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Shit it’s preseason who cares lol.

I haven’t watched a second of ball yet, just Twitter highlights.

Just wondering if he’s falling further off that cliff… I’m rooting for him— up to the point of winning a title, don’t want to see that but don’t want to see him embarrassing himself.
 
A lot of people aren’t going to like this out of bias. But Bill’s right.


It's fun to talk about but if one goes in, one goes out. Kobe has 5. Bird has 3. Magic has 5. Steph has 4 the hard way. Shaq has 4. Duncan has 5. Russell has 11 got damn it.

Assuming Jordan and Kareem are untouchable. Lebron for most is untouchable, some have him lower tier 7-10 though. Magic is UNTOUCHABLE . Who in the hell is a coming off the shelf, Hakeem, Wilt?

Better than Moses? That's a hard take in my opinion. Moses was just a dominant defensively as Jokic is currently offensively.

Jokic is amazing but he literally doesn't give a shit about defense. The curve they are grading on is complete DEI in reverse.

I guess Bird is no longer top ten to the Boston guys :lol:
 
It's fun to talk about but if one goes in, one goes out. Kobe has 5. Bird has 3. Magic has 5. Steph has 4 the hard way. Shaq has 4. Duncan has 5. Russell has 11 got damn it.

Assuming Jordan and Kareem are untouchable. Lebron for most is untouchable, some have him lower tier 7-10 though. Magic is UNTOUCHABLE . Who in the hell is a coming off the shelf, Hakeem, Wilt?

Better than Moses? That's a hard take in my opinion. Moses was just a dominant defensively as Jokic is currently offensively.

Jokic is amazing but he literally doesn't give a shit about defense. The curve they are grading on is complete DEI in reverse.

I guess Bird is no longer top ten to the Boston guys :lol:
Jokic is a supe up offensive vlade divac…
 
It's fun to talk about but if one goes in, one goes out. Kobe has 5. Bird has 3. Magic has 5. Steph has 4 the hard way. Shaq has 4. Duncan has 5. Russell has 11 got damn it.

Assuming Jordan and Kareem are untouchable. Lebron for most is untouchable, some have him lower tier 7-10 though. Magic is UNTOUCHABLE . Who in the hell is a coming off the shelf, Hakeem, Wilt?

Better than Moses? That's a hard take in my opinion. Moses was just a dominant defensively as Jokic is currently offensively.

Jokic is amazing but he literally doesn't give a shit about defense. The curve they are grading on is complete DEI in reverse.

I guess Bird is no longer top ten to the Boston guys :lol:

It was funny to me how I agreed with Bill for the entire video and then he ends it with if that happens “he’s up there with Magic and Bird.”

I’m like :cmonson:. Because Bird is not in my top ten.

I think when you say top 10, you have to really mean top 12 to account for reasonable difference of opinion. Shaq isn’t in my top 10 but he’s a reasonable top 10 pick.

If Jokic wins MVP and the title, he ties LeBron in MVPs and trails him in titles by one, without team shopping like LeBron did.

I still think LeBron is unquestionably ahead of him, plus Jordan, Kareem, Russell and Wilt. I personally would have my boys Kobe and Steph ahead of him but it’s not unquestionable.

When a dude only has 5 players unquestionably ahead of him, it’s fair to call him top 10 IMO.

But one thing to keep in mind is how NBA history keeps expanding! LeBron has played with or against 35% of all players in NBA history! The game keeps piling up greats. Top 10 now is so much more elite in 2025 than what top 10 meant in 1995.
 
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I haven’t watched a second of ball yet, just Twitter highlights.

Just wondering if he’s falling further off that cliff… I’m rooting for him— up to the point of winning a title, don’t want to see that but don’t want to see him embarrassing himself.
I’ll have to wait until the season start. They just been experimenting with rotations right now. He looks like the same Klay to me. It his jumper not falling he gonna get played off the court.
 


SGA on if he can play until he’s 40:“I definitely think I can. I won’t, though. 100%. I won’t want to miss that much of my kid’s life, I won’t want to be away and miss his first basketball game every year, his first soccer game, football game, piano lesson, chess lesson, whatever it is.”
 
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