Why are Hispanics not voting Obama???
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I am glad that darkness is coming to light. More and more blacks are seeing that Latinos (PR, DR, and Mexicans) are not our friends. Ricans are racist too. For those that keep believing that they are the only cool Latin group.
But what kills me are those Tom negroes on this board and society that keep pushing this Black/Brown unity illusion or bullshit. You make me sick. I sense making money is at hand for some.
1) One of the reasons that there can't be black brown unity is the fact that the majority of Latinos look down upon and despise blacks.
I can't work with people who looks down on & has contempt for me. We won't get along.
2) Besides immigration, Latinos have no record of fighting for the civil rights of all people. I have never seen a Latino or Asian at any Affirmative Action rally. They have been used to getting things they have not fought for (Civil Rights, Affirmative Action, etc.).
Blacks want to do right by all, Latinos only for themselves. So there are already major disagreements. Also, I doubt they have the courage to stand up to whites themselves. They would somehow want us to do all of the work.
3) Latinos and other minority groups always want Black Americans to do the fighting while they reap the benefits. Show me any facts where during the sixties Latinos, Asians, etc. took part in anything. Rallies, protests, sit ins, fighting police etc.
Latinos and Asians, these same minority groups that hate black people, if you didn't know, are gonna come looking to us for friendship when white folks get tired of them. I see it now, many Latinos are nice to me now. Just the other day you had despise on your mind. Now you feeling white peoples' wrath you want to unite.
I can't Put myself on the line for people I know hate me and want my friendship when they can benefit. The reality would be that they're only friends for the time being.
You "we are the world" niggas are declining, you and your messages. Whatever your motives are for rainbow coalition are fading. Your poisoning our people's minds with that garbage. Knowing damn well Latinos ain't been through shit in this country. You just like those blacks in the 50s and 60s hoping to unite with and find good whites when there really weren't any.
When whites come after these other groups I hope they get you niggas too.
But what kills me are those Tom negroes on this board and society that keep pushing this Black/Brown unity illusion or bullshit. You make me sick. I sense making money is at hand for some.
1) One of the reasons that there can't be black brown unity is the fact that the majority of Latinos look down upon and despise blacks.
I can't work with people who looks down on & has contempt for me. We won't get along.
2) Besides immigration, Latinos have no record of fighting for the civil rights of all people. I have never seen a Latino or Asian at any Affirmative Action rally. They have been used to getting things they have not fought for (Civil Rights, Affirmative Action, etc.).
Blacks want to do right by all, Latinos only for themselves. So there are already major disagreements. Also, I doubt they have the courage to stand up to whites themselves. They would somehow want us to do all of the work.
3) Latinos and other minority groups always want Black Americans to do the fighting while they reap the benefits. Show me any facts where during the sixties Latinos, Asians, etc. took part in anything. Rallies, protests, sit ins, fighting police etc.
Latinos and Asians, these same minority groups that hate black people, if you didn't know, are gonna come looking to us for friendship when white folks get tired of them. I see it now, many Latinos are nice to me now. Just the other day you had despise on your mind. Now you feeling white peoples' wrath you want to unite.
I can't Put myself on the line for people I know hate me and want my friendship when they can benefit. The reality would be that they're only friends for the time being.
You "we are the world" niggas are declining, you and your messages. Whatever your motives are for rainbow coalition are fading. Your poisoning our people's minds with that garbage. Knowing damn well Latinos ain't been through shit in this country. You just like those blacks in the 50s and 60s hoping to unite with and find good whites when there really weren't any.
When whites come after these other groups I hope they get you niggas too.
You Sir have a failed logic towards other races. Just because you have ran into (if you have at all)racism coming from some Hispanics does not give you the right to generalize and throw us all in the same bus.
Furthermore, the way you exploit the struggle of your ancestors to get your hatred across demeans everything they stood for and accomplished. I did not read through this whole thread only the first couple of posts, but it's sad to see the hate coming from the BGOL fam towards my people. . .
Cause they think there Caucasian and secretly look down and want nothing to do with the African American!!!!
Sometimes, I swear you the only nigga in here with common sense.
Cause they think there Caucasian and secretly look down and want nothing to do with the African American!!!!
Y'all don't seem to understand that every race, including ours (if your black), puts their race first. Whats wrong with that? Its human nature, learn to understand that shit! Don't act like you don't do the same shit your complaining Hispanics are doing.
Although you tried to sound like you know what the hell you were talking about you still came out sounding like an ignorant fool, come bruh, get your shit together and...
and stop making it seem like blacks are the victims here...
But Hispanics are known to completely downplay there African heritage. Matter of fact in the Hispanic communities the darker the individual the worst your treated! Thats why Dominicans get such a bad rap in the Hispanic community.
Race plays role as Obama pursues Latinos
He confronts history of often competitive relations between blacks, Latinos
By Adam Nagourney and Jennifer Steinhauer
The New York Times
updated 2:46 a.m. ET, Tues., Jan. 15, 2008
LAS VEGAS - Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has eaten beef tacos in East Los Angeles and sat on the living room couch of a working-class family in a largely Hispanic neighborhood here for 30 televised minutes. At a rally of the culinary workers’ union in the shadows of the Strip here one night, Senator Barack Obama pumped his fist and chanted with the crowd, “¡Sí, se puede; sí, se puede; sí, se puede!” or, “Yes, we can!”
As the Democratic candidates have moved from courting the overwhelmingly white voters of Iowa and New Hampshire to an expanse of 25 contests facing them in the next few weeks, they confront an electorate that is increasingly Hispanic, in Nevada, California and New York.
Although the two candidates aggressively court those voters, who could be vital for Democrats this year and for years to come, the challenge is especially complex for Mr. Obama.
It arises as Mrs. Clinton sought to tamp down reaction from Obama supporters to remarks she had made about the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Mr. Obama confronts a history of often uneasy and competitive relations between blacks and Hispanics, particularly as they have jockeyed for influence in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles and New York.
“Many Latinos are not ready for a person of color,” Natasha Carrillo, 20, of East Los Angeles, said. “I don’t think many Latinos will vote for Obama. There’s always been tension in the black and Latino communities.
There’s still that strong ethnic division. I helped organize citizenship drives, and those who I’ve talked to support Clinton.”
Javier Perez, 30, a former marine, said older Hispanics like his grandmother tended to resist more the notion of supporting an African-American, a trend that he said was changing with younger Hispanics.
“She just became a citizen five years ago,” Mr. Perez said. “Unfortunately, that will play a role in her vote. I do think race will play a part in her decision.”
Mrs. Clinton’s circle of advisers includes New Yorkers steeped in that history. On her first trip after her victory in New Hampshire, Mrs. Clinton flew here, where she was escorted on a tour by prominent Hispanic leaders, including Henry G. Cisneros, a former secretary of housing and urban development, on the “Juntos con Hillary, Una Vida Mejor” tour or “Together With Hillary, a Better Life.”
From here, she flew to a Mexican-American enclave, the East Los Angeles neighborhood, to eat at King Taco, ordered in Spanish by Mayor Antonio R. Villaraigosa, who has emerged as an important supporter.
In Chicago, Mr. Obama was successful in rallying Hispanics to his side and bridging differences with black voters. His success in repeating that is critical.
In 2004, Hispanics accounted for 16 percent of the vote in the California primary; 11 percent in New York, 17 percent in Arizona and 9 percent in Florida.
Should he win the presidential nomination, his success at overcoming the history between the two groups will be critical as the Democrats approach an election in which they are looking to lock up the Hispanic vote for decades to come.
As he campaigned in northern Nevada, Mr. Obama acknowledged the challenges he faced.
“I think it’s important for us to get my record known before the Latino community,” he told reporters. “My history is excellent with Latino supporters back in Illinois, because they knew my record.
“Nationally, people don’t know that record quite as well. So it’s very important for me to communicate that, to advertise on Spanish-speaking television, to make clear my commitments.”
Relations between blacks and Latinos vary from place to place and have evolved over the years. Mr. Villaraigosa lost his first effort to become mayor, in 2001, to a white, James Hahn, who won 80 percent of the black vote. In a rematch in 2005, Mr. Villaraigosa was elected with 50 percent of the black vote.
Mr. Villaraigosa said he did not think that Mrs. Clinton’s strength among Hispanics was a product of tensions between the two groups.
“From my vantage point,” he said Monday, “the strength that Hillary Clinton enjoys among Latinos has everything to do with her track record and her longstanding relationship with that community. I think there are tensions among all groups.”
Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, who just dropped his own campaign to become the first Latino president, said that the rivalry between the two groups had eased and that Mr. Obama could transcend many of the differences as he approached Feb. 5, “what I call the Hispanic primary day.”
He said he might endorse a candidate before Feb. 5, an endorsement that would clearly influence some Hispanics.
If attitudes are shifting, they are moving slowly as so many racial assumptions are challenged.
The Rev. Al Sharpton of New York, who has been on the front line of many of the black-Latino battles in New York politics, said the tension would be a problem for Mr. Obama across the country and in New York, which also votes on Feb. 5. He said Mr. Obama would be at a disadvantage because of his choice to be a “race-neutral candidate.”
“It’s going to be a challenge that he has got to deal with,” Mr. Sharpton said. “There’s a natural history, and we’ve made some progress. But he has not been part of those efforts to make progress.”
In California, Mr. Obama has won backing from Latino lawmakers, some of whom had supwinning rank-and-file voters will be hard, said the State Senate majority leader, Gloria Romero, Democrat of East Los Angeles.
“Do we have a long way to go?” she asked. “Absolutely. I think there are some tensions on questions of immigration and jobs. But I believe that we have moved forward in a way that the community will embrace an African-American president.”
She said the solution to overcoming the tensions was discussing economic problems of middle- and lower-class blacks and Hispanics like the mortgage crisis, an issue that first Mrs. Clinton and now Mr. Obama have been raising more frequency.
“I don’t think eating tacos,” is effective, she said with a flick at Mrs. Clinton. “We need to address what unites us. The key is not to raise the wedge issue.”
Mr. Obama, some party officials and scholars suggested, may face additional difficulty if Hispanic women respond to Mrs. Clinton’s increasingly strong appeal for support based on sex. A rally here Saturday was packed with Hispanic women who shrieked at seeing Mrs. Clinton.
“The Hispanic community is very family oriented, and we respect our mothers,” said Ruben Kihuen, an influential Democratic assemblyman from Las Vegas who supported Mrs. Clinton. “A lot of middle-aged women see her as a mother, a head of the household, and they can identify with this. Especially when they see her daughter, Chelsea, with her.”
The tensions between Hispanics and African-Americans have increased proportionately with the influx of new Hispanics in areas like the Southwest, experts on the relationships said.
Mexican-Americans and other groups have increasingly migrated to traditionally black neighborhoods, the experts said.
“There have been enormous misunderstandings and conflicts over local resources and political representations between the two groups which simmer right below the surface and sometimes erupt,” said Albert M. Camarillo, founding director of the Center for the Comparative Study of Race and Ethnicity at Stanford.
Hispanic voters, Mr. Camarillo said, “might not go into the direction of the Obama camp.”
Copyright © 2008 The New York Times
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22658860/
He confronts history of often competitive relations between blacks, Latinos
By Adam Nagourney and Jennifer Steinhauer
The New York Times
updated 2:46 a.m. ET, Tues., Jan. 15, 2008
LAS VEGAS - Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has eaten beef tacos in East Los Angeles and sat on the living room couch of a working-class family in a largely Hispanic neighborhood here for 30 televised minutes. At a rally of the culinary workers’ union in the shadows of the Strip here one night, Senator Barack Obama pumped his fist and chanted with the crowd, “¡Sí, se puede; sí, se puede; sí, se puede!” or, “Yes, we can!”
As the Democratic candidates have moved from courting the overwhelmingly white voters of Iowa and New Hampshire to an expanse of 25 contests facing them in the next few weeks, they confront an electorate that is increasingly Hispanic, in Nevada, California and New York.
Although the two candidates aggressively court those voters, who could be vital for Democrats this year and for years to come, the challenge is especially complex for Mr. Obama.
It arises as Mrs. Clinton sought to tamp down reaction from Obama supporters to remarks she had made about the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Mr. Obama confronts a history of often uneasy and competitive relations between blacks and Hispanics, particularly as they have jockeyed for influence in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles and New York.
“Many Latinos are not ready for a person of color,” Natasha Carrillo, 20, of East Los Angeles, said. “I don’t think many Latinos will vote for Obama. There’s always been tension in the black and Latino communities.
There’s still that strong ethnic division. I helped organize citizenship drives, and those who I’ve talked to support Clinton.”
Javier Perez, 30, a former marine, said older Hispanics like his grandmother tended to resist more the notion of supporting an African-American, a trend that he said was changing with younger Hispanics.
“She just became a citizen five years ago,” Mr. Perez said. “Unfortunately, that will play a role in her vote. I do think race will play a part in her decision.”
Mrs. Clinton’s circle of advisers includes New Yorkers steeped in that history. On her first trip after her victory in New Hampshire, Mrs. Clinton flew here, where she was escorted on a tour by prominent Hispanic leaders, including Henry G. Cisneros, a former secretary of housing and urban development, on the “Juntos con Hillary, Una Vida Mejor” tour or “Together With Hillary, a Better Life.”
From here, she flew to a Mexican-American enclave, the East Los Angeles neighborhood, to eat at King Taco, ordered in Spanish by Mayor Antonio R. Villaraigosa, who has emerged as an important supporter.
In Chicago, Mr. Obama was successful in rallying Hispanics to his side and bridging differences with black voters. His success in repeating that is critical.
In 2004, Hispanics accounted for 16 percent of the vote in the California primary; 11 percent in New York, 17 percent in Arizona and 9 percent in Florida.
Should he win the presidential nomination, his success at overcoming the history between the two groups will be critical as the Democrats approach an election in which they are looking to lock up the Hispanic vote for decades to come.
As he campaigned in northern Nevada, Mr. Obama acknowledged the challenges he faced.
“I think it’s important for us to get my record known before the Latino community,” he told reporters. “My history is excellent with Latino supporters back in Illinois, because they knew my record.
“Nationally, people don’t know that record quite as well. So it’s very important for me to communicate that, to advertise on Spanish-speaking television, to make clear my commitments.”
Relations between blacks and Latinos vary from place to place and have evolved over the years. Mr. Villaraigosa lost his first effort to become mayor, in 2001, to a white, James Hahn, who won 80 percent of the black vote. In a rematch in 2005, Mr. Villaraigosa was elected with 50 percent of the black vote.
Mr. Villaraigosa said he did not think that Mrs. Clinton’s strength among Hispanics was a product of tensions between the two groups.
“From my vantage point,” he said Monday, “the strength that Hillary Clinton enjoys among Latinos has everything to do with her track record and her longstanding relationship with that community. I think there are tensions among all groups.”
Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, who just dropped his own campaign to become the first Latino president, said that the rivalry between the two groups had eased and that Mr. Obama could transcend many of the differences as he approached Feb. 5, “what I call the Hispanic primary day.”
He said he might endorse a candidate before Feb. 5, an endorsement that would clearly influence some Hispanics.
If attitudes are shifting, they are moving slowly as so many racial assumptions are challenged.
The Rev. Al Sharpton of New York, who has been on the front line of many of the black-Latino battles in New York politics, said the tension would be a problem for Mr. Obama across the country and in New York, which also votes on Feb. 5. He said Mr. Obama would be at a disadvantage because of his choice to be a “race-neutral candidate.”
“It’s going to be a challenge that he has got to deal with,” Mr. Sharpton said. “There’s a natural history, and we’ve made some progress. But he has not been part of those efforts to make progress.”
In California, Mr. Obama has won backing from Latino lawmakers, some of whom had supwinning rank-and-file voters will be hard, said the State Senate majority leader, Gloria Romero, Democrat of East Los Angeles.
“Do we have a long way to go?” she asked. “Absolutely. I think there are some tensions on questions of immigration and jobs. But I believe that we have moved forward in a way that the community will embrace an African-American president.”
She said the solution to overcoming the tensions was discussing economic problems of middle- and lower-class blacks and Hispanics like the mortgage crisis, an issue that first Mrs. Clinton and now Mr. Obama have been raising more frequency.
“I don’t think eating tacos,” is effective, she said with a flick at Mrs. Clinton. “We need to address what unites us. The key is not to raise the wedge issue.”
Mr. Obama, some party officials and scholars suggested, may face additional difficulty if Hispanic women respond to Mrs. Clinton’s increasingly strong appeal for support based on sex. A rally here Saturday was packed with Hispanic women who shrieked at seeing Mrs. Clinton.
“The Hispanic community is very family oriented, and we respect our mothers,” said Ruben Kihuen, an influential Democratic assemblyman from Las Vegas who supported Mrs. Clinton. “A lot of middle-aged women see her as a mother, a head of the household, and they can identify with this. Especially when they see her daughter, Chelsea, with her.”
The tensions between Hispanics and African-Americans have increased proportionately with the influx of new Hispanics in areas like the Southwest, experts on the relationships said.
Mexican-Americans and other groups have increasingly migrated to traditionally black neighborhoods, the experts said.
“There have been enormous misunderstandings and conflicts over local resources and political representations between the two groups which simmer right below the surface and sometimes erupt,” said Albert M. Camarillo, founding director of the Center for the Comparative Study of Race and Ethnicity at Stanford.
Hispanic voters, Mr. Camarillo said, “might not go into the direction of the Obama camp.”
Copyright © 2008 The New York Times
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22658860/
My goodness
The Spaniards are white Europeans from SPAIN. Spain is in EUROPE.
not the indigenous people from South America who were conquered by the Spaniards.
got damn
You can post a million articles a day but...
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/6bIeIHZ6kyk[/FLASH]
What African heritage...some African blood maybe. They weren't victims of our slavery, they weren't involved with our civil rights movement, they weren't part of our struggle...how are they gonna relate to that and if they did we'd look at them like their crazy.
Hispanics have their own heritage and past that we don't. People need to stop forcing other ethnic groups to forget what they are to drop everything for us. We don't drop everything for them. Hell African immigrants & refugees don't even relate to Black Americans, a lot of Blacks from other countries don't relate to Black Americans and I don't expect them to.
The same Hispanics that talk bad about darker Hispanics equal the same amount of blacks that look down on dark skinned blacks. These other races do not hold some special racist/prejudice powers we don't have in us, we just don't see or refuse to see ours.
Hispanics have their own heritage and past that we don't. People need to stop forcing other ethnic groups to forget what they are to drop everything for us. We don't drop everything for them. Hell African immigrants & refugees don't even relate to Black Americans, a lot of Blacks from other countries don't relate to Black Americans and I don't expect them to.
The same Hispanics that talk bad about darker Hispanics equal the same amount of blacks that look down on dark skinned blacks. These other races do not hold some special racist/prejudice powers we don't have in us, we just don't see or refuse to see ours.
I thought we were one............ black and brown?????
we are
some of them are to ignorant to admit it
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No one is asking them to "relate" but to just acknowledge that we're all fighting the same fight as minorities in this country. That the white man is the only completely free man. If Hispanics, Blacks and Asians banded together in this country we would be A-class citizens and have a much greater voice in this nation!!!
Damn, you put that shit straight, it's been what I have been trying to type but couldn't in my own words. Thank you for this.
Bruh, Hispanics are doing their own thing...Asians are doing their own thing...why can't we do our own thing, why do we need to ask for their assistance? We are our own people, they are their own people.
Cuz they don't listen to conservative radio, they only listen to their own stations.......................................................If they did listen they'd know that Conservatives want the borders closed and they want any and everyone here illegally or on an outdated visa...OUT. They don't care if you been working here forever or if you got family here......They want them out.......They just don't understand....
Its simple. The white man has taught every fukin body to have a caste system. The Latinos were taught to hate dark skin especially African traits.
Here's what the Mexicans think of us. (please keep in mind this is was put out by the Mexican government)
By the way. The indigenous indians of Mexico were set free first. They didn't lift a fuckin' hand and say, yo whitey, free the Africans as well. Nope it took years later when the African slaves up rose.
FUCK those that think we are stupid. I already know of the divide and conquer bullshit. Latinos only tolerate, the don't lemme repeat don't like Black people. Like any other group they will abandon our causes in a second if it is to their benefit and also take part in putting the foot to our necks. Jews did it to us. When the main civil rights movement came to an end in the United States, they sure as hell forgot blacks were their allies. They joined in on swindling us as others did.
I'll be cool with all peoples but I am not stupid. I've seen it first hand. Especially in the work place.
I challenge you this in NYC channel and tell me where you see any blacks? Outside of in sports? No Afro Latin reporters, Soap stars, Host of any show, its like there are no Latin folk that have African traits.
You wanna know why they don't vote for Obama even though he is for fixing the immigration problems in their favor?
Take a close look at how Afro-Latinos are treated.
http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/afrolatin/index.html
Here's what the Mexicans think of us. (please keep in mind this is was put out by the Mexican government)
By the way. The indigenous indians of Mexico were set free first. They didn't lift a fuckin' hand and say, yo whitey, free the Africans as well. Nope it took years later when the African slaves up rose.
FUCK those that think we are stupid. I already know of the divide and conquer bullshit. Latinos only tolerate, the don't lemme repeat don't like Black people. Like any other group they will abandon our causes in a second if it is to their benefit and also take part in putting the foot to our necks. Jews did it to us. When the main civil rights movement came to an end in the United States, they sure as hell forgot blacks were their allies. They joined in on swindling us as others did.
I'll be cool with all peoples but I am not stupid. I've seen it first hand. Especially in the work place.
I challenge you this in NYC channel and tell me where you see any blacks? Outside of in sports? No Afro Latin reporters, Soap stars, Host of any show, its like there are no Latin folk that have African traits.
You wanna know why they don't vote for Obama even though he is for fixing the immigration problems in their favor?
Take a close look at how Afro-Latinos are treated.
http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/afrolatin/index.html
Cause they think there Caucasian and secretly look down and want nothing to do with the African American!!!!
Goddamn, there go forty plus fucking years of education fought for, down the fucking drain....Nigga, you can't even spell "they're" and you have the audacity to utter nonsense. Hang yourselt, ******
I thought we were one............ black and brown?????
Brother Kaya ,let me first preface where I'm about to go, with saying I realize this does not apply to all Hispanics, however the greater majority have to deal with something more powerful than most of their group are conscious of. The prism from which their religious foundation is laid (which starts at a young age) has a dramatic affect on how they interact with and view the larger society as a whole.
This imagery is heavy in their homes and community. It is very real to many. I've seen candles, cards, little trinkets and statues from car dashes .... to offices & cubes in corporate America
Does this have any affect on how they see themselves and their association with whites vs blacks (and every other ethnic group) in a country where the power structure looks much like and claims the same heritage as the imagery they have such deep seated reference for?
From: Breaking the chains of Psychological Slavery
Religious Imagery
"Modern students and Scholars of the mind have not adequately dealt with the influence of religious symbols and imagery on the thinking of people."
"those of the Nile Valley civilization in Ancient Africa, devoted considerable attention to the significance of symbols and images on the minds of people". ...."the sphinx, the pyramids and obelisks were constructed with the specific intention of creating powerful and compelling images in the consciousness of people."
"It is important to keep in mind that the image of God, which a people or a person possesses will determine the potential limits of their minds. If people have a narrow image of God then their minds are narrow. If people believe that the biggest reality is a tree, then that is the extent to which their minds can aspire.
"If one only believes that God can be only as large as a river or a lake, then that is as large as that mind will be able to reach. Such an image prohibits you from conceiving of the ocean which feeds the lake, and if you cannot conceive the clouds which feed the ocean, your potential for understanding "Truth" and the competence which comes from Truth is limited. People with a limited or narrowed concept of God, then, have an automatically limited and narrowed psychology"
"This idea constitutes the basic reason why any finite image of God is in fact limiting to our psychology."
IMO ( I hope I'm proven wrong) for many Hispanics, choosing white is a precondition of the psyche
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/ybDa0gSuAcg&rel=1[/FLASH]
If the test above was done with Hispanics children TODAY with the same two choices in the video, how many would actually choose black over white and WHY? This conditioning of the psyche is real.
Can Obama win some Hispanic votes ? yes
What helps him to do so?
1. He professes Christianity and has said he prays to Jesus,
2. Many Whites are already supporting him which will undoubtly have at least some affect in the minds of a few Hispanics as it did with some blacks.
3. The Generation X affect
4. Some will look at the man and his message above all else weighing it on its merit and choose to support him over others.
5. I'm sure there are other reasons I haven't considered...
Will this be enough support from the Hispanic community to advance him to victory over ANY White candidate ?
California, Arizona, New Mexico for starters is going to provide us with a resounding answer
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Do you think every Latino doesn't listen to Conservative radio? damn, ya'll black mothafuckas are starting to grait my fucking nerves reading your pompous bullshit. they should've evaluated who they could give internet service, becuase damn, the coonin in here is going Mega-ton status
You're right, THEO, hispanics are doing their own thing while us blacks are steady bickering over who wants to be down with us......I try and try to tell people, but they want to shuffle their feet and make fun of what the fuck I'm saying. Kaffirs, as my man Lazarus to them
Damn, faggot, you need a comma, and you forgot, goddamn. I guess the Civil Rights didn't affect you at all huh?
I thought we were one............ black and brown?????
man Latinos always have been racist!!!!
that's the same shit that happens with jamaicans and blacks, Jamaicans talk shit about AAs like their's no tomorrow so don't talk like that. nobody wants to relate to American blacks becuase the legacy sucks and if you look at the way Rap/BET/MTV you'd be thinking the shit, Nuggah
We are some of the main purveyors of prejudices, however we expect every other race and ethnicity to not be that way
Between you and Wallochamp, ya'll both sound like a bunch of Project bitches who got abused by hispanics, now you want to take it out on them by postin shit on the internet, yet you're scared to talk to them in person. Hispanics are mixed, you little bitches, love it or not, they deal with their issues. Focus on your own issues(child abuse, more than likely) and maybe you can become a better man/woman/men/women
This is foolish. Now that you realize it you would be a fool to keep going on with him.
Thank you........I cant wait to November so this shit can be over.
Black People = Charley Brown
White people = Lucy
Thinking that white people as a MASS will change =Football
I think our problem is we judge on individual basis and not as a collective whole. When everyone judges us as a collective whole.
Just because Gretchen adds you to her myspace does not mean as a collective whole her race does not hate you.
Just because Tyler bee-bops with you and hip-hops with you does not mean as a collective whole his race does not hate you.
I dont care how nation loving a latino is they always stop a point in time in history . They alway want to be a nationalist and wave a flag because they want to start their history at that point not when the slave ship brought them there. That is something they have to deal with not me. Im not ashamed of Africa.
The question you guys need to ask yourself ........what does your child benefit from this. when your child is 50 should they still have to deal with nooses and politically "picking the lesser of two evils". If you not teaching you child black awareness you are very wrong for that. We all know as a collective whole integration and false friendships did not work.
So I hope you aint singing that same tune to your child that we can all get along crap when you are at you own job catching hell from these people.
There is an old post on Bgol about white people loving underground hip hop and I said the these white guys will shave off their scruffy beard and put away their skateboard clothes and continue the chain of racism. Look at Bill Clinton: He was cool Bill and was a down brother .......until a black person wants the same thing he wants......now look at him .....take the stuff he has been saying the last week and you would think he was a conservative radio talkshow host that worked for fox news.
Some of you guys need to grow up.....Black ..Latinos and white dont hang around each other in the rain and sing like you see in an Alicia Keys video
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