Iran vs Israel/US: 6/21 USA bombed 3 nuclear plants in Iran, ceasefire agreed 6/24(iran restocking and retooling)..Israel looking to attack again, smh




Donald Trump jabs Emmanuel Macron over comments about his early departure from G7​

President Donald Trump speaks with reporters while flying aboard Air Force One en route from Calgary, Canada to Joint Base Andrews, Md., late Monday, June 16, 2025. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein)

President Donald Trump speaks with reporters while flying aboard Air Force One en route from Calgary, Canada to Joint Base Andrews, Md., late Monday, June 16, 2025. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein)

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PARIS (AP) — What began with a handshake evolved into turbulence at 33,000 feet as one of diplomacy’s oddest relationships took another strange turn.

The political chemistry that once defined the Trump–Macron dynamic — immortalized by a famously tense 29-second handshake in 2017 — was nowhere to be seen in midair Tuesday when U.S. President Donald Trump blasted his French counterpart on social media.

As Trump departed the G7 summit early, French President Emmanuel Macron tried to reframe the exit as strategic.

“There is indeed an offer to meet and exchange,” Macron told reporters, suggesting the U.S. might help broker a ceasefire between Israel and Iran.

But aboard Air Force One, Trump responded with a swipe that accused Macron of showboating.

“Wrong! He is ‘publicity seeking’ and always gets it wrong,” Trump said in a post on his Truth Social site. “He has no idea why I am now on my way to Washington… Much bigger than that. Stay tuned!”

From left, France's President Emmanuel Macron, Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney and President Donald Trump, pose during a group photo at the G7 Summit, Monday, June 16, 2025, in Kananaskis, Canada. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein)

From left, France’s President Emmanuel Macron, Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney and President Donald Trump, pose during a group photo at the G7 Summit, Monday, June 16, 2025, in Kananaskis, Canada. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein)

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The takedown punctured Macron’s narrative and revealed a rupture in a relationship that has featured theater, flattery and touch.

Macron, who once styled himself as a “Trump whisperer,” has long used charm and proximity to try to manage the unpredictable U.S. leader, often contrasting himself with more openly critical peers like Germany’s Angela Merkel. But those efforts are far from foolproof.

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Questioning a push for regime change​

But as Trump became increasingly aggressive in his comments about Iran, urging Tehran’s “ UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER,” Macron eventually offered a blunt counter assessment, saying a push for regime change in Iran would spark “chaos” and further destabilize the Middle East.

“We do not want to see Iran acquire nuclear weapons or ballistic capabilities,” Macron told reporters at the G7. “But I believe the greatest mistake today would be to pursue regime change in Iran through military means, as that would lead to chaos.”

Recalling the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, he continued: “Does anyone think what was done in Iraq in 2003 was a good idea? Does anyone think what was done in Libya last decade was a good idea? No.”

Macron also noted that he’d had ″the best relations in the world″ with Trump during the U.S. president’s first term.

Their diplomatic style has never been purely transactional — and has often been tactile. From their earliest encounters, physical gestures have been part of the pageantry: Trump’s firm pats and arm-yanks, Macron’s theatrical poise and instinctive touches.

French President Emmanuel Macron, left, meets U.S President Donald Trump during a ceremony to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day at the Normandy American Cemetery in Colleville-sur-Mer, Normandy, France, on June 6, 2019. (Ian Langsdon/Pool via AP, File)

French President Emmanuel Macron, left, meets U.S President Donald Trump during a ceremony to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day at the Normandy American Cemetery in Colleville-sur-Mer, Normandy, France, on June 6, 2019. (Ian Langsdon/Pool via AP, File)

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The roots of their rapport run deep. In 2017, Macron dazzled Trump with a Bastille Day parade, formal dinners and white-knuckle handshakes. A viral 29-second grip — knuckles white, jaws clenched — set the tone for a relationship of theatrical dominance.

The physical choreography evolved over the years: Trump yanking Macron’s arm at the Élysée, Macron placing a steadying hand on Trump’s thigh in Washington. Their February 2025 White House meeting brought a refined version of the dance as Macron delivered corrections with charm, countering Trump’s Ukraine comments while laughing at Fort Knox jokes.

France's President Emmanuel Macron arrives during the official welcome of the G7 Summit, Monday, June 16, 2025, in Kananaskis, Canada. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein)

France’s President Emmanuel Macron arrives during the official welcome of the G7 Summit, Monday, June 16, 2025, in Kananaskis, Canada. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein)

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Signals of strain before the summit​

Trump joked about Macron’s marriage last month after a video of Brigitte Macron playfully pushing her husband surfaced. “Make sure the door remains closed,” he quipped, before adding: “They’re fine.”

But the chill had already begun to set in.

This month, Macron traveled to Greenland — a territory Trump has floated buying — to express solidarity with Danish sovereignty.

“This is not what is done between allies,” Macron said, in a message to Trump.

The G7 summit, intended to project Western unity on Russia and Iran, instead showcased fracture. Trump skipped the final sessions, refused to back new Russia sanctions, and warned Tehran to “immediately evacuate.”

Macron — who announced Tuesday that France will host the next G7 summit in 2026 at the lakeside Alpine resort of Evian-les-Bains — tried to frame the early exit as useful. Trump’s one-line rebuttal shut that down.

Trump’s clash with Macron wasn’t the only unscripted moment to puncture the summit’s polished exterior. Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni was filmed rolling her eyes as Macron whispered in her ear during a roundtable — a clip that quickly lit up social media. It was a flash of visible tension at a gathering meant to project unity amid war, economic uncertainty and global unrest.

President Donald Trump shakes hands with French President Emmanuel Macron during a meeting at the U.S. Embassy, May 25, 2017, in Brussels. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File)

President Donald Trump shakes hands with French President Emmanuel Macron during a meeting at the U.S. Embassy, May 25, 2017, in Brussels. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File)

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A turnabout​

Later aboard Air Force One, Trump softened his tone. When reporters asked about the outburst, he replied: “That was Emmanuel — nice guy but he doesn’t get it right too often.”

The pivot was familiar.

“It’s difficult to be confident about any clear arc in President Trump’s reactions to people or events,” said Dana Allin, U.S. policy expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies. “He tends to be disinhibited — he says what’s on his mind, and that can change quickly.”

There was no handshake this time. No shoulder clap. Just a flick of the thumb — and a public slap across the alliance.

The dynamic, Allin suggests, reflects a shift in how Europe engages with Washington. In Trump’s first term, many European leaders treated his behavior as a storm they could wait out.

“Now it seems like a more permanent thing,” Allin said.

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man, this video has so many points it's funny.. Everybody keeps forgetting about China.. No rare earths for you..



Also, I believe that Pakistan will also be on standby..
 
man, this video has so many points it's funny.. Everybody keeps forgetting about China.. No rare earths for you..



Also, I believe that Pakistan will also be on standby..



Dawg it’s easy to say that about Pakistan when they already said you Nuke them, we will nuke you…
 
I hear ya, I ain’t confused

So if Iran lock in on a B2 and bring it to the ground?
Not about you being confused. Its about the public not knowing whats happening and being explained after. Let things play out and will see.
 
Am I the only one that didn’t know this.

In 37 states it’s illegal to participate or initiate a boycott of Israel

To get employment you have to sign a waiver against involving ur self in any Israel boycott……OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

First is a trailer then the audio of a doc called Boycott

I truly can’t believe that this true.







Carry on……
 
no surprise ! after watching those videos looks like the ratio is at least -> 4/1 4 interceptors for 1 incoming missile !

Iran's military structure has always been about fighting an enemy who has air superiority they didn't even feel the need to replace their F4 Phantom until recently with that Su-35 order !

For Israel on the other side the cost must be staggering !


Edit :

After the Houthis Vs US aircraft carriers and now Iran Vs Israel we can see what asymmetrical warfare is all about -> very very expensive !!

my bet is at least 2 air refueling one on their way to Iran and the second when coming back cuz planes must be fully loaded (weapon wise) for their own protection and to accomplish their mission which often translates -> maximum weight for takeoff which means -> afterburner at 100%

Israelis are simply bleeding cash like craaazzyyyy !


Bro look at this piece… not sure if you seen it before




“Washington Post: 'Israel will only be able to maintain shooting down Iranian ballistic missiles for 10 or 12 more days, then they will need to start rationing munitions'

This could explain why Iran is opting to launch small but consecutive waves. Iran is likely using up some of their older / less sophisticated missiles to deplete Israeli defenses, to make way for the 'real' stuff later on. This is attritional warfare.

In most cases, a small wave of 3-5 Iranian ballistic missiles is enough to prompt the launch of about 10-15 Israeli interceptor missiles, with each one costing at least $12 million dollars (in the case of THAAD).

In contrast, even Iran's most modern missile, the Fattah-1, only costs about $200,000 to produce, according to the IRGC. If we assume 12 interceptors for one Fattah-1 missile (as seen in a video today), that means Israel is spending $144 million dollars to 'intercept' (not always successfully) a single Iranian hypersonic missile.

This is simply not sustainable. Within about two weeks, if Iran keeps up the current pace of fire, Israeli airspace will be at the mercy of Iran's far larger and more destructive solid fuel bsllistic missiles. Unless, of course, the U.S. intervenes directly.“
 
Am I the only one that didn’t know this.

In 37 states it’s illegal to participate or initiate a boycott of Israel

To get employment you have to sign a waiver against involving ur self in any Israel boycott……OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

First is a trailer then the audio of a doc called Boycott

I truly can’t believe that this true.







Carry on……

Not many know this, we post on it in the Palestinians thread
 
“Passage through the Strait of Hormuz only with Iran's permission
Khandouzi, former Minister of Economy: Starting tomorrow for 100 days, no oil tanker or LNG cargo should be able to pass through the Strait except with Iran's approval.
This policy is decisive if implemented "on time." Any delay in its implementation means tolerating more war within the homeland. Trump's battle must be ended with a combination of economy-security.”
 
Not many know this, we post on it in the Palestinians thread

 
 

I know it isn't what it means, but I swear this makes it sound like they will just have a meeting with an Iranian. Any Iranian. The first one they can pull off of the street to provide input.

And it won't even be an actual Iranian, probably. Just the first "arabic" looking person they can find on the street corner.

I need to stop. It's late. I'm loopy, and genuinely concerned for the world right now.
 
A split forms in MAGA world as Trump weighs next steps on Iran, with some top stars rebuking him

Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, commentator Tucker Carlson and conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk — with legions of their own devoted followers — are reminding audiences of Trump’s 2024 promises to resist overseas military involvement after a week of deadly strikes and counterstrikes between Israel and Iran, and discussion of U.S. involvement.

BY MEG KINNARD AND THOMAS BEAUMONT
June 17, 2025


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U.S. Representative Marjorie Taylor Green (R-GA)
 
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