2PAC what was the beef with him and LL???

No disrespect but BULLSHIT. We're all dead in time. But Pac lived the life that maybe 2% of the population has.

I'd trade all this MP3, HDTV, CGI etc bullshit to have lived that life.

No HMO, I've had a good run so far, I can't complain, but to release something as powerful as S4MN and MATW? To have the following and respect that he had? C'mon man.

Naw, I dont want his fucking life. For what??? DEATH.

He lived the life all these young fatherless dumbshits have.

The difference between him and pacman jones is songs!!!!! That is sad!!!!!

They both throw away their lives for shit, ignorance.
.

Naw man, he aint live shit, he died!!!!!!!

Puffy, master P, jay Z, now those cats from that era are living and doing shit 2% of the population aint.
 
I guess yall forgot that PAC was down with BUCKSHOT and BOOT CAMP CLIK and TREACH how is dude gonna go against a whole coast?


Tupac and the Bootcamp hooked up on a CD called One Nation which hasn't been released. The purpose of the album was to squash the Eastcoast/Westcoast beef and make it apparent that the beef was with Badboy, not the east.
 
Hating on a dead man = THE ULTIMATE PUSSY & LOSER!
Everybody that I ever knew that hated on the dead were straight up losers & bitchmade ain't no doubt about it!:smh: You kids just outed yourself you bunch of no character non integrity having hoes!:roflmao2:
 
Naw, I dont want his fucking life. For what??? DEATH.

He lived the life all these young fatherless dumbshits have.

The difference between him and pacman jones is songs!!!!! That is sad!!!!!

They both throw away their lives for shit, ignorance.
.

Naw man, he aint live shit, he died!!!!!!!

Puffy, master P, jay Z, now those cats from that era are living and doing shit 2% of the population aint.

First of all, Jay and Puff don't have nearly the respect that Pac had. If they were to die tomorrow, they wouldn't be remembered like Pac. And IMO that's all that matters in this life.

Man you're either young, e-beefing or delusional. I'm sorry.

Did you follow Pac throughout his career?

How dare you compare him to pacman jones?

Dog, Pac's music and inspiration meant so much to many, myself included. You can't take that short 2 year with DR serious. He was misled at that point in his life. He showed loyalty to the only people that gave him love at that time, i.e. Suge Knight.

I'm not a Tupac apologist, he fucked up, but y'all 90s babies take his legacy for granted. You couldn't have been around, racially concious, when 2pacalypse Now came out. Couldn't have.

IMO, this dude died for us like your Jesus. He put his life on the line to speak up for all brothas going through the struggle.

These youngins are not birthed by the early Pac. They've been created by the irresponsible brothas running around here strapless. And Tupac impersonators such as Jarule and Nelly.
 
Hating on a dead man = THE ULTIMATE PUSSY & LOSER!
Everybody that I ever knew that hated on the dead were straight up losers & bitchmade ain't no doubt about it!:smh: You kids just outed yourself you bunch of no character non integrity having hoes!:roflmao2:

Couldn't have said it any better
 
Hating on a dead man = THE ULTIMATE PUSSY & LOSER!
Everybody that I ever knew that hated on the dead were straight up losers & bitchmade ain't no doubt about it!:smh: You kids just outed yourself you bunch of no character non integrity having hoes!:roflmao2:
You're right. Big ups to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Stephen Douglas, Adolph Hitler, Strom Thurmond, and every other dead person who should never be spoken ill of.

:rolleyes:
 
You ain't serious with this rite?
yep whites loved dude he crossed racial barriers same as OBAMA.If he was still breathing he and CLINTON would be fighting for the nomination.

Naw for real though I believe dude really would have caused a revolution if he had lived
 
:eek:

QFF

Quoted for fuckery.

Man . . .:smh: . . no really . . . :smh: at you nuccas.

I have the ability and objectivity to put myself in another man's shoes. And this allows me to understand the shit that Tupac went through as a person and as an artist.

He put his life on the line to speak out for Black People. Can you understand that?

Pac was put through hell so your black ass could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. He called out every politician, cops, feds, etc. He wasn't a "celebrity." He always displayed his "real" self to the masses.

I've met and chopped it up with him in person, real talk. This dude was in our PR room at the Indiana Black Expo ('93) and didn't want security or a stunt double because he loved his people that much. He was not trippin'. And when he went out, he had mobs of people gravitating in his direction. It was like a walking bee hive.

Bottom line, Pac was loved like your Christ. And that's real spit. And he deserved it because he was unprecedented. Yeah, he was flawed, a product of his environment but he stood for righteousness and love for our race. Bottom line.

Maybe you're just too middle classed. I don't excuse the thuggery going on today but Pac was a soldier. A soldier for you and I. Some people have interpreted the wrong way.

MLK (in your avatar) has been hated on after his passing, rip.


Dummys.
 
yeah, these clowns are getting mad like they knew the guy. Kills me how people will get all up in arms and have reverence for someone that kinda-sorta-if-you-squint-you-can-see-it contributed something worthwhile to the world alongside the ignorance that he spread just cause he was "real." Nothing against the guy, but dude is a dead rapper. I mean, really, what did we lose?

bitch u crazy. Pac was the one that tired to help the black people come together.
 
bitch u crazy. Pac was the one that tired to help the black people come together.

Originally Posted by Ghost0ne View Post
yeah, these clowns are getting mad like they knew the guy. Kills me how people will get all up in arms and have reverence for someone that kinda-sorta-if-you-squint-you-can-see-it contributed something worthwhile to the world alongside the ignorance that he spread just cause he was "real." Nothing against the guy, but dude is a dead rapper. I mean, really, what did we lose?

He's white.
 
He's white.

naw I'm black u stupid motherfucka. he made diss songs cuz bithes was talkin shit like yall. overall his music was about us doin stupid shit like killin each other listen to his shit before that dumbass blood got to him. even when he was with him he still put out songs for us. Listen to his last interview
 
Man . . .:smh: . . no really . . . :smh: at you nuccas.

I have the ability and objectivity to put myself in another man's shoes. And this allows me to understand the shit that Tupac went through as a person and as an artist.

He put his life on the line to speak out for Black People. Can you understand that?

Pac was put through hell so your black ass could enjoy the freedoms that you enjoy today. He called out every politician, cops, feds, etc. He wasn't a "celebrity." He always displayed his "real" self to the masses.

I've met and chopped it up with him in person, real talk. This dude was in our PR room at the Indiana Black Expo ('93) and didn't want security or a stunt double because he loved his people that much. He was not trippin'. And when he went out, he had mobs of people gravitating in his direction. It was like a walking bee hive.

Bottom line, Pac was loved like your Christ. And that's real spit. And he deserved it because he was unprecedented. Yeah, he was flawed, a product of his environment but he stood for righteousness and love for our race. Bottom line.

Maybe you're just too middle classed. I don't excuse the thuggery going on today but Pac was a soldier. A soldier for you and I. Some people have interpreted the wrong way.

MLK (in your avatar) has been hated on after his passing, rip.


Dummys.

1. It's "dummies," dummy.

2. MLK is similar to Tupac in that he is dead. That is something they both share with Strom Thurmond, Ronald Reagan, Ghandi, and every person born before 1860. That alone does not qualify you for respect.

3. I don't have a Christ. The fact that you assume everyone shares the mythology of the Roman Empire demonstrates your lack of worldiness and awareness (which is why you would compare Tupac to Jesus).

4. Tupac did not put his life on the line for black people. He put his life on the line to stomp black people at the MGM. He put his life on the line to sell records and maintain an image. He is not unique in that.

5-100. Chris Rock-- "Martin Luther King was assassinated. Malcolm X was assassinated. John F Kennedy was assassinated. Them two niggas got shot!"
 
Either the people on this board are mostly white crackers or ignorant niggas who have no idea what it is to be a black person. The man is dead. Show respect.:smh:

...and I'm convinced this muthaphucka is one of them
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:lol: bitch, go back to lurkin.

that nigga pac was one of the least respectful personalities in the history of popular music.
if anyone can be joked at after death...its that irascible motherfucker.
and if no one can, NEW RULE: Pac can.

live by the ______, die by the _______.
 
naw I'm black u stupid motherfucka. he made diss songs cuz bithes was talkin shit like yall. overall his music was about us doin stupid shit like killin each other listen to his shit before that dumbass blood got to him. even when he was with him he still put out songs for us. Listen to his last interview

Man I was talking about the dude you quoted. Not you.

But if you want to diss. Tupac wasn't about "stupid" shit.

And his music wasn't dumb.

And he didn't make songs about us killing each other.

Even during the Death Row era his credits read:

Changes
Baby Don't Cry
I Ain't Mad Atcha
California Love
To Live and Die in LA
Krazy
White Mans World
2 of Americas Most Wanted
Thugs Mansion

Quote one line where Tupac was promoting killing an innocent brotha. Please.

Y'all youngins kill me. I don't speak on MLK and Ali because I wasn't around. To say something like "overall his music was . . . kill this . . . kill that" is unacceptable.







You big dummy.
 
First of all, Jay and Puff don't have nearly the respect that Pac had. If they were to die tomorrow, they wouldn't be remembered like Pac. And IMO that's all that matters in this life.

Man you're either young, e-beefing or delusional. I'm sorry.

Did you follow Pac throughout his career?

How dare you compare him to pacman jones?

Dog, Pac's music and inspiration meant so much to many, myself included. You can't take that short 2 year with DR serious. He was misled at that point in his life. He showed loyalty to the only people that gave him love at that time, i.e. Suge Knight.

I'm not a Tupac apologist, he fucked up, but y'all 90s babies take his legacy for granted. You couldn't have been around, racially concious, when 2pacalypse Now came out. Couldn't have.

IMO, this dude died for us like your Jesus. He put his life on the line to speak up for all brothas going through the struggle.

These youngins are not birthed by the early Pac. They've been created by the irresponsible brothas running around here strapless. And Tupac impersonators such as Jarule and Nelly.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That ignorant fuck pac is why we have "white tee troopers", or any other buck 60 muthafucka rather shoot first than fight.

He was a bitch with a loud mouth.

He spawned a whole generation of "womanly thugs" right on the heel of the X-clan/public enemy/krs-one movement.

FUCK PAC.

He is the reason THUGS became cool, while muthafuckas like JAY-Z and master P that promoted running shit didnt!!!!!!!!!!

Its cool to be "hard and dead", but uncool to be wealthy and alive!!!!!!

Pac coined the word thug for the hip hop generation undermining anything the XCLAN,KRS, and PUBLIC ENEMY did.

Now we dont speak of PE's fight the power, or xclan hits, or krs one, we talk of tupac and still have young skinny fucks thinking its cool to blaze a gun and catch one....................that makes you a man.

Fuck pac and his legacy.

KRS, XCLAN and PE brought way more to the table then he did...........from that statement you can tell I aint a 90's baby!!!!!

Matter of fact if it wasnt for geto boys, NWA, and 2 live breaking down doors, 2pac wouldnt have had any success with 2pacolypse now.............they paved the way and fought for him to spit his bullshit, in that aspect he wasnt even any kind of pioneer, he road coattails and got lucky with the GOAT cause he died!!!!!!
 
Man I was talking about the dude you quoted. Not you.

But if you want to diss. Tupac wasn't about "stupid" shit.

And his music wasn't dumb.

And he didn't make songs about us killing each other.

Even during the Death Row era his credits read:

Changes
Baby Don't Cry
I Ain't Mad Atcha
California Love
To Live and Die in LA
Krazy
White Mans World
2 of Americas Most Wanted
Thugs Mansion

Quote one line where Tupac was promoting killing an innocent brotha. Please.

Y'all youngins kill me. I don't speak on MLK and Ali because I wasn't around. To say something like "overall his music was . . . kill this . . . kill that" is unacceptable.







You big dummy.

my bad on that one but if you think he didn't make songs about us coming together u are very dumb and please leave this post now. His song make me who I am now. Which means I dont like puttin harm on my black people. Even tho the king and X should have taught me that.
 
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That ignorant fuck pac is why we have "white tee troopers", or any other buck 60 muthafucka rather shoot first than fight.

He was a bitch with a loud mouth.

He spawned a whole generation of "womanly thugs" right on the heel of the X-clan/public enemy/krs-one movement.

FUCK PAC.

He is the reason THUGS became cool, while muthafuckas like JAY-Z and master P that promoted running shit didnt!!!!!!!!!!

Its cool to be "hard and dead", but uncool to be wealthy and alive!!!!!!

Pac coined the word thug for the hip hop generation undermining anything the XCLAN,KRS, and PUBLIC ENEMY did.

Now we dont speak of PE's fight the power, or xclan hits, or krs one, we talk of tupac and still have young skinny fucks thinking its cool to blaze a gun and catch one....................that makes you a man.

Fuck pac and his legacy.

KRS, XCLAN and PE brought way more to the table then he did...........from that statement you can tell I aint a 90's baby!!!!!

Matter of fact if it wasnt for geto boys, NWA, and 2 live breaking down doors, 2pac wouldnt have had any success with 2pacolypse now.............they paved the way and fought for him to spit his bullshit, in that aspect he wasnt even any kind of pioneer, he road coattails and got lucky with the GOAT cause he died!!!!!!

"These niggas still talking, you still breating?"


Fuck Pac?

Fuck you.

Are you serious man?

I'm a primary promoter of KRS being the GOAT. Check my history. And KRS is the loud mouths of all loud mouths.

Ninja I was copping X-Clan tapes and rocking African medallions.

Anyways, Tupac was a prophet.

You're saying that he wasn't any kind of pioneer but yet speak of the many clones that misinterpreted his message. Just like the many Christian cults in today's society.

It's easy to sit here and humanize Pac because like I said, he put his flaws on display.

I'll give you those points on Puffy and Jay, yeah, they took the "smart" and safe route but they aren't nearly as loved as Pac is. And if you value wealth over legacy then I can't argue with you. But Tupac was the realest, most loved rap artist ever. Ever. Live with it.

Chuck D had a whole 18 Reasons conspiracy about Pac.

Tupac always had respect for his peers. He gave shouts to PE, Cube, Grand Master Flash: listen to Representing '93.

He was just on some Malcolm X shit on steroids. Dummy.
 
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That ignorant fuck pac is why we have "white tee troopers", or any other buck 60 muthafucka rather shoot first than fight.

He was a bitch with a loud mouth.

He spawned a whole generation of "womanly thugs" right on the heel of the X-clan/public enemy/krs-one movement.

FUCK PAC.

He is the reason THUGS became cool, while muthafuckas like JAY-Z and master P that promoted running shit didnt!!!!!!!!!!

Its cool to be "hard and dead", but uncool to be wealthy and alive!!!!!!

Pac coined the word thug for the hip hop generation undermining anything the XCLAN,KRS, and PUBLIC ENEMY did.

Now we dont speak of PE's fight the power, or xclan hits, or krs one, we talk of tupac and still have young skinny fucks thinking its cool to blaze a gun and catch one....................that makes you a man.

Fuck pac and his legacy.

KRS, XCLAN and PE brought way more to the table then he did...........from that statement you can tell I aint a 90's baby!!!!!

Matter of fact if it wasnt for geto boys, NWA, and 2 live breaking down doors, 2pac wouldnt have had any success with 2pacolypse now.............they paved the way and fought for him to spit his bullshit, in that aspect he wasnt even any kind of pioneer, he road coattails and got lucky with the GOAT cause he died!!!!!!

This is some BULLSHIT!!

I'm a big fan of all them groups you mentioned, still listen to them today. I'm also a big fan of Pac & he had a big impact on people's live's just like those groups and not because he was killin mofo's. A lot of hardcore cats(THUGS) didnt listen to X-Clan, PE, Krs, etc, Pac had the ability to reach those cats who they couldnt reach. The same way Ice Cube did. For Example

Letter 2 my Unborn
[QT]http://sir-rah.net/mp3/Unborn.mp3[/QT]

This Aint Livin
[QT]http://sir-rah.net/mp3/AintLivin.mp3[/QT]
 
KRS, XCLAN and PE brought way more to the table then he did...........from that statement you can tell I aint a 90's baby!!!!!

And I'll argue this statement too.

I grew up off KRS, XClan and PE but when I first hear 2pacalypse Now? It was like seeing HDTV for the first time. He had a better way of conveying the message than those other artists. In retrospect, I call that "realism." Just like when I first heard Scarface.

Souljah's Story? C'mon man.

You never heard anything like that before it was created.
 
Another thing, you cant measure a mofo's life in 25yrs. Just think if Malcom X was killed instead of going to jail. Just a dead THUG. You still got a lot of growing to do at 25....and oh yea I'm not one of the pac fanatics, just give credit were it's do!!!

FYI:
Ice Cube is my fav of all time, Pac is a close second
 
Its funny how dudes talk bad about a man when he dead and wouldn't say half that shit to his face when he was alive. A fact is that PAC is a hip hop icon wether you liked him or not , half these rappers today want to be PAC so how in the hell can you talk bad about a man like that. This is truely some shameful SHIT!
 
^^^ yeah Tupac is a hip hop icon but he wasnt no leader nor had the potential. Some of his fanatical fans try to make him out to be much more than he actually was. Beef or no beef, that sickle cell diss pretty much tells you what a confused character he was. But r.i.p to the nigga. Not trying to take anything away from him, just being real. Maybe he would have grown to become a better person but we dont know that do we?
 
Its always easy to spot the people who just talk out of their ass and don't know dudes music or any facts to his story.
 
"Phenomenon"..."she said she loves some Tupac but hates some LL/do you really want a thug or do you want love?"

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Tupac was dead a whole year b4 that phenomenon shit came out.
stop lying to the masses.
:smh:@ yarl niggas believing this shit.
 
Maybe I can sum it up like this...

Tupac was a very intelligent, creative man who had more ideas to help Black people before he was killed...his problem was he felt that he had to live by the "Thug Life" credo for the sake of "keeping it real"...he also had a lot of anger with people who may or may not have done him wrong...he associated himself with people who may not have had his best interests at heart......ultimately, this is what got him killed...in any case, it is a tragedy when someone dies that young...I feel he had more to say (positive and negative)...
 
End of thread.:yes:

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Yeah there was some beef over this woman. Both at various points we're seeing her romantically.

ey LL, meet my lil homiez LL Cool J, say what, ni**a I'll rock your mothaf*ckin bells, me and my mothaf*ckin lil homiez, outlawz, real ni**as, my lil homiez, who wants to get with this old wild sh*t?"

"Call me a motherf*cking troublemaker, Send me to jail, But watch me bust on L.L."
Ladies Love Cool James, who is acknowledged as one of the first rappers who made rap popular for the masses, was one of Tupac's foes. Although Tupac admired him and gave him a shout out on his song "Old School" which is praising all the rappers that influenced him throughout his career and who helped rap, he got into beef with LL over some still curious reasons.

LL didn't seem to be pleased with the whole Tupac situation and recorded a remix of his song "I Shot Ya", which brings to mind a song by Notorious BIG which was called "Who Shot Ya." Tupac thought this song was about him being shot in New York. The song featured Keith Murray, Fat Joe, Foxy Brown and Prodigy off Mobb Deep.

Tupac and LL were not much of friends anytime before and Tupac was pretty pissed. Therefore, Tupac recorded tracks with shots at LL. For example in "My little Homies", which remains unreleased until today, he says "Say what nigga, I rock your motherfucking bells", referring to LL's song "I Rock The Bell". It is still unknown whether any other occasions took place or not but LL even took shots at Tupac on his album "Phenomenon", in which he says: "She says she loves Tupac but hates LL. Do you really want a Thug or do you want love". This is an apparent diss to Tupac and pretty weak knowing that it was released after Tupac's death.
 


That nigga is DEAD!... whatever beef the fucktard had, we can now confirm that he lost! :lol:

:lol: i dont wish death on nobody, so that part was fucked up, but if he was alive and well, i'd have to say, fuck that nigga, i was and still am a biggie fan. Wasn't a fan of his.

side note... I wish those two niggas was still alive for the simple reason, all this bullshit thats on the radio now, would not exsisted, i wouldn't be forced to hear gotdamn shawdy lo, or stupid ass souja boy, or the rest of this gay shit on the radio.


side note 2. Big L, and big pun, also, wish those two niggas were still here, i'd trade all these niggas thats so called hot today, for big l, and biggie, to come back
 
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