Goodbye MEDICAID: BREAKING: House Republicans have released their budget resolution. They are aiming to cut Medicaid by at least $880 billion

Your response is full of assumptions. Why would the standard tip increase 75% because it isn't taxed? It makes more sense for tips to decrease because the server will receive a larger percentage of it. You also assume that service jobs will all pay less because tips aren't taxed. Can you provide an example that leads you to assume this? People are paid what they accept. If a business offers less pay, the desirable employees will choose to work for the similar business that pays more money. It is crazy the gymnastics that some of you do to support "your team". We all know that making Over Time tax free is a benefit to the worker. You created a whole scenario that isn't backed up by history or data to make it seem like it is better for OT to be taxed.

There are no examples of what eliminating a tip tax would do because tipping isn't a thing in most countries. At least not the way it is here.

My guess is tip heavy businesses like bars, barber shops, and massage parlors, would suddenly run at or below cost. So instead of paying $25 for a haircut you'll be charged $15 with the "understanding" you'll tip at least another $10. Especially in states where the owner is allowed to withhold a portion of gratuities. Once that loophole gets closed expect the standard to remain.
 
There are no examples of what eliminating a tip tax would do because tipping isn't a thing in most countries. At least not the way it is here.

My guess is tip heavy businesses like bars, barber shops, and massage parlors, would suddenly run at or below cost. So instead of paying $25 for a haircut you'll be charged $15 with the "understanding" you'll tip at least another $10. Especially in states where the owner is allowed to withhold a portion of gratuities. Once that loophole gets closed expect the standard to remain.
I'd much rather pay $15 for a haircut with the option of paying a bigger tip than $25 and still expected to pay a tip. I assume that the barber would prefer not paying any tax on his tips. This scenario reads like a win for the barber and the customer. I am not seeing how eliminating tax on tips hurts the service worker or the customer in this scenario.
 
Your response is full of assumptions. Why would the standard tip increase 75% because it isn't taxed? It makes more sense for tips to decrease because the server will receive a larger percentage of it. You also assume that service jobs will all pay less because tips aren't taxed. Can you provide an example that leads you to assume this? People are paid what they accept. If a business offers less pay, the desirable employees will choose to work for the similar business that pays more money. It is crazy the gymnastics that some of you do to support "your team". We all know that making Over Time tax free is a benefit to the worker. You created a whole scenario that isn't backed up by history or data to make it seem like it is better for OT to be taxed.
Name one time in history where tax breaks resulted in prices coming down or wages increasing. You're full of shit my guy, the only one fantasizing here.
 
I'd much rather pay $15 for a haircut with the option of paying a bigger tip than $25 and still expected to pay a tip. I assume that the barber would prefer not paying any tax on his tips. This scenario reads like a win for the barber and the customer. I am not seeing how eliminating tax on tips hurts the service worker or the customer in this scenario.

This policy blows the door wide open for tax fraud and there's no way the government will let that stand. Also, there's no way those tip rates are going down once the party ends.
 
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Some talk a good game until:money::money:then it's back to business as usual.
The business is taking all your money.
 
Your response is full of assumptions. Why would the standard tip increase 75% because it isn't taxed? It makes more sense for tips to decrease because the server will receive a larger percentage of it. You also assume that service jobs will all pay less because tips aren't taxed. Can you provide an example that leads you to assume this? People are paid what they accept. If a business offers less pay, the desirable employees will choose to work for the similar business that pays more money. It is crazy the gymnastics that some of you do to support "your team". We all know that making Over Time tax free is a benefit to the worker. You created a whole scenario that isn't backed up by history or data to make it seem like it is better for OT to be taxed.

Untaxed OT means the company doesn't pay any taxes either. That gives them incentive to lower wages and demand longer hours out of their employees. It's a race to the bottom.
 
Name one time in history where tax breaks resulted in prices coming down or wages increasing.
Sure.

Kennedy Tax Cuts (Revenue Act of 1964)

What happened: President John F. Kennedy proposed, and President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law, a massive tax cut that reduced the top marginal income tax rate from 91% to 70%, and the corporate tax rate from 52% to 48%.
  • Outcome:
    • GDP growth jumped from 2.4% (1961–1963 average) to 5.8% in 1964 and 6.5% in 1965.
    • Unemployment fell from 5.2% in 1964 to 3.8% in 1966.
    • Real wages grew during this time due to strong demand and low unemployment.
 
Untaxed OT means the company doesn't pay any taxes either. That gives them incentive to lower wages and demand longer hours out of their employees. It's a race to the bottom.

That’s a stretch. Businesses must respect demand. They can’t just pay whatever they want. If the pay is low, desirable employees will go to higher paying employers. You are trying real hard to find a way for no taxes to be bad for the employee. Following your logic, do you think the Federal government should raise taxes on OT so businesses increase salaries?
 
You sound all kinds of crazy. I worked for the government. I know what the fuck they do. Do you?
I provided links to government agencies reporting improper payments, fraud, challenges to prevent fraud, and that retirement and survivor benefits and Disability insurance is running out of money if changes aren't made. If you disagree with the data or think there’s more to the story, I’m open to hearing your perspective. But let’s keep it about the facts—not ego or point-scorin
 
You sound all kinds of crazy. I worked for the government. I know what the fuck they do. Do you?

I quoted what SSA.gov, Office of The Inspector General, and Congress.gov is telling us. You know more because you “work for the government”? What does that even mean? Obviously, you don’t work in accounting or any meaningful related position in “the government”, otherwise you would have said it. You sound like women who say “I work in the Medical field!” Because they are CNAs. I’m not interested in arguing or debating you. I can agree to disagree.

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That’s a stretch. Businesses must respect demand. They can’t just pay whatever they want. If the pay is low, desirable employees will go to higher paying employers. You are trying real hard to find a way for no taxes to be bad for the employee. Following your logic, do you think the Federal government should raise taxes on OT so businesses increase salaries?

Unlike tip taxes I have an example for this one.

20 years ago, when working security in Vancouver, I met an elderly Indian guard from another company. We talked shop and I found out he made $3 an hour less than me. He asked why I left my post. Told him it was a coffee break. He said "at Polo Security we make our coffee at home."

So I asked "that sounds rough. Why do you keep working for them?" His eyes lit up "Because they give you all the overtime you can work. I put in 60 hours every week."

The numbers whirled through my head. "So 20 hours a week at time and a half. That's almost another check."

"Oh no" he corrected. "Our overtime is regular pay. But you still make more money."

I shook my head. It was completely illegal, but Canada's labor laws are poorly enforced. And immigrants can't collect benefits until they've been in the country 10 years. This poor guy probably needed the money even if he had to work himself half to death.

In the next few weeks I noticed Polo Security were at nearly every mall, apartment complex and grocery store. The guards came in every age and ethnicity. All looked half asleep and burnt out.

Moral of the story, there is no shortage of desperate souls willing to give up their health, dignity, and rights for a few extra dollars. There's no shortage of greedy companies willing to exploit them. Eliminating overtime tax makes it that much easier.
 
I quoted what SSA.gov, Office of The Inspector General, and Congress.gov is telling us. You know more because you “work for the government”? What does that even mean? Obviously, you don’t work in accounting or any meaningful related position in “the government”, otherwise you would have said it. You sound like women who say “I work in the Medical field!” Because they are CNAs. I’m not interested in arguing or debating you. I can agree to disagree.

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Your hoe ass projecting again. You the only one acting like a woman.
 
I worked for the government. I know what the fuck they do.


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That was your response to information from SSA.gov, The Office of The Inspection General, and Congress.gov. I’m not saying that only women make up shit to avoid being wrong. Bitch kniggas do too. You appear to be one of the two. Get back to work at your “government job” Miss Budget Expert
 
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Sure.

Kennedy Tax Cuts (Revenue Act of 1964)

What happened: President John F. Kennedy proposed, and President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law, a massive tax cut that reduced the top marginal income tax rate from 91% to 70%, and the corporate tax rate from 52% to 48%.
  • Outcome:
    • GDP growth jumped from 2.4% (1961–1963 average) to 5.8% in 1964 and 6.5% in 1965.
    • Unemployment fell from 5.2% in 1964 to 3.8% in 1966.
    • Real wages grew during this time due to strong demand and low unemployment.
I'm going to pretend like you don't know about any of the legislation that was going on during that time to think that tax cuts are what led to that growth bro. Contextualize history my guy. If anything the economy would have grown more had they not reduced the marginal tax rate. Not for nothing but I am pretty scholarly my dude I usually don't ask questions like that if I don't already have good answers.
 
Name one time in history where tax breaks resulted in prices coming down or wages increasing. You're full of shit my guy, the only one fantasizing here.

You challenged me to find an example and I successful answered your challenge. You respond by calling me full of shit. You got it. Have a good night.
 
You challenged me to find an example and I successful answered your challenge. You respond by calling me full of shit. You got it. Have a good night.
No no,I'm telling you you're wrong that your example is wrong. Maybe ask Claude instead of Grok this time. Trickle down doesn't work. Good night.
 
No no,I'm telling you you're wrong that your example is wrong. Maybe ask Claude instead of Grok this time. Trickle down doesn't work. Good night.
I'll be the first to admit I'm on some folks' Ignore List. But when I see y'all and your good intentions with folks on my ignore list, I know y'all have that Harriet Spirit.
 
I am trying to get people to see my time or idea as having a monetary value. If you drag me into a peon battle, there are significant cost. Some people think I can spend all day and nite with their feeble schemes. It is getting better slowly. I have been sending out collection notices and filing lawsuits which is a good tool.

Some people walk into a retail outlet thinking the items are free. Loss prevention detain them. Human labor, Intellectual Property is 10x worse. Most people through repetition see a physical item as requiring payment.
 
1. Food
2. Shelter
3. Children
4. Transportation

If somebody is paying a mortgage after putting 20% down with renovation, work requirement should be waived

Rent that is being paid and current

Any children in household.

You can use an asset test for somebody with a huge 401k that wants to sit on Medicaid in conjuction with proof of household expenses. You can be a millionaire but you have $20,000 mortgage payment plus prop taxes. The millionaire is excluded from medicaid, get rid of the spend down garbage with some type of ratio.

You can take a huge chunk of people with this before using work requirement. Somebody taking naps on the street choosing not to work

Medicaid and UI are two different social safety nets. Medicaid does not provide any cash benefits while UI does. This might work for UI.
 
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The Democrats have a chance to take over the Senate next year. Because of this stupid bill passing, I always thought it was going to get the house but now the Senate is in play.
 
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