Homeland Security to press ahead with National ID Card

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The U.S. Department of Homeland Security on Friday plans to take the next step in getting its controversial Real ID plan off the ground, despite opposition from numerous states and privacy groups.

At a midday press conference in Washington, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff is scheduled to take the wraps off final regulations for the electronic identification card mandate and to make another pitch for the scheme's perceived importance in keeping Americans safe from terrorist threats.


link: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9848732-7.html?tag=nefd.blgs
 
I keep reading that they are to be issued by MAY 11 of THIS YEAR...

I'll be back with CREDIBLE LINKS if I can find any...

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The official release from Homeland Security. Not linked so if you want to read it from the source, go to the site on your own :hmm:.

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DHS Releases REAL ID Regulation

Release Date: January 11, 2008

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
Contact: 202-282-8010

REAL ID Requirements

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced today a final rule establishing minimum security standards for state-issued drivers’ licenses and identification cards. The rule sets uniform standards that enhance the integrity and reliability of drivers’ licenses and identification cards, strengthen issuance capabilities, and increase security at drivers’ license and identification card production facilities. The final rule also dramatically reduces state implementation costs by roughly 73 percent.

“The American public’s desire for greater identity protection is undeniable,” said Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. “Americans understand today that the 9/11 hijackers obtained 30 drivers licenses and ID’s, and used 364 aliases. For an extra $8 per license, REAL ID will give law enforcement and security officials a powerful advantage against falsified documents, and it will bring some peace of mind to citizens wanting to protect their identity from theft by a criminal or illegal alien.”

The problems that Americans face from document fraud are diverse and growing. A Public Opinion Strategies poll taken last year shows that more than 80 percent of the American public favors secure identification to prevent terrorism and identity theft. Identity theft has increased by nearly 800 percent from 2000 to 2006, according to the Federal Trade Commission. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement made 863 criminal arrests during various worksite enforcement operations in fiscal year 2007 - more than 500 were charged with crimes relating to federal and state document fraud - and their Identity and Benefit Fraud Units made 1,211 criminal arrests for document fraud related charges. The U.S. Secret Service made 4,348 arrests last year for identity theft or financial fraud crimes, accounting for approximately $690 million in actual fraud loss to individuals and financial institutions. In a sampling of Secret Service identify theft cases from 2000 to 2006, fraudulent drivers’ licenses were used 35 percent of the time.

REAL ID will address document fraud by setting specific requirements that states must adopt for compliance, to include: (1) information and security features that must be incorporated into each card; (2) proof of the identity and U.S. citizenship or legal status of an applicant; (3) verification of the source documents provided by an applicant; and (4) security standards for the offices that issue licenses and identification cards.

The first deadline for compliance with REAL ID is Dec. 31, 2009. By then, states must upgrade the security of their license systems, to include a check for lawful status of all applicants, to ensure that illegal aliens cannot obtain REAL ID licenses. Some states are expected to be compliant well before that time. Compliance will be needed for access into a federal facility, boarding commercial aircraft, and entering nuclear power plants. Federal agencies will continue to accept licenses for official purposes from residents of states that comply with the law.

DHS is making approximately $360 million available to assist states with REAL ID implementation - $80 million in dedicated REAL ID grants and another $280 million in general funding as part of the Homeland Security Grant Program.

The 73 percent cost reduction – from an original estimate of $14.6 billion to approximately $3.9 billion – was achieved mainly by giving states greater flexibility in issuing licenses to older Americans. Enrollment will be completed for all individuals under 50 years of age by Dec. 1, 2014. For all others, enrollment may be extended three additional years to Dec. 1, 2017. At that time, all state-issued drivers’ licenses and identification cards intended for official federal purposes must be REAL ID compliant.

REAL ID was a core 9/11 Commission finding and mandated by Congress in the REAL ID Act of 2005. This final rule follows a Notice of Proposed Rule Making published in the Federal Register on March 9, 2007. Based on comments received from various stakeholders, DHS drafted the final rule to substantially reduce costs and account for investments that many states have already made to improve the security of their drivers’ licenses.
 
ok ... here we go with the bullshit...

THIS ARTICLE WAS DATED Wednesday, August 24, 2005

A new federal law now orders every state to create a standard system for driver's licenses. If Washington is not ready by May 11, 2008, your license won't get you on an airline flight or perhaps (they're not sure yet) allow you to open a federally insured bank account.


FULL STORY from the SEATTLE TIMES>>>>>>click HERE
 
The REAL ID Act of 2005 creates a de facto national identification card. Ostensibly voluntary, it would become mandatory as those without the card would face suspicion and increased scrutiny.

It is a law imposing federal technological standards and verification procedures on state driver's licenses and identification cards, many of which are beyond the current capacity of the federal government, and mandating state compliance by May 2008.

In fact, REAL ID turns state DMV workers into federal immigration officials, as they must verify the citizenship status of all those who want a REAL ID-approved state driver's license or identification cards. State DMVs would far move away from their core mission -- to license drivers.



CLICK HERE for the full story on the National ID Cards and REAL ID Act>>>>>>
 
ok ... here we go with the bullshit...

THIS ARTICLE WAS DATED Wednesday, August 24, 2005

A new federal law now orders every state to create a standard system for driver's licenses. If Washington is not ready by May 11, 2008, your license won't get you on an airline flight or perhaps (they're not sure yet) allow you to open a federally insured bank account.


FULL STORY from the SEATTLE TIMES>>>>>>click HERE

Hmm... interesting. All I know is Michael Chertoff just finished a press conference rolling out the Real ID plan & dates. I guessed they updated the timeframes. :confused:
 
Hmm... interesting. All I know is Michael Chertoff just finished a press conference rolling out the Real ID plan & dates. I guessed they updated the timeframes. :confused:

the article that you posted has the UPDATED plans...

The date was pushed back Dec 31, 2009...
 
ok ... here we go with the bullshit...

THIS ARTICLE WAS DATED Wednesday, August 24, 2005

A new federal law now orders every state to create a standard system for driver's licenses. If Washington is not ready by May 11, 2008, your license won't get you on an airline flight or perhaps (they're not sure yet) allow you to open a federally insured bank account.


FULL STORY from the SEATTLE TIMES>>>>>>click HERE

I knew that I had read somewhere that they were to be issue by or on May 11, 2008...
 
This is just one more step toward socialism that the majority of americans want.:smh:

Bullshit, just because most Americans want some damn health insurance DOES NOT mean they want some shit like Real ID. You conspiracy cats are on some other shit these days. Go the fuck back in your bunker dog, the bomb is droppin' any minute.
:smh:
 
Bullshit, just because most Americans want some damn health insurance DOES NOT mean they want some shit like Real ID. You conspiracy cats are on some other shit these days. Go the fuck back in your bunker dog, the bomb is droppin' any minute.
:smh:

This goes way beyond health insurance and there is no conspiracy.
The evidence is everywhere you look,open your eyes.
The minuscule amounts of freedom we have left are dissapearing before our eyes.
 
That's what I was saying. The pres conf. announced the updated plans/ dates. Not a good look for the citizens either way.

nope...not AT ALL....

thanx for starting this thread...


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...many people don't understand that retinal scan, voice recognition, fingerprints, a WHOLE police record, bank account statement,and health records can be stored on ONE card...The Dept. of Homeland Security ALREADY uses them...

This shit aint SCI-FI this is a REALITY...

The EUROPEAN UNION already use these...here is what it looks like:

blunkid.jpg



why not just skip the cards and put a chip in everybody? (this was a question posed to me by a non free-thinking ass sheep)

once the cards are issued, there would be ONLY one problem...physical loss of the card...best solution for the problem of lost cards? = RFID IMPLANTS


"...Listen to me now, believe me later on..." - Khujo Goodie from Goodie Mob - Cell Therapy
 
:smh: Its just an id get over it. The only people who should be nervous are illegal aliens.

If it is just an ID, then why not make everybody go to the DMV and get a REGULAR ID like WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS ?!?!?!?!?


Why give the capability to track your MONEY ??? for ID purposes?
 
they have to have this signed into law first.....which ain't gonna happen. homeland security doesn't have the authority to force all americans to get this bullshiet card.....not since some of the provisions in the patriot act giving them unlimited power weren't renewed last year
 
they have to have this signed into law first.....which ain't gonna happen. homeland security doesn't have the authority to force all americans to get this bullshiet card.....not since some of the provisions in the patriot act giving them unlimited power weren't renewed last year

signed in 2005...

The U.S. Congress has passed the REAL ID Act of 2005, which mandates federal requirements for driver's licenses. Critics argue that it would make driver's licenses into de facto national IDs. EPIC and others have called for the repeal of this ill-conceived national identification law.
 
Pretty soon they'll be telling all of us what to say, what to do, what to think, what to feel. They'll regulate all clothing, and everyone will only be allowed to wear the exact same thing at all times. We'll be told where to live, who to marry, and how we will make a living.

They'll even regulate how many children a couple will have for population control. I even believe that they're gonna make it so that when a person turns 18, they will receive an envelope on how the rest of their life will be scheduled.

This country is slowly becoming a totalitarian/dictatorship society. :smh:




*I really need to leave that weed alone.*
 
If it is just an ID, then why not make everybody go to the DMV and get a REGULAR ID like WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS ?!?!?!?!?


Why give the capability to track your MONEY ??? for ID purposes?



this the thing the sheep's don't think about the use this terror whit to scare their ass in giving up the little rights that is left,


Does anybody know if Obama have address this situation of any....
 
Pretty soon they'll be telling all of us what to say, what to do, what to think, what to feel. They'll regulate all clothing, and everyone will only be allowed to wear the exact same thing at all times. We'll be told where to live, who to marry, and how we will make a living.

They'll even regulate how many children a couple will have for population control. I even believe that they're gonna make it so that when a person turns 18, they will receive an envelope on how the rest of their life will be scheduled.

This country is slowly becoming a totalitarian/dictatorship society. :smh:


*I really need to leave that weed alone.*



THE ENTIRE WORLD is slowly becoming a totalitarian/dictatorship society. The U.S. is only modeling what is already happening on other continents which are already unionized like Europe for example(The U.S., Asia, and South America are next).

I can see it now, once every country is successfully unionized then look out for that one world government and one world religion that will be brought about on false pretenses.
 
nope...not AT ALL....

thanx for starting this thread...


0_21_national_id_card_450.jpg


NatIdCard.gif


...many people don't understand that retinal scan, voice recognition, fingerprints, a WHOLE police record, bank account statement,and health records can be stored on ONE card...The Dept. of Homeland Security ALREADY uses them...

This shit aint SCI-FI this is a REALITY...

The EUROPEAN UNION already use these...here is what it looks like:

blunkid.jpg



why not just skip the cards and put a chip in everybody? (this was a question posed to me by a non free-thinking ass sheep)

once the cards are issued, there would be ONLY one problem...physical loss of the card...best solution for the problem of lost cards? = RFID IMPLANTS


"...Listen to me now, believe me later on..." - Khujo Goodie from Goodie Mob - Cell Therapy

People weren't listening to Goodie Moe when they dropped this GEM back in 95'.
 
chertoff was just live on fox news pushing this bullshit

he tried to make it sound like it will only change when you renew your shit and it wont have any impact before then but if I dont have to renew my shit til 2017 I know that bullshit is going to have me getting a new one just to comply with the gestapo
 
Who's gonna keep us safe from the government?

It's our fault. We keep clamoring for government intervention all over the place, with the latest instance is the sub-prime situation, and then we beef when they don't stop. You can't have your cake and eat it too. It's an immutable truth.
 
i'll bet you 20 bucks they won't enforce it with the illegal aliens. all while we are being treated like criminals in our own country
YUP. This shit happens all the time now in Cali. you get pulled over without a license, you fucked. If illegals, get pulled over no license, they get a pass.
 
signed in 2005...

The U.S. Congress has passed the REAL ID Act of 2005, which mandates federal requirements for driver's licenses. Critics argue that it would make driver's licenses into de facto national IDs. EPIC and others have called for the repeal of this ill-conceived national identification law.

say what?! :eek:


((dayum....more info below :smh:))

WASHINGTON - Residents of at least 17 states are suddenly stuck in the middle of a fight between the Bush administration and state governments over post-Sept. 11 security rules for driver's licenses — a dispute that, by May, could leave millions of people unable to use their licenses to board planes or enter federal buildings.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who was unveiling final details of the REAL ID Act's rules on Friday, said that if states want their licenses to remain valid for air travel after May 2008, those states must seek a waiver indicating they want more time to comply with the legislation.

Chertoff, as he revealed final details of the REAL ID Act, said that in instances where a particular state doesn't seek a waiver, its residents will have to use a passport or a newly created federal passport card if they want to avoid a vigorous secondary screening at airport security.

"The last thing I want to do is punish citizens of a state who would love to have a REAL ID license but can't get one," Chertoff said. "But in the end, the rule is the rule as passed by Congress."

Chertoff spoke as he discussed the details of the administration's plan to improve security for driver's licenses in all 50 states — an effort delayed due to opposition from states worried about the cost and civil libertarians upset about what they believe are invasions of privacy.

Under the rules announced Friday, Americans born after Dec. 1, 1964, will have to get more secure driver's licenses in the next six years.

The Homeland Security Department has spent years crafting the final regulations for the REAL ID Act, a law designed to make it harder for terrorists, illegal immigrants and con artists to get government-issued identification. The effort once envisioned to take effect in 2008 has been pushed back in the hopes of winning over skeptical state officials.

To address some of those concerns, the government now plans to phase in a secure ID initiative that Congress approved in 2005. Now, DHS plans a key deadline in 2011 — when federal authorities hope all states will be in compliance — and then further measures to be enacted three years later.

To make the plan more appealing to cost-conscious states, federal authorities drastically reduced the expected cost from $14.6 billion to $3.9 billion, a 73 percent decline, said Homeland Security officials familiar with the plan.

The American Civil Liberties Union has fiercely objected to the effort, particularly the sharing of personal data among government agencies. The DHS and other officials say the only way to ensure an ID is safe is to check it against secure government data; critics such as the ACLU say that creates a system that is more likely to be infiltrated and have its personal data pilfered.

In its written objection to the law, the ACLU claims REAL ID amounts to the "first-ever national identity card system," which "would irreparably damage the fabric of American life."

The Sept. 11 attacks were the main motivation for the changes.

The hijacker-pilot who flew into the Pentagon, Hani Hanjour, had four driver's licenses and ID cards from three states. The DHS, created in response to the attacks, has created a slogan for REAL ID: "One driver, one license."

By 2014, anyone seeking to board an airplane or enter a federal building would have to present a REAL ID-compliant driver's license, with the notable exception of those more than 50 years old, Homeland Security officials said.

The over-50 exemption was created to give states more time to get everyone new licenses, and officials say the risk of someone in that age group being a terrorist, illegal immigrant or con artist is much less. By 2017, even those over 50 must have a REAL ID-compliant card to board a plane.

So far, 17 states have passed legislation or resolutions objecting to the REAL ID Act's provisions, many due to concerns it will cost them too much to comply. The 17, according to the ACLU, are: Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Maine, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee and Washington state.

Among other details of the REAL ID plan:

_The traditional driver's license photograph would be taken at the beginning of the application instead of the end so that if someone is rejected for failure to prove identity and citizenship, the applicant's photo would be kept on file and checked if that person tried to con the system again.

_The cards will have three layers of security measures but will not contain microchips as some had expected. States will be able to choose from a menu which security measures they will put in their cards.

Over the next year, the government expects all states to begin checking both the Social Security numbers and immigration status of license applicants.

Most states already check Social Security numbers and about half check immigration status. Some, like New York, Virginia, North Carolina and California, have already implemented many of the security measures envisioned in REAL ID. In California, for example, officials expect the only major change to adopt the first phase would be to take the photograph at the beginning of the application process instead of the end.

After the Social Security and immigration status checks become nationwide practice, officials plan to move on to more expansive security checks, including state DMV offices checking with the State Department to verify those applicants who use passports to get a driver's license, verifying birth certificates and checking with other states to ensure an applicant doesn't have more than one license.

A few states have already signed written agreements indicating they plan to comply with REAL ID. Seventeen others, though, have passed legislation or resolutions objecting to it, often because of concerns about the cost of the extra security.


LINK: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080111/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/secure_driver_s_licenses
 
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