The Black KKK? Isn't that a little harsh?

[Kubrick]

It's an idiotic analogy. It downplays what a heinous terrorist organization the KKK is and treats random acts of violence as a concerted effort perpetuated by AA against one another. These scumbags who are committing crimes against other blacks probably don't have a color preference; they would rob/kill/steal from anyone in close proximity to them.

When the Black KKK becomes organized and starts targeting only other blacks for intimidation to perpetuate white supremacy through lynching,burning people alive and other acts of random violence, all the while having local law enforcement backing, then maybe I can understand the analogy. Until then
it's just a bullshit analogy without any substance.

 

[water]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Water color on paper titled "Punishing Negroes at Cathabouco [i.e., Calabouco], Rio de Janeiro"; shows unclothed black man tied to stake, being whipped by another black supervised by a white man.[/FONT][/FONT]

The survival of the black man with the whip is based on punishing other blacks WHILE SUPERVISED BY WHITES with superior fire power.

Oppression is a science perfected by the white man.


I need to email this post to this fool






http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=121830

 

[hart]

this fool works for FOX SPORTS NEWS

enough said

he has sold his "SOUL" a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time AGO

this fool is as irrelevant as BLUNT

ignore this motherfucker like a NYC rat and keep it moving

 

[UnoBetter2]

If you go to india, who is killing the indians?

OTHER INDIANS.

GO to china same shit. Chinese kill chinese.

Somehow we are supposed to be "better" then any other group?

When poor folks are fed up, they prey on others that tend to "look like them", that is human history.

Unless you build an army and invade a region that is different from yours, but most crime is done to others by the same group.

Most cases of violence agaisnt whites in this country, are done by..............................other white people.

Enough with this "black on black" crime bullshit, we need to deal in reality.

One reality is fuck the criminals amoungst us, how do WE protect ourselves from them?

1. Be aware
2. Arm yourself

Folks may disagree, but since crime will always be, calling it "black on black" is redundant.

In poor circles all around the globe the same thing is happening within ethnic or racial groups, but we ant to label it instead of just saying................

We have a high ass crime rate in our community due to system racism in this country.

Leave the "black on black" shit out of it.

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH THIS B.S.!! Just because other races are killin each other that makes it ok for us to blow each other away! Whether poor, oppressed or pissed on by society, that is no excuse to victimize those next to you who are subject to the same conditions. Give me a brake! I just read the article that Asshole Whitlok wrote and to be honest I dont care for the brotha but, his choice of words has put this in perspective i.e. "BLACK KKK". This quote......

"When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions."

....makes it clear that we are victimizing each other more in our freedom than white folks did in our oppression. That in and of itself is insane! In reading this thread alone theres more slams against Whitlok's choice of words to raise awareness than there is awareness of what he is trying to convey! Like I said I dont like the brotha but, he has hit a vain with this one. Even here good sense fails us and we're being fool by distractions and ill thought through rationalizations!

And then theres this quote....

Let's cut through the bull(manure) and deal with reality. Black men are targets of black men. Period. Go check the coroner's office and talk with a police detective.

Lastly:
I dont care if the Indians are killin each other!
I dont care if the chineese are cuttin each others heads off!
I dont care if Muslims are blowing each other up!
But I do care if my Son's who I have worked my ass off to make sure that they have a chance to make in this crazy ass world are victimized simply because they are black men and trying to do the right thing!! Its easy to take up arms believe me I know how to do that, check my thread...http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=188111&highlight=buying+gun. But, why is it so hard to band together as brotha's to defeat the very oppression that is victimizing us all instead of victimizing each other! That's not so easy to do but it is what needs to be done!

 

[femmenoire]

It's an idiotic analogy. It downplays what a heinous terrorist organization the KKK is and treats random acts of violence as a concerted effort perpetuated by AA against one another. These scumbags who are committing crimes against other blacks probably don't have a color preference; they would rob/kill/steal from anyone in close proximity to them.

When the Black KKK becomes organized and starts targeting only other blacks for intimidation to perpetuate white supremacy through lynching,burning people alive and other acts of random violence, all the while having local law enforcement backing, then maybe I can understand the analogy. Until then
it's just a bullshit analogy without any substance.

NOW THAT WAS MY ISSUE TO BEGIN WITH.

Thank you.

 

[water]

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH THIS B.S.!! Just because other races are killin each other that makes it ok for us to blow each other away! Whether poor, oppressed or pissed on by society, that is no excuse to victimize those next to you who are subject to the same conditions. Give me a brake! I just read the article that Asshole Whitlok wrote and to be honest I dont care for the brotha but, his choice of words has put this in perspective i.e. "BLACK KKK".

First off, let me honor your request:

This should be planted firmly in your head.................


Have you ever heard of logic???


Try using it and "brake" down your post into points and notice how silly they are...........

I wouldn't even go into them.

 

[water]

NOW THAT WAS MY ISSUE TO BEGIN WITH.

Thank you.

I see that you got home safe............ was wondering where you ran off to

 

[commingatya]

NOT HARSH ENOUGH.IF A WHITE DUDE KILLS A BLACK DUDE ITS NATIONAL NEWS,IF A BLACK KILLS A BLACK WE JUST ACCEPT IT.NO PROTEST NO OUTCRY.WE CAN COME TOGETHER BY THE THOUSANDS TO PROTEST THE JENA6 BULLSHIT OR THE RUTGERS BULLSHIT BUT WHEN COMES TO BLACK ON BLACK CRIME WE JUST SAY "HEY WHAT DO YOU EXPECT".WHITE PEOPLE AND OTHER CULTURES LOOK AT HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER AND FIGURE THEY CAN TREAT US THE SAME WAY.WE AS BLACK PEOPLE THINK WE ARE THE BADDEST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET BUT WHEN COMES DOWN TO PROVING IT ALL WE DO IS SHOOT EACH OTHER NOBODY FIGHTS ANYMORE.

 

[dlow]

i called him a coon because of his presentation. the whole idea that hip hop is the cause of all the problems in the ghetto. bullshit. we been killin each other before hip hop was created. plus, the whole black kkk idea is clever, but offensive.

Really, You must be young but I will remind you of a time when the most dangerous thing in America was looking at a white women. This was before our true freedom in the 60's. This was before black on black crime was an epidemic. Then when we got our freedom to be all we can be we took up the cause of the Klan and started destroying our own culture, in the big cities. Then hip hop came along and white America beamed that image into the burbs and the country while moving the crack along with it. I grew up in the 70's and 80's. The only place I heard shit like that was from hip hop. Did it cause anything to happen? No, did it cause a lot of young men to lose focus on what being black and freedom was about. Hell yes. It was an easy sell after that.

Do I like the term black KKK, no. Have I been saying that type of shit on this board, Yes. Is what he said true, yes. Maybe we need to here that shit in a term that offends. Will it do any good? Probably not, the real coonasses have come on this board to denounce another brother speaking the truth.

 

[water]

NOT HARSH ENOUGH.IF A WHITE DUDE KILLS A BLACK DUDE ITS NATIONAL NEWS,IF A BLACK KILLS A BLACK WE JUST ACCEPT IT.NO PROTEST NO OUTCRY.WE CAN COME TOGETHER BY THE THOUSANDS TO PROTEST THE JENA6 BULLSHIT OR THE RUTGERS BULLSHIT BUT WHEN COMES TO BLACK ON BLACK CRIME WE JUST SAY "HEY WHAT DO YOU EXPECT".WHITE PEOPLE AND OTHER CULTURES LOOK AT HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER AND FIGURE THEY CAN TREAT US THE SAME WAY.WE AS BLACK PEOPLE THINK WE ARE THE BADDEST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET BUT WHEN COMES DOWN TO PROVING IT ALL WE DO IS SHOOT EACH OTHER NOBODY FIGHTS ANYMORE.

"IF A BLACK KILLS A BLACK"









Shut up whiteboy..................


Why doesn't the white community speak out against the high rate of pedophiles amongst them????

Don't let me have to pull out the stats because they are very readily available........

 

[DANGEROUSBLACKMAN]

Well He Does Have A Point, A Black Person Or Persons Was Not Who Killed Him, It Was A Nigga Or Niggas It's A Difference.

 

[housefly]

Its Jason Whitlock...ever since he left ESPN hes been writing some coontastic shit trying to please crackas. Hes the Uncle Ruckus/Clarence Thomas of sports writing world. Dont be suprised about this. Look at his past articles and you will see why everyone hates his fat ass

Yo if we cant be outraged by one of our own getting killed by
another black man then I don't know what to say. It seems like we are more offended when whitey hears real talk. I love my people but we got some cats that want to make to grand dragon status. Like me he is just another frustrated black man talking what he feels.

 

[water]

Really, You must be young but I will remind you of a time when the most dangerous thing in America was looking at a white women. This was before our true freedom in the 60's. This was before black on black crime was an epidemic. Then when we got our freedom to be all we can be we took up the cause of the Klan and started destroying our own culture, in the big cities. Then hip hop came along and white America beamed that image into the burbs and the country while moving the crack along with it. I grew up in the 70's and 80's. The only place I heard shit like that was from hip hop. Did it cause anything to happen? No, did it cause a lot of young men to lose focus on what being black and freedom was about. Hell yes. It was an easy sell after that.

Do I like the term black KKK, no. Have I been saying that type of shit on this board, Yes. Is what he said true, yes. Maybe we need to here that shit in a term that offends. Will it do any good? Probably not, the real coonasses have come on this board to denounce another brother speaking the truth.

Maybe you need a class on causation vs correlation.







Question:

1. Based on IQ scores in the last 30 years, is it fair to say that black people are less intelligent than white people?

2. 100% of Catholic priests who fondled little boys were white. Is it safe to say if a white boy becomes a catholic priest, he will become a pedophile?

3. Considering the fraph below, is it safe to say homicides are a national problem or is it just a black problem

4. If it is a national problem, is it safe to say that there may be common factors that may contribute to the homicide rate in the black community?

5. if the white on white homicide rate is higher for whites, can you put forward ONE (1) reason why you think it is NEVER mentioned in the print, radio or TV media?




Thanks a million............

 

[gene cisco]

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH THIS B.S.!! Just because other races are killin each other that makes it ok for us to blow each other away! Whether poor, oppressed or pissed on by society, that is no excuse to victimize those next to you who are subject to the same conditions. Give me a brake! I just read the article that Asshole Whitlok wrote and to be honest I dont care for the brotha but, his choice of words has put this in perspective i.e. "BLACK KKK". This quote......

"When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions."

....makes it clear that we are victimizing each other more in our freedom than white folks did in our oppression. That in and of itself is insane! In reading this thread alone theres more slams against Whitlok's choice of words to raise awareness than there is awareness of what he is trying to convey! Like I said I dont like the brotha but, he has hit a vain with this one. Even here good sense fails us and we're being fool by distractions and ill thought through rationalizations!

And then theres this quote....

Let's cut through the bull(manure) and deal with reality. Black men are targets of black men. Period. Go check the coroner's office and talk with a police detective.

Lastly:
I dont care if the Indians are killin each other!
I dont care if the chineese are cuttin each others heads off!
I dont care if Muslims are blowing each other up!
But I do care if my Son's who I have worked my ass off to make sure that they have a chance to make in this crazy ass world are victimized simply because they are black men and trying to do the right thing!! Its easy to take up arms believe me I know how to do that, check my thread...http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=188111&highlight=buying+gun. But, why is it so hard to band together as brotha's to defeat the very oppression that is victimizing us all instead of victimizing each other! That's not so easy to do but it is what needs to be done!

Domestic= region

Also, who lies to their parents, THEIR CHILDREN. "Crime" starts within the nearest victim and then goes further.

So using all this balck on black bullshit our children shouldnt even try to stay up past 8pm, cause they are so different then other children!!!!!!!!

fuckouttahere

the SYSTEM is MAKING a COMMON PROBLEM OUR PROBLEM, AND THEN PUMPING IT UP!!!!!

Same way they wrote this "all men created equal and left us out.".

 

[water]

[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/_Y9ItOQ4QH0&rel=1[/FLASH]

 

[UnoBetter2]

First off, let me honor your request:

This should be planted firmly in your head.................


Have you ever heard of logic???


Try using it and "brake" down your post into points and notice how silly they are...........

I wouldn't even go into them.

Dont get lazy now you posted your points and I simply replied! Thats why we call this a forum, right? Like you said: 1.Be Aware, 2. Arm Youself, because here, someone will reply to what you say and you better be ready to step on the gas or hit the brakes. So since your hittin the brakes I wont reply to anymore of your babblings.

 

[water]

Dont get lazy now you posted your points and I simply replied! Thats why we call this a forum, right? Like you said: 1.Be Aware, 2. Arm Youself, because here, someone will reply to what you say and you better be ready to step on the gas or hit the brakes. So since your hittin the brakes I wont reply to anymore of your babblings.

Next time think BEFORE you post..............

try it, it works

 

[femmenoire]

I see that you got home safe............ was wondering where you ran off to

Thank you! Yeah now I'm chillin catchin up on this thread.

 

[Yogi Bear]

Stop getting hung up on "Black KKK". He used that to get attention to his article. If he used the "black plague" or another name for the black on black crime that we are all desensitized to he would have not recieved all the attention he has for this article which is a true commentary on life as a black person in America. Great message wrong messenger.


Saying black on black crime means nothing anymore we are all desensitized to it because all we here is another black man gunned down, stabbed or robbed.

The sad fact is nothing will change.

 

[water]

Stop getting hung up on "Black KKK". He used that to get attention to his article. If he used the "black plague" or another name for the black on black crime that we are all desensitized to he would have not recieved all the attention he has for this article which is a true commentary on life as a black person in America. Great message wrong messenger.


Saying black on black crime means nothing anymore we are all desensitized to it because all we here is another black man gunned down, stabbed or robbed.

The sad fact is nothing will change.

Please see #5


5. If the white on white homicide rate is higher for whites, can you put forward ONE (1) reason why you think it is NEVER mentioned in the print, radio or TV media?

 

[UnoBetter2]

Stop getting hung up on "Black KKK". He used that to get attention to his article. If he used the "black plague" or another name for the black on black crime that we are all desensitized to he would have not recieved all the attention he has for this article which is a true commentary on life as a black person in America. Great message wrong messenger.


Saying black on black crime means nothing anymore we are all desensitized to it because all we here is another black man gunned down, stabbed or robbed.

The sad fact is nothing will change.

Thank You, well said!

 

[Lurker 2007]

Damn, This thread is deep.

Alright I read this article and shit is fucked up.

1. Whitlock is airing black people cultural and social problems off of Taylor's death. (unintentional disrespect)

2. He labeled black on black crime the Black KKK.(It like when slang used by black people was termed ebonics)

After thinking about it for a minute, Whitlock make some valid points and some really dumb points, but expressing his opinion in the media ......... questionable. Black people got there problem, but were fighting more than just one war. We dealing with racial bullshit as well as our own internal problems. My problem is Whitlock put out in the media for them to shit and discredit us whenever another black man fucks up. He basically gave them more fuel to work with and also discredits the black race publicly. We already got an image problem publicly with OJ and Vick without this bullshit.

 

[King of Pain]

Call it "Hating" or what what have you, but we are killing ourselves. One of the other posters spoke of how each race kills their kind so why should we be different. I think its because in this society it didn't start out this way. We had a common foe...the slave master. Yes there were those of us that told where the slaves were hiding, but they weren't the majority. These days it seems not only do we have to contend with racism and a fractured sense of family and community, we also have an enemy thats as vicious as those outside of the culture. Us. And yes there is racism and its a beast, but I doubt we'll ever truly be a part of this society in the eyes of many and that racism will persist and is to be expected and dealt with accordingly. But what do you do when your "brother" becomes the enemy? If I point that out am I a coon or a hater? If I don't agree with thuggery thinking or want to escape poverty does that make me less black? Ok the term "Black KKK" is put out there to cause controversy and sell papers, but much of what was in the article was on point. So Femm I don't know whats harsher the title of the article, or the facts contained in it.

 

[bfreezy]

I'm just waiting for someone to burglarize Whitlock's home and shoot him in the leg while at it...see what he has to say then...Uncle Tom mother fucker.

 

[phillyphilly]

Thank you Sir.

A voice of reason..............

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm


Wonder why this doesnt make the news?

We wonder.

 

[Leeeeeee]

^^^^ Gene.................. nothing but the truth bro



Racism has a material foundation: capitalism and the profit system, and it must be fought, not justified.

And if you win that fight; what system do you suggest capitalism is replaced with: communism? socialism?

 

[actinanass]

Ask yourself this... is he wrong?

I just recently posted this in another thread and he touches on some the same things I posted.

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=213560&page=2

When are we gonna look ourselves in the mirror and end this? Already 4 to 5 posts in, people have called this guy a coon... and the only given reason why, is because people are emotionally tied, and he has gone against the standard. Follow suit if you must, but know things like this won't stop happening if we keep turning the blind eye and siding with our own.

Has he said anything but the truth?

Every time I see a post that basically tells the die hard truth about us, I tend to see lame criticism like the person is wrong for saying how he feel. In a lot of ways, even the most PRO BLACK can act like the most ANTI black. We need to stop being so damn petty all the damn time. Plus, how can you call anyone a coon if they don't believe in what you believe in. In all honestly, thats more racist than a white dude spitting in your face, and dropping the n-bomb on ya. I mean damn, some of ya'll don't respect your own kind when they don't agree with you. Thats some lame shit if you ask me....

MY 2cents...

 

[water]

^^^^ Gene.................. nothing but the truth bro



Racism has a material foundation: capitalism and the profit system, and it must be fought, not justified.

And if you win that fight; what system do you suggest capitalism is replaced with: communism? socialism?

What incentive is there to help the underclass in a capitalistic society?

America's poverty rate is 23% and growing. These are people who live with us here in America. They are going nowhere.

What incentive is there for companies to keep jobs in America instead of outsourcing them to China, Mexico, Honduras, Indonesia, Malaysia etc....

In every industry.........outsourcing

At what point does it stop?




Do you know that England emptied its jails in Australia and thus Australia as we know it was formed?

Do know that the Dutch emptied their jails in Suriname.

Where do you suggest we dump the 2 million people in jail so we could start over jailing more people?






I'm saying that capitalism is the foundation on which the house of racism/white supremacy/white privilege stands.

If it did not benefit white people do you really think they would be fighting to preserve their white privilege?




The next time a white person say that they are not racist, ask them what they have done to NOT receive the automatic benefits of living in this racist society.................

Have they gone to the bank and asked for the interest rate given to blacks?

Have they asked for the same salary that their black counterpart receives which is lower that what they currently get?

Have they pleaded with the cops to arrest them for weed/drugs, traffic violations at the same rate blacks are incarcerated for the same crimes?

Have they asked a judge for the same sentence that the judge would have given a black person?

Have they ever marched against injustice?

Have they spoken out against injustice?

Anything else is lip service while they collect the benefits of this racist society.....


Real talk.

 

[Leeeeeee]

What incentive is there to help the underclass in a capitalistic society?

America's poverty rate is 23% and growing. These are people who live with us here in America. They are going nowhere.

What incentive is there for companies to keep jobs in America instead of outsourcing them to China, Mexico, Honduras, Indonesia, Malaysia etc....

In every industry.........outsourcing

At what point does it stop?




Do you know that England emptied its jails in Australia and thus Australia as we know it was formed?

Do know that the Dutch emptied their jails in Suriname.

Where do you suggest we dump the 2 million people in jail so we could start over jailing more people?






I'm saying that capitalism is the foundation on which the house of racism/white supremacy/white privilege stands.

If it did not benefit white people do you really think they would be fighting to preserve their white privilege?




The next time a white person say that they are not racist, ask them what they have done to NOT receive the automatic benefits of living in this racist society.................

Have they gone to the bank and asked for the interest rate given to blacks?

Have they asked for the same salary that their black counterpart receives which is lower that what they currently get?

Have they pleaded with the cops to arrest them for weed/drugs, traffic violations at the same rate blacks are incarcerated for the same crimes?

Have they asked a judge for the same sentence that the judge would have given a black person?

Have they ever marched against injustice?

Have they spoken out against injustice?

Anything else is lip service while they collect the benefits of this racist society.....


Real talk.

Thought maybe you had already reasoned out another system to replace capitalism with, rather than just graphs and talk.

My bad.

 

[water]

Thought maybe you had already reasoned out another system to replace capitalism with, rather than just graphs and talk.

My bad.

Hey at least graphs+talk > talk





Is there a point you would like to make?

Or you love to see me type?

 

[Leeeeeee]

Hey at least graphs+talk > talk





Is there a point you would like to make?

Or you love to see me type?

No bruh, you love to type.

Fighting for the sake of fighting serves no purpose. You say capitalism must be fought. What if you win that fight? What is your plan for replacing the capitalist system, or have you thought that far ahead.

 

[water]

No bruh, you love to type.

Fighting for the sake of fighting serves no purpose. You say capitalism must be fought. What if you win that fight? What is your plan for replacing the capitalist system, or have you thought that far ahead.

Are you a lawyer?????

Seriously...............


This is what I said:


Racism has a material foundation: capitalism and the profit system, and it must be fought, not justified.


Notice the punctuation marks.

Racism has a material foundation: capitalism and the profit system.

Racism must be fought, not justified.


Clearer now?

Thanks for clearing that up.

Who knows who else may have mis-interpreted.........

 

[icqpimp]

Difficult to argue with him on this one but "The Black KKK" isn't accurate IMO.

You're right. I'm sure over the years niggas have killed more niggas that the Klan has. So if anything this dude is being too flattering.

lol, exactly

 

[icqpimp]

definitely a coon. but some of his points are valid. the black kkk is kind of harsh, but sometimes black people need that kick before we start to do anything. we won't recognize when the police kill us on a regular basis, but when he's shot 41 times we finally get outraged. it's ignorance, one of the worst diseases of all.

Black kkk ain't hardly fuckin' harsh. Black people be actin' worse than white peopletowards each other. (That means black people act worse towards blacks than whites or any other race act towards blacks) We act like WE white and the blacks that we dislike are blacks. Actin' like we a fukin' bove each other. He is a bitch, Jason Whitlock, but he could be my best friend, he could be shigeru miyamoto, what the fuck he said was true. Simple as fuckin' sayin' it. What he said was on point. That self-hatred bullshit manifests itself in ugly ways, this being the worst.

 

[icqpimp]

Peace.

I understand what you mean. Let's not take this too far out of context though.

What he means by "hip hop" is the cause of these problems, is not solely directed at music and culture itself. But let's look at reality. Kids glorify music. Record companies understand this, which is why they exploit them. I'd strengthen his argument to say that rap music FUELS this current onslaught, rather than be the sole determining factor.

When you hear that "bang bang shoot 'em up nigga die slow" music all day every day it kinda desensitize you to the life of another black man. Why you think a nigga will be be quick to murder another nigga but that same ngga would never harm a white crackkkka. Niggas are cowards and our culture is fucked and it's gonna stay that way because blacks are too pussy and afraid of the truth.

A. Motha. Fucking. Men. Furthermore, we talk, they act. Black people, like females, do what we're doing now. Talk. A white person, yes a female also, will act on something. But like you said if a white person says the same shit that a black guy would get killed for, we do nothing but.....cry like bitches. Like females. Let a nigga talk some shit and you'll hunt his ass down like a dog. Genocide 2000.