Report: Police shoot (20 shots), kill man holding hairbrush

[AllState17]

Let me make this crystal clear, fam. If your wife calls you and says that there is a man at your house with a gun, threatening to kill her... You even hear the man in the background himself saying that he has a gun and is going to kill your old lady. You arrive at home carrying a gun of your own and the man is not only talking shit to you, but he coming toward you with an unidentified dark object in his hand. Do you wait to get a closer look at the object in his hand and see if it's really a gun (even though he and your panicking wife have already said he has a gun) or do you pop a hot one in his ass and ask questions later?

Let me make this crystal clear bro. What we would do if our loved ones are threatened, and what trained cops do are two completely unrelated issues. If it was the same thing we would all be cops, no training no nothing, just give us guns and a badge and whatever we do is ok as long as we personally believe someone was at risk.

How about some damn warning shots ??????? That might have solved shit right there. The boy wasnt putting anyone in harms way when they shot him, he was only a threat to himself by that time, even his moms was outside the building.

 

[PEACE1]

Why all this bickering? Dude did not deserve to lose his life period. End of story. Cops were wrong once again.

 

[Actor4Truth]

this aint a movie or video game

Correct...!!!! all the more reason not spray someone up recklessly..! This ain't Grand Theft Auto..!!! Mutha fucka don't got no health packs..!! No flack jacket..!!!!
What is this Baghdad.. shoot to kill a Terrorist, with a bomb strapped on his chest..! It's a 18 year old kid..(all be it he had some mental problems) Who the fuck is gonna get shot 1-3 and still be on some Connan shit.. No you are dropping plan and simple..!! over 10 shots..!

 

[Chuck Nyce]

This kid is NO Amadu Dialo, fam. It's sad that he got merked, but it reads like he and his mother are much to blame for the shooting. If the man's own mother said he has a gun, he's over heard on tape saying he has a gun and saying he has a gun, then he comes walking across the street with a dark object in his hand AFTER screaming on his mom (whom he'd threatened to kill with a gun)... what the fuck would YOU have done if you were one of those cops? Wait for him to shoot first, to see if he was bluffing about having a gun? This sounds more like a 'death by cop' suicide to me.

Bro I dunno if you have ever ran into cops before, but COPS will LIE to cover their ass and the media will SECOND that motion at all costs!!!!!

People like you believe anything and take police reports as facts, remember police do not know the law, they come up with stories to cover their ass and show just cause....think....a hair brush bro? no reports of the man "aiming" no reports of the man screaming at the police claiming to have a gun, even an eye witness said he dropped the brush, then the police fired

 

[Manbot26]

Never call the police on family and loved ones.

Might be your last time seeing them.

Yep... If your child is that bad that you would need to call the cops on him, it's simple don't have them living with you... My brother and I when we were younger used to raise high hell with the fighting each other, it scares me to think what would have happened if my family didn't disarm the situations but instead called the cops...

 

[34real]

GTFOH with that rescuing the cops bullshit. If you cats want to sort through all the conflicting reports to get to the bottom of things, I'm all for it, but I will not automatically assume that 100% of the times a black man is shot by the cops, it's on some Amadu Dialo shit. My critical thinking is not undermined by my racial back ground. That's ridicualous. If the report that I quoted turns out to be false, I'll adjust my opinion accordingly... Until then, it is what it is. I got no more love for NYPD than the next brother, but then my mother never had to call NYPD on me afraid for her life because I threatened to shoot her either. Enough with all the personal slights up in here... Just sort the facts out and keep it movin'.

"If you cats want to sort through all the conflicting reports to get to the bottom of things, I'm all for it"-Thats the only logical and rational thing you've said so far in this post.That all bullshit your talking about is just garbage thats building up in a post like this.

I dont have an opinion,yet but with the nypd history and alot of unknown facts about what really happened,theres alot of question mark's..?..?..?

Ive had to call the police and tell em that someone might have a gun or what looks like a weapon,just to get there ass's out there.

 

[RBGrider]

Are you illiterate, son?

Yes. And you know just what I'm saying don't you.

First of all police are designated liars. Designated liars. If you've ever heard police testify in a court room you know this. There is THUNDERING evidence that the police routinely shoot and kill unarmed Black people. Given these facts why, if you are Black, would you jump to the conclusion that this was justified or the brothers fault; ie "death by cop" or whatever type of bullshit they come up with to explain away our deaths??

Cops are an oppressive force in our community all arguments to the contrary and labored to the point of being totally ridiculous.

 

[BDR]

Damn shame none of ya'll no shit I live 1 block down from where this happened no one said he had a gun 1 officer shot at him while he was climbing out of the window 1 shot hit him that's when the other officers took shots and while they were shooting the sergant ask why are you shooting and to cease fire but by that time the damage was already done. And for the one who said something about that area don't nothing happen down there but weed sales get ya facts straight before you start talking things you don't know cop's knew kid was unarmed why because we heard the cop's say so. I live on Gates & lewis it happend in 590 gates & throop not 900 playboy don't even exsit. But you know something it's not your fault the news have you speaking like this editing is a mofo but if something like this was to happen around you or where you live please report the facts so the news don't have people thinking like this.

Dude you buggin there was 2 so called witnesses all up in the T.V and news cameras talking bout that dude had a gun but when he got shot he wasn't armed. Now whatever the case we know cops tend to lie to cover their asses, now whether that stupid ass girl slipped up and meant to say that dude didn't have a gun period she done fucked up because the NYPD will use that to say "yes there was jusitification in the shooting because witnesses said he had a gun and his mother said he threatened to shoot her"

I'm not defending NYPD but I'm just saying.


And on a side note you right it was 590 gates but don't tell me I don't know about the Area when I grow up right there on Halsey and Troop, fuck is you talking about playboy!!!!

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

Let me make this crystal clear bro. What we would do if our loved ones are threatened, and what trained cops do are two completely unrelated issues. If it was the same thing we would all be cops, no training no nothing, just give us guns and a badge and whatever we do is ok as long as we personally believe someone was at risk.

How about some damn warning shots ??????? That might have solved shit right there. The boy wasnt putting anyone in harms way when they shot him, he was only a threat to himself by that time, even his moms was outside the building.

The analogy was to establish perspective NOT procedure. Obviously a trained cop's procedure should be different from the average person's course of action, but that does not change the fact that cops are human and prone to see things from a human perspective.

Your take on the events is in contrast from not only the reports, but even the eye witness (in the video) on the scene said that the mother was yelling the kid has a gun and is trying to escape out the window.

Point blank: That kid has himself and/or possibly his mom to thank for being dead more so than the cops in this case... BASED ON THE EVIDENCE I'VE READ SO FAR. I know that sounds cold blooded, but there's a reason a woman calls the notorious for shooting unarmed Black men NYPD on her own son and tells them he is armed, dangerous and trying to kill her. She had to know that her actions would more likely than unlikely lead to this. Let's say the cops over reacted... They over reacted within a context that was set by the mother's words and the son's subsequent actions. This is no Amadu Dialo case IMO.

 

[Alderuhen]

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/Ewkp9uYAYvQ[/flash]

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

"If you cats want to sort through all the conflicting reports to get to the bottom of things, I'm all for it"-Thats the only logical and rational thing you've said so far in this post.That all bullshit your talking about is just garbage thats building up in a post like this.

I dont have an opinion,yet but with the nypd history and alot of unknown facts about what really happened,theres alot of question mark's..?..?..?

Ive had to call the police and tell em that someone might have a gun or what looks like a weapon,just to get there ass's out there.

Please, clown. If I transplanted just one of my brain cells with one of yours it would pop your head clean off your shoulders, cuz. Step your debate game up before you embarass yourself. I see you're already rolling out the emoticons... tsk, tsk... a clearly ameture tactic. Come again, son.

 

[divine]

You try to come across as intelligent, but in reality, you're an idiot. An that, my friend, is unfortunate.

The analogy was to establish perspective NOT procedure. Obviously a trained cop's procedure should be different from the average person's course of action, but that does not change the fact that cops are human and prone to see things from a human perspective.

Your take on the events is in contrast from not only the reports, but even the eye witness (in the video) on the scene said that the mother was yelling the kid has a gun and is trying to escape out the window.

Point blank: That kid has himself and/or possibly his mom to thank for being dead more so than the cops in this case... BASED ON THE EVIDENCE I'VE READ SO FAR. I know that sounds cold blooded, but there's a reason a woman calls the notorious for shooting unarmed Black men NYPD on her own son and tells them he is armed, dangerous and trying to kill her. She had to know that her actions would more likely than unlikely lead to this. Let's say the cops over reacted... They over reacted within a context that was set by the mother's words and the son's subsequent actions. This is no Amadu Dialo case IMO.

 

[BDR]

The analogy was to establish perspective NOT procedure. Obviously a trained cop's procedure should be different from the average person's course of action, but that does not change the fact that cops are human and prone to see things from a human perspective.

Your take on the events is in contrast from not only the reports, but even the eye witness (in the video) on the scene said that the mother was yelling the kid has a gun and is trying to escape out the window.

Point blank: That kid has himself and/or possibly his mom to thank for being dead more so than the cops in this case... BASED ON THE EVIDENCE I'VE READ SO FAR. I know that sounds cold blooded, but there's a reason a woman calls the notorious for shooting unarmed Black men NYPD on her own son and tells them he is armed, dangerous and trying to kill her. She had to know that her actions would more likely than unlikely lead to this. Let's say the cops over reacted... They over reacted within a context that was set by the mother's words and the son's subsequent actions. This is no Amadu Dialo case IMO.

Are you a umos? if not don't assume what type of training is administered because you have no idea.

 

[Mo Pizorn]

Here are the facts. We have:
1 dead kid
no gun
1 hairbrush
20 shots fired by the holice.


Nuff said.
Lesson learned - if you call the pigs in NYC, somebody will probably end up dead.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

You try to come across as intelligent, but in reality, you're an idiot. An that, my friend, is unfortunate.

**crickets chirping**

Are you a umos? if not don't assume what type of training is administered because you have no idea.

What does this statement have to do with what I said? Where did you see me state that I have any idea what type of training is administered. My statement was in response to a statement about training. My original point was about how context influences human perspective... not police procedure. So again I ask, what does your reply have to do with the quote of mine that you replied to?

 

[BigUnc]

This was a police killing plain and simple. most likely brought about by one officer.

Lets review what is known so far

1. Mom calls mental health authorities about son.
2. Mental health authorities arrive at house about son. obviously they think there is a problem if they make house call and wait 2 hrs.
3. Son returns and some type of altercation happens with mom.
4. Mom calls police
5. Police arrive and has son hemmed up in bedroom alone possibly armed. Mom is safe. If police were competent mental health problems would have come to light and passed on to all officers on the scene.
6.Son/suspect exits through window. this is where the conflicting stories begin.police fall back on old standby excuse of object in hand or waistband. other witnesses on scene dispute that saying he dropped object then was shot. Police fire numerous shots but according to one witness and I believe the key witness 1 officer fired repeatedly.

My take on it so far is out of control officer cut loose and the others joined in or some variation on that scenario.

No matter what he should not have been shot.

 

[Mo Pizorn]

I'm just waiting for the day to come when the police shoot a naked, unarmed man and try to say he had a gun.

 

[34real]

Please, clown. If I transplanted just one of my brain cells with one of yours it would pop your head clean off your shoulders, cuz. Step your debate game up before you embarass yourself. I see you're already rolling out the emoticons... tsk, tsk... a clearly ameture tactic. Come again, son.

Enough of the buffoonery.

 

[KINGFROMQUEENS]

If the Fuckin PIGS didn't fuck up.. why did they cuff a dead.. bullet riddled black man and put him in the back of a police car..!! They fuckin handcuffed him after he was allready shot dead...!!!! Please someone dare to justify this type of bullshit... NYPD= Ninja Killers.. Day after Day after Day.. When will the shit stop..?

IT IS POLICE PROCEDURE TO HAND CUFF ANY SUSPECT THAT HAS BEEN SHOT.

 

[shanebp1978]

It's very unfortunate but the dude kinda walked right into that shit .

I wish you would walk right into my house through my back door.

Never mind the splinters, and the fact that it looks kinda off the hinges. That purpose will come later.

Just walk right on in facing me. Your invited. Oh, and pick up that large scary kitchen knife on the island there.

Thanks.

 

[divine]

IT IS POLICE PROCEDURE TO HAND CUFF ANY SUSPECT THAT HAS BEEN SHOT.

Can you please post any official documentation of this procedure?

 

[divine]

Fam, help me out here.. WHO IS THIS ASIAN DUDE Ming Fei Hong?

**crickets chirping**



What does this statement have to do with what I said? Where did you see me state that I have any idea what type of training is administered. My statement was in response to a statement about training. My original point was about how context influences human perspective... not police procedure. So again I ask, what does your reply have to do with the quote of mine that you replied to?

 

[KINGFROMQUEENS]

Can you please post any official documentation of this procedure?

NO I CANT. BUT I HAVE BEEN WITH THE NYPD GOING ON 17 YEARS AND I AM TELLING YOU THIS IS WHAT IS DONE . ITS JUST NOT THE NYPD , MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY DO IT.

 

[BigUnc]

Can you please post any official documentation of this procedure?

From my experience I can say this is done routinely until the arrival of paramedics who then decide if he/she needs the patient out of the cuffs for treatment. Since the police transported the victim to the hospital I can't say what that procedure is.

 

[Mo Pizorn]

NO I CANT. BUT I HAVE BEEN WITH THE NYPD GOING ON 17 YEARS AND I AM TELLING YOU THIS IS WHAT IS DONE . ITS JUST NOT THE NYPD , MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY DO IT.

That's true. Although it seems extremely disrespectful to the recently deceased, especially the ones that were slaughtered by bacon boys, its pretty standard in most major cities at least.

 

[KINGFROMQUEENS]

Just So You Guys Know And Since I Do Have An Inside Track On This With Out All The Media Bullshit Ans 1/2 Stories , There Are Civilian Witnesses That Are Backing The Police Story.

 

[michigantoga]

Never call the police on family and loved ones.

Might be your last time seeing them.

Deal with it yourself. She called them on her 18 year old son & now he's dead. I'm 33 & I don't give a fuck how hype I might get with my Moms. (If I had the balls) She would beat my Ass & she's 74. From Enterprise Alabama.

 

[BigUnc]

Just So You Guys Know And Since I Do Have An Inside Track On This With Out All The Media Bullshit Ans 1/2 Stories , There Are Civilian Witnesses That Are Backing The Police Story.

Which story would that be?

 

[BDR]

Just So You Guys Know And Since I Do Have An Inside Track On This With Out All The Media Bullshit Ans 1/2 Stories , There Are Civilian Witnesses That Are Backing The Police Story.

This is what I tried to tell some of these simps in here but they refuse to see that. Witnesses who have admitted on the news to reporters that this kid HAD a gun but when he was shot he wasn't armed. Thats used for justification alone

 

[Actor4Truth]

From my experience I can say this is done routinely until the arrival of paramedics who then decide if he/she needs the patient out of the cuffs for treatment. Since the police transported the victim to the hospital I can't say what that procedure is.

wow..!
Just show's how truly hartless these Pork Bellied Jelly Doughnut eating HOMO's are..! Scared of a dead man, huh..? Ya should be..!!!!

 

[KINGFROMQUEENS]

wow..!
Just show's how truly hartless these Pork Bellied Jelly Doughnut eating HOMO's are..! Scared of a dead man, huh..? Ya should be..!!!!

YEA THATS RIGHT YOU GOT IT.

 

[BigUnc]

This is what I tried to tell some of these simps in here but they refuse to see that. Witnesses who have admitted on the news to reporters that this kid HAD a gun but when he was shot he wasn't armed. Thats used for justification alone

So what your saying is because the victim may or may not have had a gun a half hour before or maybe 5 minutes before that the police is justified, or thats the excuse they're using, for shooting him.

 

[BigUnc]

wow..!
Just show's how truly hartless these Pork Bellied Jelly Doughnut eating HOMO's are..! Scared of a dead man, huh..? Ya should be..!!!!

I can't lie I wonder sometimes myself. Pull up on the scene dude laying in street multiple gunshot wounds in vicinity of major organs gurgling or gasping for air or brain matter oozing out of his head and dude is in handcuffs. I just don't know sometimes.

 

[Actor4Truth]

I can't lie I wonder sometimes myself. Pull up on the scene dude laying in street multiple gunshot wounds in vicinity of major organs gurgling or gasping for air or brain matter oozing out of his head and dude is in handcuffs. I just don't know sometimes.

Woop Whoop.. Thats the sound of the Beast..!!!

 

[Onyx]

This is what I tried to tell some of these simps in here but they refuse to see that. Witnesses who have admitted on the news to reporters that this kid HAD a gun but when he was shot he wasn't armed. Thats used for justification alone

Funny. I'm listening to Noel Leader and Mark Claxton and they are saying she didn't say that on the phone and told them when they arrived he didn't have a gun and she's put this as a written statement. Someone is lying here. We are getting cop spin right now. Let's see them release them the 911 audio.