Yeah? You do know the end goal is June 1954, right?
Goodbye MEDICAID: BREAKING: House Republicans have released their budget resolution. They are aiming to cut Medicaid by at least $880 billion
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Yeah? You do know the end goal is June 1954, right?
That bill is DOA in the senate.
Yup they talked to a food rep Republican senators and they are very pissed off surprisingly of this bill. Knowing damn well a lot of their continuous will get affected by this bill.
Don't believe shit republicans say until an actual budget is passed. Then will actually see how pissed they really were.
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Not a lot of of them are paying attention now because there’s a chance the Democrats may take back the Senate next year and if they pass this bill it will happen Also, there’s a lot of sneaky shit they put in this bill that could really fuck up everybody in the future.
When you get the interest deduction on that nice car, how is it going to work when someone steals it for food?
Naw man. That shit ain't passing as is. It makes those career politicians in the senate choose themselves over Trump.
The propaganda runs deep. Brothers just don’t look at things critically anymore and instead just go 100% with the talking points of the media. Our entitlement programs are heavily abused. If you have any familiarity with the hood, you know multiple people who are able bodied but get their healthcare, housing and/or financial income from entitlement programs paid by taxpayers. All races are cheating the system too. It benefits all of us to give less to the illegal and lazy and more to the people actually contributing to the system. No taxes on tips or OT is a whole lot of money for the service industry and Blue collar WORKERS.
Your response is trash. Taxes on tips. Everybody gives tips by card. So, that shit gone be taxed because it is meant for paper money. Everybody who gets social benefits needs them. If you get caught cheating the system that's five years in jail. Plus, you have to document the need.
The senate not passing the bill exactly as the the house presented to the senate is nothing out of the ordinary.
Yet if the senate just changes a few things here and there. Then send it backto the house for reconciliation. Yet the results are still the same. Does it really matter that the bill didn't pass identically the house first passed it?
You clearly didn’t read or think critically. I said the abuse of entitlement programs is the issue—not the existence of them. And if you’ve spent any time in struggling communities, you know firsthand there are folks gaming the system. That doesn’t mean everyone is—but pretending abuse isn’t a problem helps nobody.
The GAO and OIG reports show there is fraud—look up improper payment rates for SNAP, Medicaid, or unemployment insurance. Some programs see billions in annual fraud and overpayment. So yeah, enforcement matters.
Now about tips: sure, card tips are tracked—but are you honestly saying all tips are now taxed properly? Service workers still underreport cash, and many employers steal or misclassify tips altogether. So who really benefits from cracking down harder on tips? Not the worker—especially when they’re already living check to check. That’s why reform, not blanket taxation, is the key.
And just because someone gets caught cheating and could go to jail doesn’t mean most cheaters do. Enforcement is uneven. Documentation can be faked. Let’s stop pretending the system is airtight.
If you’re a hardworking taxpayer, you should want your money going to people who are genuinely in need or actively contributing—not to those taking advantage of weak oversight. That’s not propaganda. That’s accountability.
They haven't figured out the game yet.
this ain't true.
Case in point: to get the ACA signed the senate had to pass a bill that was significantly different from what the house got through.
In this case budget resolution and bill reconciliation ain't simple.
We're not talking about Obama and the dem congress. We're talking about Trump and the republican congress. You know the republican congress that has abdocated their powers over to Trump/MAGA.
Btw you can't say whats true or not until a budget is actually passed.
most if not the vast majority of poor people are WORKING POOR already. This notion that theres millions of able bodied lazy folk on Medicaid is a hoax.
Sir, we ARE talking about House and Senate bill reconciliation. I gave a valid comparison on how branches with a majority STILL had to change a bill significantly in order for it to pass.
and YOU cant say whats true or not until its actually passed or fails.
at least i'm using historical precedent.
The problem is they're going after the poor and not the businesses that are committing the fraud, waste, and abuse.
When businesses are caught most times it's just a slap on the wrist.
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Bro you're starting with a false premise. Who said the bill had to be significantly different inordered for a bill to reach Trump's desk?
Your historical precedent is irrelevant in that aspect. Republicans have folded more than once and all that is need is for the house and Senate to pass identical bills. Which just means they have to iron out some difference whether big or small. Yet like I said what difference will it make if the outcome is still the same? e.g. Cuts in benefits for the less fortunate and even more tax reduction for the wealth?
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No niggah, I think I read and comprehend pretty well. You said our system is abused. I say that's bullshit. And, if it is abused, the shit is so minuscule its negligible. That Repub talking point ain't two inches of shit. That has always been bullshit. So, find another argument.
They are making cuts to SNAP. MSM is exaggerating people losing coverage.
I would boost my 401k, HSA, after tax investments to counter entitlement changes with some of the tax cuts.
SS is definitely getting cut, plan your retirement now with the benefits getting cut by 20% when it hits insolvency. No way I can see a tax hike to pay for it.
I would boost my 401k, HSA, after tax investments to counter entitlement changes with some of the tax cuts.
SS is definitely getting cut, plan your retirement now with the benefits getting cut by 20% when it hits insolvency. No way I can see a tax hike to pay for it.
Why are you so emotional about a difference of opinion?
Improper Payments: Between fiscal years 2015 and 2022, the Social Security Administration (SSA) made nearly $72 billion in improper payments, primarily overpayments.
Source: Office of The Inspector General
In fiscal year 2024, the SSA’s Office of the Inspector General received 332,927 allegations of fraud, with approximately half involving false personation or Social Security Number misuse.
Source: Congress.gov
SSI Program Challenges: The SSA acknowledges that the SSI program faces significant payment accuracy challenges, often due to complex eligibility requirements and reliance on beneficiaries to self-report changes in their circumstances.
Source: Office of The Inspector General
According to the 2024 Social Security Trustees Report, the combined Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) and Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Funds are projected to be depleted by 2035 if no legislative action is taken .
Source: ssa.gov
The OASI Trust Fund, which provides retirement and survivor benefits, is expected to be exhausted by 2033, after which it could pay about 77% of scheduled benefits.
Source: ssa.gov
You projecting. Never emotional. So, the government don't retrieve overpayments?
Remember this shit … what do you think now
They got this Medicaid work requirement in Georgia. Some of you.need to chime in on what it like instead of crying to @^SpiderMan^. There is nothing you can do about this bill, throwing a tantrum won't help.
Barbershop was probably staged event filled with nothing but CACoons
It's the same tired argument repubs use whenever they are trying to cut services to people that need it to give to people that don't need it.
Let's not focus on the millions of children that literally do not starve because of the program. Let's focus on the one dude in the hood buying crab legs. The righteous indignation over the possiblity that one tax dollar wouldn't go where it was intended weighted against children going hungry. We gonna choose greed over charity. If we aren't going to help people that need it what's the point of government. If we aren't going to protect the children and the old people then what kind of community do we have.
But the coons like Spiderhonkey aka Dancing gums Timmy and the bots that nobody responds too want us to willingly allow them to crush the poor to help the rich. It's disgusting.
Mic drop. And acting like the focus needs to be on that rather than the payment to weapons manufacturers.
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I provided links to government agencies reporting improper payments, fraud, challenges to prevent fraud, and that retirement and survivor benefits and Disability insurance is running out of money if changes aren't made. If you disagree with the data or think there’s more to the story, I’m open to hearing your perspective. But let’s keep it about the facts—not ego or point-scoring.
Without a tax on tips service jobs are about to pay minimum wage or less and the standard tip will jump to 75%.
Non-tipped jobs cut their wages in half but promise lots of overtime.
It's just a blatant way to starve and overwork the masses until they're too exhausted to fight back.
Your response is full of assumptions. Why would the standard tip increase 75% because it isn't taxed? It makes more sense for tips to decrease because the server will receive a larger percentage of it. You also assume that service jobs will all pay less because tips aren't taxed. Can you provide an example that leads you to assume this? People are paid what they accept. If a business offers less pay, the desirable employees will choose to work for the similar business that pays more money. It is crazy the gymnastics that some of you do to support "your team". We all know that making Over Time tax free is a benefit to the worker. You created a whole scenario that isn't backed up by history or data to make it seem like it is better for OT to be taxed.
It's amusing how much they claim to save by eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse. It seems they are aware of its existence but haven't taken action until now that this bill is on the table. They will argue that the bill will be self-funding through economic growth, but history indicates otherwise, as both Reagan and Bush contributed to the deficits along with other Presidents. These significant tax cuts were guaranteed to benefit the wealthy, and unfortunately, this bill is likely to pass.
