The Truth About Black Teen Suicide

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The Truth About Black Teen Suicide

by Dwan "Telly" Carter
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She was responding to a poem a student had written about his suicide attempt. The room fell silent. Everyone else in the room was Black but her. "I mean, I didn't think they had serious problems," she added.

Sitting there in the classroom, I thought that had to be the most ignorant comment I had ever heard in my life. Now that slavery was abolished, the Civil Rights movement over and some African-Americans upwardly mobile, everything was alright? Blacks did not have any more problems? Wrong!

I found my teacher's statement absolutely offensive. But later, realized I had never thought about suicide among African-American teenagers either. Even though I had considered suicide myself, I didn't think that other Black kids did.

I Thought Suicide Was a White Thing

Like my teacher, I guess I thought suicide was more of a problem with White teens. Teen suicides talked about in the media were always White. If Blacks of any age were committing suicide, I had never heard about it in the news or on TV. Suicide never came up in a conversation with my friends, and my parents never talked about it.

My teacher's ignorance as well as my own led me to do further research on Blacks and suicide. I now know suicide is a real problem in the Black community and that I'm not the only Black teen who has ever thought about it.

My teacher and I weren't totally wrong to see suicide as a problem for White teens more than for Black teens. Until recently, White teens committed suicide at a much higher rate than Black teens, according to reports. But over the last 20 years, the rate of Black teen suicide has increased dramatically.

Paying More Attention to Suicide

According to the Centers for Disease Control, in 1980, the suicide rate for Whites aged 10-19 was 157% greater than that of Blacks. However, by 1995 there was only a 42% difference. Although Whites are still more likely to commit suicide than blacks, the suicide rate for all African-Americans doubled between 1980 and 1996.

These statistics startled me. I wondered why there was such a dramatic increase in Black suicides. Dr. Juliet Glinski, of the Montefiore Medical Center, suggests that medical officials may be identifying suicide as a cause of death more frequently because education about suicide is more a part of their training than it used to be.

"Is there an increase among Black teenagers or in fact are we paying more attention to the problem?" said Alan Ross, executive director of the Samaritans of New York, a suicide prevention organization. "When you pay more attention to a problem, you become more aware of the number of people suffering from it," he says.

Black Teens Get Depressed, Too

It's also possible that there are simply more Black teens committing suicide than in the past. But what could be making more Black people end their lives? For some, the same reasons as White people, such as depression, social isolation and hopelessness.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, the most common reasons given for attempted suicides by teen suicide survivors were a conflict with a boyfriend or girlfriend, an argument with parents and school problems. And gay teens of all backgrounds have a much higher rate of suicide because they often feel conflicted about or ashamed of their sexuality.

"Certainly the warning signs of suicide and the risk factors that touch all teenagers would be there for Black teenagers," said Ross.

When it comes to the motivations to commit suicide, Ross said, "there is no difference between us." Just like White teens, Black teens have had exposure to conflicts and sexual identity issues.

Moving Into the Middle Class

Is there anything that might account for the dramatic increase in suicides among African-Americans? Donna H. Barnes, one of the founders of the National Organization for People of Color Against Suicide, notes that depression, which often goes undiagnosed, is on the increase among African-Americans.

This might be because, says Barnes, "Blacks are being taken away from the traditional Black community and moving into White communities. Blacks feel isolated."

Barnes mentions that since the Civil Rights movement produced advances in law and equality, there are more opportunities available to Blacks than there used to be. Because of this, though, when they fail they may begin to blame themselves instead of the system. This can lead to depression and suicide.

Poverty and Low Self-Esteem

Poor African-Americans can also be affected by hopelessness and social isolation. Some community leaders have pointed to a lack of decent jobs and positive role models for young Black men in poor communities. They note that poverty and low self-esteem, together with easy access to drugs and guns, can lead to suicide as well.

Kenya Napper Bello, a counselor in Atlanta, told The Washington Post that the young Black men she counsels said they feel isolated from social institutions-such as family, church and school-that could help them.
Guys with Guns Die Most

Males do have a higher rate of suicide than females. Among people of all backgrounds, four males kill themselves for every female who kills herself. Of the 2,103 Blacks of all ages who committed suicide in 1997, Black males accounted for 1,764 of the completed suicides while only 339 were Black females. But more females, of all backgrounds, try to kill themselves; there are three female suicide attempts for every male attempt.

Males are more likely to actually kill themselves because they have greater access to firearms. Gun-related suicides accounted for 72% of suicides among Black males in 1997.

Because women and girls tend to use less effective ways to commit suicide such as slitting wrists and consuming pills, they are more likely to be found alive and taken to the hospital for treatment.

He Didn't Look Like the Suicide Type

I had thought about suicide before. I realized that the day my teacher made her ignorant comment. The student who had read his poem to the class (I'll call him Jai) did not look like the type that would want to end his life. He was popular and attractive. Out of all people, he would not have been the person I expected to weave this tale of horror.

Why did he want to die? "I wasn't happy with myself," he said. He survived his suicide attempt, though, and was sent to a mental institution for teenagers. The institution was crowded, depressing and suffocating.

"It was filled with hopelessness and despair," said Jai. The institution was filled with Black teenagers like himself, which surprised him.

I Didn't Feel Alone

After Jai read his poem, other students in the room also admitted to at least thinking about suicide. Suddenly, I didn't feel alone. We discussed why we had thought about suicide. Family problems and pressures from school were the most common reasons.

After our discussion, an eerie silence passed through the entire room, then we changed the subject. We never talked about it again. It was an eye opener for me. I did not know how widespread the problem was until that day.

"Everyone feels suicidal at one point in their life," said Ross. "We have to be responsive and supportive, not accusatory but understanding, and not blame the people for having a hard time. The more accepting we are, the more we help people before they feel more suicidal."

The National Hopeline Network 1-800-SUICIDE provides access to trained telephone counselors, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Or for a crisis center in your area, go here.

© 2002 by Youth Communication


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less mouths to feed. Shit if you feel like killing yourself, by all means do it, weak ass mutha fuckas

No disrespect but that was a dumb as hell statement.

Some people need help more than others and the so called weak ones who have been beaten down all their lives and finally don't want to live anymore are the most dangerous people in the world.

Like Brad Pitts character in "Fight Club" said "Only when we've lost everything are we free to do anything."

These suicidal people are taking their enemies and random people with them.

They truly need assistance but seeking help for depression in the black community is taboo. :smh:
 
I don't get the shit either.... It's not like we living in a time similar to pre 1960ish where blacks had to worry about lynching, segregation, and other forms of injustice.
 
less mouths to feed. Shit if you feel like killing yourself, by all means do it, weak ass mutha fuckas
Yeah, that's the spirit, tough guy. :hmm:

It's that very mentality that that perpetuates problem. Step your research game up. You might discover that manic depression/suicide is not all about 'weakness'. I won't bore you with the details that I'm sure you're not interested in. Google it. :cool:
 
No disrespect but that was a dumb as hell statement.

Some people need help more than others and the so called weak ones who have been beaten down all their lives and finally don't want to live anymore are the most dangerous people in the world.

Like Brad Pitts character in "Fight Club" said "Only when we've lost everything are we free to do anything."

These suicidal people are taking their enemies and random people with them.

They truly need assistance but seeking help for depression in the black community is taboo. :smh:


co sign until you been in those shoe's you really dont know what its like to be in the mind of another person. I said a little about my siutation in another post a few weeks ago. Black mental illness is a serious issue that nobody wants to address. All they wanna do is stuff pills down our throat to make us zombies.
 
I don't get the shit either.... It's not like we living in a time similar to pre 1960ish where blacks had to worry about lynching, segregation, and other forms of injustice.

yeah but theres other problems. its just a diff time. u think thats the ONLY problems in peoples lives? :confused::smh:
 
co sign until you been in those shoe's you really dont know what its like to be in the mind of another person. I said a little about my siutation in another post a few weeks ago. Black mental illness is a serious issue that nobody wants to address. All they wanna do is stuff pills down our throat to make us zombies.

Let me guess, your parents hated you, you got fingered in your ass as a kid, you dont make enough money, you feel like the whole world is againts you? Only cowards commint suicide period, Trials and tribulations are what makes us stronger. Ever heard the term what dont kill you makes you stronger? Like i said if someone feels like they need to kill themselves fuck it do it and may your soul burn in hell for all eternity weak asses.
 
If i was more alone i would be invisible? The fuck is wrong with this nigga? It's obvious he has talents lyrically but he uses it to rap about suicide?
 
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Clearly this conversation is too mature for the main board. SOL is ironically the best places for cats like us to have discussions like this. Another delivery from the main board...

I bet the "black" kids were closeted gays...

Let me guess, your parents hated you, you got fingered in your ass as a kid, you dont make enough money, you feel like the whole world is againts you? Only cowards commint suicide period, Trials and tribulations are what makes us stronger. Ever heard the term what dont kill you makes you stronger? Like i said if someone feels like they need to kill themselves fuck it do it and may your soul burn in hell for all eternity weak asses.

I should get a job at the suicide hotline. :lol:

If i was more alone i would be invisible? The fuck is wrong with this nigga? It's obvious he has talents lyrically but he uses it to rap about suicide?

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Just posting a case from last week....RIP jUjU


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Public Suicide At School Prompts Lockdown In Alabama

Last Updated: 12:52 PM Mar 6, 2008

Mobile, Alabama police say a Davidson High School student shot and killed himself in front of 150 classmates Thursday.

Just before 10 a.m. Central Time, 18-year-old Jajuan Homes walked into the gym, pulled out a revolver and fired one shot into the ceiling before shooting himself.

Davidson High School is in lockdown. Mobile police are on the scene. Nancy Pierce, a spokesperson for the school system, says 12 counselors are en route to the school.

Students are being allowed to go home, but their parents have to come and check them out.

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JuJuan Holmes' Troubled Past

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updated 8:10 a.m. CT, Fri., March. 7, 2008

So many are asking, who was this young man and why would he commit suicide in such a public way? NBC 15's Andrea Ramey has learned he had threatened suicide before.

(MOBILE, Ala.) March 6 --So many are asking, who was this young man and why would he commit suicide in such a public way? NBC15's Andrea Ramey has learned JaJuan Holmes had threatened suicide before.

Holmes threatened to kill himself Wednesday night at a home not too far from Davidson High School. Police say he did fire a shot in the air, but say Holmes was not at the house when they arrived, and they could not locate him. Police say he had been suspended from school but was in the Davidson High School gym on Thursday morning.

Investigators say there were other things in his life that weren't going right, and his troubled past may have lead to Thursday's tragedy.

Ninth graders Brittany and Yaniga can't fight back the tears as they recalled what they saw on Thursday morning. "It just came out of no where," said Brittany Hale.

"He just went up to the gym floor with a gun up to his head," said Yaniga Tucker.

An 11th grader, who did not want to be identified, said she was sitting behind JaJuan moments before he pulled the trigger. She says he was arguing with his girlfriend. "This is all I heard him say, 'I'll kill myself before I'll kill you.' And she said 'You don't need to do nothing stupid. You're going to regret this.'"

Holmes had a troubled past. Last month, police arrested him for allegedly robbing a Dairy Queen along with two other businesses in the downtown area.

Daniel McBride says he was friends with JaJuan and tried to talk to him about his troubles. "He seemed like he was kind of hiding something, and I just thought I'd let him come out on his own. And I came back to talk to him and he was like 'No man, I'm cool'. Obviously he wasn't," said McBride.

Mobile County District Attorney John Tyson Jr. says JaJuan floated from home to home. NBC15 News went to the address he had on his school record. A neighbor there told us, JaJuan didn't stay there that often.


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Clearly this conversation is too mature for the main board. SOL is ironically the best places for cats like us to have discussions like this. Another delivery from the main board...









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Yeah, this is more SOL material or the Brothers & Sistas board.

This suicide rate is also related to the high homicide rate among young Black men. It's all part of a general nihilism that's infected us and our youth.
 
less mouths to feed. Shit if you feel like killing yourself, by all means do it, weak ass mutha fuckas

No disrespect!
But show some class bro!
Shit happens in life:yes:
People get down and some take themselves out!
It could happen to some you love or care a lot for!

In my Freshman year in High School a close friend of mine committed suicide!
He hung himself in his parents shower with his dad's tie!
I have no clue how I would react if I came home and found my child like that!

For a lot of people life is sometime down right evil and too hard to continue!
So they do what they do and we just have to remember them!



 
Man that nigga in the video tight as fuck. He could have a hit for real if he wasn't talking bout suicide. That nigga clearly didn't grow up with a farther figure in his life. :smh:
 
Man that nigga in the video tight as fuck. He could have a hit for real if he wasn't talking bout suicide. That nigga clearly didn't grow up with a farther figure in his life. :smh:

Lots of suicide cases both parents were involved in the victim's life. Sometimes the father can be the cause of suicide if he's abusive.
 
Let me guess, your parents hated you, you got fingered in your ass as a kid, you dont make enough money, you feel like the whole world is againts you? Only cowards commint suicide period, Trials and tribulations are what makes us stronger. Ever heard the term what dont kill you makes you stronger? Like i said if someone feels like they need to kill themselves fuck it do it and may your soul burn in hell for all eternity weak asses.


Actually it was because by 22 I was making a grip, and still moving up. I had some personal issues happen when war popped off that pushed me that far. At 26 I'm still alive and I do belive that i'm stronger to this day, but you can't compare another man's shoes to yours or how he feels inside if you never had a day in his life. We are all different mentally and emotionally.;)
 
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