Black History Month Thread

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Cutie is it OK for me to submit this brother because of the opportunity he has to make history???

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I'm not sure exactly what you referring in what you said but I'll address one thing. When I titled the thread it wasn't meant to exclude those not "American". If a mod can change to say "Black" instead that's fine with me. Posters are free to post whomever they like.
Look hun, we cool and theres no problem. I just want you to overstand that the title "African American" is automatically exclusionary of all other Black people.
I get called that damn near every day by some white person yet nothing about me is american. Its a PC term to stifle white guilt. They even have the nerve to come to our country and call us that because they afraid to say BLACK. There is no ill will but this must be spoken on. Peace.
 
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I'm not sure exactly what you referring in what you said but I'll address one thing. When I titled the thread it wasn't meant to exclude those not "American". If a mod can change to say "Black" instead that's fine with me. Posters are free to post whomever they like.

Edit to add: I guess you were referring to the Stokely Carmichael post. . .. but I deleted that a long time before your comment. :confused:

Yo don't fall under pressure from insecure bullshit. The title clearly stated AFRICAN AMERICAN! Now i enjoyed the posts about other peoples culture, but jump off Chi's dick! If you feel excluded its for a good reason you're not part of African American history.:rolleyes:
 
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Yo don't fall under pressure from insecure bullshit. The title clearly stated AFRICAN AMERICAN! Now i enjoyed the posts about other peoples culture, but jump off Chi's dick! If you feel excluded its for a good reason you're not part of African American history.:rolleyes:

You so dense. All we Black people are ONE and all share and shared the same struggles. I for unity. Are you? Or would you prefer to let the white devil continue to succeed with their divide and conquer bullshit?
 
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You so dense. All we Black people are ONE and all share and shared the same struggles. I for unity. Are you? Or would you prefer to let the white devil continue to succeed with their divide and conquer bullshit?

Im not the one clicking into a Caribbean/African history thread crying because no Black Americans are mentioned. Do you see how silly that looks? I'm all for unity and there are threads about that on here, but jumping all over people due to a thread that clearly states African American is "dense".
 
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Come on, y'all,...

Bi-girl, everyday you gotta get into it with somebody?

You need to start a debate thread, ma...


What's up with you anyway?
 
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Im not the one clicking into a Caribbean/African history thread crying because no Black Americans are mentioned. Do you see how silly that looks? I'm all for unity and there are threads about that on here, but jumping all over people due to a thread that clearly states African American is "dense".

Its BLACK History Month NOT African american History Month. What part you don't understand? Home we learn about all your people as well as ours and the rest of the worlds. When England has their Black History Month in October ALL Black heroes are honored not just British ones. Stop falling for the white mans trap he laid out for you.
 
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Come on, y'all,...

Bi-girl, everyday you gotta get into it with somebody?

You need to start a debate thread, ma...


What's up with you anyway?

HH started with the divisive and separatist crap so I had to set him straight.
You might enjoy the quiz I just posted.

Anyway *exits thread rapidly* since its only for African americans :smh:

and I ain't coming back in neither. yall can have it and wallow in your small mindedness. peace.
 
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BTW I can't post alot of the people i want to post like Paul Bogle and Toussaint L'Overture
and Robert Athyli Rogers because they are not "African American" :hmm:

It's "BLACK" history month. POST EVERYTHING YOU GOT PLEASE!

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HH started with the divisive and separatist crap so I had to set him straight.
You might enjoy the quiz I just posted.

Anyway *exits thread rapidly* since its only for African americans :smh:

and I ain't coming back in neither. yall can have it and wallow in your small mindedness. peace.

:lol::lol::lol: like my Jamaican best friend would say "carry your ass"
 
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you are a clear example of why you people STAY ignorant :smh:

Yeah whateva bi. You seem to have some kinda insecurity issues poppin off. At least thats how you come off.
 
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Wow. . . . what is happening in this thread! I'm not gonna even comment. I'm just gonna post my vid and keep it moving.. . .


This is a song that I absolutely love! You might have to fast forward a little through the talking. . . but it's a great song.


Nina Simone - Four women

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Nina Simone was born Eunice Kathleen Waymon in 1933 in North Carolina, the sixth of seven children in a poor family. She began playing the piano at age 4 and was classically trained, attending the Juilliard School in New York for one year. She had hoped to attend the prestigious Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia, but was rejected — one of many disappointments she would attribute to racism.

Simone turned to singing jazz and popular music as a way to make money, performing in nightclubs in Philadelphia and Atlantic City, N.J. In the late 1950s Simone recorded her first tracks, including "Plain Gold Ring" and "Don't Smoke in Bed." But she gained fame in 1959 with her recording of "I Loves You Porgy," from the George and Ira Gershwin Broadway musical, "Porgy & Bess." Soon Nina Simone the nightclub singer became Nina Simone the star, performing at Town Hall, Carnegie Hall and the Newport Jazz Festival.

There was a time when Nina Simone was dubbed "the high priestess of soul," a term she hated, not only because it smacked of marketing hype but because it tried to put her in a box she'd never have fit in comfortably. While Simone certainly invested all her work with soul, she blurred boundaries and jumped genres, embracing jazz, pop, blues, spirituals, folk, French chansons, African song and the works of contemporary songwriters like Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, the Bee Gees and the Beatles -- Simone's reading of "Here Comes the Sun" remains a transcendent moment of elegance and joy. Simone was also one of the first African American artists to embrace traditional African garb, adding regal bearing to her already dramatic presence.

Simone was a crucial voice in the civil rights era, when some of her most striking work addressed the horrors and injustices attending blacks in the South, incendiary tracts like "Mississippi Goddam" (inspired by the 1963 Birmingham church bombing that killed four black girls), "Old Jim Crow" and "Backlash Blues" (based on a poem written for Simone by Langston Hughes). Like jazz artists Abbey Lincoln, Max Roach and Charles Mingus, Simone used her populist platform to shine a bright light into ugly corners of American society.

It is ironic that Simone's first and only American hit came early in her career. The 1957 recording of George Gershwin's "I Loves You Porgy" went Top 20, the only Top 40 entry of a career that covered 45 years. Confirming the vagaries of pop culture, Simone did enjoy a top-five single in England in 1987, when a three-decade-old recording of "My Baby Just Cares for Me" -- from the same "Little Girl Blue" album that included "Porgy" -- became a hit after being used in a television commercial.

What was always evident in Simone's style was a powerful contralto that expressed her highly personal interpretations of varied materials, subtly shaded by her assured piano underscoring. You can hear Nina's classical training come out on many of her recordings. She initially trained to be a classical pianist, but found there to be few opportunities in the field for African Americans in the 1950s. It was then that in order to support her further musical education, she made a living accompanying classical singers. When an opportunity to work in an Atlantic City lounge cropped up in 1954, it was on the condition that she sang as well as played. That's when Eunice Waymon became Nina Simone, out of fear of offending her handyman father and, perhaps more important, her Methodist minister mother. Up to that point, Simone had never sung in public.

Simone started off exploring the Great American Songbook, but also expanded her repertoire with stately spirituals like "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands" and reconstituted folk standards like "House of the Rising Sun" and "Black Is the Color of My True Love's Hair." Whatever the material, Simone offered it on her terms.

Her recording career started in the mid-'50s on the Bethlehem label, and even though she was never a particularly "commercial" presence, she was prolific: The online site All Music Guide lists almost 100 albums (including compilations). Many of the best are live albums that capture the artist's charisma, tenderness and fervor -- as well as the occasional firestorm of anger and frustration. Because Simone was so productive, particularly in the first two decades of her career, she could be annoyingly erratic and inconsistent on record: her best-ofs are often the best representation of less-than-stellar efforts, but there's usually at least one gem on every album she recorded.

By the late '60s, Nina Simone had grown weary of American racial politics and frustrated with the level of her commercial success. She relocated to Europe, where she felt more appreciated as both an artist and a black person. She lived at various times in Switzerland, France and England, as well as Liberia and Barbados. When Simone performed at Lisner Auditorium in 1992, it was her first Washington appearance in 15 years; her last was in June of 2001, when she filled Constitution Hall with fans who excused the singer's time-worn voice and apparent health problems and enthusiastically applauded her indomitable spirit and proud history.
 
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This is a song that I absolutely love! You might have to fast forward a little through the talking. . . but it's a great song.

That's all I needed. Love me some Nina. Great thread Chicutie!
 
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That's all I needed. Love me some Nina. Great thread Chicutie!

Glad you enjoyed it. I love Nina Simone.

Some more of my favorites:

Ne Me Quitte Pas

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I put a spell on you

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Ella Fitzgerald

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Dubbed "The First Lady of Song," Ella Fitzgerald was the most popular female jazz singer in the United States for more than half a century. In her lifetime, she won 13 Grammy awards and sold over 40 million albums.

Her voice was flexible, wide-ranging, accurate and ageless. She could sing sultry ballads, sweet jazz and imitate every instrument in an orchestra. She worked with all the jazz greats, from Duke Ellington, Count Basie and Nat King Cole, to Frank Sinatra, Dizzy Gillespie and Benny Goodman. (Or rather, some might say all the jazz greats had the pleasure of working with Ella.)

She performed at top venues all over the world, and packed them to the hilt. Her audiences were as diverse as her vocal range. They were rich and poor, made up of all races, all religions and all nationalities. In fact, many of them had just one binding factor in common - they all loved her.

Humble but happy beginnings

Ella Jane Fitzgerald was born in Newport News, Va. on April 25, 1917. Her father, William, and mother, Temperance (Tempie), parted ways shortly after her birth. Together, Tempie and Ella went to Yonkers, N.Y, where they eventually moved in with Tempie's longtime boyfriend Joseph Da Silva. Ella's half-sister, Frances, was born in 1923 and soon she began referring to Joe as her stepfather.

To support the family, Joe dug ditches and was a part-time chauffeur, while Tempie worked at a laundromat and did some catering. Occasionally, Ella took on small jobs to contribute money as well. Perhaps naïve to the circumstances, Ella worked as a runner for local gamblers, picking up their bets and dropping off money.

Their apartment was in a mixed neighborhood, where Ella made friends easily. She considered herself more of a tomboy, and often joined in the neighborhood games of baseball. Sports aside, she enjoyed dancing and singing with her friends, and some evenings they would take the train into Harlem and watch various acts at the Apollo Theater.

A rough patch

In 1932, Tempie died from serious that injuries she received in a car accident. Ella took the loss very hard. After staying with Joe for a short time, Tempie's sister Virginia took Ella home. Shortly afterward Joe suffered a heart attack and died, and her little sister Frances joined them.

Unable to adjust to the new circumstances, Ella became increasingly unhappy and entered into a difficult period of her life. Her grades dropped dramatically, and she frequently skipped school. After getting into trouble with the police, she was taken into custody and sent to a reform school. Living there was even more unbearable, as she suffered beatings at the hands of her caretakers.

Eventually Ella escaped from the reformatory. The 15-year-old found herself broke and alone during the Great Depression, and strove to endure.

Never one to complain, Ella later reflected on her most difficult years with an appreciation for how they helped her to mature. She used the memories from these times to help gather emotions for performances, and felt she was more grateful for her success because she knew what it was like to struggle in life.

"What's she going to do?"

In 1934 Ella's name was pulled in a weekly drawing at the Apollo and she won the opportunity to compete in Amateur Night. Ella went to the theater that night planning to dance, but when the frenzied Edwards Sisters closed the main show, Ella changed her mind. "They were the dancingest sisters around," Ella said, and she felt her act would not compare.

Once on stage, faced with boos and murmurs of "What's she going to do?" from the rowdy crowd, a scared and disheveled Ella made the last minute decision to sing. She asked the band to play Hoagy Carmichael's "Judy," a song she knew well because Connee Boswell's rendition of it was among Tempie's favorites. Ella quickly quieted the audience, and by the song's end they were demanding an encore. She obliged and sang the flip side of the Boswell Sister's record, "The Object of My Affections."

Off stage, and away from people she knew well, Ella was shy and reserved. She was self-conscious about her appearance, and for a while even doubted the extent of her abilities. On stage, however, Ella was surprised to find she had no fear. She felt at home in the spotlight.

"Once up there, I felt the acceptance and love from my audience," Ella said. "I knew I wanted to sing before people the rest of my life."

In the band that night was saxophonist and arranger Benny Carter. Impressed with her natural talent, he began introducing Ella to people who could help launch her career. In the process he and Ella became lifelong friends, often working together.

Fueled by enthusiastic supporters, Ella began entering - and winning - every talent show she could find. In January 1935 she won the chance to perform for a week with the Tiny Bradshaw band at the Harlem Opera House. It was there that Ella first met drummer and bandleader Chick Webb. Although her voice impressed him, Chick had already hired male singer Charlie Linton for the band. He offered Ella the opportunity to test with his band when they played a dance at Yale University.

"If the kids like her," Chick said, "she stays."

Despite the tough crowd, Ella was a major success, and Chick hired her to travel with the band for $12.50 a week.

Jazzing things up

In mid 1936, Ella made her first recording. "Love and Kisses" was released under the Decca label, with moderate success. By this time she was performing with Chick's band at the prestigious Harlem's Savoy Ballroom, often referred to as "The World's Most Famous Ballroom."

Shortly afterward, Ella began singing a rendition of the song, "(If You Can't Sing It) You Have to Swing It." During this time, the era of big swing bands was shifting, and the focus was turning more toward bebop. Ella played with the new style, often using her voice to take on the role of another horn in the band. "You Have to Swing It" was one of the first times she began experimenting with scat singing, and her improvisation and vocalization thrilled fans. Throughout her career, Ella would master scat singing, turning it into a form of art.

In 1938, at the age of 21, Ella recorded a playful version of the nursery rhyme, "A-Tisket, A-Tasket." The album sold 1 million copies, hit number one, and stayed on the pop charts for 17 weeks. Suddenly, Ella Fitzgerald was famous.

Coming into her own

On June 16, 1939, Ella mourned the loss of her mentor Chick Webb. In his absence the band was renamed "Ella Fitzgerald and Her Famous Band," and she took on the overwhelming task of bandleader.

Perhaps in search of stability and protection, Ella married Benny Kornegay, a local dockworker who had been pursuing her. Upon learning that Kornegay had a criminal history, Ella realized that the relationship was a mistake and had the marriage annulled.

While on tour with Dizzy Gillespie's band in 1946, Ella fell in love with bassist Ray Brown. The two were married and eventually adopted a son, whom they named Ray, Jr.

At the time, Ray was working for producer and manager Norman Granz on the "Jazz at the Philharmonic" tour. Norman saw that Ella had what it took to be an international star, and he convinced Ella to sign with him. It was the beginning of a lifelong business relationship and friendship.

Under Norman's management, Ella joined the Philharmonic tour, worked with Louis Armstrong on several albums and began producing her infamous songbook series. From 1956-1964, she recorded covers of other musicians' albums, including those by Cole Porter, Duke Ellington, the Gershwins, Johnny Mercer, Irving Berlin, and Rodgers and Hart. The series was wildly popular, both with Ella's fans and the artists she covered.

"I never knew how good our songs were until I heard Ella Fitzgerald sing them," Ira Gershwin once remarked.

Ella also began appearing on television variety shows. She quickly became a favorite and frequent guest on numerous programs, including "The Bing Crosby Show," "The Dinah Shore Show," "The Frank Sinatra Show," "The Ed Sullivan Show," "The Tonight Show," "The Nat King Cole Show," "The Andy Willams Show" and "The Dean Martin Show."

Due to a busy touring schedule, Ella and Ray were often away from home, straining the bond with their son. Ultimately, Ray Jr. and Ella reconnected and mended their relationship.

"All I can say is that she gave to me as much as she could," Ray, Jr. later said, "and she loved me as much as she could."

Unfortunately, busy work schedules also hurt Ray and Ella's marriage. The two divorced in 1952, but remained good friends for the rest of their lives.

Overcoming discrimination

On the touring circuit it was well-known that Ella's manager felt very strongly about civil rights and required equal treatment for his musicians, regardless of their color. Norman refused to accept any type of discrimination at hotels, restaurants or concert halls, even when they traveled to the Deep South.

Once, while in Dallas touring for the Philharmonic, a police squad irritated by Norman's principles barged backstage to hassle the performers. They came into Ella's dressing room, where band members Dizzy Gillespie and Illinois Jacquet were shooting dice, and arrested everyone.

"They took us down," Ella later recalled, "and then when we got there, they had the nerve to ask for an autograph."

Norman wasn't the only one willing to stand up for Ella. She received support from numerous celebrity fans, including a zealous Marilyn Monroe.

"I owe Marilyn Monroe a real debt," Ella later said. "It was because of her that I played the Mocambo, a very popular nightclub in the '50s. She personally called the owner of the Mocambo, and told him she wanted me booked immediately, and if he would do it, she would take a front table every night. She told him - and it was true, due to Marilyn's superstar status - that the press would go wild. The owner said yes, and Marilyn was there, front table, every night. The press went overboard. After that, I never had to play a small jazz club again. She was an unusual woman - a little ahead of her times. And she didn't know it."
 
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Just to address things said above posters are free to post whomever they like. I don't care if people post people not necessarily African American, despite the name of the thread. All BLACK people are welcome in this thread.



CT, you know Obama is definitely welcome in this thread. :yes:

Edit to add: Bigirl, I hope you don't stop posting in this thread because of negative things that were said. I appreciate your contribution. And you added a lot of people that I hadn't even heard of before. Which is the whole point of this thread. . . to learn. Respect.
 
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It's "BLACK" history month.

Yep. That is why I changed the title of my posts to BLACK and not African American (which is wrong).

Someone could've posted Charlize Theron and Steve Nash all in the thread and it would have been relative to the topic. :rolleyes:

Despite all of that, it's still a great thread.
 
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Yep. That is why I changed the title of my posts to BLACK and not African American (which is wrong).

Someone could've posted Charlize Theron and Steve Nash all in the thread and it would have been relative to the topic. :rolleyes:

Despite all of that, it's still a great thread.

How is it wrong? Until the black power movement other black people went by their nationality as they still do. Charlize & Steve have nothing to do with the accomplishments of Black Americans.:rolleyes:
 
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How is it wrong? Until the black power movement other black people went by their nationality as they still do. Charlize & Steve have nothing to do with the accomplishments of Black Americans.:rolleyes:

:lol: You answered your own question.
 
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:lol: You answered your own question.

I never said Black Americans are the only black people in the world. I'm talking about immigrants wanting to lump history together. We are all black, but we have different histories. Understand?
 
>Subject: Fw: Life Without Black People

>��Subject: Life Without Black People
>Life without black people
>
>
>A very humorous and revealing story is told about a group of
>white people who were fed up with African Americans, so they joined
>together and wished themselves away .
>
>They passed through a deep dark tunnel and emerged in sort of a
>twilight zone where there is an America without black people .
>
>At first these white people breathed a sigh of relief. At last, they said, no
more crime, drugs, violence and welfare .
>
>All of the blacks have gone! Then suddenly, reality set in . The
>'NEW AMERICA ' is not America at all-only a barren land.
>
>1 . There are very few crops that have flourished because the nation was
>built on a slave-supported syst em .
>
>2 . There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because Alexander
>Mils, a black man, invented the elevator, and without it, one finds great
difficulty rea ching higher floors .
>
>3 . There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man, invented the
automatic gearshift, Joseph Gambol, also black, invented the Super Charge System
for Internal Combustion Engines, and
>Garrett A . Morgan, a black man, invented the traffic signals.
>
>4 . Furthermore, one could not use the rapid transit system because its
procurser was the electric trolley, which was invented by another black man,
Albert R . Robinson.
>
>5 . Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit �
>system could operate, they were cluttered with paper because an African
American, Charles Brooks, invented the street sweeper.
>
>6 . There were few if any newspapers, magazines and book s because
>John Love invented the pencil sharpener, William Purveys invented the fountain
pen, and Lee Barrage invented the Type Writing Machine and W . A . Love invented
the Advanced Printing Press . They were all, you guessed it, Black.
>
>7 . Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books, they would
not have been transported by mail because William Barry invented the Postmarking
and Canceling Machine, William Purveys invented the Hand Stamp and Philip
Downing invented the Letter Drop.
>
>8 . The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the Lawn
Sprinkler and John Burr the Lawn Mower.
>
>9 . When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly ventilated and
poorly heated . You see, Frederick Jones invented the Air �
>Conditioner and Alice Parker the Heating Furnace . Their homes were also dim.
But of course, Lewis Lattimer later invented the Electri c Lamp, Michael Harvey
invented the lantern,and Granville T . Woods invented the Automatic Cut off
Switch. Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W . Steward invented the Mop
and Lloyd P . Ray the Dust Pan.
>
>10 . Their children me t them at the door-barefooted, shabby, motley and
unkempt .But what could one expect? Jan E . Matzelinger invented the Shoe
Lasting Machine,Walter Sammons invented the Comb, Sarah Boone invented the
Ironing Board, and George T . Samon invented the Clothes Dryer.
>
>11 . Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of this
turmoil . But here again, the food had spoiled because another Black Man, John
Standard invented the Refrigerator.
>
>Now, isn't that something? What would this country be like without the
contributions of Blacks, as African-Americans?
>
>Martin Luther King, Jr . said, 'by the time we leave for work, Americans have
dep ended on the inventions from the minds of Blacks.''
>
>
>Black history includes more than just slavery, Frederick Douglass,
>Martin Luther King, Jr . , Malcolm X, and Marcus Garvey
>& W . E . B . Dubois .
 
Ok yall stop all the fussing and fighting i changed the title....Black people unity...

HustleHardah I have never and will never consider myself African American. Its a title I do NOT appreciate. BLACK am I. However I respect your choice to be


Chicutie you done a good thing is this thread sistren. Peace n Love all de time :yes:

Some of my kinda vibes sista

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This is an excerpt of a post I dropped over on BGOL in the "Irrelevance of African History" thread. I think that it's pretty poignant. Some of mypoints have been stated already by others but, I thought y'all might like to read it in case you didn't see it on BGOL. much respect to all.

How will you know where you're going, if you don't know where you came from? True enough, very few of us know exactly where we came from in Africa. Rest assure though, ALL of us came from Africa. IMHO the very notion of BLACK history month is a slap in the face. As if OUR history in this country is separate from all other Americans. I understand why it was created but, the need for it's creation again is a travesty. The contributions of black men and women to this country is unfathomable. The very reason that slaves were split up from their fellow coutrymen was to eradicate communication and unity. There is a very good book by a Brother named Chancellor Williams called "The Destruction of Black Civilization". It's a must read for anyone who actually gives a dam. The very name of the continent which we come from doesn't even bare the name that it's original inhabitants gave it. That is to say, Africa is not the name of our home continent. The name given to the continent we come from is, Bilal Al Sudan(sp) "The Land of the Black Man". It was renamed by a Spanish/Portugese map maker who mapped it out named Leonardo Africanus. Below is an excerpt from an article about life in America without the contributions of Black Americans. (I posted the "contibutions" in a seperate post on this thread earlier). One that is not included below. Daniel Hale Williams, a Black American, was the first person EVER to perform open heart surgery. The irony of this is he died due to very treatable injuries after being involved in a car accident and being denied treatment at a hospital because he was Black.
 
Ok yall stop all the fussing and fighting i changed the title....Black people unity...

HustleHardah I have never and will never consider myself African American. Its a title I do NOT appreciate. BLACK am I. However I respect your choice to be


Chicutie you done a good thing is this thread sistren. Peace n Love all de time :yes:

Some of my kinda vibes sista

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/QYSxy32kDLQ[/flash]

I never typed i was in favor of the term African American, but I am the decedent of 500+ years of Black American history. I have/had no problem with other black nationalities contributing. bibroad is a mixed up individual, she hates everything American, but benefits directly off the backs of them. Thats where the problem begun and where i ended it.
 
I never typed i was in favor of the term African American, but I am the decedent of 500+ years of Black American history. I have/had no problem with other black nationalities contributing. bibroad is a mixed up individual, she hates everything American, but benefits directly off the backs of them. Thats where the problem begun and where i ended it.

benefit how?
 
BiGirl, did you get your PM I sent you? You don't have to reply or anything. I just wanted to know if your read it.
 
I did. sorry I didn't reply.

We str8. I just wanted to make sure you read it. If you get a chance, pick up that book I mentioned. it's published by Third World Press. I promise you won't be able to put it down once you start reading it.
 
great thread y'all

props to Chicutie for starting this thread too

i posted this Nina Simone article a week ago on the main board but it didnt get any replies or many views. makes a small mention of obama towards the end.........




Soul Influencer: Nina Simone

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2008-02-15
By dream hampton


There are two recordings by Nina Simone that seem to define her personal politics. The first, "Mississipi Goddamn" was a rage filled response to the murder of Medgar Evers and the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, where four Black girls were murdered. When she learned of the bombing, her first response was irrational. "I tried to make myself a gun! I gathered some materials. I was going to take one of them out, I didn't care who it was." She told Lashonda Barret, author of I Got Thunder, decades later, it was her husband who talked her off the ledge.

Instead the lyrics for "Mississipi Goddamn" poured from her. She recorded the song live, before an adoring, and ultimately stunned audience at Carnegie Hall in March of 1964. Simone was fed up. Fed up with the high price of civil rights, fed up with what some, like Stokley Charmichael and Malcolm X, were coming to regard as the impotent response of the Southern based Civil Rights movement. "You keep on saying/Go Slow," she roared, as much to President Johnson as to the leaders she'd come to love and respect. As much as she supported Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (she'd donated many performances to fundraisers for the movement), by the end of Mississipi Goddamn her impatience with his Ghandi inspired, passive, non-violence had erupted. "This whole country is full of lies / You all gonna die, die like flies."

The second song is of course, the revenge fantasy "Pirate Jenny," co-authored by the radical Socialist playwright and theorist, Bertol Brecht. In his hands the lyrics signify the uprising of the silent, servant and working classes. In Nina Simone's hands the maid with a secret who scrubs the floor, is closer to the women in Battle of Algiers who smuggles bombs to the town square beneath her burqua. "You gentlemen can wipe off that smile off your face/Cause every building in town is a flat one/This whole frickin' place will be down to the ground."

The Black Power Movement had yet to be fully formed, but with her recording of "Pirate Jenny," Nina seemed to give them permission to bear arms, encouraged them to abandon the picketing and marching for something more covert, more underground, to respond to violence with violence. Ultimately, the confrontation exhausted her, the assassination of King in 1968 seemed to crush her hope of real resistance , of a full restoration of rights and humanity to Blacks in America. She made her way to West Africa, where she was welcomed like royalty, where she says, she felt no pressure to perform, no pressure to struggle. She ended up, like a few other important Black
artists from her generation, in France, though even there she didn't suffer fools lightly.

"How can anyone expect me to live in a country where our leaders are shot dead. I couldn't live here if I wanted to, because I have to stand up for my rights and those rights of Black people everywhere."

She didn't grow more optimistic about America with age, nor did her passion to struggle against injustice soften with age. "I don't like this country; I never did. America will sell her soul for money." Thanks to a set of reissues and compilations in late eighties, a new, American audience rediscovered her.

She inspired a new generation of singers and rappers like Lauryn Hill and Talib Kweli. In many ways she is the godmother to the fearlessness that the hip-hop generation considers its birthright. She's always been dismissive of the form, call it "not music at all," but it is her uncompromising and bold example that made Chuck D., Nas and Mos Def possible.

In the mid-90s she made headlines for shooting, through her window, two of her disruptive neighbors, with her bb gun. They were disturbing her peace. The current presidential election has exposed a long-existing generational divide; the old, Civil Rights guard dismissing Obama because he's "not ready." It doesn't take much to imagine
Nina dressing her peers down for their backstepping, "you keep on saying/go slow!" Nina Simone, the indignant, the unpacified, the unrepentant, the unbowed.


Until her 2003 death in the South of France she was a symbol of defiance, a regal woman whose retreat from America was less defeat than a declaration that the country itself wasn't salvageable.

dream hampton is an author, filmmaker and critic. She writes about culture and music and is a new contributor to EbonyJet.com

Front page photo (c)Alfred Wertheimer/Contact Press Images


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