Breaking News: Gasol Traded To Lakers

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Breaking News: Gasol Traded To Lakers
February 1, 2008 - 2:41 pm
Memphis Commerical Appeal -
The Commercial Appeal has learned that the Grizzlies have traded Pau Gasol to the Los Angeles Lakers for center Kwame Brown, rookie guard Javaris Crittenton and first-round draft picks in 2008 and 2010.

The decision was made that the Grizzlies could no longer move forward with Gasol on and off the basketball court.

The deal allows the Grizzlies to gain salary cap relief, as Brown is in the final year of a deal that pays $9,075,000.

 

[cranrab]

poor euro bastard. only 27 and destined to be a perennial scapegoat.

 

[xfactor]

poor euro bastard. only 27 and destined to be a perennial scapegoat.

3 straight playoff sweeps

And the lakers' fans think he is going to carry them to the championship.

 

[MoneyInTheBank]

 

[mindstretcher]

unbelievable.

and they got rid of kwame brown too. this is a win win for the lakers. i dont know what you guys are talking about i like this trade for the lakers.

bynum, gasol and oden in the front court... damn!!

 

[cranrab]

bynum, gasol and oden in the front court... damn!!

whoa there, buddy. you've gotten ahead of yourself.

 

[xfactor]

bynum, gasol and oden in the front court... damn!!

@ that.

The delusions of grandeur never seem to leave the mindset of lakers' fans.

Might be why Kupcake made this deal. Once GO comes back healthy, the Trail Blazers will immediately leapfrog over the lakers...Which is already the case, in my opinion.

Sucks to be a lakers fan. Mo' money (spent out) Mo' problems (no rings)

 

[ShadyPat]

what the hell was Memphis thinking they could at least asked for Lamar Odom....Teams in the Nba just try to make each other better...but i wanna see what the lakers are going to do now.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

unbelievable.

and they got rid of kwame brown too. this is a win win for the lakers. i dont know what you guys are talking about i like this trade for the lakers.

bynum, gasol and oden in the front court... damn!!

I think he meant Odom.

 

[RunawaySlave]

Interesting trade. Look like the Lakers are trying to go small like Phoenix. Now if they go with Gashole at center and O-dum at PF they can matchup with Amare and Marion

and they'll still be able to go big when Bynum gets back in the lineup

 

[xfactor]

and they'll still be able to go big when Bynum gets back in the lineup

From what I heard tonight, Bynum is a finger pinch close from being ruled OUT for the rest of the season.

I'm sure cranrab can verify since he lives in LA.

 

[Spectrum]

whoa there, buddy. you've gotten ahead of yourself.

 

[mindstretcher]

my mistake i did mean odom.

nonetheless i think they are instant contenders now in the west. plus they give up almost nothing for gasol. mckie? brown? crittenton? two picks? there had to been a better deal out there for the grizzlies. unless marc gasol is tearing it up in europe that i dont know about, they didnt even get a promising prospect in return. smh.

lastly, odom maybe even expendable now too.

 

[DANGEROUSBLACKMAN]

The Lakers Should Be Favored In The West Now.

 

[nocodename]

unbelievable.

and they got rid of kwame brown too. this is a win win for the lakers. i dont know what you guys are talking about i like this trade for the lakers.

bynum, gasol and oden in the front court... damn!!

Yep, the lakers got something nothing.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

my mistake i did mean odom.

nonetheless i think they are instant contenders now in the west. plus they give up almost nothing for gasol. mckie? brown? crittenton? two picks? there had to been a better deal out there for the grizzlies. unless marc gasol is tearing it up in europe that i dont know about, they didnt even get a promising prospect in return. smh.

lastly, odom maybe even expendable now too.

Why would you get rid of Odom when he is one of the main components of the triangle offense? Gasol is a GOOD post player, but is robotic and soft as virgin nappy. He just needs to know his role and play within the offense...but DON'T expect much from a defensive standpoint.

 

[cranrab]

plus they give up almost nothing for gasol. mckie? brown? crittenton? two picks? there had to been a better deal out there for the grizzlies. unless marc gasol is tearing it up in europe that i dont know about, they didnt even get a promising prospect in return.

it's a SAD but well known fact that the current owner of the grizzlies is carrying out a "scorched earth" campaign on the organization.

he has been trying to sell the franchise for a LONG time and hasn't found any takers. so he is reducing payroll (front office AND player personnel) in order to reduce costs.

don't buy into this bullshit spin about "building for the future" with draft picks and salary cap space. he's PURPOSELY leaving current players and fans hanging out to dry.

this is EXACTLY the reason why i'm AGAINST contract buyouts, because it gives unscrupulous owners a get-out-of-jail free card in the sense that they have NO obligation (beyond the bottom line) to support the welfare of the TEAM.

 

[cranrab]

Why would you get rid of Odom when he is one of the main components of the triangle offense? Gasol is a GOOD post player, but is robotic and soft as virgin nappy.

as tobe remarked himself yesterday, it appears "on paper" that the fakers have all the necessary components to run the O to perfection.

tobe can continue to chuck 3 pt. FGAs, pau gasol will be their FIRST TRUE post scorer since shaquille o'neal left, and lamar odom can now play to his strength: slashing from the foul line.

inside/outside complete. ON PAPER. it will be interesting to see what pau gasol's learning curve on the triangle will be, and also a great opportunity to observe his passing ability (both mechanics and cerebral).

andrew bynum's blind spot is still his strength issues. he can do well against PFs pretending to be Cs, but struggles to hold his spot against true Cs.

 

[mindstretcher]

Why would you get rid of Odom when he is one of the main components of the triangle offense? Gasol is a GOOD post player, but is robotic and soft as virgin nappy. He just needs to know his role and play within the offense...but DON'T expect much from a defensive standpoint.

i dont know, defensively i dont think odom has the lateral quicks to guard the 3 spot.

but than again, there isnt as many slashing sf's in the west as there are in the east, so him playing the 3 might work.

they probably wont trade him but to me he is now the most expendable 'talented' laker on the team.

 

[Sango]

I think this is a good trade in getting rid of Kwame Bum, but
they gave up so much for Gasol. He's not a tough post presence,
yet this gives the Lakers a decent scoring option down low...

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

AS a side note: I wonder how Jermaine Oneal feels about this right now? I know he wanted to go there, and he is a free agent this summer.

If I was K.G., I would put the bug in his ear right now to play center for the C's next year.

 

[LordSinister]

as tobe remarked himself yesterday, it appears "on paper" that the fakers have all the necessary components to run the O to perfection.

tobe can continue to chuck 3 pt. FGAs, pau gasol will be their FIRST TRUE post scorer since shaquille o'neal left, and lamar odom can now play to his strength: slashing from the foul line.

inside/outside complete. ON PAPER. it will be interesting to see what pau gasol's learning curve on the triangle will be, and also a great opportunity to observe his passing ability (both mechanics and cerebral).

andrew bynum's blind spot is still his strength issues. he can do well against PFs pretending to be Cs, but struggles to hold his spot against true Cs.

 

[cranrab]

LS,

what's so funny?

any objective person knows that when given a choice, tobe takes the coward's way out to avoid penetration.

amongst all positions, tobe is 20th in 3FGA attempts, but only 36th in 3FGA makes.

amongst all guards, tobe is 14th in 3FGA attempts, but only 26th in 3FGA makes.

amongst all guards, tobe is 79th in 3FG%. clearly his shooting percentage DOES NOT warrant all those attempts.

and as always, TO BE FAIR AND PROVIDE PERSPECTIVE, clearly superior shooter jason richardson is 1st in 3FGA attempts AND 1st in 3FGA makes. clearly superior shooter ray allen is 2nd in 3FGA attempts AND 2nd in 3FGA makes.

 

[Diamels]

any objective person knows that when given a choice, tobe takes the coward's way out to avoid penetration.

Phil has begged Kobe to "To be more aggressive" for years...

 

[TrojansFan]

LS,

what's so funny?

any objective person knows that when given a choice, tobe takes the coward's way out to avoid penetration.

amongst all positions, tobe is 20th in 3FGA attempts, but only 36th in 3FGA makes.

amongst all guards, tobe is 14th in 3FGA attempts, but only 26th in 3FGA makes.

amongst all guards, tobe is 79th in 3FG%. clearly his shooting percentage DOES NOT warrant all those attempts.

and as always, TO BE FAIR AND PROVIDE PERSPECTIVE, clearly superior shooter jason richardson is 1st in 3FGA attempts AND 1st in 3FGA makes. clearly superior shooter ray allen is 2nd in 3FGA attempts AND 2nd in 3FGA makes.

WHAT'S FUNNY IS BRINGING UP 3FG ATTEMPTS & 3 FG MAKES!!!

WHO GIVES A FUCK? HE IS LEADING HIS TEAM IN SCORING, ASSITS, STEALS AND THEY ARE IN 1ST PLACE!!!

ONLY SOMEBODY HE IS LOOKING FOR A REASON TO HATE ON KOBE OR LAKERS WOULD BE BRINGING UP SOMETHING LIKE 3PT ATTEMPTS AT THIS POINT! And calling him a coward who looks to avoid penetration is a moronic statement! When you look at all your stats I'm sure you know he is amongst the league leaders in FT attempts. (Gee I wonder do you get fouled shooting 3's or by penetrating )

GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!

 

[xfactor]

WHAT'S FUNNY IS BRINGING UP 3FG ATTEMPTS & 3 FG MAKES!!!

Probably because he brought up the fact that Wobe's game is to chuck long jumpers from the perimeter.


The problem with that is he's not a good enough long range shooter to be doing that.

WHO GIVES A FUCK? HE IS LEADING HIS TEAM IN SCORING, ASSITS, STEALS AND THEY ARE IN 1ST PLACE!!!

For a guard that dominates the ball as much as him, anything less wouldn't be acceptable.

As far as the steals, anyone that doesn't know how to play proper man to man D and floats around in the passing lanes will pick up steals during a game.

ONLY SOMEBODY HE IS LOOKING FOR A REASON TO HATE ON KOBE OR LAKERS WOULD BE BRINGING UP SOMETHING LIKE 3PT ATTEMPTS AT THIS POINT! And calling him a coward who looks to avoid penetration is a moronic statement!

Just because you don't agree with the rest of the mindless drones, you're a hater?

Bryant rarely goes to the basket so how is it a moronic statement? The only moron is you or any other person that tries to comment when they don't even watch games.

When you look at all your stats I'm sure you know he is amongst the league leaders in FT attempts. (Gee I wonder do you get fouled shooting 3's or by penetrating )

If the NBA didn't call hand-checking on the perimeter, his FTA would drastically decrease.

GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!

Yet you are vehemently defending a player and team you only watch from your knees? Gtfoh clown

 

[cranrab]

WHAT'S FUNNY IS BRINGING UP 3FG ATTEMPTS & 3 FG MAKES!

still skipping your ESL classes i see, eh, armenian?

i guess your mythical degree from the very fine alleged HBCU isn't worth very much considering you weren't able to READ lord sinister's reply where he BOLDED "chuck 3 pt." FGAs.

and at the same time. you're truly pitiful.

WHO GIVES A FUCK? HE IS LEADING HIS TEAM IN SCORING, ASSITS, STEALS AND THEY ARE IN 1ST PLACE!

look at the bitch made ladyboy got his skirt in a ruffle. all caps? you sensitive cake boys are a joke.

And calling him a coward who looks to avoid penetration is a moronic statement!

sorry you can't handle the truth, tinkerbell. 25% of tobe's shots are from behind the arc. now go back under your rock and try to rationalize that FACT.

When you look at all your stats I'm sure you know he is amongst the league leaders in FT attempts.

listen, HNIC made SOL (and hopefully BNOL) for tendercrisp batty boys like you. why don't you go play over there and leave grown men to talk?

you OBVIOUSLY never watch the fakers (or tobe) PLAY THE ACTUAL GAME. tobe doesn't pick up the majority of his FTAs off of penetration, they come from his multiple pump fakes and gimmick clearouts where he creates the contact by swinging the ball through.



you're welcome on the SPORTS board because lord knows i enjoy diverse opinions, but how about WATCHING some basketball for a change before you run your STUPID UNEDUCATED mouth here?

 

[cranrab]

I'm sure you know he is amongst the league leaders in FT attempts. (Gee I wonder do you get fouled shooting 3's or by penetrating )

i had to create a separate reply for this dumb shit right here.

you see, your SIMPLE ass (like 99.9% of ALL tobe fans) prefers to make PROFOUNDLY STUPID (and more importantly, COMPLETELY INCORRECT) assumptions about tobe's game.

for example: you have falsely assumed that tobe's FTAs are necessarily a result of his penetration.

i have already explained the FACT that most of tobe's FTAs are a result of his boring and bullshit bailouts resulting from his typical robotic euro multiple pump and head fakes when shooting midrange jump shots.

i have already explained the FACT that 25% of tobe's FGAs are from behind the arc.

players who GENUINELY EARN FTAs from penetration are individuals like allen iverson, who only shoots 16% of his FGAs from behind the arc, but is THIRD overall in FTAs.

players who GENUINELY EARN FTAs from penetration are individuals like dwyane wade, who only shoots 8% of his FGAs from behind the arc, but is FOURTH overall in FTAs.

but all that is lost on tobe's rainbow nation twinks; simps like you have no appreciation for lunch pail players who are willing to attack the D in the lane. you prefer soft primadonna players who hoist jumpers over the top of the D. we get it.

sad m.f.s like you don't get excited about THE GAME, you get excited about when the players wear the throwback uniforms.

 

[xfactor]

Yeah it is funny isn't it?

@ the lakers' perimeter defense.

@ people thinking the lakers can win the title.

@ the Wobe "the TO machine"

@ how bad pau gasol's low post D is.

@ phil jackson trying to coach from a fuckin' throne.

And last but not least...

@ the 10 game win streak going bye bye

 

[TimRock]

Yeah it is funny isn't it?

@ the lakers' perimeter defense.

@ people thinking the lakers can win the title.

@ the Wobe "the TO machine"

@ how bad pau gasol's low post D is.

@ phil jackson trying to coach from a fuckin' throne.

And last but not least...

@ the 10 game win streak going bye bye

@ The Suns record since not only having Shaq in the lineup, but since announcing that they traded for him.

@ the Suns all around defense (philly comes to Phoenix and wins)

@ The Suns not even able to come up with a 3 game win streak since Shaq arrived.

@ Phoenixs' record against the west compared to the other top 7 playoff teams.

@ Mike for not having a deep enough bench.

@

The problem with the Suns is the careless play Nash has had in recent games and D'Antoni's lack of making the adjustments.

 

[xfactor]

@ The Suns record since not only having Shaq in the lineup, but since announcing that they traded for him.

@ the Suns all around defense (philly comes to Phoenix and wins)

@ The Suns not even able to come up with a 3 game win streak since Shaq arrived.

@ Phoenixs' record against the west compared to the other top 7 playoff teams.

@ Mike for not having a deep enough bench.

@

Good to see you back Tim, even if you brought my post from another forum over.

The Suns will be OK and better than the lakers if D'Antoni gets off his high horse. A smart coach knows he has to adjust to his personnel and Phoenix has to get O'Neal involved more in the offense. O'Neal is grabbing boards and providing a solid anchor for the defense and that will be huge for them come playoff time.

Did you see them play last night? They blew a 23 point lead but were able to keep their composure down the stretch to pull out the victory against one of the top home teams in the NBA.

And I can tell you one thing, Grant Hill is a beast. As a fan of the game, I'm glad he kept with it, and his strong play this year is one of the reasons Phoenix had no problem trading Marion.

For the sake of the Wobe STANS, I hope that the Suns and lakers meet in the playoffs and Shaq once again shows that Wobe is not, never has been, and never will be good enough to win the title without him.

On another note - When's Bynum coming back? Just in time to wreck the team's current chemistry?

 

[TimRock]

On another note - When's Bynum coming back? Just in time to wreck the team's current chemistry?

Like Shaq is doing over there in Phoenix. Beat Denver tonight and i will be impressed. Dont worry, if hes healthy, he will be back. Im sure Shaq doesnt want to deal with Big Bynum.

For the sake of the Wobe STANS, I hope that the Suns and lakers meet in the playoffs and Shaq once again shows that Wobe is not, never has been, and never will be good enough to win the title without him.

As it seems now, the Suns would have to get by New Orleans, a team who swept them this season. (the suns are lucky Minnesota's not in the playoffs, they lost TWICE to them this season)

And I can tell you one thing, Grant Hill is a beast. As a fan of the game, I'm glad he kept with it, and his strong play this year is one of the reasons Phoenix had no problem trading Marion.

He's been impressive, but too bad he cant defend like Marion.

 

[xfactor]

Like Shaq is doing over there in Phoenix. Beat Denver tonight and i will be impressed. Dont worry, if hes healthy, he will be back. Im sure Shaq doesnt want to deal with Big Bynum.

And the win against Portland wasn't note worthy?

I disagree with Shaq wrecking chemistry. D'Antoni is so stubborn in his ways, and he is the main reason the team is going to struggle down the stretch. It took him after tonight's game just to acknowledge that he needs to lengthen his rotation. Damn near 60+ games in

I'm sure Shaq isn't concerned with Bynum, and if I were him, I'd shut it down until I was 100%. No need to rush back just to get put out in the 1st round of the playoffs again...Causing further damage to the knee.

As it seems now, the Suns would have to get by New Orleans, a team who swept them this season. (the suns are lucky Minnesota's not in the playoffs, they lost TWICE to them this season)

C'mon now Tim. The Cavaliers swept the Spurs during the regular season last year and we all saw how that impacted the Finals

Regular season success has ZERO impact on the post season other than seeding.

He's been impressive, but too bad he cant defend like Marion.

During the regular season or the playoffs? Because I always remembered Marion's numbers taking a nose dive during the post season, as well as playing mediocre D.

I think Hill will be ready to step up to the challenge.

 

[cranrab]

From what I heard tonight, Bynum is a finger pinch close from being ruled OUT for the rest of the season.

i'd always heard april 13th thrown around as the return date.

here's the latest:

Lakers don't expect Bynum back until playoffs
Associated Press

Updated: March 18, 2008, 8:05 PM EST

The Lakers have finally put a timetable on the return of Andrew Bynum: probably the first round of the playoffs.
Bynum has been out since Jan. 13, when he dislocated his left kneecap and bruised a bone landing on a teammate's foot while going for a rebound. The Lakers haven't been more specific about his recovery than saying he would be out for at least eight weeks.

But before the Lakers played the Mavericks on Tuesday night, coach Phil Jackson said he's not expecting the 20-year-old center to return until the playoffs begin the weekend of April 18-19.

"It's all about swelling, the pounding you take day to day," Jackson said. "He continually battles that. So it could be a couple, three weeks before he's doing some things on the court."

Going into the Mavs game, Los Angeles was 20-10 without Bynum, helped by the addition of Pau Gasol. The Lakers would probably rather not wait until the postseason to get them playing together, but it looks like they might not have a choice.

In his third year, Bynum is averaging 13.1 points, 10.2 rebounds and 2.06 blocked shots. He was leading the NBA in field goal percentage (63.6 percent) and was among the best in rebounds and blocks when he got hurt.

 

[xfactor]

^^^

Yeah... I heard the injury was a lot worse than the lakers were letting on and they knew early that he would miss the rest of the regular season.

I think bringing him back in the post-season would cause more harm than being helpful but as the lakers have shown the past 4 years, without a strong post presence, they just aren't good enough to compete in the playoffs. Which is a shock being that they have the "best player in NBA History"