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Are historically black colleges good for blacks?

Self 1 said:
If we don't support them they go away or the School get state grants to give scholarship to let in the minorities. This has happened at so many of the HBCU already. :smh: :smh: :smh:
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Yeah, didn't Clark get their accreditation yanked over the school's admin mishandling state and federal funds? :smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
I love being in a learning environment where also all the students looked just like me. You can't depend on your college education to get you a great job or of making you successful anyway, that all comes down to personal perseverance. I had offers from well known white schools, but felt that a HBC could use me more.
 
BeatDownRecords said:
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I won't even entertain your bitch ass, you have already been exposed as a certified homo.

I'll stick to a already positive thread minus your bitch ass being in here, Just know I obtained my degree already and like my career very much. How bout you? oh wait nevermind you need to answer why you made those homo ass comments about fucking another dude in the ass. :lol:
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Poooor little Blood Monkey...his curiosity got him ETHERED :smh:
 
Chase Bannon said:
I've never been to a HBCU, but here is my opinion looking from the outside in. HBCU need to change their style of learning. I've done enough reading to know that the grade point system ain't worth a shit even though every major university use it. There are other ways of learning HBCUs can develop instead of grading people on the grade point system. Another thing HBCUs need to do is start teaching trades and skills. 4 year schools usually don't go this route. HBCU can develop a lot of independent brothas this way.
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Okay.. 1st of all, you can't comment by bring on the outside.. when you read statements and articles like this, you will not get the real true! I'm a 95 grad of FAMU and LOVE IT! An HBCU education and college experience is hands down 100% better then "other" schools!

BTW.. Check out the NEW BCF (Black College Football) Game for the XBOX 360 and PS3..

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Yes.. That FAMU vs. BCU in the Florida Classic.
 
Self 1 said:
If we don't support them they go away or the School get state grants to give scholarship to let in the minorities. This has happened at so many of the HBCU already. :smh: :smh: :smh:
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Thats cause it costs 22000 a yearnow for hampton. Most HBCU's are private colleges. Most minorities, especially us, dont have an extra 28000 dollars now for a year of school, including misc costs, not even countng a car. Wake up son, I could have gone to many a large state school, and by virtue of me not having to deal with chasing provosts down (cause whoever said professors keep hours at black schools didnt go to hampton before 2003, the last time I can speak on the place), arguing about (already paid-for and pre registered LAST SEMESTER) confirmed classes being now full, classes being cancelled w/o notice, teachers not showing up for classes.....like I said, I coiuld have studied more (I was never one to need after class help). DAY 1 Freshman year, I find out the dorm I was assigned to, twitchell hall, is a girls dorm.2nd semester, I have no sat scores, plus no high school transcript on file, so I have a flag on my classes until I act a FOOL in Whipple Barn. Sophomore year, with a balance of roughly 3500 in my student account left over from freshman year, I learn that for some strange reason, the 50 dollar dorm room reservation fee wasnt paid, even though I signed up for a room. I was told I had to actualy go to the window and pay, even though I filled out the form, and the money was already there. My mothers question to fat, pasty yellow dean hopewell when I had no room, and a car full of stuff sophomore year. was, "What fucking sense does it make for someone to have to make an extra goddamn trip to a silly window, when you passed the forms out in the dorm, and YOU ALREADY HAVE 3200 dollars extra of my money?!?!" "Wouldn't common sense dictate, that since the money was there, classes were pre- registered for, paid for in June for next year, that he needed a goddamn room?" Hey, I moved of campus a year early, but it cost my mother an unexpected 9000 dollars or so extra, cause I had to live solo, cause i had no roommate, plus buy furniture, and all types of shit. THESE EXPERIENCS ARE NOT UNIQUE!:angry:
 
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Decon Frost said:
HBCUs Don't Attract Top Students
Karen Karne - Aberdeen, Md.

I work at one of the nation's most advanced computer facilities. Every year, we offer a paid internship for college students which is very popular. One year, the new director decided that all applicants had to come from an Historically Black College or University. The result was dismissal. The interns had no basic understanding of math, science or logic. They didn't want to do any work at all. Never again did the center select interns from exclusively HBCUs.

The simple truth is these schools are holdovers from the past. Blacks can get into competitive schools just like everyone else. Those who end up in the HBCUs are the bottom of the barrel.
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This is such BS............. I cant believe this.. I did go to Howard but I will give them a shot out if we are talking about US veiws (white people veiws). Howard according to US news is better than majority of school in the US. However when you compared them to Hampton it OK...;)

Hampton is not having any financial problems and never will.

There is NO other place that black people can get certain lessons taught to them beside a Black University. Black relate to each other better and can understand each other better than white folks. Thus information is relaid in an understandable manner. Also black folks have a tendency to work harder for people who look like them. There is no differences in the books we use. So it must be the drive of that individual that plays the major role in the performance.

Also, folks enjoy the social life too much which is understandable. And there will always be mediocere folks at any school USA. People do not take into account the background of people attending HBCU. One point, that I was talking about recently is that in the past when schools were not segregated the economically privileged black folks would go to HBCU. These were people who had better education prior to attending college. It is a fact the education and economics are directly related. Now a days, some of these economically privileged folks prefer white schools (white is right) thinking that they are going to get a better education. Not true! This economic shift of black folks attending HBCU decreases funds and protrays statistically through test that black folks arent doing well. However, I did NOT come from a privileged background, poor inner city kid that went to HU and NOW KNOW I CAN COMPETE WITH ANYONE IN ANYTHING.


BECAUSE I ALREADY COMPETED WITH THE BEST!!!:dance:
 
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cardi310 said:
This is such BS............. I cant believe this.. I did go to Howard but I will give them a shot out if we are talking about US veiws (white people veiws). Howard according to US news is better than majority of school in the US. However when you compared them to Hampton it OK...;)

Hampton is not having any financial problems and never will.

There is NO other place that black people can get certain lessons taught to them beside a Black University. Black relate to each other better and can understand each other better than white folks. Thus information is relaid
in an understandable manner. Also black folks have a tendency to work harder for people who look like them. There is no differences in the books we use. So it must be the drive of that individual that plays the major role in the performance.

Also, folks enjoy the social life too much which is understandable. And there will always be mediocere folks at any school USA. People do not take into account the background of people attending HBCU. One point, that I was talking about recently is that in the past when schools were not segregated the economically privileged black folks would go to HBCU. These were people who had better education prior to attending college. It is a fact the education and economics are directly related. Now a days, some of these economically privileged folks prefer white schools (white is right) thinking that they are going to get a better education. Not true! This economic shift of black folks attending HBCU decreases funds and protrays statistically through test that black folks arent doing well. However, I did NOT come from a privileged background, poor inner city kid that went to HU and NOW KNOW I CAN COMPETE WITH ANYONE IN ANYTHING.


BECAUSE I ALREADY COMPETED WITH THE BEST!!!:dance:
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Well said.. :wepraise:

But you have to remember that the people that writes this type of shit only effects the weak minded negroid to choose a PWC over HBCU's..

I'm done.
 
REMINGTON_BLACK said:
No matter what school you go to, either got it or you don't.
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What? There's nothing wrong with wanting to get the best bang for your buck. Best professors, best equipment, best sports program if you're into that, whatever. Most importantly though, best program for your major.
 
AristotlesOwn said:
:smh: @ the op. Your post screams race bait

Went to Hampton, did my thing there which led to me getting into Columbia for grad school and did well there amidst all manner of isms. I make a decent living and hope to start a business soon. I would say that my HBCU did its job well and was a significant part of my growth from slacker to success. :yes:
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SHOT OUT To MY Hamptonian Brother!!!! I am currently a year away from my MD..
 
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Like I stated it depends on who you ask, academically HBCU's are excellent in their respective fields however when it comes to getting grants and financial aid they will fuck your shit up faster than a pretty chic trying to make u breakfast :smh:
 
FAMU96 said:
Okay.. 1st of all, you can't comment by bring on the outside.. when you read statements and articles like this, you will not get the real true! I'm a 95 grad of FAMU and LOVE IT! An HBCU education and college experience is hands down 100% better then "other" schools!
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Why can't I?

2nd you are basing your opinion on your experience.
 
ONE THING............I NEVER IN THE FOUR YEARS AT HAMPTON HAD A FINANCIAL AID PROBLEM. DESTROYING THE MYTHS OF HBCUs ONE STEP AT A TIME:yes:
 
Chase Bannon said:
Why can't I?

2nd you are basing your opinion on your experience.
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Chase Bannon said:
Why can't I?

2nd you are basing your opinion on your experience.
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You damn right. I have had friends attend PWC's, received their BS degrees then went to grad school at a HBCU and realized how personal, down to earth and REAL they are. Fuck being in a class of 100 students at a PWC. I rather take a class with 30 to 40 students. As for FAMU.. The school of Business (SBI), Nursing and Education programs are the tops!

All that Bullshit about getting grants and financial aid at HBCUs is BS! The only people doing the crying are the students that isn't getting a "net check".
 
I can see why he's supporting his school, but it isn't better than Umich, OSU, UVA, Northwestern, NYU, Penn State, some of the UC's, Texas A&M, William and Mary, I could go on and on.
 
And if there was a problem with getting grants and financial aid, why in the fuck did they stay and finish their degrees? Hmmm...
 
I graduated from the University of Houston and knew many brothers who went to Texas Southern University (there only 2 blocks apart). UofH had more finances but TSU had a better enviroment. Think both are needed but the cost to go to a HBU was a main factor for me. I will never say one is better than the other. You just have to do whats works best for you. My boss went to a HBC and is smart as a mofo. Its all about personal preference IMHO.

Dlateshow
 
MegaDell said:
I'd rather go to top universities than the top black universities anyday.
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Let me set you straight on something brother. The guys that posted before are correct. It ultimately depends on the student. Above and beyond that its ALL about reputation at these White Schools. I attend a top law school right now, but law school in and of itself is a completely different animal. When I first came to law school I had difficulties adjusting because law school is straight work, with very little play. The grind never stops.

Before attending Law School, I went to an HBCU for undergrad and Yale for grad school. Now I busted my ass at the HBCU. I worked full time and took a full load of classes every semester. All of my professors knew this and they still pushed me just as hard if not harder than everyone else. They demanded more from me and it made me work. Yes, I was tired, but I became a man. I excelled and when I graduated, I appreciated my degree and knew I had earned it.

I got into Yale and it was a totally different animal. Supreme comfort in all the transactions and facilities. For the first time I didn't have to work (they actually prevented you from working more than part time). I didn't have to turn in assignments on time, didn't have grades, basically just go to class (sometimes), procrastinate, turn in a viable work product and you were straight. I spent more time in the gym playing basketball and lifting weights than I ever spent in class or studying. Basically I got lazy.

This is what made it difficult for me to initially accept the grind of Law school. Yale not the HBCU. Had I come to Law School straight out of the HBCU, I know I would have been more ready to work hard. This is when I realized that with white schools, its all about reputation. They don't teach you any more information, and are generally not more rigorous than HBCU's. It's just more difficult to get into a bunch of them because of their reputation. That's mostly what carries them now. Hell, Dubya went to Yale Business School. Come on now. :smh::smh::smh:
 
MegaDell said:
I can see why he's supporting his school, but it isn't better than Umich, OSU, UVA, Northwestern, NYU, Penn State, some of the UC's, Texas A&M, William and Mary, I could go on and on.
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And this here...my friends...is the perfect example of a HOUSE NIGGA.

I've made this point on this board once before, but i'll do it once again for those that don't seem to grasp the concept. I am a Howard University graduate...first of all let me ask YOU this...are you aware how many fortune 500 companies have ties with Howard, Hampton, Spelman, Morehouse, FAMU, North Carolina A&T, Prairie View A&M...just to name a few?

Do you really believe going to a white school gives you a better chance in the business world? Because if you do you've pretty much already failed at life. Regardless of WHERE you go to school, jobs want someone who is qualified for the job. And that generally is someone that has interned/co-op while attempting to get their degree.

While at Howard, we were taught everything from the basics...appearance, resume prep, and how to make yourself an asset rather than a liability in the work force. Every month, fortune 500 companies held workshops on campus and offered jobs right on the spot....including Coca-Cola, Apple, IBM, General Motors, and Hitachi...just to name a few. Picture a black college graduate having a job out of college just a few thousand dollars short of 6 figures...with the UGA, GT, Harvard and Georgia State grads working under him that STILL talk down on HBCU's when they answer to ME.

I've said it once and i'll say it again, there are thousands of Harvard, Princeton, Georgia Tech and MIT grads struggling trying to get by..without jobs. Attending those universities often gives you ties to the white collar crowd...but so does my degree. I never had to fill out ONE application once I graduated because I made a good impression on my internship and already had a job waiting when I graduated. The key to success is ambition...something that you have to have YOURSELF...not something any school is going to give you.
 
Sorry buddy, but I didn't name any white school's. Howard and Hampton are examples of school's who decided to slash lines into the ground over the school's race, not my school.

You meet the standards? You get in. You get the best professors, not the best black professors. You interact with the best students, not just the best black students.

And dude, I'm not talking about some uselass ass liberal arts degree. A degree in History isn't worth the paper it's printed on no matter where it has come from.

What exactly is your major? The one that, from what it looks like, you're making 100 grand at least? I wanna pull some rankings.
 
If anything, HBCU's are easier to do well at. For some reason, I was balling out at Howard. I had a 3.6 going in to my sophomore yr, then I transfered to Ga. Southern, and my shit dropped to a 2.6. State schools drag you across your work. Real talk though, only reason I didn't stay at a HBCU was because I didn't want my folks paying all that money when I could go to a state school for less than half of an HBCU tuition.
 
From reading teh article and some of the replies, I can definitely see how this can strike a nerve with some folks. From the articles standpoint, I will say that unfortunately there was a catch 22 when the civil rights act was passed along with the advent of integration and affirmative action. You have to give something to get something. Alot of HBCU's, as posters stated, had to either become private or allow for more non-black minority students to get some type of money from the state level. Once I read the portion regarding the supreme court decision, I already knew what their intent was: If white folks cant have an all white learning environment and get state and federal funding, then neither can black folks...Just how shit is..

The one thing that is disheartening is the fact of how those put in charge of running HBCU's have damn near ran some of these schools into the ground due to misuse, mishandling, and mismanagement of funds (whether coming from alumnus, the state, donors, etc.). That is just fucked up. I remember a couple years back they were talking about shutting either grambling or southern down due to its mismanagement. A couple of schools have also got its accreditation pulled for the same reason.

In terms of the quality of education and learning environment HBCU's provide, I wouldnt know because I attended a predominantly white university..Ive heard people voice their complaints (my school was near morgan state ) about how morgan was run. But I do know that morgan has the best engineering and I think nursing program in the state of maryland. So like others stated it comes down to what school has THE BEST PROGRAM/FIELD OF STUDY for what you want to learn and pursue your career ambitions in. Dont believe in the whole pred. white schools are the best way to go. Believe you me I dont even acknowledge the fact that I graduated from the school I got my degree at. The administration used to piss me off like it wasnt nothing and it wasnt anything racial because the white folks used to complain just as much...
 
FAMU Class of 98 here now i'm a doctor. It has it's good and bads. Niggas selling cocaine out of paddyfoote and Young hall, yes it was like living in the projects for a little while until I moved off campus as a Jr. But if you stay focused and don't let the pussy and mayhem take you over then you'll be aiight. Only thing is I like a little more variety in my hoes. I grew up in a majority black area so when I went to FAM I wasn't thinking outside the box. It was only until I went to Med School out here in CALI that I started to appreciate the different fine shades of pussy that exist.
 
After images like in Spike Lee's School Days, the black college reps took a hit, and the intentions of many students became that of a party atmosphere. This mentality and too much focus on marching bands, parties, hoes and frats ruins the perception.
 
Also another thing...people always talk about harvard this and yale that..two of the most "prestigous" schools in our country...Im sorry but any school that produced this
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Isnt that prestigous nor looked upon highly in my book in terms of quality of education...
 
I would like to sum up this thread by saying an analogy. Um...Um...


GOING TO A WHITE COLLEGE IS LIKE A WHITE FATHER RAISING A BLACK CHILD!

It can work! But there are certain lessons that will never be taught.........
 
Sometimes They Are Sometimes They Are Not, It Depends On The Person.
 
Trojan_Large said:
Don't go to Shaw U !!! :smh::smh::smh::puke::puke::puke:

No need to ask why :smh::smh:
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Shaw is a queer prison camp :smh: :puke:


Anyway, if you went to an HBCU and just partied, chased pussy, or joined a frat solely to raise your social status, you were sorely misguided. Your priority should be to receive the best education you can, and the instructors are willing to give you that if you are willing to receive it and work hard. I've seen both sides of the fence going to both a black school for undergrad and a white school for grad, and I can safely say that if the black schools were receiving the same kinds of endowments and kickbacks that the white schools receive, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Hampton's endowment is less than 300 million dollars whereas Columbia's is damn near 6 or 7 billion. If Hampton had that kind of cheese, I guarantee that the food would be better, the dorms up to date, each dept. would have its own building, the athletic facilities would be more extensive, long lines for financial aid would be all but eliminated, and there would be less restriction on everything because they could cover their asses more effectively. Money would make the machine run smoother. Mismanagement of funds has never been an issue because Harvey is a fucking businessman; often cold hearted as far as student concerns, but frugal nonetheless.
 
BeatDownRecords said:
Depends on who you ask.. For me it was cool, however they will fuck up your financial aid royally :smh:
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fuckin right! HBCUs suck! most of them niggas got "A Different World" & "Drumline" fantasies. i went to Prairie View for a year, got fed up with tha BS and transfered to UH. they are like the last dinosaurs from a time in the past. they have no place. the original post said that HBCUs make it better for blacks to learn advanced sciences. dont that mean the shit aint as hard. no offense to anyone who graduated from them. but can you honestly say that you worked harder for that shit than a black person at a white school? i dont know bout morehouse. but back in texas a degree from PV, or TSU is a fuckin joke. u dont believe me look at how research grants go to HBCUs as opposed to "white" schools.

University Of Miami B.S. Biology/Chemistry '01
 

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