Has Obama's overwhelming black support created a racial backlash?

[geechiedan]

Obama is dominating the black voter so much so that hillary is all but signed off on trying to drum up support among black voters at this point. BUT she's gaining more support among white voters in larger states.

Among latinos Obama doesn't do as well and its speculated that the black voting block may be the reason:

http://cbs11tv.com/politics/obama.hispanic.vote.2.665432.html

In an interview with Tracy Rowlett, noted Latino community activist Adelfa Callejo told CBS 11 that Hispanics would not support a Black candidate in the Texas primary.

"Obama has the problem that he happens to be Black," said Callejo when asked if it was smart for Senator Barack Obama to reach out to Latino voters.

"When Blacks had the numbers, they didn't do anything to support us," said Callejo. "They always used our numbers to fulfill their goals and objectives, but they never really supported us, and there's a lot of hard feelings about that. I don't think we're going to get over it anytime soon."

Its a sure bet that in PA the voting will be split along racial lines. Ed Rendell even remarked that white voters in PA may not be ready to vote for a black man and sited his win over lynn swan and an example:

“You’ve got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate,” Rendell told the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in remarks that appeared in Tuesday’s paper

“I believe, looking at the returns in my election, that had Lynn Swann been the identical candidate that he was — well-spoken, charismatic, good-looking — but white instead of black, instead of winning by 22 points, I would have won by 17 or so,” he said. “And that (attitude) exists. But on the other hand, that is counterbalanced by Obama’s ability to bring new voters into the electoral pool.”

Seeing the overwhelming support by black voters could embolden white voters to decide along racial or gender lines more significantly.

Seeing as how Hillary distanced but DIDN'T dismiss or disavow geraldine farraro from her camp may be a not so subtle hint that its okay for white voters to vote based on race or sex. Which could eat into the obama camps lead as the race continues.

 

[Ultramagnetic]

The answer is no. How many Blacks were in Iowa, Vermont, Wisconsin? Don't fall for the hype. Note those who are quoted are all Hillary supporters. They are driving the racial angle.

 

[J Storm]

No.
AMERICA did that YEARS AGO.

Blacks only make up 12% of Americans Registered Voters.
Whites make up 66%.
Hispanics make up 15%
and the "Other's" make up the rest.

Don't fall for the medias Bullshit. Billary is losing because shes a fraud.

 

[bizzyboddy]

"When Blacks had the numbers, they didn't do anything to support us," said Callejo. "They always used our numbers to fulfill their goals and objectives, but they never really supported us, and there's a lot of hard feelings about that. I don't think we're going to get over it anytime soon."
WTF is he talking about?

 

[dasmybikepunk]

The answer is no. How many Blacks were in Iowa, Vermont, Wisconsin? Don't fall for the hype. Note those who are quoted are all Hillary supporters. They are driving the racial angle.

.....I love it when the bullshit gets exposed!!!

 

[rNubb]

"When Blacks had the numbers, they didn't do anything to support us," said Callejo. "They always used our numbers to fulfill their goals and objectives, but they never really supported us, and there's a lot of hard feelings about that. I don't think we're going to get over it anytime soon."
WTF is he talking about?

This is a old mexican woman saying these things. She is one woman that voicing her position. I am sure others share this opinion but mexicans didn't necessary vote for hillary becuase they anti black or anti Obama. Most of them are probably just pro Hillary.

Whitey is trying to divide the minorities. Too many of us all falling for it.

Hillary and the media are trying their last resort strategy.

Whitey supports Whitey.

Mississippi is not a true indicator for the rest of the nation. It is the source of white racist behavior.

Mississippi is the home of practically the home of all the blacks in Chicago, St Louis, Detroit and many other places. Our families fled that state. This is KKK country. Why do you think Obama got the largest percent of black vote in that deep south racist state.

92% black vote. This is the current record.
Fuck what the people used to say about blacks not sticking together.

We used to disagree about Michael Jackson or Prince. Whitney or Mariah. Tupac or Biggie. We disagree about east coast west coast rap and music in general. We disagree about religion, food choices and the N word.

But Black folks overwhelming agree upon Obama 08

 

[water]

Fuck her.



It's the other way around.

Because Hillary's campaign said disparaging remarks about the African American community, they are standing firm behind Obama.


Get it?

 

[Complex]

Billary caused the racial divide by her and his actions. Black people were still supporting and loyal to her, until she started her antics. Now with each state it's dropping more and more. It's funny to me how they concentrate on us voting for him, but not white women voting for her.

 

[Alpha_Male]

The answer is no. How many Blacks were in Iowa, Vermont, Wisconsin? Don't fall for the hype. Note those who are quoted are all Hillary supporters. They are driving the racial angle.

Yeah but the race today is different from what it was a week ago. The clintons have manage to once again change the landscape of the race. It's no mistake or coincidence that Geraldine made her remarks the day of the Mississipi primary. They anticipated the results, and are taking advantage of it by trying to resurect/elevate racial tension in the rednecks in In PA and the states beyond. White voters who are susceptible to racial divide. Obama is in unfamiliar and dangerous teritory. And the first time in this race, I can see him losing the nomination. Obama camp has to be smart in handling this one.

 

[VegasGuy]

No. "Race" seems to be the narrative hillary uses to make her case to her supporters as to why she cannot win.

I watched CNN (don't beat me up) coverage of the returns in MS and of all the models they could have used to determine what the voters were looking for, ( which are on their own websites exit polls,) they pointed to the issue of "race". They said:

"When asked (of exit polls) if hillary was not in the race could you support the other candidate?"

Then they put up numbers like 93 to 83. In favor of Obama Then:

"When asked if Obama was not in the race could you support the other candidate?"

The numbers were like 83 to 79 billary. Which I thought is a pretty high number. But CNN said, "SEE, this shows what SOME have been saying all along that race is the deciding factor for MS voters.

WTF??

Not one time in his narrative did he say if the people they asked were black or white.

But what they need to go ahead and admit, not enough people want that bitch in the white house. The problem is hillary not all this other shit.

-VG

 

[audio syndicate]

the answer is..not yet. it's brewing at this point, but wont hit a head until august.

what will basically happen as far as i can see is, if obama wins the nomination and goes up against mccain, you haven't even begun to see the underground racial themes that are about to come out. (dont be stupid enough to think the clinton campaign leaked that turban photo..this is a republican tactic through and through)

the primary above ground response is going to be, well obama has the black support already, so fuck em'....if i get into office, they aint getting shit from me!

now if every single eligible black person voted, we'd still fall tremendously short of what obama needs to win. he doesn't have the latino vote, or for that matter the "other" vote at this point (foreigners tend to vote conservative, is this a fair assessment?) and the yuppie white vote.

now, given the race, for most mid country whites, its gonna be "that obamer feller" vs. war p.o.w. mccain proud to be an american red white and blue.

keep this utterly ridiculous notion in mind, a lot of people don't want to see the iraq war ending because they think we're liberating some sand niggas and shipping american freedom over.

an grain of doubt is all it takes.....all this democratic bickering right now, all mccain has to do is wait it out, keep it positive for the moment and say...the democrats can't even keep their own party straight, how are they going to keep the country straight?

rove doesn't even need his bag of tricks this time and we truly get nothing out of the deal....

 

[Charon]

"When Blacks had the numbers, they didn't do anything to support us," said Callejo. "They always used our numbers to fulfill their goals and objectives, but they never really supported us, and there's a lot of hard feelings about that. I don't think we're going to get over it anytime soon."

OK, i'm at a loss here. Can someone clarify how "Blacks" used Latinos to fulfill their goals. Correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems to me that African Americans fought, died and sacfrificed themselves for most of the rights and priveledges Latinos are enjoying today. Now you tell me who's using who? It's biased, uninformed ,bullshit statements like this theat get me riled up.
Oh yeah, people forget that the African Amerian vote was pretty much split evenly between Obama and Hillary Clinton until the Clintons managed to royally piss off African Americans after Obama's SC win with similar statements like what that Ferraro bitch said, but noooo, it's all the "blacks" fault. Typical.

 

[Mr. Met]

Who cares?

Fuck catering to racist white folk.

 

[HeathCliff]

Answer: NO

Not everyone should base the racial dynamics on the complexity of history of the Mississippi voters.

 

[thoughtone]

Who cares?

Fuck catering to racist white folk.

There you go! Once again the thread starter and white America are blaming Black folks for racism. If the people that are not going to vote for Obama because he is Black are not going to vote for him, then there is nothing anyone can do about it. Excuses why will be made, but the will not vote form him!

 

[crossroads]

That's what Hillary and Farraro is hoping for.

 

[Van Allen]

This is a old mexican woman saying these things. She is one woman that voicing her position. I am sure others share this opinion but mexicans didn't necessary vote for hillary becuase they anti black or anti Obama. Most of them are probably just pro Hillary.

Whitey is trying to divide the minorities. Too many of us all falling for it.

Hillary and the media are trying their last resort strategy.

Whitey supports Whitey.

Mississippi is not a true indicator for the rest of the nation. It is the source of white racist behavior.

Mississippi is the home of practically the home of all the blacks in Chicago, St Louis, Detroit and many other places. Our families fled that state. This is KKK country. Why do you think Obama got the largest percent of black vote in that deep south racist state.

92% black vote. This is the current record.
Fuck what the people used to say about blacks not sticking together.

We used to disagree about Michael Jackson or Prince. Whitney or Mariah. Tupac or Biggie. We disagree about east coast west coast rap and music in general. We disagree about religion, food choices and the N word.

But Black folks overwhelming agree upon Obama 08

And why do black folks overwhelmingly agree with Obama?...........................................because he is black. It is what it is, Ferraro's point was true.of course.

 

[kewlphucker]

And why do black folks overwhelmingly agree with Obama?...........................................because he is black. It is what it is, Ferraro's point was true.of course.

How do you know what "black folks" do? The closest you get to any blacks is this board.

 

[Van Allen]

How do you know what "black folks" do? The closest you get to any blacks is this board.

Thats funny, you got any more comedy? Anyway, black folks overwhelmingly vote for Barack because he is black, simple. Why do black folks get upset when people point it out? We/black folk want to vote for the bruhta bacuse he is a brutha BUT we don't want folks to admit that. Thats some sick shit

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

How come whenever I see Hilary speak I see nothing but women in the background and crowd...what about her female support???​

 

[geechiedan]

Thats funny, you got any more comedy? Anyway, black folks overwhelmingly vote for Barack because he is black, simple. Why do black folks get upset when people point it out? We/black folk want to vote for the bruhta bacuse he is a brutha BUT we don't want folks to admit that. Thats some sick shit

the truth is we're damned if we do and damned if we don't..

we're stupid if we DO support obama based on race.

we're stupid if we DON'T support obama because he's the first viable candidate that could potentially take it..

so no matter what we do someone somewhere would take issue with it.

 

[jucurious]

And why do black folks overwhelmingly agree with Obama?...........................................because he is black. It is what it is, Ferraro's point was true.of course.

so if hilary was winning would it be because of what?
1) her being a woman
2) Bill being her husband

what about McCain?
1) because he's a man
2) because he's white


i think people are holding on to the race thing a little too much.

how does her comments explain his young white supporters?

America is just freaking out cuz they have never experienced anything other than a white man with a chance before so anything against status quo...especially dealing w/ minorities becomes a major issue.

what about the white men that received the majority or high amount of black votes before? what about women's votes?

i mean ppl will do and say ANY & EVERYTHING to take away from someone's character.

 

[Megatron X]

OK, i'm at a loss here. Can someone clarify how "Blacks" used Latinos to fulfill their goals. Correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems to me that African Americans fought, died and sacfrificed themselves for most of the rights and priveledges Latinos are enjoying today. Now you tell me who's using who? It's biased, uninformed ,bullshit statements like this theat get me riled up.
Oh yeah, people forget that the African Amerian vote was pretty much split evenly between Obama and Hillary Clinton until the Clintons managed to royally piss off African Americans after Obama's SC win with similar statements like what that Ferraro bitch said, but noooo, it's all the "blacks" fault. Typical.

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

Much has been made about the lack of support for Barack Obama among U.S. Latinos and much has been left unsaid. Among the mainstream media, and the mainstream Hispanic media, the issue is barely debated and simply lumped into a generalized pro-Clinton attitude among Hispanics. This is bullshit and everyone within the Hispanic community knows this. Barack Obama is black. That's the issue. That has been the issue, but no one will say it.

For the uninitiated it may come as a surprise that there is a great amount of racism within the Hispanic community. Not only does it exist, it is rampant, blatant, and without shame. Hispanics are the last bastion of pure unadulterated racism and it is high time we were called out about it.

Let me break it down:

If we are to greatly generalize, Puerto Ricans and Dominicans tend to have better relations with black Americans than do Mexicans and Cubans, and typically the more traditional or oldest members especially if they are recent immigrants tend to hold more anti-black sentiments than others.

That however is a generalization. I know black Dominicans who swear they are of pure European racial stock, or that their skin color is due to their Indian heritage. Many Puerto Ricans suffer from this delusion as well. And I've had friends laugh at me for dating an African American girl.

The issue is not a simple one and not one I expect any of the news channels to tackle in one of their so-in-depth 30 second interviews. In fact it is an issue that most Hispanics turn a blind eye to and go as far as arguing that in Latin America there is no racism.

The reasons for this racism are due to two main factors: 1) the racism practiced in Latin America and 2) the racism practiced in the United States. The message from both societies has been that it is better to be white above all else.

Americans should be aware that in Latin America it is still considered funny for comedians to go on stage with blackface on and that Latin America has never had a movement for black civil rights.

This is due to different sets of circumstances surrounding the histories of both the Anglo-American and Latin American societies. Slavery was never as institutionalized in Latin America as it was in the U.S. and discrimination was also less of an act supported by Latin American governments, unlike what we find in U.S. history. In fact while most Latin American countries had slavery, only Cuba and Brazil could be considered slave societies like the Southern States. And the transition to integrations while slower has also been smoother.

Still, we have a situation where most Latino immigrants to the U.S. come from places where the darker your skin is the less desirable you are and where the local equivalents to the word "******" are still in use even if it is not perceived as having the same negative connotation. Even black Latinos are often encourage to marry white or “whiter” Latinos "para mejorar la raza" or "to better the race".

So here is Barack Obama, a perfectly qualified person for the Presidency of the United States and to whose campaign I have donated, and much of the Hispanic population is unable to see him for anything else than a black man. Why?

Because in the Hispanic community the Republican Party for years has been characterizing the Democrats as the "Party of Blacks" and if you vote Democrat you must then be either black or a "******-lover". This is discourse that has been unsavory in most white American communities for a couple of decades. But for the throngs of Hispanic immigrants who come every year into the U.S. the message is new and it is a threat.

If someone is trying to start a new life in the U.S. free from discrimination or oppression the last thing they want is to be associated with the racial group considered most undesirable in the US, African Americans.

Due to political considerations, the Hispanic vote is still mostly Democratic, but the socially progressive message of the party is often lost when Republicans scare Hispanics with the message that black candidates will only serve black constituents often at the loss of Hispanic political influence and government services.

Latinos everywhere must enlighten themselves and see the system for what it is and recognize that African Americans and Hispanic Americans sit in the same boat, and if we stop rowing simply because the other is rowing, we'll just go around in circles.

I support Barack Obama, because I do believe in his message, because I believe in his politics, and because we should want to be more than just tokens as we were under the Clinton & Bush administrations and as we would be under McCain. I believe him to be a person of considerate thought, a person of responsibility, and a person who learns from his mistakes, and that's who I want watching over our country and our future, and to deal fairly with our brothers in Latin America and Africa.

And to my Latino brothers and sisters who cannot stand the thought of voting for a black man, I hope you find your shame before it is publicly found for you.

http://latinoinsurgent.blogspot.com/2008/03/hispanics-and-barack-obama-racism.html