Iran vs Israel/US: 6/21 USA bombed 3 nuclear plants in Iran, ceasefire agreed 6/24(iran restocking and retooling)..Israel looking to attack again, smh

so just to put something in perspective


What’s happening with Iran and Israel for as air strikes

Actually is the same thing happened in Gaza

The IDF went in thinking shit will be sweet and pretty much got got, and still getting handled.

Same shit with Hezbollah In Lebanon.
Israel actually controls more land now in Lebanon after the creasefire…

They bout sneak attacks, killing civilians in hopes of them rallying against the government, blowing up buildings

The problem is Hezbollah, Hamas and Houthis really didn’t attack civilians building like that.
Iran missile power is what folks wonder Israel of…

Israelis never fought an enemy who can match them as far as power of destruction is concerned people talked about Egypt back then but Egyptians were not about that life with Iran it's another galaxy they ain't Arabs but Persians they ain't Sunni but Shia ! -> FAFO on steroids !
 
Look at this bullshit


Either you want it or not



“The forever war is what Iran wants, and they're bringing us to the brink of nuclear war," - Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu tells ABC News.“

Vs


- "In fact, what Israel is doing is preventing nuclear war, bringing an end to this aggression, and we can only do so by standing up to the forces of evil," - Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu tells ABC News.
 
“Preparations for launches of ballistic missiles from Iran have been recorded.”

“The Israeli Home Front Command has ordered residents in several parts of Israel to remain close to shelters.”

“Ballistic missile launches from Iran are expected soon.”
 
China is obtaining inexpensive oil from Iran, and I believe that with China's backing, the price of oil will decrease even more for them.
 
Dawg something else to think about…


Iran is fighting from Iran…


Israel plan of action takes plenty to pull off

They need coronation with other nations in the area, because they need their airspace.

So for Iran drone and missiles to hit Tel Aviv is a task in itself.

Isreal need to be close to Iran to conduct these strikes. Bibi Sauk g they have air superiority might a 50/50 statement. They definitely dipping in and out.

That’s how the F 35 were shut down in Iranian airways, pilots had to fly over all those other nations to get to Iran
 
Good luck with Trump trying to draft these GenZers. They're gonna be on Tiktok making content.

"It's giving broke boy, Trump!"

:lol:
All it will take is someone who is drafted to say "I get to learn how to shoot MAGA loyalists? Great, I'm in.. There was a whole bunch of them at Fort Bragg that were at the Trump rally.."..
 
Us wanted to Divide China from Russia and Iran


Fucking with these only forcing them to become more dependent on each other…

Been an opposite scenario to be honest
 
This is so dumb.

These two countries dont even need to be at war. No one even knows why they hate each other. Thats the worst part, think about it, no one knows why they hate each other.

Seriously they are just smh...
 
Dawg something else to think about…


Iran is fighting from Iran…


Israel plan of action takes plenty to pull off

They need coronation with other nations in the area, because they need their airspace.

So for Iran drone and missiles to hit Tel Aviv is a task in itself.

Isreal need to be close to Iran to conduct these strikes. Bibi Sauk g they have air superiority might a 50/50 statement. They definitely dipping in and out.

That’s how the F 35 were shut down in Iranian airways, pilots had to fly over all those other nations to get to Iran

Iran's military structure has always been about fighting an enemy who has air superiority they didn't even feel the need to replace their F4 Phantom until recently with that Su-35 order !

For Israel on the other side the cost must be staggering !


Edit :

After the Houthis Vs US aircraft carriers and now Iran Vs Israel we can see what asymmetrical warfare is all about -> very very expensive !!
 
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This is so dumb.

These two countries dont even need to be at war. No one even knows why they hate each other. Thats the worst part, think about it, no one knows why they hate each other.

Seriously they are just smh...


Israel wants to be the leader of the new Middle East.
 
This is so dumb.

These two countries dont even need to be at war. No one even knows why they hate each other. Thats the worst part, think about it, no one knows why they hate each other.

Seriously they are just smh...
You must not be able to read or have a critical thinking process.. Israel has long been the driving force behind wanting to get the US to fight Iran. Do you even know how the country of Israel was founded? Israel is also currently expanding its territory throughout the middle east. Israel is the most manipulative country there is.. I know that this may be a "Colin", your not going to read the following information, but please educate yourself so that you will be better informed..

In 1953, the US, alongside Britain, orchestrated a coup that removed Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh from power. This operation, known as "Operation Ajax," was motivated by concerns over Iran's nationalization of its oil industry and fears of communist influence. The coup led to the restoration of the Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who then ruled as a pro-Western dictator for the next 25 years.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Mossadegh's Nationalization:

In 1951, Mossadegh's government nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (now BP), a move that angered Britain and the US, who saw it as a threat to their oil interests.

US-UK Involvement:

The CIA and British intelligence services, with the support of some Iranian elements, planned and executed the coup.

Operation Ajax:

This operation involved various tactics, including bribery, propaganda, and the orchestration of riots, to undermine Mossadegh's government.

Consequences:

The coup led to the Shah's return to power and the establishment of a pro-Western authoritarian regime that lasted until the Iranian Revolution of 1979.

Legacy:

The 1953 coup continues to be a source of tension and mistrust between the US and Iran, with many Iranians viewing it as a key moment of foreign interference in their country's affairs, according to AP News.



The creation of the state of Israel in 1948 was a complex process with roots in historical events, the Zionist movement, and international political developments.

Key factors leading to the creation of Israel:

  • Zionist Movement: Emerging in the late 19th century, Zionism was a political movement advocating for a Jewish homeland in Palestine, driven by the desire for Jewish self-determination and fueled by antisemitism in Europe.
  • British Mandate in Palestine: Following World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain control over Palestine. The British government issued the Balfour Declaration in 1917, supporting the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine, while also stating that the rights of existing non-Jewish communities should not be prejudiced. This set the stage for increased Jewish immigration and growing tensions with the Arab population.
  • Increased Jewish immigration: Driven by the Zionist movement and intensified by the persecution of Jews in Europe, particularly during and after the Holocaust, there was a significant increase in Jewish immigration to Palestine.
  • Arab Opposition and Conflict: Palestinian Arabs opposed the Balfour Declaration and the increased Jewish immigration, fearing it would lead to a Jewish state. This led to rising Arab-Jewish tensions and violent confrontations.
  • The Holocaust: The systematic persecution and murder of six million Jews during the Holocaust significantly impacted the Zionist movement and generated international support for the idea of a Jewish homeland where Jews could be safe and independent.
  • UN Partition Plan (1947): Facing growing unrest in Palestine, Britain referred the issue to the newly formed United Nations. The UN General Assembly voted to adopt Resolution 181, which recommended partitioning Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, with Jerusalem as an international city.
  • Arab Rejection of Partition: The Arab leadership rejected the UN Partition Plan, arguing it was unfair to the Arab majority and violated the principle of self-determination.
  • Declaration of Independence (1948): On May 14, 1948, as the British Mandate ended, David Ben-Gurion declared the establishment of the State of Israel.
  • Arab-Israeli War (1948): Following Israel's declaration of independence, neighboring Arab states invaded, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Israel, with support from outside countries and the mobilization of its forces, including the Haganah, defended itself and ultimately prevailed.
  • Expansion of Territory: The war resulted in Israel controlling territory beyond that allocated in the UN Partition Plan.
  • Palestinian Displacement: The conflict led to the expulsion and flight of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs, known as the Nakba.
  • Armistice Agreements (1949): The war ended with armistice agreements that established temporary boundaries (the Green Line) but left unresolved issues, including the status of Palestinian refugees and the issue of Jerusalem.
The creation of Israel in 1948 was a pivotal event shaped by various factors, including the long history of the Jewish people's connection to the land, the rise of Zionism, the British Mandate, the impact of the Holocaust, and the conflict with the Arab population. It has had a profound and lasting impact on the political landscape of the Middle East.
 
You must not be able to read or have a critical thinking process.. Israel has long been the driving force behind wanting to get the US to fight Iran. Do you even know how the country of Israel was founded? Israel is also currently expanding its territory throughout the middle east. Israel is the most manipulative country there is.. I know that this may be a "Colin", your not going to read the following information, but please educate yourself so that you will be better informed..

In 1953, the US, alongside Britain, orchestrated a coup that removed Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh from power. This operation, known as "Operation Ajax," was motivated by concerns over Iran's nationalization of its oil industry and fears of communist influence. The coup led to the restoration of the Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who then ruled as a pro-Western dictator for the next 25 years.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Mossadegh's Nationalization:

In 1951, Mossadegh's government nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (now BP), a move that angered Britain and the US, who saw it as a threat to their oil interests.

US-UK Involvement:

The CIA and British intelligence services, with the support of some Iranian elements, planned and executed the coup.

Operation Ajax:

This operation involved various tactics, including bribery, propaganda, and the orchestration of riots, to undermine Mossadegh's government.

Consequences:

The coup led to the Shah's return to power and the establishment of a pro-Western authoritarian regime that lasted until the Iranian Revolution of 1979.

Legacy:

The 1953 coup continues to be a source of tension and mistrust between the US and Iran, with many Iranians viewing it as a key moment of foreign interference in their country's affairs, according to AP News.



The creation of the state of Israel in 1948 was a complex process with roots in historical events, the Zionist movement, and international political developments.

Key factors leading to the creation of Israel:

  • Zionist Movement: Emerging in the late 19th century, Zionism was a political movement advocating for a Jewish homeland in Palestine, driven by the desire for Jewish self-determination and fueled by antisemitism in Europe.
  • British Mandate in Palestine: Following World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain control over Palestine. The British government issued the Balfour Declaration in 1917, supporting the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine, while also stating that the rights of existing non-Jewish communities should not be prejudiced. This set the stage for increased Jewish immigration and growing tensions with the Arab population.
  • Increased Jewish immigration: Driven by the Zionist movement and intensified by the persecution of Jews in Europe, particularly during and after the Holocaust, there was a significant increase in Jewish immigration to Palestine.
  • Arab Opposition and Conflict: Palestinian Arabs opposed the Balfour Declaration and the increased Jewish immigration, fearing it would lead to a Jewish state. This led to rising Arab-Jewish tensions and violent confrontations.
  • The Holocaust: The systematic persecution and murder of six million Jews during the Holocaust significantly impacted the Zionist movement and generated international support for the idea of a Jewish homeland where Jews could be safe and independent.
  • UN Partition Plan (1947): Facing growing unrest in Palestine, Britain referred the issue to the newly formed United Nations. The UN General Assembly voted to adopt Resolution 181, which recommended partitioning Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, with Jerusalem as an international city.
  • Arab Rejection of Partition: The Arab leadership rejected the UN Partition Plan, arguing it was unfair to the Arab majority and violated the principle of self-determination.
  • Declaration of Independence (1948): On May 14, 1948, as the British Mandate ended, David Ben-Gurion declared the establishment of the State of Israel.
  • Arab-Israeli War (1948): Following Israel's declaration of independence, neighboring Arab states invaded, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Israel, with support from outside countries and the mobilization of its forces, including the Haganah, defended itself and ultimately prevailed.
  • Expansion of Territory: The war resulted in Israel controlling territory beyond that allocated in the UN Partition Plan.
  • Palestinian Displacement: The conflict led to the expulsion and flight of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs, known as the Nakba.
  • Armistice Agreements (1949): The war ended with armistice agreements that established temporary boundaries (the Green Line) but left unresolved issues, including the status of Palestinian refugees and the issue of Jerusalem.
The creation of Israel in 1948 was a pivotal event shaped by various factors, including the long history of the Jewish people's connection to the land, the rise of Zionism, the British Mandate, the impact of the Holocaust, and the conflict with the Arab population. It has had a profound and lasting impact on the political landscape of the Middle East.

Jesus Christ you are dumb.

You just copy pasted a bunch of shit from wikipedia that we all already knew, but you yourself you were unable to tie any of those events on your own, and you still couldn't explain why it makes them enemies today.

Copy pasting doesnt make you smart son. If you cant explain it on your own don't look down on people.

Iran itself was not affected by the creation of Israel in 48. Iran wasnt even one of the 6 countries that attacked Israel in 48.

Israel can "expand" as much as it wants. It is nowhere close to Iran's borders, and never getting there. So that doesnt affect Iran either. What you think Irak and Syria and Lebanon and Jordan will just cease to exist?

So Im going to try this one again. What is it that makes them enemies today?

If you dont know just say you dont know.
 
Iran's military structure has always been about fighting an enemy who has air superiority they didn't even feel the need to replace their F4 Phantom until recently with that Su-35 order !

For Israel on the other side the cost must be staggering !


Bro I appreciate you, your insight to the situation arounding these nations been spot on.
In this short time, I went from having no understanding to having a limited understanding.



For as the cost think about this their jet have to refuel during the missions

I’m not sure if they have to refuel to even get to Iran or they need to refuel on their way back I’m not sure

But this way Washington is send all of those refueling plane to the region.
 
Jesus Christ you are dumb.

You just copy pasted a bunch of shit from wikipedia that we all already knew, but you yourself you were unable to tie any of those events on your own, and you still couldn't explain why it makes them enemies today.

Copy pasting doesnt make you smart son. If you cant explain it on your own don't look down on people.

Iran itself was not affected by the creation of Israel in 48. Iran wasnt even one of the 6 countries that attacked Israel in 48.

Israel can "expand" as much as it wants. It is nowhere close to Iran's borders, and never getting there. So that doesnt affect Iran either. What you think Irak and Syria and Lebanon and Jordan will just cease to exist?

So Im going to try this one again. What is it that makes them enemies today?

If you dont know just say you dont know.
Mofo.. you are dumb.. You must be one of those "Drake" Jews.. Israel already occupies part of Syria and has annexed the majority of Palestine and the West Bank. The Arabs were there before the Jews "return". Before you comment on who is dumb, make sure that you take the "White Supremist/Jew dick/talking points" from your esophagus so that you can breathe and get some oxygen to your brain. Oxygen is required for critical thinking. Jews and Arabs have been at war since biblical times and the splitting of the Old Testament into the Quran and Torah. The non-melinated Jews that you see today aren't even the original jews, yet they claim to be "God's chosen people", and that they are better than anyone else. Here is a question that you need to answer.. Why is Israel allowed to have nukes yet Iran is not allowed to? Is not Iran its own sovereign country? Or does it scare you and your white masters when non-whites get the equal ability to defend themselves and cause equal damage to the aggressors? I mean heaven's forbid when Africa reunites overthrowing the "Berlin Conference" and develops their own nukes..
 
You must not be able to read or have a critical thinking process.. Israel has long been the driving force behind wanting to get the US to fight Iran. Do you even know how the country of Israel was founded? Israel is also currently expanding its territory throughout the middle east. Israel is the most manipulative country there is.. I know that this may be a "Colin", your not going to read the following information, but please educate yourself so that you will be better informed..

In 1953, the US, alongside Britain, orchestrated a coup that removed Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh from power. This operation, known as "Operation Ajax," was motivated by concerns over Iran's nationalization of its oil industry and fears of communist influence. The coup led to the restoration of the Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who then ruled as a pro-Western dictator for the next 25 years.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Mossadegh's Nationalization:

In 1951, Mossadegh's government nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (now BP), a move that angered Britain and the US, who saw it as a threat to their oil interests.

US-UK Involvement:

The CIA and British intelligence services, with the support of some Iranian elements, planned and executed the coup.

Operation Ajax:

This operation involved various tactics, including bribery, propaganda, and the orchestration of riots, to undermine Mossadegh's government.

Consequences:

The coup led to the Shah's return to power and the establishment of a pro-Western authoritarian regime that lasted until the Iranian Revolution of 1979.

Legacy:

The 1953 coup continues to be a source of tension and mistrust between the US and Iran, with many Iranians viewing it as a key moment of foreign interference in their country's affairs, according to AP News.



The creation of the state of Israel in 1948 was a complex process with roots in historical events, the Zionist movement, and international political developments.

Key factors leading to the creation of Israel:

  • Zionist Movement: Emerging in the late 19th century, Zionism was a political movement advocating for a Jewish homeland in Palestine, driven by the desire for Jewish self-determination and fueled by antisemitism in Europe.
  • British Mandate in Palestine: Following World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain control over Palestine. The British government issued the Balfour Declaration in 1917, supporting the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine, while also stating that the rights of existing non-Jewish communities should not be prejudiced. This set the stage for increased Jewish immigration and growing tensions with the Arab population.
  • Increased Jewish immigration: Driven by the Zionist movement and intensified by the persecution of Jews in Europe, particularly during and after the Holocaust, there was a significant increase in Jewish immigration to Palestine.
  • Arab Opposition and Conflict: Palestinian Arabs opposed the Balfour Declaration and the increased Jewish immigration, fearing it would lead to a Jewish state. This led to rising Arab-Jewish tensions and violent confrontations.
  • The Holocaust: The systematic persecution and murder of six million Jews during the Holocaust significantly impacted the Zionist movement and generated international support for the idea of a Jewish homeland where Jews could be safe and independent.
  • UN Partition Plan (1947): Facing growing unrest in Palestine, Britain referred the issue to the newly formed United Nations. The UN General Assembly voted to adopt Resolution 181, which recommended partitioning Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, with Jerusalem as an international city.
  • Arab Rejection of Partition: The Arab leadership rejected the UN Partition Plan, arguing it was unfair to the Arab majority and violated the principle of self-determination.
  • Declaration of Independence (1948): On May 14, 1948, as the British Mandate ended, David Ben-Gurion declared the establishment of the State of Israel.
  • Arab-Israeli War (1948): Following Israel's declaration of independence, neighboring Arab states invaded, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Israel, with support from outside countries and the mobilization of its forces, including the Haganah, defended itself and ultimately prevailed.
  • Expansion of Territory: The war resulted in Israel controlling territory beyond that allocated in the UN Partition Plan.
  • Palestinian Displacement: The conflict led to the expulsion and flight of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs, known as the Nakba.
  • Armistice Agreements (1949): The war ended with armistice agreements that established temporary boundaries (the Green Line) but left unresolved issues, including the status of Palestinian refugees and the issue of Jerusalem.
The creation of Israel in 1948 was a pivotal event shaped by various factors, including the long history of the Jewish people's connection to the land, the rise of Zionism, the British Mandate, the impact of the Holocaust, and the conflict with the Arab population. It has had a profound and lasting impact on the political landscape of the Middle East.
Allstate17 doesn't care about facts; please, don't waste your time responding to him. It's like talking to brick wall.
 
What new ME? Israel doesnt have relations with most countries in the ME.

Please explain.

Also what would you say Iran wants out of this?


That’s what they’re framing the future plan for the region. The New Middle East with Israel leading the charge.

Everyone knows (but many try to hide the truth) Iran is a top dawg in the Middle East. Folks been drafting papers and policies to topple Iran.

So the beef is that Israel wants Iran destabilized so they can be the leader of the region.

Seems like Iran beef is that Israel been fucking with them forever and know they don’t mean any good to the region
 
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