A lot of the clips are already from patreon
Joe Budden podcast done? No Rory or Mal for 2nd straight episode
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A lot of the clips are already from patreon
Joe an asshole for sure! And he will exploit everything if he thinks he can sell it…
And to be fair? It seems to be working out extremely well for him financially.
Its crazy just how many OTHER podcast have came and went in the same time?
Friends and family now enemies? Some broke?
Asshole though he is? He is one if the pioneers of this space.
And not a good person. But a great businessman.
It’s a form of entertainment so I’m not gonna ever take it seriously! They may have serious conversations or subjects; but to take any of them serious on the pod is a no for me…
aight thanks. i seen the full clip i think gemini or dc posted the twitter link
yeah he did tell her we can have this off cam
Marc been going in tho lol i mean she deserves it cause she wants to jump on marc from time to time
marc peeped it and is shooting back
Its MLH Pussy! lol
joe its all entertaining but its mad annoying how joe keeps jumping on mell
it takes away from the topic sometimes
joe knows how to pod thats why he is where he is.
Funny in the clip Joe tried to defend Mel.
Marc was accused of taking a lot of subs shots and criticism toward Mel recently challenging her points when it seemed initially he was her back up.
They apparently texted and spoke privately but it continued and Joe brought it up.
She tried to backtrack and pissed Joe off because he said you complain then when I try to expose it you make it seem like it was my idea?
Gaslight 101 Mel probably mentioned it privately for it to be addressed privately but not for content
Anyway the guys got involved kinda defending Mel? Then Marc got defensive and says he didn't like how he was being portrayed (especially toward a woman) on camera and proceeded to threaten to pull receipts. Mel started getting a little emotional.
Now this is going left, Joe says he doesn't think this should air. The guys wanted no parts of this. Marc wants to make sure he is NOT being labeled a bully. Mel doesn't want to be seen as an overly emotional troublemaker.
Patreon request.
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Soap opera sh*t
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I just don't want to be the no fun old head complaining about how these people are mixing real and fake too much to a very susceptible audience.
You know that’s a great point! But he does say at the beginning of each pod this is for entertainment purposes only…
that's just smart for legal reasons...
notice WHEN he started stated that before the shows?
Tashe K I see you.
I think the issue is that she doesn't seem like she can speak up for herself and wants people to speak for her and know what she's feeling. That's a lot of women. I don't think she's used to male straight friends or being around a bunch of men.
Marc is logical and analytical, so he wanted examples. The same way when he points out things to show how logically flawed some of the stuff she says is or how she contradicts herself.
To say you're bullying me is a pretty big accusation, and she doesn't seem to realize it.
Honestly, I'm not sure why she's on the pod, she doesn't seem to get it and how it's entertainment. She takes everything too seriously and throws the whole vibe off. I guess she wants to be Ice where they don't try to joke his sensitive ass at all, but if you're like that you shouldn't be the woman on the show. Bridget and Mona can handle themselves.
I don't watch the show ENOUGH to make a truly informed opinion.
But from what I HAVE seen?
Your not wrong. But it IS difficult to be a woman on an all male show. And Not the SMARTEST most sensitive informed gentlemen to be honest.
So it is NOT ALL her fault either. Because like you mentioned? This dude be sensitive overreacting muthafukas too.
I like what I see of her and would rather get rid of Flip or someone else way before her.
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they do jump her a lot tho. and the one that needs jumping is that kuun ice.
but joe knows he sensitive and leaves him alone. he did call him a kuun multiple times and ice doesnt even care lol
but thats why i like ish on the show cause he will get at joe asap
marc was shooting cause mel was shooting is fair game
but that only goes for marc.
and flip man he walways makes things weird with mel
creepy ass
He has a point, but i don't think its as bad as he's stating. I love dark complected women but I may be an anomaly
i watched Ellivation talk about that clip and I saw the clip in it's entirety and I agree with Marc. Like Don't say "Did I do something to you?" and then when he's ready to talk about it on the pod (Content over everything) you dont want to talk about it. For me, I do feel like this is something that could have been discussed off camera if it's that serious, but if you say "No" then it's fair game.
I'm attracted to dark skin women but I see what he's saying. Like my mom made this point years ago when watching the NBA draft...how many darkskinned women are with these NBA players? They are either lightskinned, mixed or white" I couldn't defend it.
Good point
My thing is, Mel asks the question on the pod.
"Did I do something to you?"
Marc answers, "No." And then he asks, "Do you think I shoot at you more than, Emanny, Flip or Ish?"
And the answers were no.
Joe says he's going to put this clip out, repeatedly.......
Marc further explains his point
Then Mel becomes dismissival, but then says she doesn't want this to become a Marc V Mel issue, yet then why the fuck did you bring it up on the pod?! This could've happened off camera.
Then to say she wants the whol clip cut from the pod..... (which l, I mean, it should have been, since they all have the right to ask for cuts)
But still this could have been handled better
Apparently, they can ask for a cut, but it's not guaranteed this will happen. That's completely different than how it was presented in the past. You can argue most companies wouldn't hear you at all, but it really is pointless unless more often than not the request is respected. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle and the comments are cut because it could impact the show or Joe himself.
Ive shared my thoughts on Mel in the past. this situation was kind of fucked up but she fell for it. Clearly, she thought she'd have support from Joe or others. Flip and Joe hyped her up, setback laughed and said oh I didn't know this was serious.
Mel wasn't willing to speak for herself and honestly Marc's counter was true. Not only was it true for Marc but most of the cast. At this point, Emony and Flip get belittled the most. Ish is clearly used for content at times as well. Mel seemingly really does want special treatment and falls back on being a victim due to being a woman when that doesn't happen. Truthfully, I think they treat Parks differently because he is White and he doesn't present himself like Rory. That would leave Ice who really is the weakest link even under E on the surface. It crazy that a known troll can't take jokes. There are exceptions but most of what we see is how men act amongst themselves for better or worse. Mel being a woman just doesn't fit into that culture.
I think Joe released the clip because it was Marc and not another member of the cast. Chances are if it's Ish, he'll get emotional at somepoint and then it looks like a woman is being attacked by a group of men. Joe's said as much in one of the behind the scenes. With Marc being seen as a champion of women and being more articulent without the emotional outburst, Marc is safe.
Not only that most clearly view Mel as the aggressor. Even if Marc was being a smart ass per the norm, he gets to play it like that isn't the case after Mel displayed having a clear issue with Marc's comments. Even though i get her snapping at Flip, it helped with making her look like the issue here. Yes, he called himself trying to help, but im guessing none of them like to look dumb compared to Marc, so Flip cutting her off pissed her off more. That and she didn't know what Flip would say and assumed it would be in support of Marc or try to be funny in general. If you are constantly being sarcastic, it's not unreasonable for Mel or anyone to feel like Marc is going at them again especially since the fans seem to enjoy it. This is one of the few times Mel was gaslighted by Joe, Flip and potentially Marc.
This
and this
but then when asked to give her feelings she'll say she doesn't say she doesn't feel it's a safe space or it's because she's a woman.
It's really a no win situation, because you see from the beginning Mel is going to try and be the victim and the men are going to be the villains. The internet does that shit now with people looking to be perpetual victims out of self diagnosis.
The thing with me is Marc was right. But for me, it's the overall podcast.
Like, Joe likes to joke with Mel a lot, but then Flip joins and makes it creepy.
but they do it throughout the show, which takes away from the pod
So when Marc or Ish are shooting, it looks like she is getting attacked.
I said it before: remove her from the show or let her talk.
Let the audience decide. Ice says a lot of dumber things, and they leave him alone.
Because he is sensitive.
which makes the pod flow well.
Joe always calling Ice a Coon... "There is a word for that"... lol
Good discussion. This let's me know that flip is capable of doing and being more. I also think with more corporate interests in sports these days, everyone is the same.
interesting I may watch this. But its crazy thar Vlad said the same thing about Khalid years ago?
Personally I dont listen to anything Vlad has to say and that could be rooted in a general dislike for Khaled
We should all ignore Vlad. But he was a big press run during the Keefe D thing. And mentioned how Drake and Khalid shouldn't be so silent politically.
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