Report: Police shoot (20 shots), kill man holding hairbrush

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Report: Police shoot, kill man holding hairbrush

EW YORK (CNN) -- Police shot and killed an unarmed young man outside his Brooklyn apartment Monday night after his mother reported a "family dispute with a gun," police said.

olice told The New York Times they believed that Khiel Coppin, 18, had a gun, but after five officers fired 20 shots they realized he was holding only a hairbrush.

A bystander who said he saw the shooting told CNN affiliate WABC-TV that the man was unarmed.

"He dropped the brush," said the bystander, Dyshawn Gibson. "He put his hands up. Police just started firing."

An initial police statement given to reporters Monday night said the man was seen pacing around the apartment.

"He began screaming from the window at his mother and the police," the police statement said. "At some point, the male climbed out of the window and began crossing the sidewalk toward the police."

That's when police began firing, a police spokesman said.

The police spokesman said officers were called to the apartment building in Brooklyn's Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood at about 7 p.m. by Coppin's mother who said she was having a dispute with her son.

According to a statement, police said Coppin's mother reported that her son was armed. But The New York Times quoted police who said Coppin himself was overheard on the mother's 911 call threatening to kill her and claiming "I have a gun."
 
That's fucked up But on the real marching aint doing shit we need to do more than that to stop this kind of bullshit you cant bring a knife to a gun fight
 
Let me go out on a limb and take a wild guess that the victim was Black, right??? :rolleyes: and waits for the defenders of the pigs to show up in the thread. :smh::smh:
 
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Report: Police shoot, kill man holding hairbrush

EW YORK (CNN) -- Police shot and killed an unarmed young man outside his Brooklyn apartment Monday night after his mother reported a "family dispute with a gun," police said.

olice told The New York Times they believed that Khiel Coppin, 18, had a gun, but after five officers fired 20 shots they realized he was holding only a hairbrush.

A bystander who said he saw the shooting told CNN affiliate WABC-TV that the man was unarmed.

"He dropped the brush," said the bystander, Dyshawn Gibson. "He put his hands up. Police just started firing."

An initial police statement given to reporters Monday night said the man was seen pacing around the apartment.

"He began screaming from the window at his mother and the police," the police statement said. "At some point, the male climbed out of the window and began crossing the sidewalk toward the police."

That's when police began firing, a police spokesman said.

The police spokesman said officers were called to the apartment building in Brooklyn's Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood at about 7 p.m. by Coppin's mother who said she was having a dispute with her son.

According to a statement, police said Coppin's mother reported that her son was armed. But The New York Times quoted police who said Coppin himself was overheard on the mother's 911 call threatening to kill her and claiming "I have a gun."

This kid is NO Amadu Dialo, fam. It's sad that he got merked, but it reads like he and his mother are much to blame for the shooting. If the man's own mother said he has a gun, he's over heard on tape saying he has a gun and saying he has a gun, then he comes walking across the street with a dark object in his hand AFTER screaming on his mom (whom he'd threatened to kill with a gun)... what the fuck would YOU have done if you were one of those cops? Wait for him to shoot first, to see if he was bluffing about having a gun? This sounds more like a 'death by cop' suicide to me.
 
Let me go out on a limb and take a wild guess that the victim was Black, right??? :rolleyes: and waits for the defenders of the pigs to show up in the thread. :smh::smh:

This kid is NO Amadu Dialo, fam. It's sad that he got merked, but it reads like he and his mother are much to blame for the shooting. If the man's own mother said he has a gun, he's over heard on tape saying he has a gun and saying he has a gun, then he comes walking across the street with a dark object in his hand AFTER screaming on his mom (whom he'd threatened to kill with a gun)... what the fuck would YOU have done if you were one of those cops? Wait for him to shoot first, to see if he was bluffing about having a gun? This sounds more like a 'death by cop' suicide to me.

They arrive on schedule. :smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
Before you ninjas make big assumptions know this, it happened on Gates ave in the 900's in Bed-Stuy. That area ain't no fuckin cake walk, they police responded to a domestic dispute and if you in LE you would know that those are the most dangerous calls cause you don't know what to expect.

Now a WITNESS admitted dude had a gun but when the cops shot him he wasn't armed. I will leave it at that.
 
They arrive on schedule. :smh::smh::smh::smh:

No man it's fucking black logic with the cops, any black man with half a brain knows there is just some shit you just don't do with the pigs. Reminds me of that COPS episode when all those black kids in the car thrust their hands out the fucking car window when they got pulled over. You don't show aggression, you shut the fuck up, answer the questions put to you in a low tone, and you most certainly don't reach into your coat, glove compartment, pockets for shit!

Of course there are exceptions, sometimes they just out to kill and no matter what you do to protect yourself they blast on you. It is just a fucked up state of things and we have to use our heads...

RIP to the cat, but he played right into those trigger happy savages hands, them dudes are ready to get target practice on blacks any time of day.
 
peace
Before you ninjas make big assumptions know this, it happened on Gates ave in the 900's in Bed-Stuy. That area ain't no fuckin cake walk, they police responded to a domestic dispute and if you in LE you would know that those are the most dangerous calls cause you don't know what to expect.

Now a WITNESS admitted dude had a gun but when the cops shot him he wasn't armed. I will leave it at that.

This is ALL I took from it peeping it on the news last night for about 30 seconds.
This wasnt no Phillip Pennell type shit
When the kid dropped the brush (that he was revealing for whatever reasons of his own), them thangs started going off;
one of the little girls already said that he had a piece earlier;

Not condoning what he did nor not being able to talk ya own Moms out of an elective, cosmetic surgury that wasnt needed nor necessary but
BlessTheDead to those that have passed



peace
 
Damn shame none of ya'll no shit I live 1 block down from where this happened no one said he had a gun 1 officer shot at him while he was climbing out of the window 1 shot hit him that's when the other officers took shots and while they were shooting the sergant ask why are you shooting and to cease fire but by that time the damage was already done. And for the one who said something about that area don't nothing happen down there but weed sales get ya facts straight before you start talking things you don't know cop's knew kid was unarmed why because we heard the cop's say so. I live on Gates & lewis it happend in 590 gates & throop not 900 playboy don't even exsit. But you know something it's not your fault the news have you speaking like this editing is a mofo but if something like this was to happen around you or where you live please report the facts so the news don't have people thinking like this.
 
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This kid is NO Amadu Dialo, fam. It's sad that he got merked, but it reads like he and his mother are much to blame for the shooting. If the man's own mother said he has a gun, he's over heard on tape saying he has a gun and saying he has a gun, then he comes walking across the street with a dark object in his hand AFTER screaming on his mom (whom he'd threatened to kill with a gun)... what the fuck would YOU have done if you were one of those cops? Wait for him to shoot first, to see if he was bluffing about having a gun? This sounds more like a 'death by cop' suicide to me.


I was thinking exactly the same thing. It's unfortunate what happened to the dude but when it's life & death u'r oath as a cop does go out the window.

It's very unfortunate but the dude kinda walked right into that shit .
 
Damn shame none of ya'll no shit I live 1 block down from where this happened no one said he had a gun 1 officer shot at him while he was climbing out of the window 1 shot hit him that's when the other officers took shots and while they were shooting the sergant ask why are you shooting and to cease fire but by that time the damage was already done. And for the one who said something about that area don't nothing happen down there but weed sales get ya facts straight before you start talking things you don't know cop's knew kid was unarmed why because we heard the cop's say so. I live on Gates & lewis it happend in 590 gates & throop not 900 playboy don't even exsit. But you know something it's not your fault the news have you speaking like this editing is a mofo but if something like this was to happen around you or where you live please report the facts so the news don't have people thinking like this.

Was that english?
 
Crazy mfs and their fam need to recognize NYPD is not comin to negotiate with yur ass after they hear the word gun... :smh:
 
This kid is NO Amadu Dialo, fam. It's sad that he got merked, but it reads like he and his mother are much to blame for the shooting. If the man's own mother said he has a gun, he's over heard on tape saying he has a gun and saying he has a gun, then he comes walking across the street with a dark object in his hand AFTER screaming on his mom (whom he'd threatened to kill with a gun)... what the fuck would YOU have done if you were one of those cops? Wait for him to shoot first, to see if he was bluffing about having a gun? This sounds more like a 'death by cop' suicide to me.


A bystander who said he saw the shooting told CNN affiliate WABC-TV that the man was unarmed.

"He dropped the brush," said the bystander, Dyshawn Gibson. "He put his hands up. Police just started firing."

either way 20 shots?
 
[FLASH]http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?token=181_1194938790[/FLASH]11/12/07 Brooklyn NY A teenager in a dispute with his mother was shot and killed by police officers when he charged at them with what they thought was a gun but later turned out to be a hair brush, authorities said. Officers received a 911 call from the teen's mother around 7 p.m., police spokesman Paul Browne said. The 911 operator could hear the teen yelling in the background during the call claiming he had a gun, Browne said.
 
Damn shame none of ya'll no shit I live 1 block down from where this happened no one said he had a gun 1 officer shot at him while he was climbing out of the window 1 shot hit him that's when the other officers took shots and while they were shooting the sergant ask why are you shooting and to cease fire but by that time the damage was already done. And for the one who said something about that area don't nothing happen down there but weed sales get ya facts straight before you start talking things you don't know cop's knew kid was unarmed why because we heard the cop's say so. I live on Gates & lewis it happend in 590 gates & throop not 900 playboy don't even exsit. But you know something it's not your fault the news have you speaking like this editing is a mofo but if something like this was to happen around you or where you live please report the facts so the news don't have people thinking like this.

If the Fuckin PIGS didn't fuck up.. why did they cuff a dead:smh::(:angry::hmm:.. bullet riddled black man and put him in the back of a police car..!! They fuckin handcuffed him after he was allready shot dead...:angry::angry::angry::angry:!!!! Please someone dare to justify this type of bullshit... NYPD:puke:= Ninja Killers:smh::angry:.. Day after Day after Day.. When will the shit stop..?:smh::smh::smh:
 
Was that english?
Does that make what he said less true? Everybody's a gaddamned pseudo-intellectual these days. Content doesn't matter all long as you dot the i's and cross the t's, huh?
New York, the greatest city in the U.S.? :smh: Not for people of color. The holice always seem to get away with murder there.
To the BGOL pig patrol - now do you understand why so many of us refuse to call you? Its shit like this. The mother signed her son's death warrant by telling the bacon boys he had a gun. The only reason I'd call a pig is if someone got murdered or if someone broke in and stole my shit so I'd have something solid to submit to the insurance company.
Fuck the holice.
 
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What I dont understand is... even if he had a gun, until you see the man aiming and threatning someone, why start to fire ???????

Its clear NYC cops are taught to shoot first, there are no questions.

And the fucked up part about this is they never have to explain anything.

RIP.
 
What I dont understand is... even if he had a gun, until you see the man aiming and threatning someone, why start to fire ???????

Its clear NYC cops are taught to shoot first, there are no questions.

And the fucked up part about this is they never have to explain anything.

RIP.

Even when they do.. arn't they supposed to aim for the leg, arm, or other non- vital organs..?:smh::angry::hmm: not to metion that one, two, or three bullets is more than enough to subdue a man..! and why don't they ever have to give a fuckin explaination.. who are they BUSH.. oh no I forgot there the MuthaFuckin White Man.. They can do what ever they want..! Shit makes my blood boil.. how is bullshit like this not called MURDER..! Fucken Devils..!! There time is comming.. nothing last forever.. and you reap what you sew..!! :yes::yes::yes::yes:
 
NYPD is not trained to fire warning shots or aim for non vital body points. This is what the cops do. First of all the police came from slave catchers. They are the modern overseer.
 
A bystander who said he saw the shooting told CNN affiliate WABC-TV that the man was unarmed.

"He dropped the brush," said the bystander, Dyshawn Gibson. "He put his hands up. Police just started firing."
either way 20 shots?

Let me make this crystal clear, fam. If your wife calls you and says that there is a man at your house with a gun, threatening to kill her... You even hear the man in the background himself saying that he has a gun and is going to kill your old lady. You arrive at home carrying a gun of your own and the man is not only talking shit to you, but he coming toward you with an unidentified dark object in his hand. Do you wait to get a closer look at the object in his hand and see if it's really a gun (even though he and your panicking wife have already said he has a gun) or do you pop a hot one in his ass and ask questions later? :dunno:
 
Let me make this crystal clear, fam. If your wife calls you and says that there is a man at your house with a gun, threatening to kill her... You even hear the man in the background himself saying that he has a gun and is going to kill your old lady. You arrive at home carrying a gun of your own and the man is not only talking shit to you, but he coming toward you with an unidentified dark object in his hand. Do you wait to get a closer look at the object in his hand and see if it's really a gun (even though he and your panicking wife have already said he has a gun) or do you pop a hot one in his ass and ask questions later? :dunno:

A witness at the scene and a poster from the area whose gotten word from people there and NOT cops trying to cover their ass have said he didn't have it in his hand. To anyone who actually lives in New York we've heard the they had "insert object here" in their hands every time they do this. Let's ignore that and keep rationalizing cop actions.
 
Here is the NY Times article...
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November 13, 2007
Man, 18, Is Fatally Shot by Police in Brooklyn

By BRUCE LAMBERT and ANAHAD O’CONNOR
A young man was fatally shot last night in a hail of 20 bullets fired by five police officers who responded to his mother’s 911 call for help in a domestic dispute in Brooklyn, the authorities said.
The police said they believed that the man, Khiel Coppin, 18, had a gun. But when the gunfire stopped, it turned out that he had been holding a black hairbrush.
The police were investigating a number of scenarios this morning, including whether the man had held the brush under his shirt to prompt officers to shoot at him, a phenomenon known in law-enforcement circles as “suicide by cop.” But witness accounts varied, with some people at the scene saying they heard the man tell officers he had a gun, and others saying the man was shot as he dropped the brush and attempted to raise his hands in the air in an effort to cooperate.
The shooting began shortly after officers went into the building at 590 Gates Avenue, in Bedford-Stuyvesant, about 7 p.m. The police said they were responding to a 911 call from Mr. Coppin’s mother reporting domestic abuse and asking for help to “deal with this.” On the call, the police said, a man was overheard threatening to kill her, saying “I have a gun.”
One resident of the building, Andre Sanchez, 17, said that after the police arrived, he saw from the hallway through the open door of the apartment that the officers inside were talking to Mr. Coppin, who was in a bedroom and opening and closing that door as they spoke, possibly with a knife in his hand. One law enforcement official said this morning that during the tense standoff, Mr. Coppin lunged at the officers and shouted “shoot me.” A sister of Mr. Coppin was standing nearby at the time, they said, and investigators were seeking to fully debrief her to obtain her account of what happened.
Eventually, the authorities said, Mr. Coppin climbed out a first-floor window and confronted more officers outside the building, and multiple shots were fired at him. Wounded, Mr. Coppin fell to the ground and was handcuffed, witnesses said. He was taken to Woodhull Medical and Mental Health Center, where he was pronounced dead, the police said.
A law enforcement official said this morning that Mr. Coppin had been hit by 13 bullets, though it was unclear how many wounds those bullets caused. Some may have been exit wounds. The official said that five people had fired at Mr. Coppin: two police officers and a sergeant from the local housing police station, PSA 3, and a sergeant and a detective assigned to the local 79th Precinct.
“Those are the shooters and there are a lot more cops on the scene,” the official said.
Mr. Coppin’s mother, whose name was not released, was among the people outside the building during the shooting. Earlier in the day, she had called a hospital psychiatric unit asking for urgent help in dealing with her son, the law enforcement official said. Psychiatric workers came, but Mr. Coppin was gone. After waiting two hours, the workers left, and later, Mr. Coppin returned.
Two bystanders who said they had seen the shooting said that Mr. Coppin was not armed, but was carrying a hairbrush when he climbed out the window and that he dropped it when the firing began. The two witnesses also said they both heard one officer yelling for the shooting to stop.
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According to the police, another witness described Mr. Coppin as concealing the hairbrush under his shirt, pointing it outward.
A restless crowd quickly gathered and grew to as many as 150, as some neighbors shouted protests against police brutality. “You need training — this is absurd!” one woman shouted out a window to the police. Another man pressed against a yellow crime-scene tape and said: “I’m not trying to start a riot. I’m just saying it’s not right.”
The site and surrounding blocks were cordoned off as dozens of police officers, detectives and community affairs officers arrived to investigate the shooting and control the crowd. Community leaders at the scene included City Councilman Albert Vann.
Witnesses and the police offered different details about how the shooting occurred.
Mr. Sanchez said that just before the shooting, he went outside and saw several officers there with guns drawn. Mr. Coppin approached the window, backed away, then returned and stood on the sill, Mr. Sanchez said. When an officer told him to get down, he jumped to the ground and started to go through a gate in the fence in front of the building, Mr. Sanchez said.
An officer told Mr. Coppin to put up his hands, and when he did he dropped the hairbrush and the shooting began, although one officer called out to stop the gunfire, Mr. Sanchez said.
Officers started chasing Mr. Sanchez and knocked him to the ground after, he said, he protested: “Why you got to shoot him like that, for nothing?”
A similar description of the shooting was given by Precious Blood, 16, who said she heard about 10 shots fired, most if not all by one officer. Another officer called out: “Stop, stop, stop shooting — he’s down,” she said, but the shooter kept firing, “like he was playing with a toy.”
The law enforcement official gave a different version of the encounter, saying that Mr. Coppin charged toward the officers and refused repeated orders to stop.
The police said they were also exploring the possibility that Mr. Coppin was trying to prompt a shooting, a phenomenon that a handful of studies in recent years have shown can account for a small fraction of police shootings in some American cities. One study by researchers at Harvard Medical School in 1998, for example, looked at all officer-involved shootings in Los Angeles County in a 10-year-period — about 430 shootings in all — and found that “suicide-by-cop” incidents accounted for 11 percent of the shootings over all and 13 percent of the fatal shootings.
Mr. Coppin’s mother was at the 79th Precinct station house last night and gave a statement to the police, they said.
The officers who fired their guns have not been spoken to by police officials, as is routine in such matters. Under a new policy instituted in September, the five officers were given Breathalyzer sobriety tests immediately after the shooting, and police officials said all five passed that test.
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Al Baker and Annie Correal contributed reporting.

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A witness at the scene and a poster from the area whose gotten word from people there and NOT cops trying to cover their ass have said he didn't have it in his hand. To anyone who actually lives in New York we've heard the they had "insert object here" in their hands every time they do this. Let's ignore that and keep rationalizing cop actions.

GTFOH with that rescuing the cops bullshit. If you cats want to sort through all the conflicting reports to get to the bottom of things, I'm all for it, but I will not automatically assume that 100% of the times a black man is shot by the cops, it's on some Amadu Dialo shit. My critical thinking is not undermined by my racial back ground. That's ridicualous. If the report that I quoted turns out to be false, I'll adjust my opinion accordingly... Until then, it is what it is. I got no more love for NYPD than the next brother, but then my mother never had to call NYPD on me afraid for her life because I threatened to shoot her either. Enough with all the personal slights up in here... Just sort the facts out and keep it movin'.
 
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