How Illegal Immigration Hurts Black America

[D Town Redd]

Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

I haven't heard any opinions among us black folk re the wave of illegal and legal immigration that is hitting the US. Your thoughts?

 

[Temujin]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

I love illegal and legal immigration. I would love for brown people to be the majority in this country. Lets give the continent back to the native people.

 

[kjxxxx]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

I hate that shit man. Here is why.

When the do something illegal besides imigration shit, you can't catch them because they not in the system most of the time. For instance, mother f**&^$%% crash in my car then want to fight then drive off when I beat him down. Got the plates, look up the info at the police station. Mother f**&^$%% does not exist. That is true by the way.

ok ok. They kill some people and then skip town. Cant be traced even though they left finger prints. They not in the system.

ok. ok. You bid on a job. Mother f**&^$%% underbid you then go get some illegals to do the job for the dirt. You trying to do shit legit, (like sell bootlegs hehehe kidding there).

you get the picture. My biggest is that they are not in the system.

Pretty soon we will be running over to Mexico to go steal jobs. hehehe. Their time will come when they will not be a third world. Wait till India, China, Brasil, Mexico, Venizuella, etc, etc. middle class increase a little more and we kind stand not having a job in the states but we have a credit card for a plane ticket. I know I will be speaking all dem language. Gonna go set me up a bootleg shop over there.

 

[QueEx]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

I haven't heard any opinions among us black folk re the wave of illegal and legal immigration that is hitting the US. Your thoughts?

See this thread also:

The impact of Immigration: Illegal & Legal, on Black Americans

http://64.255.174.200/board/showthread.php?t=12848&highlight=immigration


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[QueEx]

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[Fuckallyall]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

I love illegal and legal immigration. I would love for brown people to be the majority in this country. Lets give the continent back to the native people.

Then many people who we call mexicans got to go too. Vincente Fox is as european as Bush. He appears to have no indian blood in him at all. Also, how do we determine the power those of mixed parentage should have ?

It's funny that those who benefit from this country the most (defined as the relative jump in standard of living from thier originating culture) are those who seem to have the most animosity towards it.

I am in favor of open borders, along with the eradication of the government enforced welfare system, including EMTALA (that is the legislation which dictates that emergency care be given without regard to ability to pay), and compulsory public education. If not, the children of Illegals should not be granted citizenship, as one should not profit from criminal activity, whereas the parents cannot be deported due to the fact that would break up the family.

 

[Irrational32]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

Yea....Here is my personal "Black" opinion...blow up the borders and allow all those people in Fuck America

Freedom or Anarchy!!!!!!!!

 

[QueEx]

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[thoughtone]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

I hate it when companies hire people illegally with impunity and displace an American worker. I have seen it first hand. A manger I worked with had a blow up in the production department and had to get it fixed stat. Rather than offer the people in production over time in which they were complaining about, the manager went to a corner, found some Hispanic, very little English speaking people to clear it up, paid them cash out of pocket and sent them pack to their corner. I don’t blame those Hispanic, very little English speaking people for working and trying to make a buck, I blamed that manager, who by the way has a “W” sticker on his shinny Chevy Tahoe. Sure I am concerned about illegal immigration, but it could be stopped today, by fining any one $1000 per head if they do it and in force it! The republicans have been trying to get traction from this issue, because rather than address the economic problems they created, they as usual try to blame the weakest victims they created as a by product of their zeal to pacify labor. It ain’t gonna work this election season.

 

[QueEx]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

Hell, lets work towards getting that law passed, ASAP.

QueEx

 

[QueEx]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

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[MASTERBAKER]

With national unemployment hovering around 10 percent and black male unemployment at a staggering 17.6 percent, it's just not true that undocumented workers are doing the jobs that we won't do.

In October 2008, amidst claims that one of its subsidiaries was knowingly hiring illegal immigrants, North Carolina poultry producer House of Raeford Farms initiated a systematic conversion of its wor More..kforce.

Following a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid that nabbed 300 undocumented workers at a Columbia Farms processing plant in Columbia, S.C., a spooked House of Raeford quietly began replacing immigrants with native-born labor at all of its plants. Less than a year later, House of Raeford’s flagship production line in Raeford, N.C., had been transformed, going from more than 80 percent Latino to 70 percent African-American, according to a report by the Charlotte Observer.

Under President George W. Bush, showy workplace raids like the one that befell Raeford were standard—if widely despised—fare. And though the Obama administration has committed itself to dialing down the practice, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has occasionally found herself the bearer of bad news to immigration activists who expected the raids to end entirely under her watch.

For the most part, the workplace crackdowns themselves are unremarkable—gaudy, ad hoc things that mitigate America’s immigration problem the way a water balloon might a forest fire. Increasingly however, their immediate aftermaths—in which dozens of eager African-American job applicants line up to fill vacancies—call into question a familiar refrain from the nation’s more vocal immigration proponents: Illegal immigrants do work American citizens won’t. Even former Mexican President Vicente Fox fell victim to the hype, infamously declaring in 2006 that Mexican immigrants perform the jobs that “not even blacks want to do.”

Four years later, with national unemployment hovering around 10 percent and black male unemployment at a staggering 17.6 percent, it seems even less likely that immigrants are filling only those jobs that Americans won’t deign to do. Just ask Delonta Spriggs, a 24-year-old black man profiled in a November Washington Post piece on joblessness, who pleaded, “Give me a chance to show that I can work. Just give me a chance.”

Spriggs has a difficult road ahead. In this recessed United States, competition for all work is dog-eat-dog. But that holds especially true for low-skilled jobs, jobs for which high school dropouts (like Spriggs) and reformed criminals (also like Spriggs) must now vie against nearly 12 million illegal immigrants, 80 percent of whom are from Latin America. What's more, it seems that, in many cases, the immigrants are winning. From 2007 to 2008, though Latino immigrants reported significant job losses, black unemployment, the worst in the nation, remained 3.5 points higher.

“I don't believe there are any jobs that Americans won't take, and that includes agricultural jobs,” says Carol Swain, professor of law at Vanderbilt University and author of Debating Immigration. “[Illegal immigration] hurts low-skilled, low-wage workers of all races, but blacks are harmed the most because they're disproportionately low-skilled.”

Despite President Fox’s assertion, of the Pew Hispanic Center’s top six occupational sectors for undocumented immigrants (farming, maintenance, construction, food service, production and material moving), all six employed hundreds of thousands of blacks in 2008. That year, almost 15 percent of meat-processing workers were black, as were more than 18 percent of janitors. And although blacks on the whole aren’t involved in agriculture at anywhere near the rates of illegal immigrants—a quarter of whom work in farming—about 14 percent of fruit and vegetable sorters are African-American.

For their efforts, African Americans were paid a median household income of $32,000 in 2007. In the same year, the median household income for illegal immigrants was $37,000.

Audrey Singer is a senior fellow specializing in race and immigration at the Brookings Institution. She agrees that blacks are disproportionately hindered by illegal immigration, but says that pay is a necessary variable to note when talking about work Americans will and won’t do. “There is evidence that shows people at the lower end of the skill spectrum are most affected by immigrant labor, particularly illegal immigrant labor,” she says. “But would Americans do the jobs illegal workers do at the wages that they’re paid? I don’t think so.”

Besides competing for work while simultaneously attempting to avoid drastically deflated paychecks and benefits, unemployed African- American job seekers must also frequently combat racial discrimination. In a 2006 research paper called “Discrimination in Low-Wage Labor Markets,” a team of Princeton sociologists discovered that, all else being equal, black applicants to low-wage jobs were 10 percent less likely than Latinos to receive positive responses from potential employers. Furthermore, employers were twice as likely to prefer white applicants to equally qualified blacks.

"To be blunt, a lot of employers would rather not deal with black American workers if they have the option of hiring a docile Hispanic immigrant instead,” says Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. Krikorian’s organization advocates a large-scale contraction of immigration to America, one of the main reasons being that low-skilled immigrants aren’t contributing to the U.S. labor force in a way that American citizens can’t. Nevertheless, Krikorian says that easily exploitable immigrants remain attractive to businesses looking to eliminate hassles. “[Illegal immigrants] are not going to demand better wages, and they're not going to ask for time off,” he adds. “And frankly, a lot of bosses are thinking, 'I don't want to deal with a young black male.'"

Most political analysts expect the debate over immigration reform to find new life in 2010, under a president who thoughtfully supports both increased border enforcement and the “recognition of immigrants’ humanity.” Wherever the discussion meanders, however—from amnesty on the left to expulsion on the right—from here on, it seems that anyone interested in speaking thoroughly on the matter can no longer do so without discussing its impact on black America.

This type of discussion has proved difficult in the past, however. “Many of the black scholars dance around this hard issue,” says Swain. “They do their research in such a way that it doesn’t address how immigration affects blacks. There’s a lot of pressure to say the politically correct thing—that immigrants aren’t hurting African Americans. Well, that’s not true.”

Link to Article:
http://www.theroot.com/views/how-illegal-immigration-hurts-black-america#

The picture is of Civil Rights lawyer, T. Willard Fair.

A link to his testimony before Congress in 2007
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/l...congressional-testimony-how-mass-immigra.html
Congressional Testimony: How Mass Immigration Hurts Black Americans

 

[batmanobx]

I've been blessed to have several jobs were I have dealt with immigrant workers and black workers, mostly in the home construction sector. In home construction, the immigrant workers have taken away skilled jobs from blacks and in some instances contributed to black owned construction companies going out of business, by working for white owned companies for lower wages.

On the other hand, immigrants do many of the jobs that a lot of us as blacks and Americans think we are to good to do for the pay that is offered.

 

[QueEx]

Bump from the Archives. Looks like this topic is relevant, again.

 

[actinanass]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

I hate it when companies hire people illegally with impunity and displace an American worker. I have seen it first hand. A manger I worked with had a blow up in the production department and had to get it fixed stat. Rather than offer the people in production over time in which they were complaining about, the manager went to a corner, found some Hispanic, very little English speaking people to clear it up, paid them cash out of pocket and sent them pack to their corner. I don’t blame those Hispanic, very little English speaking people for working and trying to make a buck, I blamed that manager, who by the way has a “W” sticker on his shinny Chevy Tahoe. Sure I am concerned about illegal immigration, but it could be stopped today, by fining any one $1000 per head if they do it and in force it! The republicans have been trying to get traction from this issue, because rather than address the economic problems they created, they as usual try to blame the weakest victims they created as a by product of their zeal to pacify labor. It ain’t gonna work this election season.

Stop the fucking presses, did we just get an OPINION from mister Huffington post himself?

BTW, this issue will, and always will be based on so called racial aspects. People forget that our country had a war with Mexico numerous times. Historically, we have a good reason to NOT trust Mexico. So, when most of the illegal aliens come from our southern border, it sparks old flames among the states that such wars were fault in among native statesmen.

 

[thoughtone]

Re: Do blacks care about Illegal Immigration?

Stop the fucking presses, did we just get an OPINION from mister Huffington post himself?

BTW, this issue will, and always will be based on so called racial aspects. People forget that our country had a war with Mexico numerous times. Historically, we have a good reason to NOT trust Mexico. So, when most of the illegal aliens come from our southern border, it sparks old flames among the states that such wars were fault in among native statesmen.

People forget that our country had a war with Mexico numerous times. Historically, we have a good reason to NOT trust Mexico.

You are such a simp!

 

[Panameno718]

Immigration Gumballs

 

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[Panameno718]

Just One State - be sure and read the last part.
This is only one State... If this doesn't open eyes, nothing will!

From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County .)
(All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
We are fools for letting this continue.
HOW CAN YOU HELP?
Send copies of this letter to at least two other people. 100 would be even better.
This is only one State...

 

[Panameno718]

Ask Black Americans in California how they feel about illegal immigration?

 

[QueEx]