Ironheart lands its lead writer. I'm ready to see this one.

[yaBoi]

P0845

Why dont they just drop the whole season tho? Or do it weekly. The way they are doing it now is going to kill the show.

Naaa it's just the opposite..if the show doesn't screen well or they already know its ass they just drop multiple episodes..

If they know they have a hit they drip feed you a week at a time..

 

[dtownsfinest]

Actually, she flopped in the comic books, too. Look my thing is, why do all the black superheros have to be some side kick or a black version of a white charecter and when we do get heros they are generic as fuck, lame names and lame costumes, why not make black superheros with cool names and cool costumes with unique powers to stand on their own. This is what separates Black Panther and Storm from 90% of the heroes out there! They know it, but refuse to make these guys that their children would idolize the way our kids look up to Batman, Superman, and Thor.

I’m not understanding your criticism so Batman and Ironman are cool names but Ironheart is different?

I’m trying to see where you are coming from because I think there’s a good discussion to be had. I just don’t know if your criticisms fit here.

 

[dtownsfinest]

P0845

Naaa it's just the opposite..if the show doesn't screen well or they already know its ass they just drop multiple episodes..

If they know they have a hit they drip feed you a week at a time..

Yeah they dropped that damn Echo like it was nothing and I didn’t think it was bad but guess it didn’t register with viewers.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Go watch Daredevil and then get back to me on that... but to answer your questions, some of the scenes just didnt add up to me; comics and or superhero movies have unbelievable shit in them; so im not talking about that aspect; but for example, aint no billion dollar corporations and or owners moving around with shitty security or surveillance! Especially after they all know what this crew was doing; so again it was solid but i need to see more...

Daredevil the nigga with super strength there blind but whoop everyone ass?

 

[Day_Carver]

Daredevil the nigga with super strength there blind but whoop everyone ass?

Im saying the story lines are real from a story telling perspective...

 

[actinanass]

Did you read the comments in this thread?

no i didn't read the 5 pages prior my bad.

 

[actinanass]

So if I’m understanding you you want it to continue the same tired comic book shit we’ve been seeing over the years?

"tired comic shit" is how we even know what marvel is.

I'm simply saying that you can be both original, yet keeps a story that most people can resonate with.

Good writing can hide troupes because the story will be compelling enough that you actually root for the bad guys in some cases. Go look at the wire, sopranos, hell even more recently in Shogun. Good writing is what Disney lacks right now, and this show is a prime example of it.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Im saying the story lines are real from a story telling perspective...

How so? There’s nothing realistic about Daredevil I’m a fan but to me comic adaptions work because of how unrealistic it is.

 

[Day_Carver]

How so? There’s nothing realistic about Daredevil I’m a fan but to me comic adaptions work because of how unrealistic it is.

Take out the fighting scenes and his super powers; because we know thats a part of comics; what wasnt real in the story lines? what could you not see happening in real life?

 

[dtownsfinest]

"tired comic shit" is how we even know what marvel is.

I'm simply saying that you can be both original, yet keeps a story that most people can resonate with.

Good writing can hide troupes because the story will be compelling enough that you actually root for the bad guys in some cases. Go look at the wire, sopranos, hell even more recently in Shogun. Good writing is what Disney lacks right now, and this show is a prime example of it.

Yeah but understand The Wire and Sopranos are two of the greatest shows ever. High bar.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Take out the fighting scenes and his super powers; because we know thats a part of comics; what wasnt real in the story lines? what could you not see happening in real life?

I mean if you take all that out then yeah it’s a boring lawyer show. So yeah I’d agree take all that out it’s realistic but then you are left with a court room drama.

 

[actinanass]

Yeah but understand The Wire and Sopranos are two of the greatest shows ever. High bar.

And they did it with way less budget. Disney have no excuse.

 

[Day_Carver]

I mean if you take all that out then yeah it’s a boring lawyer show. So yeah I’d agree take all that out it’s realistic but then you are left with a court room drama.

 

[dtownsfinest]

And they did it with way less budget. Disney have no excuse.

Hold on man lol….there have been thousands of shows and The Wire and Sopranos is top notch television. Greatest shows ever.

I’m not even sure if you can even do that with a superhero show adapted from comics.

 

[actinanass]

Hold on man lol….there have been thousands of shows and The Wire and Sopranos is top notch television. Greatest shows ever.

I’m not even sure if you can even do that with a superhero show adapted from comics.

Disney is spending super bowl qb money on these shows, but getting Kirk Cousins results...

Go tell DC that story with Penguin...

Disney have no excuses....

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Question for the folks saying that this show is meh.
How did y'all feel about Daredevil?

 

[keone]

P0845

Naaa it's just the opposite..if the show doesn't screen well or they already know its ass they just drop multiple episodes..

If they know they have a hit they drip feed you a week at a time..

yeah i know but they made a mistake with this one

 

[keone]

"tired comic shit" is how we even know what marvel is.

I'm simply saying that you can be both original, yet keeps a story that most people can resonate with.

Good writing can hide troupes because the story will be compelling enough that you actually root for the bad guys in some cases. Go look at the wire, sopranos, hell even more recently in Shogun. Good writing is what Disney lacks right now, and this show is a prime example of it.

bro the wire and sopranos? shit regular shows cant even do that llol

 

[Simply Sickenin']

yeah i know but they made a mistake with this one

Do you think Daredevil was handled correctly by being released one episode at a time?

I waited until the season wrapped before watching so I could marathon the whole season in a weekend. And tbh, I thought Disney+ Daredevil was the weakest by far. If I had tried to watch it week to week, I don't think I would have made it to the end.

But going back to the discussion thread on here, it appears most people loved Daredevil Rehashed.

I just don't seem to be on the same page with most BGOL members when it comes to these Disney/Star Wars/Marvel shows.

 

[actinanass]

Question for the folks saying that this show is meh.
How did y'all feel about Daredevil?

Im a man that have 300 daredevil comics, and love the character.
I would say that Daredevil BA had an identity crisis. Again, bad writing from Disney.

 

[actinanass]

bro the wire and sopranos? shit regular shows cant even do that llol

The Penguin exists...

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Im a man that have 300 daredevil comics, and love the character.
I would say that Daredevil BA had an identity crisis. Again, bad writing from Disney.

Bad writing. That show had bad everything. Netflix Daredevil's greatest claim to fame was the fight choreography and right off bat, Disney Daredevil starts with a fight in dark obscured by CGI smoke that ends

Spoiler

with the anticlimactic death of a major character

And that was the first 10 minutes of the seasons.

 

[Day_Carver]

Hold on man lol….there have been thousands of shows and The Wire and Sopranos is top notch television. Greatest shows ever.

I’m not even sure if you can even do that with a superhero show adapted from comics.

You can; Disney has some really good TV shows that are comics so it can be done! Iron Heart is solid; I need to see more though...

 

[actinanass]

Bad writing. That show had bad everything. Netflix Daredevil's greatest claim to fame was the fight choreography and right off bat, Disney Daredevil starts with a fight in dark obscured by CGI smoke that ends

Spoiler

with the anticlimactic death of a major character

And that was the first 10 minutes of the seasons.

honestly, that first part in episode 1, and the punisher scenes were the highlights of the show. You can tell it was suppose to be some type of other show entirely most of the season. I did not like how they push Matt from his religion because of "reasons" too.

BTW, the worst part of that first part of episode 1 was that "spoiler".

 

[Day_Carver]

Im a man that have 300 daredevil comics, and love the character.
I would say that Daredevil BA had an identity crisis. Again, bad writing from Disney.

They wanted him to have an identity crisis! it wasnt bad writing; the dude was conflicted and anyone who is conflicted will have an identity crisis! you guys need to understand what bad writing is...

 

[actinanass]

You can; Disney has some really good TV shows that are comics so it can be done! Iron Heart is solid; I need to see more though...

The biggest one that had potential *and they fucked it up* was Wandavision. The premise of that show was interesting as fuck, but they had to pull the bullshit at the end. Other than that, and Xmen 97, most of their marvel TV shows been average to bad.

Disney isn't good at making TV.

 

[actinanass]

They wanted him to have an identity crisis! it wasnt bad writing; the dude was conflicted and anyone who is conflicted will have an identity crisis! you guys need to understand what bad writing is...

I'm saying the show had an identity crisis. There's a more congruent way of telling that story that would be gratifying to the audience. They chose to take the time to introduce what they want the audience to pay attention to. Instead of making a compelling story that would have resonated with most of their fans.

 

[yaBoi]

yeah i know but they made a mistake with this one

Lol..no they didn't

 

[Day_Carver]

The biggest one that had potential *and they fucked it up* was Wandavision. The premise of that show was interesting as fuck, but they had to pull the bullshit at the end. Other than that, and Xmen 97, most of their marvel TV shows been average to bad.

Disney isn't good at making TV.

Man, WandaVision was great to me; the acting that she did in that show was crazy!! And story was good as well; I aint got no complaints about that show at all; You sound crazy if you think the shows were average to bad; lets run them down:

WandaVision = great
Falcon and the Winter Soldier = good to great
What If all 3 seasons = good to great
Daredevil Born again = good good
Agatha all Along = good
Xmen 97= great
Moon Knight = solid to good(great acting)
Spiderman = good
Echo = solid
Loki season 1 and 2 = great
Secret Invasion = terrible
She Hulk = ok ( but I only watch like 2 episodes)
Hawkeye = solid
Ms Marvel = I didnt watch at all; wasnt for me; But the highest rated TV show lol; so it was for someone

And this doesnt include Werewolf by night=good; I Am Groot=good, Guardians Holiday Special=good, so either you a big time hater or just dont know how to watch and understand TV shows; but there is noway anyone is saying the TV SHows have been majority bad; its just a flat out ridiculous comment/statement.... @playahaitian

 

[Day_Carver]

I'm saying the show had an identity crisis. There's a more congruent way of telling that story that would be gratifying to the audience. They chose to take the time to introduce what they want the audience to pay attention to. Instead of making a compelling story that would have resonated with most of their fans.

I disagree entirely with this statement...

 

[actinanass]

Man, WandaVision was great to me; the acting that she did in that show was crazy!! And story was good as well; I aint got no complaints about that show at all; You sound crazy if you think the shows were average to bad; lets run them down:

WandaVision = great
Falcon and the Winter Soldier = good to great
What If all 3 seasons = good to great
Daredevil Born again = good good
Agatha all Along = good
Xmen 97= great
Moon Knight = solid to good(great acting)
Spiderman = good
Echo = solid
Loki season 1 and 2 = great
Secret Invasion = terrible
She Hulk = ok ( but I only watch like 2 episodes)
Hawkeye = solid
Ms Marvel = I didnt watch at all; wasnt for me; But the highest rated TV show lol; so it was for someone

And this doesnt include Werewolf by night=good; I Am Groot=good, Guardians Holiday Special=good, so either you a big time hater or just dont know how to watch and understand TV shows; but there is noway anyone is saying the TV SHows have been majority bad; its just a flat out ridiculous comment/statement.... @playahaitian

I just fundamentally disagree with this.

To keep it 100, I think most of these shows would have worked better if they were made for FX instead of Disney plus.

You have to understand where I'm coming from. I'm coming from a comic book fan perspective, and I lived through the best TV era since the 70's. My expectations on TV shows is going to be high. Marvel have some of the greatest stories ever in comics, and it seems like Disney is allergic to that library.

 

[Day_Carver]

I just fundamentally disagree with this.

To keep it 100, I think most of these shows would have worked better if they were made for FX instead of Disney plus.

You have to understand where I'm coming from. I'm coming from a comic book fan perspective, and I lived through the best TV era since the 70's. My expectations on TV shows is going to be high. Marvel have some of the greatest stories ever in comics, and it seems like Disney is allergic to that library.

You can disagree all you want Pimp; but you wrong with this one!! way off... but its all good; Mofos be wrong everyday; Mofos on this board think the earth is flat and will argue down mofos come on a porn board to point out flaws on women that are beautiful and will never meet and mofos hate on Marvel Studios; something they have never before seen in their lives what this studio has done; and still make ridiculous statements; so its all good...

 

[actinanass]

You can disagree all you want Pimp; but you wrong with this one!! way off... but its all good; Mofos be wrong everyday; Mofos on this board think the earth is flat and will argue down mofos come on a porn board to point out flaws on women that are beautiful and will never meet and mofos hate on Marvel Studios; something they have never before seen in their lives what this studio has done; and still make ridiculous statements; so its all good...

The one thing I do know, the shows on Disney Plus are not getting ratings. You can call me wrong all you want, numbers are on my side.

Honestly, you can ignore me if you like. We're not going to see eye to eye on this.

 

[Day_Carver]

The one thing I do know, the shows on Disney Plus are not getting ratings. You can call me wrong all you want, numbers are on my side.

Honestly, you can ignore me if you like. We're not going to see eye to eye on this.

Ratings lol now i know you sound crazy lol; Ima stop with this right here; I could kill you with all the other tv shows viewership as well; you sound crazy fam; just stop...


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[godofwine]

The second I saw the gay dude I thought that. They were just asking to be controversial.

I thought that, but it's something that could easily be ignored. As long as they don't have that gay mother fucker kissing anybody I don't care. The first time they want to throw that shit in our face, this shit is done. I do not want to see two men kissing