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I like Jokic, great player, great skills and obviously one of the best not just Centers but basketball players yet

Minus the defense :lol: I'm not saying that he doesn't play defense, I'm just saying that his effectiveness and presence is definitely not as strong as others especially the greats.

But let's not disrespect and discredit Kareem because he didn't throw great passes and have the assists.

Because he literally did EVERYTHING ELSE and was a winner and a game changer at every level since high school!
Like Kenny smith said the other week; no player in the history of the game has had a career like Kareem; from high school to college to the pros; no one has done it like Kareem!! So Kerr was being a little dramatic…
 
He can’t be greatest all time center. His athletic limitations keep him from that conversation. He can’t jump or move which means he can’t defend properly. Yes, offensively he’s up there but you gotta be able to protect the rim as a center to be the greatest. That is non negotiable. Putting up 50 and giving up 50 cancels you out. Two way players>>> at any position in the league.

Especially in a day and age where there are Centers who can damn near guard 1-5. They gotta stop ignoring defense….but they won’t.
Very well said! :bravo:

And I like Jokic, great player, amazing to watch and his stats are crazy for any position! Especially a Center getting it down the way he does it.

And it wasn't just a Jokic thing. I don't thank that Steve should say that about any Center from 40-50 years ago because the times, position play and what was asked of players was different.
 
Once he get his head on straight look out…
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You watching the game reindeer ?
I just got this motherfucker to come on with a crack site. My dumbass went four hours up north of Milwaukee to help out with outages from these ice storms that hit last week. I'm in fucking Rhinelander...damn near in Canada. Game wasn't even on here, but the Internet is good so my Xbox is working. Should be an easy win for the Bucks :cool:
 
What’s Steph record against LBJ in finals because that’s the only stat that matters? Let’s see if you get that right…
It matters that he begged KD to come save his legacy after the bitch blew a 3-1 lead too.

How many MVPs Bron got on Steph watch? Lets see if you get that right?
 
It matters that he begged KD to come save his legacy after the bitch blew a 3-1 lead too.

How many MVPs Bron got on Steph watch? Lets see if you get that right?
You sound like the old idiot you are! But let’s use your dumb logic. That means LBJ begged Chris Bosh to come play with him; and begged Wade also!! Stupid shit lol. Now let’s go your other dumb logic. What’s more important MVP or rings? But hey let’s say that a dumb player would say mvp. Hmm Steph is the only unanimous MVP right? The only NBA player ever in the history of the game !! Nough said. Now again the main record that matter the only that matters is 3-1. And let me just add Steph has 4 rings and LBJ has 3 1/2….
 
You sound like the old idiot you are! But let’s use your dumb logic. That means LBJ begged Chris Bosh to come play with him...
No you slow bus bitch. That comp only jives if Steph actually won some shit prior to that, and THEN Bron blew a 3-1 lead against him.. Also, Bosh was NEVER a top 3 player in this league as KD was.. Bosh also never was even in consideration for league or finals MVP. You truly are one dumb Bay Area bastard. Somebody go lock day carver back up in his cage. :lol:
 
It matters that he begged KD to come save his legacy after the bitch blew a 3-1 lead too.

How many MVPs Bron got on Steph watch? Lets see if you get that right?

Not to mention Steph has never outplayed Bron in a head to head matchup. All of his fans are casuals and Jordanites, so they think Finals record is a real stat. Chauncey Billups won a Finals MVP over Kobe in the biggest Finals upset in history. Guess that makes him better. :lol: Steph always relied on teammates to lead when he faced Bron. Golden State beat Cleveland, simple as that. But the Bron Lakers have owned the Dubs longer (7 years) this decade.

Steph is a great player, but the desire to project him over Bron is colorism and white passing ideology on steroids. Most people realize that.







Only someone who prioritizes light skin would try to argue he's better than Bron. Next it'll be Chris Brown is greater than James Brown, or Drake is greater than 2Pac, cuz they are fairer skinned and have bigger white fanbases. :roflmao:
 
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