KEMETIANS: What Made 'Em Different From Their Fellow Africans?

[AtomAnt]

EDIT -

Theres quite a few ancient egypt slash religion threads on this porn board that makes it appear as if peoples are desparately looking for answers but seemingly not knowing where to begin - not asking the right questions - this thread is an attempt to address that - fam lets discuss some fundamental questions on egypt


check this out -

Ancient Egyptian science medicine mathematics and astronomy were all of an exponentially higher order of refinement and sofistication than modern scholars will acknowledge

The entire Ancient Egyptian civilization was based on a complete and precise understanding of the Universal Laws - All aspects of the Ancient Egyptian knowledge - the sum of all the knowledge - seemed to have been (read: were) complete at the very beginning

The scientific artistic architechtural and heiroglyphics systems all show virtually NO SIGN of a period of development (none whatsoever - imagine that!)- indeed many of the sofistication of the earlier dynasties appeared to have been (once again read: were) carried over from pre-dynastic eras - they were never surpassed or even equalled later on

~ schwaller de lubicz

How did the "egyptians" become so knowledgeable?!?

AFRICA is a vast continent - how was it that it was the land of egypt - that looks like its about to fall off of the continent - that held the sum of all knowledge?!?

Just how did the ancient "egyptians" know so much?!?

Just what was the true level of understanding and sofistication of the "egyptians"?!?

Just how did they know so much - head and shoulders above the the rest of their fellow africans?!?

Was it guesswork?!?

Was it by experimentation?!?

Was it a long process of deduction?!?

How?!? - What was it?!?

If the continent of Africa was full of black peoples - mostly tribal communities and societies and these black families were going about their varied but similar traditions and cultures then why was it only egypt that had this imposing highly advanced highly civilized traditions?!?

lets be honest these facts just dont add up - it doesnt make any sense that one little portion of the entire continent would be head and shoulders above the rest in advancement when everyone was supposed to be one and the same


In other words what was the origin of the civilization of egypt that sets her right apart from its fellow african states?

What was the source of her civilization that sets her head and shoulders (and waist even) apart from her fellow africans?

Exactly what made that country absolutely unique in the ancient world of the africans?


From the other perspective the assertion that western civilization has its origins in africa is tenable but only as long as the perpetrators do not then base eeeverything on egypt alone... the focus is just too much on egypt.... too much - egypt isnt africa and africa isnt egypt - egypt isnt all there is to africa and theres a whole lot more to africa than egypt alone

Lets be honest and ask ourselves the following - when and from where sprang that extremely advanced knowledge?!? - I mean there doesnt even seem to be any evidence of its accomplishments preceeding it - it simply appeared to literally spring into existence from thin fresh air - from nowhere

These people were suddenly evolved - their consciousness was suddenly infused with a rare wisdom - lets be honest - who were these people in reality?!? - why did they receive favor in the eyes of God but not their fellow indidenous native africans ?!? - out of all the vastness of the african continent why did God bless the egybtians and only them with such wisdom such knowledge such understanding?!? - why did God forsake the remainnning african states/countries?!? - why did God abandon them?!? - were they not worthy of the same knowledge and advancement as the egyptians?!?


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[Spectrum]

How did the Incas, Mayans, and Aztecs become so advanced?

North America is a vast continent..how is it that the civilizations of the Yucatan Peninsula, etc, become so much more knowledgeable than other "native americans" like the eskimos..

How did the Aztecs know so much?

What is our level of understanding of the Mayans?

Was it guesswork, etc etc...

Why are you consistently trying to discredit Diop's work AtomAnt?

 

[bionicbrown]

fam lets discuss some fundamental questions on egypt

How did the "egyptians" become so knowledgeable?!?

AFRICA is a vast continent - how was it that it was the land of egypt - that looks like its about to fall off of the continent - that held the sum of all knowledge?!?

Just how did the ancient "egyptians" know so much?!?

Just what was the true level of understanding and sofistication of the "egyptians"?!?

Just how did they know so much - head and shoulders above the the rest of their fellow africans?!?

Was it guesswork?!?

Was it by experimentation?!?

Was it a long process of deduction?!?

How?!? - What was it?!?




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I JUST posted the pyramids and artifacts of the ancient sudanese, which has just as much of a legacy as Egypt

Somebody posted here from ted.com a video that revealed west africans use of fractals, which is the basis of binary code

There is SOOOOO much that has not been covered by the Mainstream media and white archeologists, that you REALLY don't know if YOU know the full scope

 

[DESHAUN MICHAELS]

GREAT, ANT... NOW I GET TO FUCK UP ONE OF YOUR POSTS

JUST KIDDING.

I THINK THE INCAS,MAYANS, AND AZTECS GOT THEIR KNOWLEGDE FROM THE EGYTANS. I THINK THE PYRAMIDS OF CHINA AS WELL AS MUCH OF ASIAN CULTURE DERIVES FROM AFRICAN/EGYTIAN CULTURE.

(THE DRAGON WORSHIP(CHINA)THE WORSHIPPING OF REPTILIANS IN AFRICA)

Feather Serpent God--THE MAYANS ALSO WORSHIPPED REPTILES

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid

http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilians.html

 

[AtomAnt]

How did the Incas, Mayans, and Aztecs become so advanced?

North America is a vast continent..how is it that the civilizations of the Yucatan Peninsula, etc, become so much more knowledgeable than other "native americans" like the eskimos..

How did the Aztecs know so much?

What is our level of understanding of the Mayans?

Was it guesswork, etc etc...

Why are you consistently trying to discredit Diop's work AtomAnt?

no eewwll Im not stooping that low - we're just a new breed of academia with a fresh outlook thats all - its nothing personal like that - besides i have deep-rooted respect for the man - my outlook just happen to be just fresh - having said that you'd notice that while he covers a lot of dynastic eras this thread delves more into pre-dynastic - the earlier era - no pre-conceived agendas here - am not out to prove him wrong bruh


dont really know much about the incas aztecs mayans etc - i'd guess they were distant cousins to the "egyptians"

 

[Spectrum]

dont really know much about the incas aztecs mayans etc - i'd guess they were distant cousins to the "egyptians"

You know I'm gonna be checking back in to see what's posted....

 

[AtomAnt]

I JUST posted the pyramids and artifacts of the ancient sudanese, which has just as much of a legacy as Egypt
There is SOOOOO much that has not been covered by the Mainstream media and white archeologists, that you REALLY don't know if YOU know the full scope

is modern sudan comparable to modern egypt across the border?!? - oh really?!? - beause it appears that what we see today of the two neighborly countries is a of the 100-year rule of the Black Sudanese Pharaohs of Egypt - what they got in sudan is literally childs play next to egypt



on the other hand theres much thats been stumbled upon but may never see the light of day

check this out -

Ancient Egyptian science medicine mathematics and astronomy were all of an exponentially higher order of refinement and sofistication than modern scholars will acknowledge

The entire Ancient Egyptian civilization was based on a complete and precise understanding of the Universal Laws - All aspects of the Ancient Egyptian knowledge - the sum of all the knowledge - seemed to have been (read: were) complete at the very beginning

The scientific artistic architechtural and heiroglyphics systems all show virtually NO SIGN of a period of development (none whatsoever - imagine that!)- indeed many of the sofistication of the earlier dynasties appeared to have been (once again read: were) carried over from pre-dynastic eras - they were never surpassed or even equalled later on

~ schwaller de lubicz

 

[kimchifunk]

is modern sudan comparable to modern egypt across the border?!? - oh really?!? - beause it appears that what we see today of the two neighborly countries is a of the 100-year rule of the Black Sudanese Pharaohs of Egypt - what they got in sudan is literally childs play next to egypt

just look at the number of pyramids. sudan has twice as many as egypt. did they build all of those 223 pyramids in a 100 year period?

 

[mk23666]

I think I know where you are going with this. I hope you share what you know soon.

 

[mk23666]

Sudanese pyramids seem to be minature copies of what they had/saw in Egypt.

 

[AtomAnt]

just look at the number of pyramids. sudan has twice as many as egypt. did they build all of those 223 pyramids in a 100 year period?

mk23666 just answered your question below - their pyramids werent built to any specific precisions either

Sudanese pyramids seem to be minature copies of what they had/saw in Egypt.

not "seemed to be" - the sudanese were obviously "aping" the egyptians splendor

 

[mk23666]

I was trying to be ... diplomatic.

 

[AtomAnt]

I think I know where you are going with this. I hope you share what you know soon.

i dont think i know something you dont - i mean nothing is really hidden - everything is in plain sight - or some might like to say hidden in plain sight - same difference - for instance you got the masons following a tradition of apron-wearing during initiations just like the pharaohs used to do - something somewhat peculiar like that

 

[Spectrum]

not "seemed to be" - the sudanese were obviously "aping" the egyptians splendor

 

[J Storm]

Question: KEMETIANS: What Made 'Em Different From Their Fellow Africans?


Answer: Europeans.

 

[AtomAnt]

this is 1 scary pic mayne

 

[AtomAnt]

naw naw naw eewwll lemme explain - i clicked the "sarcasm" imagery - - it just didnt show up once i clicked the reply button - no message would have been much clearer - than that

 

[AMENTA]

Some points that reinforce links to inside the continent of africa:

recent carbon dating on tombs (pharaonic style) in ancient nubia date further back than ones found in ancient egypt.

we must take into consideration: the lines are blurred between both areas since they were were named more for the ethnicity as opposed to being a 'nation state' with boundary lines or borders within the sense of today's topography. That concept came about in recent times.

today's modern 'egypt' is not egypt by the way. its the 'Arabic Republic of Msr' (msr, being a name hearkening to the pseudo-egypt of the bible 'misraim'). so it is illusion to think it is the same people's or land space as the ancient.

upper egypt (the sedge) does not start from the meditteranean but from nubia. and that means its head is from inside the continent. when lower egypt became the prominent area, it was under the invading and conquering foreigners.

Amun (amen), one of the most popular and ancient deities (which has a presence in today's 'holy books'), originate from nubia.

nubians are considered to be the original people by those in islam.

 

[AtomAnt]

...when lower egypt became the prominent area, it was under the invading and conquering foreigners.

Amun (amen), one of the most popular and ancient deities (which has a presence in today's 'holy books'), originate from nubia.

nubians are considered to be the original people by those in islam.

lower egypt is of more relevance to us today for a number of reasons -

the historical exodus of the hyksos shepherd kings was from lower egypt

the biblical exodus of the israelites shepherds was from lower egypt

the worship of the sun god RA and the city of the sun Heliopolis(On) were in lower egypt

its also absolutely crucial that the giza plateau where the GREAT PYRAMID was built is in lower egypt

the city of the sun - Heliopolis - was in lower egypt while the city of the dead where the kings and queens were buried - necropolis - was in upper egypt

by the way note that everytime you switch on the electricity to your home you are unknowingly worshipping the lower egyptian sun god - you are switching ON the light - let there be light - its the rays of light that make you see RA - therefore it is the RA aspect of Amen-RA thats more relevant here

 

[smokedacane]

Feather Serpent God--THE MAYANS ALSO WORSHIPPED REPTILES

Mayans worshiped Quezecoatal and the Aztecs Kulkulkan. They're essentially the same God though. From what I have read both of them came from the heavens and taught them everything they knew (mathematics, agriculture, architecture).



If you're familiar with the Sumerians, they too claim that their Gods (Annunaki) came from the sky and taught them everything they knew. To me it sounds like these people were visited by ancient astronauts.





And I have not seen any evidence that would support ancient Egyptians being in Central or South America. I mean they very well could of been but they're not mentioned anywhere by the Incas, Aztecs, or Mayans (unless this info was destroyed).



Also In the book of Thoth, isn't it mentioned that Atlanteans escaped to Egypt when Atlantis was destroyed?

 

[smokedacane]

bump

 

[AMENTA]

lower egypt is of more relevance to us today for a number of reasons -

the historical exodus of the hyksos shepherd kings was from lower egypt

the biblical exodus of the israelites shepherds was from lower egypt

the worship of the sun god RA and the city of the sun Heliopolis(On) were in lower egypt

its also absolutely crucial that the giza plateau where the GREAT PYRAMID was built is in lower egypt

the city of the sun - Heliopolis - was in lower egypt while the city of the dead where the kings and queens were buried - necropolis - was in upper egypt

by the way note that everytime you switch on the electricity to your home you are unknowingly worshipping the lower egyptian sun god - you are switching ON the light - let there be light - its the rays of light that make you see RA - therefore it is the RA aspect of Amen-RA thats more relevant here

these are good points for me. but i would be the 'choir' in this instance.

it must be understood the points that i made was just to show linkage to nubia and the african interior, and by no means refuting the importance of lower egypt (the bee).

the biblical exodus is not equivalent to the erroneous corruption of 'hyksos' (rightly named heka khaswt, foreign rulers)in relation to egypts own record. josephus' 'sheperd king' definition does not match 'foreign rulers' (egypt's own account).

i would call the hyksos an account of a historical event misrepresented by josephus. he was not a good historian at all if you really study him. the biblical exodus is not relevant since its really a fable and is a combination or collection of stories and embellishments people call 'god's word'.

hebrews are not equivalent to hyksos or hekau khasut. certain religious groups/orgs. push that and do not know that there are significant differences. its easy to say they are the same because it seems similar. but its not.

to say that hebrews or israelites match hekau khasut is to justify bible and bible is in know way substantial in any case except for maybe 'the faithful'.

 

[AtomAnt]

Mayans worshiped Quezecoatal and the Aztecs Kulkulkan. They're essentially the same God though. From what I have read both of them came from the heavens and taught them everything they knew (mathematics, agriculture, architecture).



If you're familiar with the Sumerians, they too claim that their Gods (Annunaki) came from the sky and taught them everything they knew. To me it sounds like these people were visited by ancient astronauts.





And I have not seen any evidence that would support ancient Egyptians being in Central or South America. I mean they very well could of been but they're not mentioned anywhere by the Incas, Aztecs, or Mayans (unless this info was destroyed).



Also In the book of Thoth, isn't it mentioned that Atlanteans escaped to Egypt when Atlantis was destroyed?

props for this spledid contribution - all these ancients seem to have had some divine instructions from the "gods" - the problem we're having with these is that history is condemning them as myths and legends - it does certainly appear that the sum of all human knowledge came from the gods - the book of thoth mentioned something along that line and even the author thoth was called thoth the atlantean - the god of knowledge etc

 

[AtomAnt]

these are good points for me. but i would be the 'choir' in this instance.

it must be understood the points that i made was just to show linkage to nubia and the african interior, and by no means refuting the importance of lower egypt (the bee).

the biblical exodus is not equivalent to the erroneous corruption of 'hyksos' (rightly named heka khaswt, foreign rulers)in relation to egypts own record. josephus' 'sheperd king' definition does not match 'foreign rulers' (egypt's own account).

i would call the hyksos an account of a historical event misrepresented by josephus. he was not a good historian at all if you really study him. the biblical exodus is not relevant since its really a fable and is a combination or collection of stories and embellishments people call 'god's word'.

hebrews are not equivalent to hyksos or hekau khasut. certain religious groups/orgs. push that and do not know that there are significant differences. its easy to say they are the same because it seems similar. but its not.

to say that hebrews or israelites match hekau khasut is to justify bible and bible is in know way substantial in any case except for maybe 'the faithful'.

you got fundamentals to this subject - however you just tripped up at the most important part - trust me you were doing really well - you were covering the grounds well but you tripped!

 

[AtomAnt]

AMENTA

i think you have a good understanding of this era except for a lil' bit of arrogance that wont let you see right through the core of the entire story - you've got the crust - the subject matter - which is the very name concerned - the egyptian word "hek" or "hyk"

the point is that this word is written the same way but depending on its pronouciation it could mean either shepherd king like the hyksos or a it could mean captive slaves like the hebrews/israelites

 

[AMENTA]

you got fundamentals to this subject - however you just tripped up at the most important part - trust me you were doing really well - you were covering the grounds well but you tripped!

you seem very patronizing and presumptuous. thats not good character traits if you want to call yourself teaching me.

i do not know your background neither do you know mine. so i do not make assumptions about anyone or say words about people's intellectual performance.

that seems to be elite and superior behavior; something i'm not into at all.

i admire humble individuals.

i do well to disagree with your patronizing.

and if you want to talk about 'tripping': 'kemetian' is a modern day invention and is false when we refer to the ancients.

it is a corruption of a what is represented as 'kmt', therefore false.

i am not about pointing out people's mistake though.

 

[smokedacane]

props for this spledid contribution - all these ancients seem to have had some divine instructions from the "gods" - the problem we're having with these is that history is condemning them as myths and legends - it does certainly appear that the sum of all human knowledge came from the gods - the book of thoth mentioned something along that line and even the author thoth was called thoth the atlantean - the god of knowledge etc

Yeah you're right, I have only read small fragments of The Book of Thoth. I remember some time back in another thread (I think eewwll mentioned it) that the author called himself an Atlantean. I believe Atlantis existed, and at one time in our distant pass there was an great exchange of knowledge between people of the world.




I'm not totally sure what brought an abrupt end to this utopia but I think the World Wide Flood did occur. This is the only feasible thing I could think of that would totally eradicate the wealth of knowledge and prosperity of an entire world and would cause us to start over again. Also if you take into account the controversial claim that the Sphinx and the pyramids shows signs that at one time they were under water than there is something more to this rather than myth.

Additionally, the underwater rock formation that was discovered a couple years ago off the coast of Japan that shows signs of human ingenuity was at one time above water around ten thousand years ago.

I don't believe what is described in the bible is a mirror image of how it happened, to me that flood story in the bible was a story of our archaic past that was passed down from generation to generation.



This knowledge of pyramid building that spans the entire globe just screams out to me that at one time in our distant past there was worldwide communication between civilizations.

 

[AtomAnt]

AMENTA

consider the english word "fair" - it has at least 2 meanings - same thing applies to the egyptian word in question "heq" - it has 2 meanings - now imagine translating from the egyptian into the english - the historians saw the word "heq" and took the shepherd king meaning because as far as historians are concerned its leaders and rulers and kings and queens that matter to their story - historians only write about major players in events of history

theologians on the other hand read the SAME SCROLL (its so important that you understand this portion cos its the crucial part of it all) - they read the same book as the historians did but the theologians took the other meaning of that same word "heq" cos that suited their story better - theologians portray stories of humble families - revering the divine etc - they chose the shepherds in captivity meaning of the same word

the most important gist here is that the history books and the religious books (bible quran torah) were ALL translated from a SINGLE STORY BOOK in earlier languages therefore they're ALL really telling the SAME STORY albeit in their individually distorted ways

 

[AtomAnt]

Yeah you're right, I have only read small fragments of The Book of Thoth. I remember some time back in another thread (I think eewwll mentioned it) that the author called himself an Atlantean. I believe Atlantis existed, and at one time in our distant pass there was an great exchange of knowledge between people of the world.
I'm not totally sure what brought an abrupt end to this utopia but I think the World Wide Flood did occur. This is the only feasible thing I could think of that would totally eradicate the wealth of knowledge and prosperity of an entire world and would cause us to start over again. Also if you take into account the controversial claim that the Sphinx and the pyramids shows signs that at one time they were under water than there is something more to this rather than myth.
Additionally, the underwater rock formation that was discovered a couple years ago off the coast of Japan that shows signs of human ingenuity was at one time above water around ten thousand years ago.
I don't believe what is described in the bible is a mirror image of how it happened, to me that flood story in the bible was a story of our archaic past that was passed down from generation to generation.
This knowledge of pyramid building that spans the entire globe just screams out to me that at one time in our distant past there was worldwide communication between civilizations.

proppers proppers - the only thing that need adding here is that i think the bible is just distorted/erroneous - the story is still in there but a lot of it may have been lost in translation etc - cos it really is simply toooo detailed for it to be fable

 

[AtomAnt]

you seem very patronizing and presumptuous. thats not good character traits if you want to call yourself teaching me.

i do not know your background neither do you know mine. so i do not make assumptions about anyone or say words about people's intellectual performance.

that seems to be elite and superior behavior; something i'm not into at all.

i admire humble individuals.

i do well to disagree with your patronizing.

and if you want to talk about 'tripping': 'kemetian' is a modern day invention and is false when we refer to the ancients.

it is a corruption of a what is represented as 'kmt', therefore false.

i am not about pointing out people's mistake though.

my bad - i just felt it was too good that you were so close to it and yet...

 

[smokedacane]

proppers proppers - the only thing that need adding here is that i think the bible is just distorted/erroneous - the story is still in there but a lot of it may have been lost in translation etc - cos it really is simply toooo detailed for it to be fable

I'm aware of that.



The bible is filled with fanciful stories that are meant to teach, but in some instances I think there is fact in some of the scripture.

 

[DaleMabry]

How did the Incas, Mayans, and Aztecs become so advanced?

North America is a vast continent..how is it that the civilizations of the Yucatan Peninsula, etc, become so much more knowledgeable than other "native americans" like the eskimos..

How did the Aztecs know so much?

What is our level of understanding of the Mayans?

Was it guesswork, etc etc...

Why are you consistently trying to discredit Diop's work AtomAnt?

Simple. It all boils down to the Egyptian concept of As Above, So Below.

1. Egypt is very flat and has a crystal clear view of the sky. Egyptians over time used the mathematical order of the stars as a conceptual stepping stone for advancing their own understanding of mathematics. Mathematics is the foundation of the Universe and Egypt understood that well.

2. Egyptians were dedicated students of nature and they would make the connection between principles espoused by nature, animals, plants and the heavens, and the application of these principles in the works of men. There is no better teacher than Nature, if you respect her and accept her teachings.

(This have nothing to do with As Above, So Below but...)

3. Egypt was the closest African nation to several other "great" (in terms of centralized authority, cultural and economic reach, etc.) civilizations--Sumeria, India, Akkadia, Persia, etc. and thus had to compete economically and militarily with them.

 

[AtomAnt]

I'm aware of that.
The bible is filled with fanciful stories that are meant to teach, but in some instances I think there is fact in some of the scripture.

alright but if i may ask you how and perhaps why was the great pyramids written out of the bible or would you say that the pyramids are in there just covered up

 

[nyeleman]

Well the Thoth Tablets of Emerald are said to be the oldest books in world history . I haven't bothered to read them but i am told the were revered by the Egyptians and give credit to learning a lot from these books. They give a story that is parallel to the book of enoch and biblical events of a pre flood civilisation that was destroyed. Some people speculate that Thoth was actually one of the fallen angels that was banished from heaven. Though this is not popular information with egytophiles who do not want to believe there is a higher power out there. One thing is clear though there is definately a link between the majority of world civilisations with astronomy , religion and some deities teaching them. There is a lot of proof and truths that are suppressed by People in high places, their behaviour shows that there is some truth in findings of people like Graham Hancock.

 

[AtomAnt]

...1. Egypt is very flat...

Ummm... upper and lower egypt!... flat?!?