The Technics SL-DZ1200 (no porn)

[phillyphilly]

Is it worth it?


The Technics SL-DZ1200, the world’s first Direct-Drive Digital Turntable, looks—and more importantly feels—like spinning wax on a classic 1200. The distinctive slip surface on the 10" platter lets you spin, scratch, break, and otherwise work a track in a number of formats, including CD, MP3 and AAC. Along with its realistic vinyl feel and classic direct drive, the SL-DZ1200 also lets you store, playback, scratch and loop sampled media from a removable SD memory card. About the size of a postage stamp, these cards store all your favorite samples, songs—even whole albums. And although they won't ever be able to replace vinyl, they're a whole heck of a lot easier to carry around than a crate of records.

It looks like Technics is about to kick off a whole new era for the DJ—again.

price: $1,199.95

 

[fourthstbully]

hot.

 

[Fiyah Man]

The spinning platter is good but the Pioneer CDJ still does the vinyl emulation sound better. Also there is a slight delay with the platter that you don't get with:
Numark CDX

I've used all three listed above. I liked the CDJ for it's reliability and the CDX for its emulation. I still prefer vinyl though.

 

[CPT Callamity]

I saw these at my local music store. The guy who sold them said that it 's not all that great for the amount of money you pay for them. I have 2 real deal SL1200s and will go to Serato next year. It's good for those who want that vinyl feel with CDs but for some reason, the dude selling them was at odds and all my DJ friends still rock wax or LiveScratch.

 

[blaziantiger]

I don't really get into the digital tables like CDJs and this model. There are certain things that you are missing out on. Go buy some 1200s and do it for the love of the art, fuck the shortcuts

 

[phillyphilly]

The spinning platter is good but the Pioneer CDJ still does the vinyl emulation sound better. The Technics sounds robotic when you put the pitch lock on and then scratch. Also there is a slight delay with the platter that you don't get with:
Numark CDX

I've used all three listed above. I liked the CDJ for it's reliability and the CDX for its emulation. I still prefer vinyl though.

Thanks for the info. I must look into this one.

But you are right. Nothing beats 2 turntables, a mixer, and headphones...

 

[furlough]

Irreplaceable

 

[phillyphilly]

I don't really get into the digital tables like CDJs and this model. There are certain things that you are missing out on. Go buy some 1200s and do it for the love of the art, fuck the shortcuts

indeed

 

[MrBee]

Irreplaceable

WORD!

 

[phillyphilly]

What is a good place to get Vinyl Records from? Post link if you have it.

 

[blaziantiger]

I don't want anybody to take offense, but

it KILLS me to see people call themselves "DJ" when the things they do are nothing more than press play. Fuckers cant blend, beatmatch, work the crowd, NOTHING. If it wasn't for CDJs and Serato, these "DJs" would have to find other ways to get in the club for free / get pussy. I practice with my 1200s 8 hrs a day, and do you know why? For the DMCs... nothing else. DJing in a club is only to pay the bills. Where's the art at? It's like people downloading FL Studio and make a kick and a snare match, then call themselves "producers." I do it for the love, and nothing else.

 

[furlough]

I don't want anybody to take offense, but

it KILLS me to see people call themselves "DJ" when the things they do are nothing more than press play. Fuckers cant blend, beatmatch, work the crowd, NOTHING. If it wasn't for CDJs and Serato, these "DJs" would have to find other ways to get in the club for free / get pussy. I practice with my 1200s 8 hrs a day, and do you know why? For the DMCs... nothing else. DJing in a club is only to pay the bills. Where's the art at? It's like people downloading FL Studio and make a kick and a snare match, then call themselves "producers." I do it for the love, and nothing else.

Good luck with the battle...are you officially in?

...and 100% co-sign with your post!

 

[Fiyah Man]

I don't want anybody to take offense, but

it KILLS me to see people call themselves "DJ" when the things they do are nothing more than press play. Fuckers cant blend, beatmatch, work the crowd, NOTHING. If it wasn't for CDJs and Serato, these "DJs" would have to find other ways to get in the club for free / get pussy. I practice with my 1200s 8 hrs a day, and do you know why? For the DMCs... nothing else. DJing in a club is only to pay the bills. Where's the art at? It's like people downloading FL Studio and make a kick and a snare match, then call themselves "producers." I do it for the love, and nothing else.

I feel what you are sayiing but Serato is just a a way to dump your crates if you are an actual working dj. I only use 1200's I play four nights a week. Carrying 10 crates of records will got old after 13 years. I switched to Serato in 2004 and never looked back. The first month I played with it, it felt so much like using vinyl I kept taking the control records off the platter and turning around to my crates (which were no longer there) to get another song to play. I also used to battle, so long hours of practicing are appreciated.

Many real dj's have made the switch
Jazzy Jeff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR8McH5pe64
A-Track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0I06otuk4
DJ Revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gndkaQ_9yw

 

[CPT Callamity]

Yep....and to think someone gave me two 1200s! The neighbors in my building never complain when I start spinning because I'll cover funk, disco, 80s, etc...
I thought I was being too loud on Fridays and Saturdays but on Monday mornings, my neighbors would be like "you were rockin the other night!"

As far as getting vinyl: I go to Goodwill, Salvation Army and a couple of CD exchange stores that sell used wax. I can get them for as low as 10cents to about $6.00 depending on the condition and the rarity. IF it is in good condition and I know i can get a replacement, I scratch and blend with it. I have way too much wax to want to carry around so I'm going with Serato so that I can make money with minimal equipment.

 

[bigirl]

What is a good place to get Vinyl Records from? Post link if you have it.

http://www.dustygroove.com
http://www.fatbeats.com

BTW I don't want these new joints at all. I love my 1200s and my serato

 

[BIGGSARGE]

Man I got a collection of vinyl. The old 12" cuts, Albums not released on cds, classic shit. Everytime I think of getting rid of them those 1210s start looking at me. Hell I still got a Reel-to-Reel...MFs be trying to buy that shit....I'm like noooo Brotha, you gotta get your own....CTFU!!!

 

[phillyphilly]

http://www.dustygroove.com
http://www.fatbeats.com

BTW I don't want these new joints at all. I love my 1200s and my serato

Thanks Bigirl

 

[furlough]

I switched to Serato in 2004 and never looked back.

Can you mix with this as well, or is it mainly designed for kutting?

 

[Fiyah Man]

Can you mix with this as well, or is it mainly designed for kutting?

It's vinyl emulation. So anything you can do with vinyl you do with Serato Scratch Live. Mixing, Cutting, Needle Dropping etc. The newer versions have added a bunch of features to keep it competitive with cd decks. Stuff like built in sampler, instant cue points, pitch lock etc. But I stick with the basics and just use it as a digital crate.

 

[Iron Man]

I don't really get into the digital tables like CDJs and this model. There are certain things that you are missing out on. Go buy some 1200s and do it for the love of the art, fuck the shortcuts

Co-sign:

 

[furlough]

It's vinyl emulation. So anything you can do with vinyl you do with Serato Scratch Live. Mixing, Cutting, Needle Dropping etc. The newer versions have added a bunch of features to keep it competitive with cd decks. Stuff like built in sampler, instant cue points, pitch lock etc. But I stick with the basics and just use it as a digital crate.

Can you still utilize the pitch control on the technic to controll the track?

 

[donlyone]

What is a good place to get Vinyl Records from? Post link if you have it.

http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/

order enuff stuff and get some free shit with you order.

 

[Fiyah Man]

Can you still utilize the pitch control on the technic to controll the track?

Yeah, I'll give you a quick breakdown of how it works.

The vinyl has a control signal on it. It is similar to a smpte code. It tells the computer the time signature of the location of the needle on the vinyl. Speeding up the pitch of the turntable increases the speed of the signal sent to the computer. The computer locks the mp3 with the time code signal. If you move the record backwards it moves the mp3 the sam rate. You pitch up the turntable the mp3 does the same.

 

[donlyone]

The spinning platter is good but the Pioneer CDJ still does the vinyl emulation sound better. Also there is a slight delay with the platter that you don't get with:
Numark CDX

I've used all three listed above. I liked the CDJ for it's reliability and the CDX for its emulation. I still prefer vinyl though.

I have this...It feels great, features are good and sound is excellent, however, I had to have it sent back right after my 1 year warranty expired. The CD drive was fuckin up and wouldn't read any of the CD's and over heats. I called the people at Numark and they were very helpful and even said that "even though the warranty has expired you can send it to us to fix and we wont charge you". I think the generousity came from the fact the probably had a shit load of complaints about their drive. I only had to pay for shipping and insurance $70 ups and they matched what I paid to have it shipped back to me.

I do not recommend this product because 8 months later the shit over heats and doesn't play any CD's. I have to turn it off for a couple of minutes so the fucker cools down. I have my dj shit set up at the crib so I do my thing every now and then. I can't imagine using this shit on a regular basis rockin all night long it will let you down. I won't purchase a numark product again. Technic in itself is long lasting - the name actually stands for something. I would save the money and by the Technic SL.

 

[bigirl]

Actually the new Numark turntables(just regular vinyl turntables) are so fly they nearly convinced me to mutiny from my Technics. Jazzy jay uses them and loves them. hes like fuck Technics now. I don't like any of the CDJ decks. They are good for smooth blends and thats about it. I was working with the denon double decks in the pre serato era but only for my classics sets not for any hiphop. All those scratch wheel things are pure garbage and sound like shit. I have that virtual DJ program too but never use it. Nothing compares to the hands on feel of vinyl on a turntable IMO. Not only does Serato feel and behave exactly like a vinyl record but an old thick one at that. I stronly recommend the Rane TTM-57 mixer with the Serato right in the mixer.

 

[Fiyah Man]

All those scratch wheel things are pure garbage and sound like shit. ............................. Nothing compares to the hands on feel of vinyl on a turntable IMO. Not only does Serato feel and behave exactly like a vinyl record but an old thick one at that. I stronly recommend the Rane TTM-57 mixer with the Serato right in the mixer.

Cosign

 

[Sosa0822]

Nice post....All real djs will definitely say that nothing will ever replace two turntables and a mixer. True, alot of the modern technology takes away from the true art of turntablism.alot of these programs beat match, etc.

I definitely use serato and another program designed after serrato (Connectiv)
the greatest advantage is not lugging all the vinyl around.

Excellent post playa Cheers to all

 

[KingAddies]

Yep....and to think someone gave me two 1200s! The neighbors in my building never complain when I start spinning because I'll cover funk, disco, 80s, etc...
I thought I was being too loud on Fridays and Saturdays but on Monday mornings, my neighbors would be like "you were rockin the other night!"

As far as getting vinyl: I go to Goodwill, Salvation Army and a couple of CD exchange stores that sell used wax. I can get them for as low as 10cents to about $6.00 depending on the condition and the rarity. IF it is in good condition and I know i can get a replacement, I scratch and blend with it. I have way too much wax to want to carry around so I'm going with Serato so that I can make money with minimal equipment.

I gave my partner my 1200s a Numarx mixer, a Gemini mixer, an amp and two wood cabinet 12" speakers and 6 crates of records with all the Break Beats records, mad old school, and rarities like the Red Vinyl version of the 45 King "The 900 number" and Naughty By Nature's 1st album when they were named "The New Style" Vinny and Treach battle each other on one song. LOL. No dubplates tho'. Heh.

I get the chills from this pic and I haven't touched the stuff since '96... Long live vinyl

I used to spend nights trying to catch that transformer scratch from EPMD "So what cha sayin". I heard it was done in two parts with a sampler. Anybody get the whole thing?

 

[furlough]

Yeah, I'll give you a quick breakdown of how it works.

The vinyl has a control signal on it. It is similar to a smpte code. It tells the computer the time signature of the location of the needle on the vinyl. Speeding up the pitch of the turntable increases the speed of the signal sent to the computer. The computer locks the mp3 with the time code signal. If you move the record backwards it moves the mp3 the sam rate. You pitch up the turntable the mp3 does the same.

thanx

 

[furlough]

I stronly recommend the Rane TTM-57 mixer with the Serato right in the mixer.

Rane mixers are the truth...I still have an old azz 52 model with the regular faders and it's still going strong.

I can't even imagine the kut points and how clean those magnetic faders sound.

I'll upgrade one of these days.

 

[BADSPELLER]

I have this...It feels great, features are good and sound is excellent, however, I had to have it sent back right after my 1 year warranty expired. The CD drive was fuckin up and wouldn't read any of the CD's and over heats. I called the people at Numark and they were very helpful and even said that "even though the warranty has expired you can send it to us to fix and we wont charge you". I think the generousity came from the fact the probably had a shit load of complaints about their drive. I only had to pay for shipping and insurance $70 ups and they matched what I paid to have it shipped back to me.

I do not recommend this product because 8 months later the shit over heats and doesn't play any CD's. I have to turn it off for a couple of minutes so the fucker cools down. I have my dj shit set up at the crib so I do my thing every now and then. I can't imagine using this shit on a regular basis rockin all night long it will let you down. I won't purchase a numark product again. Technic in itself is long lasting - the name actually stands for something. I would save the money and by the Technic SL.

[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/QnAGKnzQaJs&rel=1[/FLASH]

 

[blaziantiger]

I feel what you are sayiing but Serato is just a a way to dump your crates if you are an actual working dj.

Oh dont get me wrong, i use Serato too for work. But I know some people with serato and CDJs that own NO vinyl, and woulnt know how to balance a tonearm if their life depended on it

 

[blaziantiger]

Good luck with the battle...are you officially in?

...and 100% co-sign with your post!

not officially.... but im practicing my ass off until i can sign up, which im pretty sure is coming up since the championships just passed in Oci

 

[bigirl]

Oh dont get me wrong, i use Serato too for work. But I know some people with serato and CDJs that own NO vinyl, and woulnt know how to balance a tonearm if their life depended on it

Unfortunately I have popped into various lounges and witnessed this.
I had to leave.

 

[Fiyah Man]

Oh dont get me wrong, i use Serato too for work. But I know some people with serato and CDJs that own NO vinyl, and woulnt know how to balance a tonearm if their life depended on it

Yeah, I know what you are talking about. It gets worse with those same djs on Scratch Live. They have no idea how to calibrate needles. Or solve a problem when the turntable isn't grounded. If you want to be a dj learn your craft. At least learn to hook a pair of tables to a mixer