Falcons release seven players, including Crumpler

[Blunt]

I swear I think you write S*** in threads just to get abused. Are you a closet masochist?!?!

You can't "abuse" someone just because they disagree with you.

Alge was a pro bowl player in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006. Then, VICK was throwing to him.

Did I not say he had a lot of talent and hype? (Though he also came up short frequently in the clutch.) Only had one really big pass-catching year. He's replaceable (for a cheaper price) on a team that's going nowhere anyway.

The whole Atlanta offense suffered without Vick this year. How the F*** is he on the downside after having 1 bad year - which he had 3 different QB's throwing to him?!?!?

Vick throwing to you is not a PLUS.

Dude will be 31 in December. His best days are likely behind him, at least with Atlanta. Nothin' wrong with movin' on before it gets ugly. All teams are willing to unload their "stars" at the appropriate moment.

 

[thetipisthick]

Panthers interested in trading RB Foster, sources say

By Pat Yasinskas
ESPN.com
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Updated: February 14, 2008, 10:19 PM ET

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The Carolina Panthers are shopping running back DeShaun Foster for a trade, several sources around the league told ESPN.com on Thursday night.

DeShaun Foster

Foster

Panthers general manager Marty Hurney declined comment as he does on all potential personnel moves. Foster was not available for comment and his agent Joby Branion did not immediately return a call.

There had been speculation that Foster, 28, could be a salary cap casualty, but it appears the Panthers believe they can get something in return for their leading rusher from last season. Foster is heading into the last season of a three-year, $14.5 million contract extension he signed in 2006 and he's scheduled to have a whopping $5.8 million salary cap figure in 2008.

The sources said several teams have expressed interest in Foster, but wouldn't specify which ones. If Foster has any say, he might end up with a team on the West Coast because he grew up in California. A combination of several injuries and having to play behind Stephen Davis early in his career have kept Foster from ever becoming the true feature back the Panthers thought they were getting when they selected him in the second round out of UCLA in 2002.

Foster played a 16-game season for the first time in his career in 2007 and had a career-high 247 carries, but averaged only 3.5 yards and scored three touchdowns. After struggling to run the ball with any consistency the last two seasons, the Panthers have pledged to have a more productive ground game in 2008.

It appears they believe they can do that without Foster. DeAngelo Williams, a first-round pick in 2006, has played behind Foster the last two seasons and has shown promise he can be a breakaway threat.

Williams got only 144 carries last season, but averaged 5.0 yards a carry with four rushing touchdowns and also caught 23 passes for 175 yards and a touchdown. There are some concerns about Williams, 5-foot-9 and 217 pounds, being able to perform as an every-down back, but the Panthers clearly would like to get him on the field more often than last year.

It's possible Carolina could look in free agency or the college draft to find a bigger back to complement Williams.

 

[YH Dafirm Diplomat]

deshaun foster.....to ny?!?!?!

 

[Brown Hornet]

The Eagles need a good TE very badly, they should try and get Crumpler. LJ Smith is bullshit.

 

[nyyyyce]

You can't "abuse" someone just because they disagree with you.

You intentionally write things to be controversial. I, unlike most people have not put you on ignore, because there is, sometimes, the faintest hint of semi-coherent non-bias truth to you stances. Emphasis on sometimes. Therefore, it is not a matter of you agreeing with me that make you a masochist it that your statements TOTALLY WRONG and you bypass relavet conterponts and ignore facts jsut to write something back. Like in this post.

4 pro bowls, and he misses one year, and thats because Vick is NOT there. You can argue with everyone - and you do - but most of the time you are statistically and factually wrong but you will assume the same falty postion regardless.



Did I not say he had a lot of talent and hype? (Though he also came up short frequently in the clutch.) Only had one really big pass-catching year. He's replaceable (for a cheaper price) on a team that's going nowhere anyway.


No, what you did say is that he was on the down side of his career. Again, You are basing that off of THIS YEAR. Why are you avoiding that fact. This year sucked for the entire offense. The coach left. The backup was sidelined for the year. They brought in Leftwich, Joey sucked - and you still steadfastly say Crumpler is on the downside?!?! C'mon...damn. I know you won't but if you would just acknowledge that you are being obtuse as a strategy I will try to respect you some...



Vick throwing to you is not a PLUS.

That was a low and dumb@$$ cheap shot.1# pick in the draft, made Crumpler a prow bowler, NFC champion, playoff contender. This is exactly what I mean. Your logic does not stand up to FACTS.

Dude will be 31 in December. His best days are likely behind him, at least with Atlanta. Nothin' wrong with movin' on before it gets ugly. All teams are willing to unload their "stars" at the appropriate moment.

How do you know his best days are behind him? Were Brett Favre's best years behind him? Crumpler is not Bret but you just never know.

see retorts in blue above^^^

 

[HellBoy]

Maybe as a life long Falcons fan you would hate to see Crumpler go, but you all have to admit dude was slipping. Every year he came back bigger and slower. Hopefully this will be a wakeup call for him and he will GET IN SHAPE in the off season.

Im guessing the management in Atlanta are watching whats going on in Miami and taking notes.

Fan favorites make equal short term sales, but losing games hurts their pockets.

 

[IGet$$]

Coleman is supposed to Sign wit Tampa Bay some time next week

 

[FiveKnuckleShuffle]

The Falcons were trash this year.

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

Crumpler is a Madden All-star!!! (fuck EA by the way though). But I've never really seen him do all that much in real life, he wasn't bad but he wasn't all the great imo. Keeping Harrington (as a backup) is good...Harrington had a whole bunch of bad games and a few decent ones while Leftwich just had a whole bunch of bad games and got injured out as usual. Redman didn't look bad in there last game so maybe he can prove something.​

 

[moblack]

They're cleaning up that cap space.

 

[bfreezy]

Why in the hell did they release Crumpler
I don't get it.

HNIC

even the HNIC knows its fucked up!

Real talk, Crumpler is/was their best receiver, TE or otherwise. Word was, he was the only one with strong enough hands to hold onto Vick's lazer throws. But with no Vick for a long time to come maybe they're trying to free up cap space. I would traded him but don't know the details of his contract.

I predict next year the Dolphins will have a better record than the Falcons!

 

[DiamondDeuce]

Crumpler's been an underachiever (given his talent and hype) and is on the downside of his career. He and the Falcons needed a divorce.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Alge has earned 5 consecutive Pro Bowl honors (2003-2007), and has been the receiving leader for the Atlanta Falcons for two straight seasons. In 2005, Crumpler set the Falcons' single-season record for catches (65) and receiving yards (877) by a tight end

 

[bfreezy]

They're cleaning up that cap space.

For what? for who? Who's on the free agent market good enough to make room for? And McFadden will NOT drop down to them in the draft.

Rest assured if Bill Parcells had gotten the GM job he wouldn't have let go of Crumpler...Leftwich maybe, but the best receiver on the squad? fuck no

If Crumpler gets picked up by any squad with a half decent quarterback & o-line, he will make it to his 6th pro bowl.

 

[Blunt]

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Alge has earned 5 consecutive Pro Bowl honors (2003-2007), and has been the receiving leader for the Atlanta Falcons for two straight seasons. In 2005, Crumpler set the Falcons' single-season record for catches (65) and receiving yards (877) by a tight end

Pro Bowls are earned on reputation as much as talent. He's always been highly-regarded, though hasn't always delivered. As I stated earlier, he's only had one really good receiving year. (Of course, he was also stuck with Vick at QB.)

No one said he wasn't a talent, just that it's no surprise to see him cut loose at age 30 after a down year. Chances are you won't get much out of him with this particular rebuilding squad in the near future, so why waste money? Do you understand the football BUSINESS?

 

[daakcyde]

man WTF ARE THE FALCONS DOING???!!!!

the goal is still to win games, right, or am i missing something?

shit done gone to hell in less than a year, all because of some fucking dogfighting?

the Falcons are a damn expansion team now...

 

[nyyyyce]

Pro Bowls are earned on reputation as much as talent. He's always been highly-regarded, though hasn't always delivered. As I stated earlier, he's only had one really good receiving year. (Of course, he was also stuck with Vick at QB.)

No one said he wasn't a talent, just that it's no surprise to see him cut loose at age 30 after a down year. Chances are you won't get much out of him with this particular rebuilding squad in the near future, so why waste money? Do you understand the football BUSINESS?

This is EXACTLY what I mean. Your original excuse for why parting with Crumpler was no big deal was:

1. "Crumpler's been an underachiever (given his talent and hype) and is on the downside of his career."

Consecutive pro-bowls OR being recognized as THE BEST at you position means nothing to you but it does in the eyes of his peers and is an incentive in contracts. These are FACTS. Your "speculation" about popularity and obligatory refuting is useless.

2. Having Michal Vick throw to you is "not a plus". Again

As pointed out in another post Crumpler, in 2005, set the Falcons' single-season record for catches (65) and receiving yards (877) by a tight end. So, to the great Blunt, Vick's passes mean nothing but to Crumpler it was the first time in the Falcons franchise HISTORY such an accomplishment by a tight end had ever been achieved. Somebody had to throw the ball to Crumpler to help him set this record...right? If was Mike F-N Vick. These are FACTS. Your rationale and argument shifts in every post but nothing is factual.

OK, you don't like Vick. You don't think that Alge is any good. Cool. Your twisted logic in making your case is faulty - which is not cool. If your going to hate at least hate right!

 

[Enigma]

Releasing Crumpler, Coleman, and Leftwich will come back to bite the Falcons organization in the ass sooner or later.

I am a deep Falcons fan but I wasnt too upset by this move... I mean in terms of Atlanta sports this move is not even CLOSE to what happened when Nique was traded from the Hawks...

This move makes sense for this reason alone, we werent doing shit with NONE of the players on this team.. The Falcons were always a BAD team with ONE AMAZING player in M.Vick, he made this franchise the talk of the NFL while he played and without him we look like an arena league team. We starting out fresh and trying this shit again.. The Vick era is over and all his court is now being removed.

 

[DANGEROUSBLACKMAN]

This Is Good They Need To Start Fresh.

 

[head214]

You fellas think this is the start of some major moves by all teams for next season? I mean man come on Crumpler? What in the great heck are they thinking about around that camp? Next thing you know they are gonna go 4-12. Got a feeling some powerhouses are going to make some drastic calls this year too. League might look different next year fellas. Gambling man's paradise.

 

[sqush]

They released Crumpler? Damn, that was stupid...

 

[max-dawg]

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Alge has earned 5 consecutive Pro Bowl honors (2003-2007), and has been the receiving leader for the Atlanta Falcons for two straight seasons. In 2005, Crumpler set the Falcons' single-season record for catches (65) and receiving yards (877) by a tight end

man, don't read the stupid shit by blunt.

 

[Blunt]

This is EXACTLY what I mean. Your original excuse for why parting with Crumpler was no big deal was:

1. "Crumpler's been an underachiever (given his talent and hype) and is on the downside of his career."

All TRUE. He had a down, injury-riddled year last year and is over 30 ... and he's costing them $5M against the cap. Which part of that don't you understand? He's not worth the money (to a rebuilding team) at this point.

Consecutive pro-bowls OR being recognized as THE BEST at you position means nothing to you but it does in the eyes of his peers and is an incentive in contracts. These are FACTS. Your "speculation" about popularity and obligatory refuting is useless.

Again, no one said he wasn't a "nice," highly-regarded player with a good reputation. But those types of players get released all the time for age and money reasons. Which part of that don't you get?

2. Having Michal Vick throw to you is "not a plus".

Uhh, yeah. Vick is a lousy passer. Crumpler might've lived up to his hype (as a great TE, rather than just a good one) with a better QB. He may yet get the chance, if he's healthy.

As pointed out in another post Crumpler, in 2005, set the Falcons' single-season record for catches (65) and receiving yards (877) by a tight end. So, to the great Blunt, Vick's passes mean nothing but to Crumpler it was the first time in the Falcons franchise HISTORY such an accomplishment by a tight end had ever been achieved.

Very nice for a FALCONS tight end, but far from the best for an NFL tight end. Considering he's their #1 receiver he should catch a lot of balls, but with a better QB he'd have caught 90.

Somebody had to throw the ball to Crumpler to help him set this record...right? If was Mike F-N Vick. These are FACTS. Your rationale and argument shifts in every post but nothing is factual.

65 catches is NOT a lot of catches, even for a tight end. Owning a Falcons record isn't really saying much. Someone had to catch the ball on that team. Even with a lousy 53% completion rate Vick is still gonna connect with someone.

=OK, you don't like Vick. You don't think that Alge is any good. Cool. Your twisted logic in making your case is faulty - which is not cool. If your going to hate at least hate right!

Not sure what you're talking about. I'll repeat for the upteenth time. Crumpler had his day, but is now too expensive and old to keep (on a rebuilding team). How hard is that to grasp? He's not gonna help the franchise at this point, though the money will.

Vick is not a good passer. Which part don't you get?

 

[Esquire1978]

crumpler Will Be A Panther Next Year

Yup...and he'll probably have 62 receptions for 800-900 yards and 10 TDs.

Our organization is a fucking joke! Cut Crump but keep Brooking right?

 

[Esquire1978]

Folks saying Crump fell off this year need to consider

1) The QBs we had...

2) Petrino and his system in which he openly stated the Tight End was not utilized in the passing game b/c he liked to go downfield.

I don't know what direction we're moving in but when we make the mistake of drafting Matt Ryan next season and proceed to lose at least 11 games again...while Alge prospers like Patrick Kerney did this year...we'll continue to see why the Falcons are one of the biggest jokes in the NFL.

 

[DV8ed]

Before I read past Crumpler, I bet the Falcons kept Keith Brooking, aka "Mr. Middle Linebacker that can only make a tackle after he gains 5 yards".