all show virtually NO SIGN of a period of development (none whatsoever - imagine that!)- indeed many of the sofistication of the earlier dynasties appeared to have been (once again read: were) carried over from pre-dynastic eras - they were never surpassed or even equalled later on

~ schwaller de lubicz

How did the "egyptians" become so knowledgeable?!?

AFRICA is a vast continent - how was it that it was the land of egypt - that looks like its about to fall off of the continent - that held the sum of all knowledge?!?

Just how did the ancient "egyptians" know so much?!?

Just what was the true level of understanding and sofistication of the "egyptians"?!?

Just how did they know so much - head and shoulders above the the rest of their fellow africans?!?

Was it guesswork?!?

Was it by experimentation?!?

Was it a long process of deduction?!?

How?!? - What was it?!?

If the continent of Africa was full of black peoples - mostly tribal communities and societies and these black families were going about their varied but similar traditions and cultures then why was it only egypt that had this imposing highly advanced highly civilized traditions?!?

lets be honest these facts just dont add up - it doesnt make any sense that one little portion of the entire continent would be head and shoulders above the rest in advancement when everyone was supposed to be one and the same


In other words what was the origin of the civilization of egypt that sets her right apart from its fellow african states?

What was the source of her civilization that sets her head and shoulders (and waist even) apart from her fellow africans?

Exactly what made that country absolutely unique in the ancient world of the africans?


From the other perspective the assertion that western civilization has its origins in africa is tenable but only as long as the perpetrators do not then base eeeverything on egypt alone... the focus is just too much on egypt.... too much - egypt isnt africa and africa isnt egypt - egypt isnt all there is to africa and theres a whole lot more to africa than egypt alone

Lets be honest and ask ourselves the following - when and from where sprang that extremely advanced knowledge?!? - I mean there doesnt even seem to be any evidence of its accomplishments preceeding it - it simply appeared to literally spring into existence from thin fresh air - from nowhere

These people were suddenly evolved - their consciousness was suddenly infused with a rare wisdom - lets be honest - who were these people in reality?!? - why did they receive favor in the eyes of God but not their fellow indidenous native africans ?!? - out of all the vastness of the african continent why did God bless the egybtians and only them with such wisdom such knowledge such understanding?!? - why did God forsake the remainnning african states/countries?!? - why did God abandon them?!? - were they not worthy of the same knowledge and advancement as the egyptians?!?


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There are maybe two or three ways to look at all of those questions as I see it.

1 During (maybe even before) the the last Ice Age there was a worldwide civilization not unlike our's today. Even back then there were 1st/2nd/3rd world civilizations.

Since most of the world would have been trapped under ice and snow my guess would be that the population numbers would have numbered in the "tens of millions" instead of the "billions" of today.

For the most part the developed areas left the undeveloped areas and people native because of limited resources available, predjudices or from unconcern. (kinda like we do in various places even today)

During the end of that Ice Age there would have been a global catastrophe from the melting of all that ice and that worldwide civilization would have been devastated. Nearly wiped out, the survivors had to migrate from their destroyed civilized areas and into the uncivilized areas of the natives.

This migration could explain the myths of the Gods coming from the east or out of the skies/heavens. With limited surviving tech from their "Golden Age" the survivors took advantage of the natives and made themselves GODS. (Which of course as we know is only a title and the original definition of the word GOD is lost ...)

Teaching the natives so they could communicate with each other would come in hand with the GODS' plans to resurrect their previous civilization. The need to study the sky comes from the changes caused from the end of the Ice Age. Weather/Seasons/Time may have changed and the need to understand and control the changes would be key.

Megalithic buildings might have been as a precaution. The larger the stones used the better the building would be to survive another future catastrophe. But something went wrong with their plan, and the GODS began to war with each other over control of the resources in neighboring/faraway lands ... and also the minds of the people. Eventually the visible GODS were replaced with images and symbols. (Religions) This suggests that either the GODS faded into the surrounding populace as the populace got smarter or the GODS killed themselves off. Maybe they hid themselves away as mankind grew in number by leaving the planet all together.

2B continued ... maybe.

 

[shanebp1978]

The doc on Atlantis was interesting. Is it possible that if there were survivors from the destruction of Atlantis, that these people dispersed throughout an uninhabited world with their understanding of their past civilization and evolved differently or decided to become innovative to create different pyramids, writing systems and so forth throughout the world? Hence, the different pyramids from the Egyptians to the Mayans.

Maybe, but did you watch the Doc? The majority of it is spent dispelling the myth of Atlantis.

The most interesting thing about Atlantis, is the people's whom supposedly held record of it, NEVER themselves mentioned of it, do they?

A Greek makes the oldest historical record of Atlantis, that he supposedly got from his cousin Critias, who heard it from his great-grandfather Dropides, who got it from Solon of the seven sages, who SUPPOSEDLY heard it from Egyptian scribes in Sais.

When the fact is, Plato may have been making a big fat philosophical point?

But if " some " people, can put the beginnings of civilization as far away from the truth as they can!


So what are the Egyptian, cataclysm stories? Besides the, " The destruction of mankind story " ?



The Destruction of Mankind

http://www.rostau.org.uk/DestructionOfMankind/

This texts tells the story of Re's plan to destroy the human race because he came to hear of mankind's plots against him. After an initial spate of destruction by the Eye of Re, the sun god relented and came up with a plan to save the remainder of mankind.

In any event, the word Atlantis, comes from ATLAS, which means the world, so . . . why it became an island!??

 

[RadioRaheem]

good topic of discussion nyeleman

what am trying to say is that we are clear these religions - islam judaism n christianity - had their origins in the traditions and the tenets of the ancient egyptian religion - am not taking sides here - just trying to point out that all these guys have been doing the exact same shit all along - islam plagiarized the torah but merely copying wasnt enough for the religion of christianity - it stole the entire torah and called it the old testament!!! - thats why theres less errors in the bible - but check this out - the kaaba in mecca that muslims go on a pilgrimage to worship houses the capstone of the great pyramid - its all egypt all over again

To add on, Islam is based off Judaism and the religion of the indigenous Arabs. The indigenous Arabs at one point in time practiced the same spiritual practice that virtually all of Africa practiced (including the ancient Egyptians). So for instance, originally, the Kaaba in Makkah was for the spiritual practice of the indigenous Arabs. But that came to an end with Muhammed's rise to power.

 

[RadioRaheem]

How did the "egyptians" become so knowledgeable?!?

AFRICA is a vast continent - how was it that it was the land of egypt - that looks like its about to fall off of the continent - that held the sum of all knowledge?!? Just how did the ancient "egyptians" know so much?!? Just what was the true level of understanding and sofistication of the "egyptians"?!? Just how did they know so much - head and shoulders above the the rest of their fellow africans?!?

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The Egyptians became so knowledgeable because over time we as humans gain more knowledge as long as we keep history by our side and pass it to future generations. Much of their knowledge came from their spiritual practice, which was practiced throughout Africa. In fact, the very spiritual practice which was a major source of their knowledge came from WEST AFRICA. It is an error to think that the Egyptians were head and shoulders above the rest of their fellow Africans. This is not correct thinking.

If you study the history and culture of the indigenous Africans, you will realize that the ancient Egyptians were not steps ahead of the other indigenous Africans. The indigenous Africans are the most knowledgeable human beings on this planet. Unfortunately, modern society looks down upon them and views them as backwards, not realizing they have the most extensive knowledge and history.

 

[mk23666]

The Egyptians became so knowledgeable because over time we as humans gain more knowledge as long as we keep history by our side and pass it to future generations. Much of their knowledge came from their spiritual practice, which was practiced throughout Africa. In fact, the very spiritual practice which was a major source of their knowledge came from WEST AFRICA. It is an error to think that the Egyptians were head and shoulders above the rest of their fellow Africans. This is not correct thinking.

If you study the history and culture of the indigenous Africans, you will realize that the ancient Egyptians were not steps ahead of the other indigenous Africans. The indigenous Africans are the most knowledgeable human beings on this planet. Unfortunately, modern society looks down upon them and views them as backwards, not realizing they have the most extensive knowledge and history.

Egyptians = Megalithic buildings of stone. Fired clay brick buildings.

Almost the rest of Africa = Mud/stick/animal skin huts.

Egypt = Two distinct writing types. Wealth of records/literature/artwork preserved.

Almost the rest of Africa = Very little writing/artwork.

Egypt = domestication of animals for farming/food and as beasts of burden. Use of chariots/boats/ships.

Almost the rest of Africa = Rudimentary domestication of animals for food/farming. Use of canoes/rafts.

Egypt might have started out the same as the rest of Africa but quickly it became and stayed very different from their brethren.

 

[smokedacane]

Egyptians = Megalithic buildings of stone. Fired clay brick buildings.

Almost the rest of Africa = Mud/stick/animal skin huts.

Egypt = Two distinct writing types. Wealth of records/literature/artwork preserved.

Almost the rest of Africa = Very little writing/artwork.

Egypt = domestication of animals for farming/food and as beasts of burden. Use of chariots/boats/ships.

Almost the rest of Africa = Rudimentary domestication of animals for food/farming. Use of canoes/rafts.

Egypt might have started out the same as the rest of Africa but quickly it became and stayed very different from their brethren.

And where exactly does the Nubian empire fit into any of this????


They were the exception as well. It is a shame no one knows how to decipher their text.

 

[mk23666]

And where exactly does the Nubian empire fit into any of this????


They were the exception as well. It is a shame no one knows how to decipher their text.

The ALMOST part covers them.

 

[mk23666]

When the fact is, Plato may have been making a big fat philosophical point?


In any event, the word Atlantis, comes from ATLAS, which means the world, so . . . why it became an island!??

I think you kinda answered your own query with the sentance above your question.

In the grand scope of things a solitary civilization being destroyed in one night could be considered an island unto itself ... especially when written by a poet/story teller known for using symbolism and allegory.

 

[humble]

Yeah that's the same way I understood Atlantis to be ^^^.
That Atlantis was the place where civilzation was created and was the only inhabited place on Earth, leaving the rest of Earth unexplored by the Atlanteans until its destruction.

After Atlantis' destruction, those who survived spread to different areas of the world and used their knowledge from Atlantis to start anew in whatever arear of the world that they traveled to. Thus, different forms of Pyramids in Egypt and Maya, and different writings systems and so forth. Once the survivors settled in new lands they developed innovative ways of doing things that differed from when they lived in Atlantis.

 

[AtomAnt]

There are maybe two or three ways to look at all of those questions as I see it.

1 During (maybe even before) the the last Ice Age there was a worldwide civilization not unlike our's today. Even back then there were 1st/2nd/3rd world civilizations.

Since most of the world would have been trapped under ice and snow my guess would be that the population numbers would have numbered in the "tens of millions" instead of the "billions" of today.

For the most part the developed areas left the undeveloped areas and people native because of limited resources available, predjudices or from unconcern. (kinda like we do in various places even today)

During the end of that Ice Age there would have been a global catastrophe from the melting of all that ice and that worldwide civilization would have been devastated. Nearly wiped out, the survivors had to migrate from their destroyed civilized areas and into the uncivilized areas of the natives.

This migration could explain the myths of the Gods coming from the east or out of the skies/heavens. With limited surviving tech from their "Golden Age" the survivors took advantage of the natives and made themselves GODS. (Which of course as we know is only a title and the original definition of the word GOD is lost ...)

Teaching the natives so they could communicate with each other would come in hand with the GODS' plans to resurrect their previous civilization. The need to study the sky comes from the changes caused from the end of the Ice Age. Weather/Seasons/Time may have changed and the need to understand and control the changes would be key.

Megalithic buildings might have been as a precaution. The larger the stones used the better the building would be to survive another future catastrophe. But something went wrong with their plan, and the GODS began to war with each other over control of the resources in neighboring/faraway lands ... and also the minds of the people. Eventually the visible GODS were replaced with images and symbols. (Religions) This suggests that either the GODS faded into the surrounding populace as the populace got smarter or the GODS killed themselves off. Maybe they hid themselves away as mankind grew in number by leaving the planet all together.

2B continued ... maybe.

I like it - I like it a lot - because it ties in real nicely with bits of my gathering of late which presents ancient annals and records of king lists - all factual - then theorizes an antediluvian civilization as ShaneBP1978's that built all the megaliths but was interfered with by the ice-melt that you mention

now this is the best part - its all factual - those survivors of the flood that had been on the "roofs of the world" the high mountains - the himalayas and the caucausus mountain ranges - all in the area we call the middle and near-east today - they all came down firstly settle in the area called mesopotamia - they were generally termed the sumerians or the aryans - it was them who then spread into all the corners of the world to civilize the rest of the planet basically - they had a long list of kings dating back to before the ice-melt - it was a large empire as far back as the indus valley and into europe

as inconvenient and as uncomfortable as this is for me to find out and font it turned out that it was these guys who were essentially responsible for the "african" civilization of egypt - the land of egypt was one of there main colonies as well as the indus vally in india - the sumerian empire was vast - they had direct land access route into egypt as well via israel

what the source was implying is that the megaliths had been built before the ice-melting biblical flood which only interfered with their development and once the tide receeded they then came down from the mountains to continue/restart - all the world's religions are from them/there too

it gets more interesting because I think this is also one of the main reasons why the troops are still in iraq to this day - that whole are was where mesopotamia was - the birth-place of the postdilluvian civilization

theres speculation/conjecture that something might have happened to them up there to more interfere with their genetic make-up/DNA

heres another thing - factual - THERE WERE ANCIENT EGYPTIAN PRE-DYNASTIC PHARAOHS!!!!!
2b cont'd..............

 

[mk23666]

Well, I'm open to the idea but I don't subscribe to it totally. There are holes in that theory I haven't been able to plug.

 

[Bigbodied]

great thread, much appreciated. thanks.

 

[humble]

respect

 

[nahsonchill]

In any event, the word Atlantis, comes from ATLAS, which means the world, so . . . why it became an island!??

I don't think you understand the word.

Atlantis (in Greek, Ἀτλαντὶς νῆσος, "island of Atlas") is the name of a legendary island first mentioned in Plato's dialogues Timaeus and Critias.[1]

Plato's dialogues Timaeus and Critias, written in 360 BC, contain the earliest known references to Atlantis.

According to Plato, the first king of Atlantis was also named Atlas, but that Atlas was a mortal son of Poseidon.

The etymology of the name Atlas is uncertain and still debated. Some modern linguists derive it and its Greek root from the Proto-Indo-European root *tel, 'to uphold, support'

Atlas' best-known cultural association is in cartography... Since the middle of the sixteenth century, any collection of cartographic maps has come to be called an atlas.

Atlas was just a name when Atlantis being written about.

Please people, make it clear where you get your information. I don't mean to single out or insult this poster, but this type of shit can be avoided. (Un)Educated guesses are a bad look, and "I read a while back," "I saw a documentary," and "I saw in some book" hold about as much weight as "my brother's best friend's ex-girlfriend told me..." Give titles, authors, websites, whatever you can. It shows you're not just making some shit up off the top of your head. Before bashing Wikipedia; the parts i quoted had citations, and I personally believe that any citation is better than none.

 

[shanebp1978]

I don't think you understand the word.



Atlas was just a name when Atlantis being written about.

Please people, make it clear where you get your information. I don't mean to single out or insult this poster, but this type of shit can be avoided. (Un)Educated guesses are a bad look, and "I read a while back," "I saw a documentary," and "I saw in some book" hold about as much weight as "my brother's best friend's ex-girlfriend told me..." Give titles, authors, websites, whatever you can. It shows you're not just making some shit up off the top of your head. Before bashing Wikipedia; the parts i quoted had citations, and I personally believe that any citation is better than none.

However you like it man. You like it, I love it.

Mythological Atlas bore the world. He gave his name to Atlantis.

Gerardus Mercator, main work, a three volume world atlas, was published in several editions from 1585 on and beyond his death in 1594.

Obviously describing the world in a globe, in reference of how they referenced the celestial, and terrestrial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerardus_Mercator
http://www.artelino.com/articles/gerardus_mercator.asp



Back on where the name, come from . . .

But Atlas is above all, in Plato, the one who gives his name to Atlantis, the mythical island Critias opposes to Athens in the tale he develops in the dialogue that bears his name (see Critias, 114a, where Atlas is presented as Poseidon's first born son and the first king of Atlantis, giving it and the surrounding Atlantic Ocean his name).

http://plato-dialogues.org/tools/char/atlas.htm


Atlas is also the father of Atlantis, who has given name to the Atlantic Ocean and the myth about the lost city Atlantis where he supposedly has been king.

The atlas folio, a collection of maps, is supposedly named after him.

http://library.thinkquest.org/26264/inhabitants/gods/titans/other/site001.htm

Perhaps if Plato thought of Atlas as holding up the world, it's not to hard for one see him using it to describe the world in the form of Atlantis, as an allegory to society. I guess we'll never know.

 

[nahsonchill]

However you like it man. You like it, I love it.

Mythological Atlas bore the world. He gave his name to Atlantis.

Gerardus Mercator, main work, a three volume world atlas, was published in several editions from 1585 on and beyond his death in 1594.

Obviously describing the world in a globe, in reference of how they referenced the celestial, and terrestrial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerardus_Mercator
http://www.artelino.com/articles/gerardus_mercator.asp

Back on where the name, come from . . .

But Atlas is above all, in Plato, the one who gives his name to Atlantis, the mythical island Critias opposes to Athens in the tale he develops in the dialogue that bears his name (see Critias, 114a, where Atlas is presented as Poseidon's first born son and the first king of Atlantis, giving it and the surrounding Atlantic Ocean his name).

http://plato-dialogues.org/tools/char/atlas.htm


Atlas is also the father of Atlantis, who has given name to the Atlantic Ocean and the myth about the lost city Atlantis where he supposedly has been king.

The atlas folio, a collection of maps, is supposedly named after him.

http://library.thinkquest.org/26264/inhabitants/gods/titans/other/site001.htm

Perhaps if Plato thought of Atlas as holding up the world, it's not to hard for one see him using it to describe the world in the form of Atlantis, as an allegory to society. I guess we'll never know.

It's not "how I like it," it's how it is. "Atlantis" means "the island of Atlas." Atlas being the "father" of the island. You're searching for a deeper meaning that isn't there. You're ascribing a 16th century meaning of "atlas" to a work that was written in 360 BC - it doesn't work like that.


edit: I didn't mean to derail the thread - the main point of my first post was the lack of citations.

 

[LANQS]

I didn't go through all the pages, but just a little note.

The Olmecs came from Nuwba in Central Africa and they migrated to America in which they named in their Cushite language, 'Utla', which means, "vacate." When the Olmecs discovered that there was actually a North Utla and a South Utla, the word 'Utla' became plural which became 'Atlan', which is where the word 'Atlantis' came from. The Olmecs were of a tribe in Africa called 'Dogon' in Mali. When the Dogons migrated to America they also imported the rubber tree which is only indigenous to Africa. The Dogons used the sap from the tree to make shoes, coats, capes, and they were the first to introduce the soles on shoes to the New World. The name 'Olmec' means "Rubber People." The rubber was also used to make large balls for Olmeccan ball game ceremonies, which was played in large stone arenas. When Christopher Columbus arrived in the west he states that he saw the natives kicking around a large ball that was made from a type of Acacia. Columbus took some of these trees and balls back to Spain with him. Today, soccer is the favorite national sport in Spain! These Olmecs set up empires and cities that pre-dates even the Inca, Aztec, and Mayans. The Olmecs were not Siberians. The Olmecs were dark skinned, big lips and wide nosed Africans just as they are portrayed in the stone heads.

Remember that The Olmec Civilization parallels the Dynastic period of Khemet.

Atlantis,Amexem,America, Same damn place!!

About the Bible, Jews and all that stuff. The letter J was the last letter to be added to the English Alphabet between the year 1600-1615. King James lived in the 1500's. Take any History with Names that start with the letter J before the 1600's with a grain of salt.

TELL YOUR OWN HISTORY AND STOP LETTING OTHER PEOPLE TELL IT FOR YOU!!!

Olmec Head.

 

[AtomAnt]

AtomAnt, so why does Menes look like this?????

Menes was the first Pharaoh of
Egypt, and the founding Pharaoh of

the 1st Dynasty.
The most important political event in ancient Egyptian history was the unification of the

two lands by Menes. With the emergence of a strong, centralized

government under a

god-Pharaoh, the country's nascent

economic and political institutions became subject to royal authority. The central

government, either directly

or through major officials, became the employer of soldiers, retainers, bureaucrats, and

artisans whose goods and services benefited the upper classes and the state

gods.
Ancient Egypt's most predominant form of civilization began with his crowning, and did

not end permanently until the beginning of the Roman era, which started with Augustus

Caesar.
Menes founded the city of Memphis

, and chose as its location an island in the

Nile, so that it would be easy to

defend.
He was also the founder of Crocodopolis.
During his time, the Egyptian army performed raids against

Nubia in the south and expanded his

sphere of influence as far as the First Cataract.
His death is a mystery, for, according to legend he was attacked by wild dogs and

Nile crocodiles in Fayum . Menes'

tomb resides at Saqqara, the famed necropolis of

Memphis. He died at the age of

Sixty Three.

WHOA! WHOA!! WHOA!!!

KAYANATION!!!! EEWWLL MK23666 SMOKEDACANE DESHAUN MICHAELS ET AL

THE TRUTH IS OUT!!!!!!!!!!

Kayanation am telling it like it is - your long lost friend MENES turned out to be the worst thing that could've ever happened to africa in the history of the indidenous black african natives!!!

MENES WAS A WAYWARD SON OF A MIGHTY EMPEROR OF SUMER IN MESOPOTAMIA!!!! - MENES was a prince who revolted and raised a campaign against his father taking over 60000 troops with him from sumer - MENES SEIZED EGYPT FROM HIM WHILE HIS FATHER WAS STILL ON THE THRONE OF WORLD KING!!!! - EGYPT WAS ONLY ONE OF THE MAJOR COLONIES OF THE SUMERIAN EMPIRE!!!
MENES WAS A GREEDY YOUNG MAN WHO TOOK EGYPT BECAUSE OF THE GOLD OF NUBIA!!!
WHOA!!!!!! THE NUBIAN GOLD!!!!! WHOA!!!!!


to be contd with more facts about who menes was in reality!!!!

 

[mk23666]

I'm sure Kaya was talking about Menes looking Black.

He and others might be worried that you were taking Blacks out of the ancient Egyptian accomplishments ... but I know that aint true.

It's still is an interesting find Atom, keep the info coming.

 

[AtomAnt]

Fam
Like a lot of people here I had always wondered why nothing seemed to make any sense - how could one ordinary man suddenly make an empire?!? - it was all like reading the bible all over again with nomadic lowly shepherds invading conquering and looting major cities with massive fortifications - the facts simply didnt add up - I was later to find out that those lowly shepherds were the shepherd kings pharaohs of egypt - eh?!? I received my order from amazon and I read it all that day - only some 300 pages

The Antecedents of Menes​

Historians & Egyptologists are quick to praise the spledor and grandeur of the Egyptians but are at pains to tell the truth because of where it might lead - people would start asking questions - that the egyptian empire lasted that long because it existed as a parasite on its host - the black native africans - for natural resources - manpower - and for GOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDD!


MENES was born into a royal family of a long line of illustrious and mighty kings and world emperors of thousands of years all from Sumeria (Iraq!) - a family of power-hungry men who were deadly serious about continuous expansion of their empire - invading more and more countries - conquering more nations and introducing their ideas of civilization to them


Egypt was only one portion of their vast empire - the rest included persia - assyria - mediterranean - indus valley etc - this implies that his father grand-father and great grand-father were all immediate PREDYNASTIC RULERS OF EGYPT - PREDYNASTIC PHARAOHS OF EGYPT!!! - egypty was still only one aspect of a much larger SUMERIAN EMPIRE - these people had much bigger plans than egypt alone

 

[AtomAnt]

MENES THE MENACE!!!!!!!!!​

MENES WAS A WAYWARD GREEDY YOUNG MAN - A PRINCE - who revolted against his father and seized egypt from him while his father was still on the throne in Sumeria - menes himself was governor of egypt at the time - he then learned of the natural resources of the black native africans -

KAYANATION was quick to mention that menes united the two lands of egypt but in reality he was MENES WAS A MENACE TO THE BLACK NATIVE INDIGENOUS AFRICANS BECAUSE ALL HE WAS DOING WAS MORE CONQUERING AND MORE INVADING OF NATIONS FOR EXPANSION OF THE EMPIRE THAT HIS FAMILY HAD BEEN OBSESSED WITH FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS - he then stayed put in egypt

when his father the king died menes became the ruler of not only egypt but became king of THE ENTIRE SUMERIAN EMPIRE!!! - the records of the king lists and the chronicles of the kings in all the separate areas of the empire show this - THE KING LISTS ALL MENTION THE SAME NAMES OF RULERS AT THE SAME DATES!!!!

 

[AtomAnt]

more later...

 

[LANQS]

MENES THE MENACE!!!!!!!!!​

MENES WAS A WAYWARD GREEDY YOUNG MAN - A PRINCE - who revolted against his father and seized egypt from him while his father was still on the throne in Sumeria - menes himself was governor of egypt at the time - he then learned of the natural resources of the black native africans -

KAYANATION was quick to mention that menes united the two lands of egypt but in reality he was MENES WAS A MENACE TO THE BLACK NATIVE INDIGENOUS AFRICANS BECAUSE ALL HE WAS DOING WAS MORE CONQUERING AND MORE INVADING OF NATIONS FOR EXPANSION OF THE EMPIRE THAT HIS FAMILY HAD BEEN OBSESSED WITH FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS - he then stayed put in egypt

when his father the king died menes became the ruler of not only egypt but became king of THE ENTIRE SUMERIAN EMPIRE!!! - the records of the king lists and the chronicles of the kings in all the separate areas of the empire show this - THE KING LISTS ALL MENTION THE SAME NAMES OF RULERS AT THE SAME DATES!!!!

ARE YOU FREAKIN SERIOUS WITH THIS BULLSHIT??? OMG!!!

This is what Narmer,Aha,or Menes did to Sumerians.

 

[AtomAnt]

cont'd...

EGYPT WAS A CROSS-ROADS BETWEEN AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE-EAST IN SUMER
MENES started the first dynasty in egypt which lasted for some 160 years but EGYPT WAS STILL UNDER THE RULERSHIP OF THE VAST SUMERIAN EMPIRE!!! IT was the 2nd dynasty that broke completely away as an independent egyptian empire from sumer BECAUSE THE EGYPTIANS HAD REALIZED THAT AFRICA WAS A VERY RICH CONTINENT WHICH THEY COULD SUCK DRY!!!!

THE EGYPTIANS SYSTEMATICALLY RAPED AFRICA FOR EVERY DAMNED THING!!! THE EGYPTIANS MILKED HER DRY - EVERY LAST DROP!!! - EVERY LAST OUNCE OF GOLD - THEY STOLE IT ALL FROM THE BLACK NATIVE AFRICANS (our real ancestors) - EGYPT WAS MORE THAN A THORN ON THE SIDE OF THE BLACK AFRICAN NATIVES - EGYPT WAS A PARASITE THAT THRIVED ON ITS HOST FOR MILLENIA - THE EGYPTIANS WERE THE FIRST TO TAKE THE BLACK NATIVE AFRICANS AS SLAVES!!!! - EGYPT TOOK EVERYTHING

Admittedly the egyptians also raised military campaigns against other countries as the sumerian empire crumbled into separate states like persia syria etc but IT WAS THE BLACK NATIVE AFRICANS THAT SUFFERED THE MOST IN THE HANDS OF THE EGYPTIANS

THE CHRONICLES - THE KING-LISTS - ALL THE FAMILY RECORDS HAVE ALL BEEN PRESERVED - THEY ALSO SHOW THAT THE ORIGINAL HIEROGLYPHS DURING THE TIME OF MENES WERE DISTINCT FROM THE LATER ONES WHICH EGYPTOLOGISTS WERE DECODING

THE LAND OF EGYPT ITSELF WAS A DESERT - THERE WAS NOTHING THERE - NOTHING AT ALL - ONLY THE NILE THAT ROSE FOR 3 MONTHS EVERY YEAR - ALL THE GOLD THAT WERE FOUND IN ALL THE PHARAOHS TOMBS WERE ALL STOLEN LOOTED FROM NUBIA - THE EGYPTIANS NEVER GAVE ANYTHING BACK IN RETURN!!!!




one other thing - all the long lists of begats from jesus to adam in the new testament are yet more king-list

more later............