****** Washington Post: Many Blacks Worse off Than Their Parents, Study Says ******

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/12/AR2007111201711.html

Middle-Class Dream Eludes African American Families
Many Blacks Worse off Than Their Parents, Study Says


By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 13, 2007; A01


Nearly half of African Americans born to middle-income parents in the late 1960s plunged into poverty or near-poverty as adults, according to a new study -- a perplexing finding that analysts say highlights the fragile nature of middle-class life for many African Americans.

Overall, family incomes have risen for both blacks and whites over the past three decades. But in a society where the privileges of class and income most often perpetuate themselves from generation to generation, black Americans have had more difficulty than whites in transmitting those benefits to their children.

Forty-five percent of black children whose parents were solidly middle class in 1968 -- a stratum with a median income of $55,600 in inflation-adjusted dollars -- grew up to be among the lowest fifth of the nation's earners, with a median family income of $23,100. Only 16 percent of whites experienced similar downward mobility. At the same time, 48 percent of black children whose parents were in an economic bracket with a median family income of $41,700 sank into the lowest income group.

This troubling picture of black economic evolution is contained in a package of three reports being released today by the Pew Charitable Trusts that test the vitality of the American dream. Using a nationally representative data source that for nearly four decades has tracked people who were children in 1968, researchers attempted to answer two questions: Do Americans generally advance beyond their parents in terms of income? How much is that affected by race and gender?

"We are attempting to broaden the current debate" beyond the growing gap between higher- and lower-income Americans, said John Morton, Pew's managing director for program planning and economic policy. "There is little out there on the question of mobility across generations, and we wanted to examine that."

The data source, called the Panel Study of Income Dynamics, followed 2,367 people from across the country, including 730 African Americans, since 1968. The study participants have been repeatedly interviewed about their economic status through the years, allowing for income comparisons across generations.

The Pew reports found that in many ways the American dream is alive and well. Two out of three Americans are upwardly mobile, meaning they had higher incomes than their parents. About half the time, moving up meant not only that they earned more money than their parents, but also that they were better off in relation to other Americans than their parents were.

That growth was most evident among lower-income people. Overall, four out of five children born into families at the bottom 20 percent of wage earners surpassed their parents' income. Broken down by race, nine in 10 whites were better-paid than their parents were, compared with three out of four blacks.

Median family income for adults now in their 30s and 40s rose by 29 percent, to $71,900 between the two generations covered in the reports. And as incomes grew, households shrank, from an average of 3.1 individuals in 1969 to 2.3 in 1998 -- meaning that income per person grew even more.

Julia B. Isaacs, a researcher at the Brookings Institution who authored the three reports, noted that between 1974 and 2004, the median income for men in their 30s actually dropped 12 percent. But because more women entered the workforce, and earned much more than their mothers, median income for women more than tripled during the period, to $20,000.

"The growth we've seen in family incomes is because of the increase in women's income," Isaacs said. "Without that, we would not have seen an increase, because men's earnings have been flat and even declined."

Again, the reduction has been more dramatic for black men than whites. And income for white women, who were less likely than black women to work outside the home a generation ago, has grown faster than it has for black women. Black women earned a median income of $21,000 in 2004, almost equal to that of white women. Black men had a median income of $25,600, less than two-thirds that of white men.

Overall, family income of blacks in their 30s was $35,000, 58 percent that of comparable whites, a gap that did not surprise researchers. Startling them, however, was that so many blacks fell out of the middle class to the bottom of the income distribution in one generation.

Ronald B. Mincy, a Columbia University sociologist who has focused on the growing economic peril confronted by black men and who served as an adviser on the Pew project, said skeptical researchers repeatedly reviewed the findings before concluding they were statistically accurate.

"There is a lot of downward mobility among African Americans," Mincy said. "We don't have an explanation."

Pew hopes to develop some answers in future reports in its series on economic mobility. Reports scheduled to be released early next year will probe, among other things, the role of wealth and education in income mobility.

Mincy and others speculated that the increase in the number of single-parent black households, continued educational gaps between blacks and whites and even racial isolation that remains common for many middle-income African Americans could be factors.

"That's a stunner," said Orlando Patterson, a Harvard University sociologist, when told about the Pew finding. "These kids were middle class, but apparently their parents did not have the cultural capital and connections to pass along to them."

Another reason so many middle-class blacks appear to be downwardly mobile is likely the huge wealth gap separating white and black families of similar incomes. For every $10 of wealth a white person has, blacks have $1, studies have found.

"We already knew that downward mobility was much more likely for blacks," said Mary Pattillo, a Northwestern University sociologist who studies the black middle class. "But this is an even bigger percentage drop than I have seen elsewhere. That's very steep."
 
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Yet most of the so called Black republicans are under 50. This like the south supporting conservative republicans yet are among the poorest regions in the US. Go figure.
 
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This does not surprise me. My father's generation and his father's generation did a lot better than my generation. Neither my siblings nor my cousins have the money that our older relatives have. They were much more properous during a time when opportunities for black people were a lot more limited.
 
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no surprise ,especialy they way the Middle Class is getting
squeezed in this country
 
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It's funny to read this because most people just point the blame at the kids. From my experience it's the parents. Usually the kids are fucked because :

a) the parent was too busy clubbing or some other bullshit to raise a kid

or b) the parents hate on their achieving kids. mine did and i've seen other black parents doing it as well. they absolutely have to be the star and if junior does something to steal the limelight there is hell to pay. meanwhile, white, asian, middle eastern and the majority of latino parents are bending over backwards to give their children oportunities.
 
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well...I'm worse off than my parents...
 
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I have been stating this for years. However, because so many of us these days are so concerned with vanity (big house, big cars, bad credit)and selfishness. We have failed to see those useless material items are NOT indicaters of financial success. We have integrated so much of ourselves into pop culture most of us are lost now and don't know which way is up. We have to stop being selfish and network for a better tomorrow. Times are NOT better right now they are worse because we don't even own something as simple as our own collective image and identity.
 
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I have been stating this for years. However, because so many of us these days are so concerned with vanity (big house, big cars, bad credit)and selfishness. We have failed to see those useless material items are NOT indicaters of financial success. We have integrated so much of ourselves into pop culture most of us are lost now and don't know which way is up. We have to stop being selfish and network for a better tomorrow. Times are NOT better right now they are worse because we don't even own something as simple as our own collective image and identity.

Thank you.
 
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These is also true for whites too........
 
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I'm holding steady.

My momma would be proud of me.
 
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"There is a lot of downward mobility among African Americans," Mincy said. "We don't have an explanation." - Ronald B. Mincy,

This is what is killing me. We have many knowledgeable and intelligent people on this board, and other forums (both Internet forums and physical forums). We have meetings, we exchange theories on television, the radio, the internet, in private and public, at the coffee shop, park, rib shack, etc....but at the end of all of these generations of debate...WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? IS IT THAT BAD?

I hope that any brotha' reading this article is given EVEN MORE reason to be MOTIVATED and EMBOLDENED against these numbers that, indirectly, prophecy gloom and doom for you and your people.

Though I must say....too contrast this report with the fact that African - Americans control nearly a TRILLION dollars worth of spending power (an increase of nearly $640 Billion within the last 10 years), does reflect a social problem. So I offer a solution,

Financial advisers in every Elementary school that resides within a community commanding a household income of $35,000 or less. Let's get it poppin' with the SOLUTION Washington Post.

--
"The poor are studied to death by government agencies and liberal foundations as a substitute for a serious national effort to combat poverty" - Jeff Faux
 
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Things are only going to get worst as this country declines.
 
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My father just passed recently and my sister and I didn't recieve anything. No estate, nothing but a few personal possessions. It's kind of rough and I know that he tried but...

The situation isn't looking all the great for my sister and I as we are in our early thirties and just out there. My father never hated on my sister and I...he was a good man but had nothing to show for his goodness. I'm always thrown off by the "you kids live better than us" thing because:

1. We are leaving college 10s of thousands of dollars in debt and have to shell out 10's of thousands more just to escalate our salary which shows no benefit except over a lifetime...and even that is modest.

2. We are living in the age of Reaganomics the second time over. We went from a surplus to a crippling deficit which we will pass on for more generations.

3. Wages are remaining stagnant accept at the upper most positions in most companies.

4. The housing crisis is aiding in our crippling and also making buying and affordable home impossible.
I spend more on gasoline than I do on food weekly.

5. Iraq/Afghanistan and everywhere else...we're going to be stretched out indefinately.

6. The damage is done and still being done with the crack and drug wars that began almost 3 decades ago.



So is it all that great a time to be living in?
 
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I have been stating this for years. However, because so many of us these days are so concerned with vanity (big house, big cars, bad credit)and selfishness. We have failed to see those useless material items are NOT indicaters of financial success. We have integrated so much of ourselves into pop culture most of us are lost now and don't know which way is up. We have to stop being selfish and network for a better tomorrow. Times are NOT better right now they are worse because we don't even own something as simple as our own collective image and identity.

Yeah shit was basics around here cause moms was doing it solo.

We never needed anything.
Moms held it down in a neighborhood of upper middle class
nigs solo after pops rolled out. Kinda amazing looking back
remembering being ungrateful for a few things. Moms came
through big on so many occasions. She was solid as fuck.

My moms was coasting by the time we graduated and moved out.
Remodeling the house takin trips etc. Benefits health care
and retirement fund. 30+years D.C. Gov.

I cannot match that right now :smh:but I realize I have to in order to be able to pass this estate on to my kids if I ever have any.

Shit is really sweet for some ....Im aight. I play my position.

Doin too much is when you fuck yourself up.
 
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With a lot of the manufacturing jobs that left many cities that gave a decent wage to non skilled employees, its no real big surprise. Many of our parents had those jobs and a lot of them like my grandfather were able to retire in the early 80's before the storm hit. Our parents weren't educated enough to enlighten us before the storm hit. Non skilled jobs that pay well are gone, its time for us to let the kids know these things, so they won't contiune to be swallowed up by the economic changes that sweep through AmeriKKKa
 
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I'm holding steady.

My momma would be proud of me.

Same here but I'm confused as hell by this story. How could this be so dramatic a decline as the story put it after 8 years of wonderful times during the Clinton years? I can't say how many on this board and other places have stated even want those times to return if not by Clinton himself but by his wife Hillary Rodham Cankles. This story to me is alarmist at the core and cannot be taken to be fact. Unless as I was saying there truly were not those great times for us financially as we were led to believe.

Seems to me ultimately, the noise made about how great those times were were just that, noise.

-VG
 
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Same here but I'm confused as hell by this story. How could this be so dramatic a decline as the story put it after 8 years of wonderful times during the Clinton years? I can't say how many on this board and other places have stated even want those times to return if not by Clinton himself but by his wife Hillary Rodham Cankles. This story to me is alarmist at the core and cannot be taken to be fact. Unless as I was saying there truly were not those great times for us financially as we were led to believe.

Seems to me ultimately, the noise made about how great those times were were just that, noise.

-VG


The clinton years were a stright scam, the IT industry was booming, and people just like his carisma, but if you took the sheet off, you seem more black males being locked up, more laws being passed, basiclly a nice old buttering up to what was gonna come in the next few years when he left office.
 
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The clinton years were a stright scam, the IT industry was booming, and people just like his carisma, but if you took the sheet off, you seem more black males being locked up, more laws being passed, basiclly a nice old buttering up to what was gonna come in the next few years when he left office.

No argument from me on that. There was nothing there but his ability to make republicans look like idiots by talking that arkansas style bullshit. Thats' good but can't make the rent talking shit.

-VG
 
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Same here but I'm confused as hell by this story. How could this be so dramatic a decline as the story put it after 8 years of wonderful times during the Clinton years? I can't say how many on this board and other places have stated even want those times to return if not by Clinton himself but by his wife Hillary Rodham Cankles. This story to me is alarmist at the core and cannot be taken to be fact. Unless as I was saying there truly were not those great times for us financially as we were led to believe.

Seems to me ultimately, the noise made about how great those times were were just that, noise.

-VG

The problem with the Clinton years is that they were TOO GOOD!!!!
A lot more people made money, but they spent MORE THAN THEY MADE!!

This is both black and white. If those people would have saved and had some foresight they would have seen that the markets had to correct themselves at some point and had money to sit on.

I forgot got to add the obligatory fuck Cosby and its White people fault.
 
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This does not surprise me. My father's generation and his father's generation did a lot better than my generation. Neither my siblings nor my cousins have the money that our older relatives have. They were much more properous during a time when opportunities for black people were a lot more limited.

I THINK THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS $20 AND HOUR FACTORY JOBS WITH NO EDUCATION, AND THE INVENTION OF THE FICO SCORE IN 1956.
 
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Isn't this thread a repost of another thread?????????????

Anyway...

The problem with the Clinton years is that they were TOO GOOD!!!!
A lot more people made money, but they spent MORE THAN THEY MADE!!

This is both black and white. If those people would have saved and had some foresight they would have seen that the markets had to correct themselves at some point and had money to sit on.

I forgot got to add the obligatory fuck Cosby and its White people fault.

A growing money supply means a prosperous economy. A tight money supply means a shrinking or depressed economy.

When you starve a community of money (in this case, non-whites) it contracts, depresses, and you get downward mobility.

When you have plentiful money, a community grows and becomes wealthy (in this case, honkeys).

It is simple economics.

This country is (and has been) STARVING our community of capital.
 
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I have been stating this for years. However, because so many of us these days are so concerned with vanity (big house, big cars, bad credit)and selfishness. We have failed to see those useless material items are NOT indicaters of financial success. We have integrated so much of ourselves into pop culture most of us are lost now and don't know which way is up. We have to stop being selfish and network for a better tomorrow. Times are NOT better right now they are worse because we don't even own something as simple as our own collective image and identity.

Here you go again? How much have you saved for your retirement?...I thought so....:eek:
 
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Same here but I'm confused as hell by this story. How could this be so dramatic a decline as the story put it after 8 years of wonderful times during the Clinton years? I can't say how many on this board and other places have stated even want those times to return if not by Clinton himself but by his wife Hillary Rodham Cankles. This story to me is alarmist at the core and cannot be taken to be fact. Unless as I was saying there truly were not those great times for us financially as we were led to believe.

Seems to me ultimately, the noise made about how great those times were were just that, noise.

-VG

Damn, man. You put me in a laughing/coughing frenzy.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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"I THINK THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS $20 AND HOUR FACTORY JOBS WITH NO EDUCATION"

There it is right there. We moved to a middle class neighborhood in 1968. It went from 90% white to 95% black within 3 years. Blacks where moving in by the 100's. The vast majority of them worked for the post office are big defense contractors. These jobs paid very well for people who had no more than a highschool education. The only professionals we had in our neighorhood were school teachers. Those jobs are no overseas and a highschool education does not ensure you shit. White folks are finding out the samething just at a lesser degree. My parents lived a comfortable life and I working to out due them. I never lived in a apartment growing up and my son has experienced the same. I simply want to do better than my parents and have my son due better than me.

Dlateshow
 
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The clinton years were a stright scam, the IT industry was booming, and people just like his carisma, but if you took the sheet off, you seem more black males being locked up, more laws being passed, basiclly a nice old buttering up to what was gonna come in the next few years when he left office.

TALK YOUR ASS OFF.
I MADE A SHITLOAD OF MONEY DURING THAT TIME.
AND STILL HAD A LOT LEFT TIL THE SHIT STARTED GOING DOWNHILL
CONTRACTS DRIED UP AND SOME OTHER SHIT ADDED BY THE ECONOMY AND PEOPLE SCARED TO SPEND BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL CLIMATE AFTER THE FACT.

The problem with the Clinton years is that they were TOO GOOD!!!!
A lot more people made money, but they spent MORE THAN THEY MADE!!

This is both black and white. If those people would have saved and had some foresight they would have seen that the markets had to correct themselves at some point and had money to sit on.

I forgot got to add the obligatory fuck Cosby and its White people fault.

TO HELL WITH WHAT YOUR SAYIN TOO
MY MOTHER LOST OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON THAT BULLSHIT
FORTUNATELY SHE IS STILL ALL GOOD AND SITTIN ON PLENTY
FORESIGHT OR NO FORESIGHT YOU COULKDNT PREDICT 9/11
WHICH ALSO CAUSED A QUICK AND EFFECTIVE DOWNWARD SPIRAL.

OH YEA AND FUCK COSBY:lol:
 
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TALK YOUR ASS OFF.
I MADE A SHITLOAD OF MONEY DURING THAT TIME.
AND STILL HAD A LOT LEFT TIL THE SHIT STARTED GOING DOWNHILL
CONTRACTS DRIED UP AND SOME OTHER SHIT ADDED BY THE ECONOMY AND PEOPLE SCARED TO SPEND BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL CLIMATE AFTER THE FACT.


I was a teenager during the clinton years, but something always seemed wrong with what he was doing. Passing NAFTA(there's your contracts going away) and wealfare reform happening on his watch. NAFTA lead to a bunch of shit going overseas. Thats usually the type of shit passed by a ReplicKlan member.
 
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Shit, I can believe it, my aunts and uncles passed away and left significant assets.....yet the only thing they EVER went into debt for was a home, everything else was bought with cash (cars, etc.) and only what was needed was bought (no need for a TV in every room, 4 cars, etc).

Add that to the fact they had good union jobs where they drew a pension+ social security until death, and it made for a nice chuck of change. Today, folks get a dollar and spend two.
 
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My father just passed recently and my sister and I didn't recieve anything. No estate, nothing but a few personal possessions. It's kind of rough and I know that he tried but...

The situation isn't looking all the great for my sister and I as we are in our early thirties and just out there. My father never hated on my sister and I...he was a good man but had nothing to show for his goodness. I'm always thrown off by the "you kids live better than us" thing because:

1. We are leaving college 10s of thousands of dollars in debt and have to shell out 10's of thousands more just to escalate our salary which shows no benefit except over a lifetime...and even that is modest.

2. We are living in the age of Reaganomics the second time over. We went from a surplus to a crippling deficit which we will pass on for more generations.

3. Wages are remaining stagnant accept at the upper most positions in most companies.

4. The housing crisis is aiding in our crippling and also making buying and affordable home impossible.
I spend more on gasoline than I do on food weekly.

5. Iraq/Afghanistan and everywhere else...we're going to be stretched out indefinately.

6. The damage is done and still being done with the crack and drug wars that began almost 3 decades ago.



So is it all that great a time to be living in?



i feel ya....but shit, it could be worst....
 
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I've got a hunch on who a large portion of this population is. They may be talking about the black people who could have gone to college, something few of their parent didn't have an opportunity to do, but they didn't. Excluding the fact that some couldn't go for financial reasons and other got trades, who knows why eligible people didn't go to college. Anyway, They probably ended working blue collar jobs; some of them good ones like the Post Office and UPS. Other in hourly or low lever management positions. The income from these jobs could have sufficed in the 70s and early 80s, but inflation and skyrocketing living cost has them living hand to mouth nowadays. Its not their fault they tried to emulate their parent's and use the same formula for success: get a decent paying job and save. But a technology changing job environment and globalization made things more competitive. Many people who worked found it harder to navigate they changing landscape and the more competetive job market. Many skilled workers become low skilled workers trying to raises kids on a salary of 32,000 where rent is 1700 a month, and some these people may be single parents.

This is guess, This is who I'd bet a large portion of the people would fall under. I only say this because this is what I see in the current generation. People with all types of means to go to college and be competitive worker but they don't and this is a problem we need to solve. I think the post black nationalist generation has gotten complacent. I don't think people really trying to build off the previous generations. Most of us ain't striving for excellence. A lot of black fork settle not knowing that going to blue collar route can mean eventual hardship in these increasingly expensive cities.

Stay ahead of the curve yall, keep learning new skills. We gotta be fluid, ain't to telling what the future will bring.

Again this is just my take, I'd like to hear different angle or see where I may be fundamentally wrong.
 
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What trips me out now that I have a better understanding of the this economic game we play with whites is that:

1. Why are we always compared with whites economically when it is their system that makes sure it stays like that.

it's like the numbers are put out there to keep their psych in check and for us to make sure we drop that number down to help boost up their economy.

The black communities across the US spent a total around 769 billion dollars last year (check the exact number, but i know it's in the billions) little or none of which went back into the communities.

WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED NOT TO BUILD OUR OWN COMMUNITIES

2. Whites are about 10% of the population in the world but they control 90 percent of the world's wealth and resources.

So its ridiculous to even compare us.

So that comment to me means black people step your game up and get more money to put into our communities and invest in our businesses because the real competition for them is the Chinese.
 
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What trips me out now that I have a better understanding of the this economic game we play with whites is that:

1. Why are we always compared with whites economically when it is their system that makes sure it stays like that.

it's like the numbers are put out there to keep their psych in check and for us to make sure we drop that number down to help boost up their economy.

The black communities across the US spent a total around 769 billion dollars last year (check the exact number, but i know it's in the billions) little or none of which went back into the communities.

WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED NOT TO BUILD OUR OWN COMMUNITIES

2. Whites are about 10% of the population in the world but they control 90 percent of the world's wealth and resources.

So its ridiculous to even compare us.

So that comment to me means black people step your game up and get more money to put into our communities and invest in our businesses because the real competition for them is the Chinese.

Co-sign.
 
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Here you go again? How much have you saved for your retirement?...I thought so....:eek:

You're so lost brother, I don't know where to begin. You've been heavily conditioned to believe anyone that recognizes this racist and fascist government, is automatically broke, uneducated, and shiftless. Shame on you. Sad part is, if you saw me in public, you would think I was the typical well dressed middle class brother. Fuck what you heard, I started investing in mutual funds and stocks at 18 years old. Started a second income business at 21, bought my first house at 22. My second and current home I bought was this year at 26. I'll soon be closing on a duplex. I'm also a cheap ass, so I keep money in my pocket. My only downfall was to not enrolling in college. That will change in the near future. However I've outpaced most of my peers by a long shot. There a lot of dudes on here claiming to rich or what ever, I could care less. I make middle income, so sue me. It's a long ways from where I grew up (Anacostia DC, Brown bags Raleigh NC) You need to learn to stop judging a book by it's cover.
 
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TALK YOUR ASS OFF.
I MADE A SHITLOAD OF MONEY DURING THAT TIME.
AND STILL HAD A LOT LEFT TIL THE SHIT STARTED GOING DOWNHILL
CONTRACTS DRIED UP AND SOME OTHER SHIT ADDED BY THE ECONOMY AND PEOPLE SCARED TO SPEND BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL CLIMATE AFTER THE FACT.



TO HELL WITH WHAT YOUR SAYIN TOO
MY MOTHER LOST OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON THAT BULLSHIT
FORTUNATELY SHE IS STILL ALL GOOD AND SITTIN ON PLENTY
FORESIGHT OR NO FORESIGHT YOU COULKDNT PREDICT 9/11
WHICH ALSO CAUSED A QUICK AND EFFECTIVE DOWNWARD SPIRAL.

OH YEA AND FUCK COSBY:lol:



Real talk. I lost money on that shit as well. It's all about Real Estate for me now baby.


BTW. Hows Memphis :D
 
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I stopped reading it after the 1968 thing...I just skimmed the rest...

I mean if you were a low income black kind in '68 you grew up in a nasty era...I give that generation a pass.

I thought the article was going to be on the more recent generation...
 
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I THINK THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS $20 AND HOUR FACTORY JOBS WITH NO EDUCATION, AND THE INVENTION OF THE FICO SCORE IN 1956.

My grandfather owned a grocery store. My father never went to college but did very well as a cartoonist and worked for the Board of Ed. My uncle invented some gadget in GM cars and gets paid everytime a car is sold. He's a millionaire.

I work for the postal service and have 2 college degrees but I don't believe I will have the money that they do. My uncle told me that he feels sorry for our generation and I understand why. We are living in hard times and it crosses all racial lines.
 
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