LL Cool J disses Jay Z about verse...Video to Prove it!!

[FJP]

Oh yea but if i said that about Camron then i would be clowned right?

Cam has been out since 98

and since then he has sold well over 4 million records

first album 800,000
second album 500,000
3rd album double platinum
4th album platinum
5th album 600,000

and all this while being the under dog all the time

Cam ate 50, cam dissed the shit outta of nas, cam dissed the shit out of jay

why isnt he respected when it comes to rap?

50 made funeral music which sucked

nas didnt even respond, cuz he was scared, its not about whos more lyrical when u battle, its about who can make more fun of who, that determines the winner

Jay didnt even say shit about cam, after being disrespected

and please dont say Cam isnt worth mentioning because he is

the only reason these guys didnt keep dissin him is because they didnt wanna make him more famous than he is, in other words their scared of cam, cuz cam isnt the most lyrical but hes one of the funniest, and funny always wins the battle

Oh yea fuck LL cool J, Canibus Ate his punk ass homosexual self

You're numbers are so off its sad...Confessions did regular gold, not 800k. SDE didnt even get a plaque so I dont know where you retrieved Gold from..

Come home with me did 1 plat, not 2. and Purple Haze went Gold. Killa Season did 200k, where do you get all these Cam #'s from?

Cam isnt respected for his disses because they have no impact. He dissed Nas for nothing...., I respected the Jay diss because Jay was actually planning on dissing them and it backfired...the 50 thing man...he made no impact. Its all about what you do after the diss. He dissed Jay...Jay didnt do shit after the press conference...so it died..

He dissed 50...then he talked about this "hot summer" And the nigga disappears while 50 goes on to make the street club hit of the summer...Cam just isnt effective which is why its not respected. Then look at the shit that happened. his hypeman has surpassed him and did a joint deal with his enemy........

 

[Makkonnen]

LL to Kool Moe D:

"You cant handle the whole weight....Skin needs lotion...Teeth need Colgate"

" How you never ever had a drop of juice in New York
And now you go on tour and try to talk that talk
You try to act like you're a big man, but you're a big fag
Stridin' and hidin' while ridin' my big man
You ain't got a chance in the world
Your records were smokin', but you sound like a girl...
[How you like me now? I'm gettin' busier
I'm double platinum] Hold up, is he a
Man or a girl? What in the world?
You sound like Cheryl the Pearl
And you wanna battle me on the microphone?
Leave that crack alone, let's go... "


"now LL stands for
Lower Level, Lack Lustre
Last Least, Limp Lover
Lousy Lame, Latent Lethargic
Lazy Lemon, Little Logic
Lucky Leech, Liver Lipped
Laborious Louse on a Loser's Lips
Live in Limbo, Lyrical Lapse
Low Life with the loud raps, boy
You can't win, huh, I don't bend
Look what you got yourself in
Just usin' your name I took those L's
Hung 'em on your head and rocked your bells"

LL got sonned with that shit. He tried to come back way later but it was over. I used to like LL. LL's first 2 albums were cool then he became a chick rapper. Tall less retarded Lil Wayne.

 

[SYDNEYSTREETZ]

jay will crushed this dude ll had his day but jay b on some other shyt

 

[jwilliam85]

What the fuck yall old niggas talking bout? LL couldn't touch Jay-Z lyrically even if he did have Nas write it. LL has been known to employ ghostwriters. What the fuck he going to say about Jay???

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

i think this could be a pub stunt.....kinda like 50 vs kanye
but anyways.....
a LL vs jay z battle would be nice.....and good for hip hop.


both LL and jay are nice on the mic
but seeing how LL did his thing in the canibus battle...i think he would eat jay up.

if you look past all the lip licking and lip gloss poppin.....LL is realllllll nice with his words.
he is definitly ranked with the best of em

 

[Mr. ISM]

having ghostwriters isn't the same as straight the fuck up using big's shit! jay has been jacking cats lyrics for years....c'mon son check swagger jacker....this dude on some straight hip hop felon shit!

 

[freaky_1]

No the Def Jam machine killed Canibus.

Watch Beef 2.

Like the Nelly vs KRS.

Nelly won.

No radio stations played KRS's track hardly.

You're foll if you think that nelly won against KRS-1.

So what no radio stations played it, that don't mean shit. KRS got in his ass and every real hip hop head knows that. Dissing someone ain't about who get's more airplay or sells more. It's who come at the other cat the hardest to the point where the other rapper can't say shit and he looks stupid in front of his fans.

Thats what battle/diss records are about.

 

[freaky_1]

LL has bodied A LOT of rappers on wax, and Jamie Foxx in real life.

The fact that he didn't respond to Let's Go didn't mean shit... who even heard that joint? Jack the ripper still gets occasional airplay. If a rapper responds to each and every diss track out there a good battle will quickly degrade to an annoying argument over semantics. Like any good argument, you have to get in, make your point and then get out. Stay on one issue too long and people stop caring and Listening.

Everybody heard Let's Go. I am an LL fan and I still say that he got in LL's ass in that song.

Don't downplay that track. It's one of the classic diss records of all time.

 

[Legacyns]

Everybody heard Let's Go. I am an LL fan and I still say that he got in LL's ass in that song.

Don't downplay that track. It's one of the classic diss records of all time.

Real Talk.

"2nd Rd Knockout" was the strongest song in the LL/Canibus battle.

"Let's Go" was the strongest song in the LL/Moe Dee battle.

"Ether" was the strongest diss song eva.

How either one of these dudes can try to claim GOAT after being killed in a battle is beyond me.

 

[freaky_1]

Oh yea but if i said that about Camron then i would be clowned right?

Cam has been out since 98

and since then he has sold well over 4 million records (4 million in 9 years?)

first album 800,000 Wack
second album 500,000 Wack
3rd album double platinum Wack
4th album platinum Wack
5th album 600,000 Wack

and all this while being the under dog all the time. No one cares about his pink wearing ass and you call LL homo?

Cam ate 50, cam dissed the shit outta of nas, cam dissed the shit out of jay. And they laughed at him the whole time

why isnt he respected when it comes to rap? Because he sucks.

50 made funeral music which sucked 50 sucks too, what else is new?

nas didnt even respond, cuz he was scared, You can't be serious.
its not about whos more lyrical when u battle, Um that's exactly what it's about. its about who can make more fun of who, that determines the winner. Not even close

Jay didn' even say shit about cam, after being disrespected. Because who the fuck is Cam'Ron? Nobody

and please don't say Cam isn't worth mentioning because he is. Umm, no he isn't. hate to break it to you.

the only reason these guys didn't keep dissin him is because they didn't wanna make him more famous than he is, in other words their scared of cam, cuz cam isn't the most lyrical but hes one of the funniest, and funny always wins the battle. Damn, are you on the Dipshit street team? No one is scared of Cam, that dude has no skill in the first place. Take the dick out your mouth, it's getting painful to read.

Oh yea fuck LL cool J, Canibus Ate his punk ass homosexual self

Why isn't he respected? Because he sucks, that's why. No one likes the bullshit he makes except for Dipshit dickriders. No one is checking for him, he ain't been heard from in months and no one is even mentioning him. You try to throw up record sales like that means something. Record sales don't mean shit.

Tell that dude to stop acting like a child and grow the fuck up and maybe he would get some respect.

 

[Rembrandt]

yo LL won the canibus battle because of one line "99 percent of his fans don't exist" sorry that ended Canibus for me. even though it was easier to go at LL because of who he is.

lol rappers dont really go at each other anymore. someone needs to just put all of the top guys and let them battle it out on PPv for a purse. make luda, and Wayne, and Cassidy, and Budden and all of these cats go at it head to head for hours...see who really has material.

 

[Rembrandt]

Real Talk.

"2nd Rd Knockout" was the strongest song in the LL/Canibus battle.

"Let's Go" was the strongest song in the LL/Moe Dee battle.

"Ether" was the strongest diss song eva.

How either one of these dudes can try to claim GOAT after being killed in a battle is beyond me.

i know it aint in the same vewin sort of but the bridge is over is the best diss record of all time.

 

[freaky_1]

You're numbers are so off its sad...Confessions did regular gold, not 800k. SDE didnt even get a plaque so I dont know where you retrieved Gold from..

Come home with me did 1 plat, not 2. and Purple Haze went Gold. Killa Season did 200k, where do you get all these Cam #'s from?

Cam isnt respected for his disses because they have no impact. He dissed Nas for nothing...., I respected the Jay diss because Jay was actually planning on dissing them and it backfired...the 50 thing man...he made no impact. Its all about what you do after the diss. He dissed Jay...Jay didnt do shit after the press conference...so it died..

He dissed 50...then he talked about this "hot summer" And the nigga disappears while 50 goes on to make the street club hit of the summer...Cam just isnt effective which is why its not respected. Then look at the shit that happened. his hypeman has surpassed him and did a joint deal with his enemy........

Truth right there.

 

[freaky_1]

Yeah, let's go was a hard ass track. I was in LL's corner and when I heard that, I almost fell outta my chair. I was worried for L after that one. But I believe Jack the Ripper came out after that one, and even still, that one was debatable at best. Break a Dawn took care of quite a few dudes at the same time anyway. Overall, I give LL that battle with all due props to Kool Moe. I know he had him scared for a few bars

Jack the Ripper came out before. Moe Dee used bits and pieces of JTR to diss LL with in that song.

 

[dkrismoneymaker1]

Dont Call It A Comeback< I've Been Here 4 Years!!!! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BMG]

the best rip on LL was from Canibus on the og version of 4,3,2,1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaZEsqyoeZ0

he ripped em on his own record, LL got salty cause he thought he was dissin and made em do his verse over, then after that he changed his own shit to dis Canibus

 

[blaQue Ice]

saga continues ..........

 

[CeeloChamp]

Nigga them numbers is off. I don't even know if he did that internationally. Purple haze didn't go platinum. And who cares if Jay went back at him or not, he got him DC'd. Stop upping your hometown heroes.

i never once said cam was better than jay, but he did win that battle?

sure jay got him dc'd up, but im talkin about music

why would he have to get him dc'd up if he wasnt a real threat?

hmmmmmm, interesting

 

[Bro_Man]

LL LOST..... got smoked by CAN-I-BUS...... (2nd round KO - Classic ish) - LL Crushed him behind the scences, basically ended his carrer, but that track was classic ish for sure.


LL VS Kool MOE DEE - LL lost a classic battle - LL ripped it on Jack the ripper, but MOE DEE had two classics (How ya like me now, and Let's go) in that battle so I give Moe Dee the nod.

NAS ripped Jay - Z with that Ether (Eather - Classic ish too)

There have been alot of classic battles, but off the top of the dome I'm going to go with "Hit em up" by 2PAC as the "best" battle - You could really feel the passion in that joint. (In most of these battles Kats were just reppin for where they were from, but PAC really hated the Kats he was getting at on that joint.)

 

[Onpoint]

Why is LL still cryin about that last album's promotion? That Album was so trash. Jay didn't tell that nigga to make that shit. Whether Def Jam put 1 million into promoting that or 1 dollar. It sucked! Even if you put perfume on shit, it's still shit!

 

[keone]

You're numbers are so off its sad...Confessions did regular gold, not 800k. SDE didnt even get a plaque so I dont know where you retrieved Gold from..

Come home with me did 1 plat, not 2. and Purple Haze went Gold. Killa Season did 200k, where do you get all these Cam #'s from?

Cam isnt respected for his disses because they have no impact. He dissed Nas for nothing...., I respected the Jay diss because Jay was actually planning on dissing them and it backfired...the 50 thing man...he made no impact. Its all about what you do after the diss. He dissed Jay...Jay didnt do shit after the press conference...so it died..

He dissed 50...then he talked about this "hot summer" And the nigga disappears while 50 goes on to make the street club hit of the summer...Cam just isnt effective which is why its not respected. Then look at the shit that happened. his hypeman has surpassed him and did a joint deal with his enemy........

2pac killed biggie with hit em up
canibus killed ll with 2nd round ko
nas killed jay-z with ether
killa cam killed cam'ron with his rapskills


CeeloChamp never mention cam again with those other rappers unless, you are talking about killa cam battling soulja boy that could be brutal.

 

[CeeloChamp]

He dissed 50...then he talked about this "hot summer" And the nigga disappears while 50 goes on to make the street club hit of the summer...Cam just isnt effective which is why its not respected. Then look at the shit that happened. his hypeman has surpassed him and did a joint deal with his enemy........

aight thats a good point, but all im saying is that cam beat all those guys in a battle, hes not nicer than those guys but yea he did beat them, he came at jay several times, and everytime he did he ripped it, the best thing jay said in was in the song "Trouble" and that was just a line or 2

50 started the battle with him and cam is way funnier than 50, people say funeral music was light, but so was "curtis" and cam still won that

the only hot thing about funeral music is the beat, the hook and the shit talkin at the end

the actual rap sucked!!!! and i mean really really sucked!!!!!

Cam killed 50 on "Curtis"

nas didnt even respond, and you cant tell me Cam did not destroy that Hate me now beat

and all these guys say cam isnt worth mentioning in a song, if u think about it, the real reason they dont mention him is because they know he'll get famous, the only thing cam lacks is the fame, he has the money, all he lacks is the fame, and fame is worth alot

i bet if ja rule dissed jayz back in the day, Jayz wouldve dissed him back (openly)

are u saying ja rule is better than cam? if u say that then thats fucked up

 

[Andeyhollawho]

Young Berg




LL beat everybody except Kool Moe Dee.

LL had Moe Dee with "Jack The Ripper", but then Kool Moe Dee came back with "Let's Go" and it was all over.......at least thats how it was in the streets back then.




you are right
moe dee beat LL
CANIBUS BEAT LL TO

LL FUCK HIMSELF
why would you stick with def jam
unless they are paying you 3.00 a cd
everybody that release a cd with def jam
from 84-07
has left
dmx said
he sold 10 million cd
with defjam
he only got 1 million cash
when damdash sigh a 50/50 deal with defjam
they fuck them hard
they own the masters and publishing
LL should have went independent in 93 or 94
so hes playing himself

LL owns the masters to his first 10 albums now. How is he playing himself.

DMX signed a fucked up deal. Dee and Wah are his managers. Wouldn't that be they fault?

Dame Dash couldn't sell a record to save his fucking life without Jay backing it and hopping on the first single. Remember "Since you made Hov, then make another Hov"? Where you think that came from?

Def Jam is a business. Businessmen win at business.

 

[CeeloChamp]

Why isn't he respected? Because he sucks, that's why. No one likes the bullshit he makes except for Dipshit dickriders. No one is checking for him, he ain't been heard from in months and no one is even mentioning him. You try to throw up record sales like that means something. Record sales don't mean shit.

Tell that dude to stop acting like a child and grow the fuck up and maybe he would get some respect.

I dont care about dipset they all suck in my opinion, i am a fan of cam tho, record sales dont matter but when people say he isnt worth mentioning i dont get it, cuz he does murder alot of tracks, lately hes been fallin off but like i said

when it comes to battles he beat jay, 50 and nas

 

[Andeyhollawho]

In my opinion...Canibus never made it out of the first round with that bullshit 2nd Round KO. And LL bodied his ass on that Return of the Ripper track.

Wyclef's diss was better! He still got bodied, but it was better.

"Return of Jack the Ripper/What? Nigga Please/
I'm gonna push you farther back then your hairline recede/
New York City don't get it confused/
Your song will last as long as your part in Krush Groove!"

 

[pantha266]

aight thats a good point, but all im saying is that cam beat all those guys in a battle, hes not nicer than those guys but yea he did beat them, he came at jay several times, and everytime he did he ripped it, the best thing jay said in was in the song "Trouble" and that was just a line or 2

50 started the battle with him and cam is way funnier than 50, people say funeral music was light, but so was "curtis" and cam still won that

the only hot thing about funeral music is the beat, the hook and the shit talkin at the end

the actual rap sucked!!!! and i mean really really sucked!!!!!

Cam killed 50 on "Curtis"

nas didnt even respond, and you cant tell me Cam did not destroy that Hate me now beat

and all these guys say cam isnt worth mentioning in a song, if u think about it, the real reason they dont mention him is because they know he'll get famous, the only thing cam lacks is the fame, he has the money, all he lacks is the fame, and fame is worth alot

i bet if ja rule dissed jayz back in the day, Jayz wouldve dissed him back (openly)

are u saying ja rule is better than cam? if u say that then thats fucked up

...Because you think Cam has ever beat anyone in a battle.

 

[DreDee]

Come on bruh, you know Moe Dee got 'em.......remember this one...

"I'm a treat ya like a hooker punk, change your clothes
Put you on the streets wit ya jingling hoes
Keep talking about me and I'll keep pimping
Just bring me that money and take this last whipping"






Young Berg

Old School Ethering.

 

[hiphopchaos]

is all this because of what Jay said in the "i get money remix"? If so, thats just dumb. you gotta remember, that battle with canibus was years ago!!! back when LL was fresh on the mic. I dont think he can hang with Jay! hes so passed his level and jay still has shit that makes me just say damn. if Jay's verse was an actual intended diss...then that shit woulda been hard! jay will run circles around LL.

 

[Andeyhollawho]

is all this because of what Jay said in the "i get money remix"? If so, thats just dumb. you gotta remember, that battle with canibus was years ago!!! back when LL was fresh on the mic. I dont think he can hang with Jay! hes so passed his level and jay still has shit that makes me just say damn. if Jay's verse was an actual intended diss...then that shit woulda been hard! jay will run circles around LL.

Nah homeboi. It's deeper than that.

LL's shit ain't been popping off at Def Jam since that 10 album. I mean "Headsprung" was the song of the summer and that album STILL didn't sell worth shit.

So he been swinging at the Def Jam top brass for a minute. When Jay first got to Def Jam they asked LL about it and he said "I think the man is a better MC than an executive" or something like that. They been at it for a couple of years now. On the low that is.

 

[elchoccolatte]

I will never diss LL he's a legend in the hiphop game. Whats funny is cats sleep on LL and he comes out and crushes niggas. Remember Canibus? He ended his career. Yall can clown LL all you want but he'll eat most of your favorite rappers. Even when he makes some wack shit occasionally who gives a fuck, he's done more for hiphop than any of these faggots out there right now.

C to the slash S...

 

[idoit4theluv]

LL is undoubtedly a legend. But Kool Moe Dee bodied him and Canibus completely shitted on him with 2nd Round KO. C'mon are y'all dudes even listening to the lyrics. It doesn't mean LL isn't a legend, but he got dealt with on wax.

Jay vs. LL? Sorry to inform you guys, but this has taken place before. Do your research. I'll let someone else post the results because cats will claim Ducktales on my part and bias. But it took place in the mid 90's on some real shit in a CIPHER!

 

[nyscework]

Don't Forget Common vs Ice Cube.

 

[stickmanX]

ll has been around for a long long time but he hasnt achieved anything near what jay has in half the time hes been in the game, except showing that he can do alot of situps and shit, now dont get me wrong ive got a lot of respect for ll but hes not fuckin wit jay in any category rhymes, money, or relevance

 

[DreDee]

I wonder if LL forgot about that lyrical ass whoopin'? hahah

 

[That_Kappa_Man]

I will never diss LL he's a legend in the hiphop game. Whats funny is cats sleep on LL and he comes out and crushes niggas. Remember Canibus? He ended his career. Yall can clown LL all you want but he'll eat most of your favorite rappers. Even when he makes some wack shit occasionally who gives a fuck, he's done more for hiphop than any of these faggots out there right now.

^^Co-sign^^