Damn Tesla



Mufukkas advised hodl Tesla stonks :lol: :suicide:

Making money is about buying low and selling High. The time to buy is when the stock drops, not when it reaches all time highs.

I've disagreed with you both in the past about politics, but if you want to make money......Get a TSLA option. The one I recommend right now is the TSLA June 17, 2027 $450 CALL Option. You can get one for $62.80 right now which is a ridiculously good price.The cost of this option would be $6,280. If you have the money, I highly suggest buying as many of these as you can right now. I fully expect this option to more than triple in value. Tesla is one of the most volatile stocks out there and will be way over $500 by the end of this year. This option doesn't expire for over 2 years though. The reasons Tesla is dropping is low delivery numbers, tariffs, and sentiment. These reasons are BS because the 1st Quarter is a low period for the whole auto sector. Additionally, Tesla shut down the manufacturing lines to upgrade their best selling vehicle. Tesla will be less effected by Tariffs because they manufacture their vehicles in the countries that they sell them. This year, Tesla will release Robotaxis and a much cheaper vehicle model. They are refreshing their Model S and X vehicles. They have the most powerful AI computing cluster on Earth right now and expanding it much faster than competitors. They are releasing their DOJO chip which is an AI chip that will compete with NVIDIA's. I really hope yall listen to me and buy this option instead of arguing with me. And any other brothers reading this post. Its like seeing a lotto ticket on the ground and watching folks step over it.
 
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Making money is about buying low and selling High. The time to buy is when the stock drops, not when it reaches all time highs.

I've disagreed with you both in the past about politics, but if you want to make money......Get a TSLA option. The one I recommend right now is the TSLA June 17, 2027 $450 CALL Option. You can get one for $62.80 right now which is a ridiculously good price.The cost of this option would be $6,280. If you have the money, I highly suggest buying as many of these as you can right now. I fully expect this option to more than triple in value. Tesla is one of the most volatile stocks out there and will be way over $500 by the end of this year. This option doesn't expire for over 2 years though. The reasons Tesla is dropping is low delivery numbers, tariffs, and sentiment. These reasons are BS because the 1st Quarter is a low period for the whole auto sector. Additionally, Tesla shut down the manufacturing lines to upgrade their best selling vehicle. Tesla will be less effected by Tariffs because they manufacture their vehicles in the countries that they sell them. This year, Tesla will release Robotaxis and a much cheaper vehicle model. They are refreshing their Model S and X vehicles. They have the most powerful AI computing cluster on Earth right now and expanding it much faster than competitors. They are releasing their DOJO chip which is an AI chip that will compete with NVIDIA's. I really hope yall listen to me and buy this option instead of arguing with me. And any other brothers reading this post. Its like seeing a lotto ticket on the ground and watching folks step over it.

FYI- I purchased 5 of them at $59 today and plan to keep dollar cost averaging throughout the first half of this year.
You know. Whatever you've disagreed with me about, I appreciate the effort and the reasoning you put behind it. Anyway what quarter do you predict to see a good return on this?
 
You know. Whatever you've disagreed with me about, I appreciate the effort and the reasoning you put behind it. Anyway what quarter do you predict to see a good return on this?
Q3 this year. By then, Autonomous vehicles should be approved in at least one city. Vehicle Sales will be up in China and the US. The biggest catalyst during this time will be the increased Mega pack production.


If you get the option I suggested, I'd hold it for at least a year or a 100% gain. Which ever comes first.
 
Making money is about buying low and selling High. The time to buy is when the stock drops, not when it reaches all time highs.

I've disagreed with you both in the past about politics, but if you want to make money......Get a TSLA option. The one I recommend right now is the TSLA June 17, 2027 $450 CALL Option. You can get one for $62.80 right now which is a ridiculously good price.The cost of this option would be $6,280. If you have the money, I highly suggest buying as many of these as you can right now. I fully expect this option to more than triple in value. Tesla is one of the most volatile stocks out there and will be way over $500 by the end of this year. This option doesn't expire for over 2 years though. The reasons Tesla is dropping is low delivery numbers, tariffs, and sentiment. These reasons are BS because the 1st Quarter is a low period for the whole auto sector. Additionally, Tesla shut down the manufacturing lines to upgrade their best selling vehicle. Tesla will be less effected by Tariffs because they manufacture their vehicles in the countries that they sell them. This year, Tesla will release Robotaxis and a much cheaper vehicle model. They are refreshing their Model S and X vehicles. They have the most powerful AI computing cluster on Earth right now and expanding it much faster than competitors. They are releasing their DOJO chip which is an AI chip that will compete with NVIDIA's. I really hope yall listen to me and buy this option instead of arguing with me. And any other brothers reading this post. Its like seeing a lotto ticket on the ground and watching folks step over it.

FYI- I purchased 5 of them at $59 today and plan to keep dollar cost averaging throughout the first half of this year.
I appreciate the sincerety of this post but I'll pass, I'm good brotha. Not all money is good money, also I dont see this coming to pass. In fact, I would not at all be surprised if Musk had an international warrant for arrest (if he can successfully abscond to xhina or russia) on his head in the not too distant offing.
 
The glue holding the pickup truck’s stainless steel exterior in place is failing for many Tesla customers, causing its sides to protrude. It’s the latest of numerous instances of build quality issues with the Cybertruck, a once-promising vehicle now beset by problems.


In the the latest sign the Tesla Cybertruck risks becoming Elon Musk’s first full-blown flop, sales of the pickup have been halted amid growing cases of metal panelling falling off.

On Thursday, EV enthusiast site Electrek reported Tesla delivery agents as saying all outbound vehicles have been stopped amid concerns that the glue holding the exterior stainless steel panelling in place is failing.

The issue isn’t new but it has remained unaddressed. Owners living in cold weather conditions in particular have been warning about it for weeks, posting images of sharp-edged metal trim protruding from their vehicles and flapping in the wind while driving. Some have even taken to reporting the problem to the federal traffic safety authority NHTSA, Road & Track reported last month.

But an image circulated recently showing the entire front bumper dangling loosely from the body may have tipped the scale.

Tesla did not respond to Fortune‘s request for comment.

The Cybertruck has been dogged with issues ever since it came out, with multiple recalls to fix not just software but actual build problems, including an accelerator pedal that caused accidents when it stuck in place or plastic trim around the bed flying off.

But the first truly vivid display of the questionable quality came from Cody Detwiler, a YouTuber who goes by the name WhistlinDiesel. He first gave Tesla owners a glimpse of just how easy it was to damage the vehicle after putting the Cybertruck through the paces in a durability test that went viral.

Early adopters who have been buying Teslas over the past decade knows this risk comes with the territory when an all-new model first rolls out, especially one with such unique engineering.

Fortune interviewed one of these customers last year, who remained loyal to the brand and a fan of the truck throughout his otherwise hellish experience with the vehicle.

But concerns continue to grow. Just this week Tesla was criticized for ditching durable steel in favor of lighter aluminum for the truck’s casted frame. This subjects it to stress over time, raising the possibility of catastrophic failure when towing loads within specification.

This risks the truck not living up to the standards of the demanding Musk, who has called his factories the “hottest Tesla product” and elevated manufacturing to a brand differentiator.

“At this point I think I know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on earth,” the Tesla CEO told a TED Talk three years ago, when the truck was being engineered.

According to Cox Automotive, sales failed to top 39,000 last year despite having installed capacity to build over 125,000. Now Tesla’s offering low financing rates of 2% to move metal and buffing off the badges on Foundation Series vehicles that failed to find a buyer at launch.

While it is still outselling any other EV pickup truck, the Cybertruck can be considered a flop already given its lofty expectations. Shortly before the truck launched, Musk said demand was “so far off the hook you can’t even see the hook” and reservations were taken for almost 2 million trucks.

Despite its numerous problems, the Cybertruck could receive a sales boost in the coming weeks and months. For one, the $80,000 all-wheel drive version is expected to qualify for the $7,500 federal EV tax credit before it expires.
https://fortune.com/2025/03/14/elon...t-owners-complain-of-metal-sides-falling-off/
 
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As Tesla's shares continue their monthslong slump, even its executives and board members are starting to jump ship.

As ABC News reports, four top officers at the company offloaded over $100 million in shares since early last month — suggesting that even insiders see troubling days ahead for the Elon Musk-run company.

Since Trump's inauguration in early January, Tesla's shares have been getting hammered, the result of widespread market pessimism, an aging vehicle lineup — and perhaps mainly animosity aimed at Musk, who has been rampaging through the federal government with the help of his so-called Department of Government Efficiency.

The company's shares have plummeted over 40 percent since the beginning of the year, wiping out all gains Tesla had made since Trump was reelected in November.

Sales numbers have fallen off a cliff in key markets around the world. Tesla's performance is down in almost every single European market. Even sales in China, one of the company's most lucrative markets, are dropping.

Even Musk's brother Kimbal has seemingly had enough, unloading 75,000 shares worth around $27 million last month, according to a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

According to a separate document filed last week, longtime Musk ally James Murdoch sold around $13 million on the same day Tesla had its worst single-day decline since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic.

"Whenever insiders, including directors, are selling shares, it's not a positive signal," University of Florida finance professor Jay Ritter told ABC.

However, two sales by Tesla's board chairman Robyn Denholm, totaling more than $75 million, were planned months ago as part of a sales plan in a common practice, per Ritter.

And not everybody agrees that executives are getting cold feet. It could also be a sign that higher-ups are looking for a correction.

"While a sale doesn't necessarily mean an executive or board member feels negatively about a company's outlook, it could mean they think the stock is at a fair price or even overvalued," research firm Morningstar analyst Seth Goldstein told ABC.

Stilll, Musk's track record is dicey. Could Tesla suffer a similar fate as Twitter, which the mercurial CEO infamously acquired for $44 billion in 2022? Musk's erratic management and extremely polarizing behavior have erased an estimated 80 percent of its value in just a few years.

Without any enthusiasm from consumers and existing owners plastering anti-Musk stickers on their Teslas' bumpers, the EV maker's future is as uncertain as ever.

One thing's for sure: a lot is riding on the company's hail mary, in the form of a fleet of "Cybercab" robotaxis that it's promised to reveal this summer.

https://futurism.com/even-tesla-board-dumping-stock
 
As Tesla's shares continue their monthslong slump, even its executives and board members are starting to jump ship.

As ABC News reports, four top officers at the company offloaded over $100 million in shares since early last month — suggesting that even insiders see troubling days ahead for the Elon Musk-run company.

Since Trump's inauguration in early January, Tesla's shares have been getting hammered, the result of widespread market pessimism, an aging vehicle lineup — and perhaps mainly animosity aimed at Musk, who has been rampaging through the federal government with the help of his so-called Department of Government Efficiency.

The company's shares have plummeted over 40 percent since the beginning of the year, wiping out all gains Tesla had made since Trump was reelected in November.

Sales numbers have fallen off a cliff in key markets around the world. Tesla's performance is down in almost every single European market. Even sales in China, one of the company's most lucrative markets, are dropping.

Even Musk's brother Kimbal has seemingly had enough, unloading 75,000 shares worth around $27 million last month, according to a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

According to a separate document filed last week, longtime Musk ally James Murdoch sold around $13 million on the same day Tesla had its worst single-day decline since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic.

"Whenever insiders, including directors, are selling shares, it's not a positive signal," University of Florida finance professor Jay Ritter told ABC.

However, two sales by Tesla's board chairman Robyn Denholm, totaling more than $75 million, were planned months ago as part of a sales plan in a common practice, per Ritter.

And not everybody agrees that executives are getting cold feet. It could also be a sign that higher-ups are looking for a correction.

"While a sale doesn't necessarily mean an executive or board member feels negatively about a company's outlook, it could mean they think the stock is at a fair price or even overvalued," research firm Morningstar analyst Seth Goldstein told ABC.

Stilll, Musk's track record is dicey. Could Tesla suffer a similar fate as Twitter, which the mercurial CEO infamously acquired for $44 billion in 2022? Musk's erratic management and extremely polarizing behavior have erased an estimated 80 percent of its value in just a few years.

Without any enthusiasm from consumers and existing owners plastering anti-Musk stickers on their Teslas' bumpers, the EV maker's future is as uncertain as ever.

One thing's for sure: a lot is riding on the company's hail mary, in the form of a fleet of "Cybercab" robotaxis that it's promised to reveal this summer.

https://futurism.com/even-tesla-board-dumping-stock
LMAO @ Spidercoon going down with the ship.

Tesla could go down to $1 a share and that due would be yelling buy buy! I trust Elon!
 
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I appreciate the sincerety of this post but I'll pass, I'm good brotha. Not all money is good money, also I dont see this coming to pass. In fact, I would not at all be surprised if Musk had an international warrant for arrest (if he can successfully abscond to xhina or russia) on his head in the not too distant offing.
Unfortunately we got Trump because too many people (including black folk) were too busy worrying more about money than their rights and freedoms.
 


Tesla has lost so much value in such a short period of time that JPMorgan analysts said they couldn't think of another comparable moment in automotive history.

"We struggle to think of anything analogous in the history of the automotive industry, in which a brand has lost so much value so quickly," they wrote, adding that the closest example was when Japanese and Korean car brands lost sales amid "diplomatic disputes" with China in 2012 and 2017, respectively.

The JPMorgan analysts wrote in a note on Wednesday that those historical cases were "confined to a single market, whereas the decline in Tesla sales in 2025 is not specific to any one nation or geography."

JPMorgan analysts cut their price target on Tesla by about 41% from $230.58 to $135, lowering guidance on vehicle deliveries for the first quarter of 2025 to about 355,000 — an 8% year-over-year decrease from the first quarter of 2024.

From December to Wednesday after trading hours, Tesla lost nearly 49% of its market cap, seeing its peak value of $1.54 trillion from the end of last year fall to about $777 billion.

This steep drop has come as Tesla experiences a global decline in sales and branding issues stemming from its chief executive's politics.

For a moment, Elon Musk's big bet on Donald Trump seemed to pay off. Tesla was the only EV company to see its stock surge after the president's electoral victory in November. The underlying assumption appeared to be that Musk's company could benefit if the Tesla CEO had the ear of the new administration and guided the White House's efforts to slash government spending.

Now, that assumption is being challenged in some analysts' latest guidance, which notes a possible headwind in demand because of Musk's work with the Trump administration.

"Mr. Musk's work with the Department of Government Efficiency has proven controversial domestically, and while as many members of the political right may be pleased as those on the left are displeased, the effect on Tesla sales seems nevertheless negative," JPMorgan analysts wrote.

In recent weeks, Tesla showrooms across the US have seen protests and a string of vandalism incidents. Trump has rushed to Tesla's defense and said he'd consider labeling the perpetrators domestic terrorists.

Outside brand reputation, some analysts are also concerned that Musk's focus on political affairs is again distracting the CEO from his core businesses.

"After all, the simultaneous decline in both Tesla pricing and unit volume expectations did coincide with his takeover of X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter," JPMorgan analysts pointed out.

Morgan Stanley analysts wrote in a note on Monday that Tesla shares had fallen because of "sales data, negative brand sentiment, and market de-grossing" but that they still saw a buying opportunity for the company.

"Today, with the stock down 50%, our investor conversations are focused on management distraction, brand degradation, and lost auto sales," analysts said.

A spokesperson for Tesla didn't respond to a request for comment.

Despite the company's losses, Tesla remains the most valuable car company in the world.

Second to Tesla is the legacy automaker Toyota, which has a $292 billion market cap.

Morgan Stanley analysts noted several "catalysts" in the company's pipeline, including Tesla's robotaxi, expected to hit Austin roads later this summer, and another demonstration of Optimus, the humanoid robot anticipated before the end of the year.

But expectations for Tesla's delivery timelines may have to be tempered, given that the CEO has a history of missing his own deadlines.
 
Unfortunately we got Trump because too many people (including black folk) were too busy worrying more about money than their rights and freedoms.
Please don’t attribute this to black people; instead, place it where it truly belongs on the shoulders of CACs, Latinas and Latinos.
 
Please don’t attribute this to black people; instead, place it where it truly belongs on the shoulders of CACs, Latinas and Latinos.
I place it on all (which includes black people) who prize money over everything else. Those who understand all money ain't good money as the poster stated.
 
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Unfortunately we got Trump because too many people (including black folk) were too busy worrying more about money than their rights and freedoms.
If they were worried about their money, they would not have put trump in office. Fools listening to fools just because they have a little money with no regard to how those folks they are following actually came to have that money in the first place.
 
As Elon Musk continues to take an outsized and controversial role in the US government, reports of harassment of Tesla owners and vandalism of showrooms and vehicles are on rise. That may, in part, be contributing to plunging resale values and interest in used Teslas in the United States.

Though Tesla has enjoyed the attention of President Donald Trump, its stock price has erased all of its gains since Election Day. It reported its first-ever drop in global sales last year, and it faces stiff competition in China and slumping sales in Europe. In the United States, Musk, Tesla’s CEO, has faced blowback for his cost-cutting actions in the federal government.

Despite the record low prices for a Tesla on the used market and a prominent advertisement by the president of the United States, the cars have been having a tough time finding buyers, according to a March survey from Cars.com.

Searches for used Teslas decreased 16% over the past month, while demand for used non-Tesla electric vehicles has increased 28% over the past year.

And it’s not just internet searches. CarGurus, a car-buying site, found that used Tesla prices are falling at more than double the rate of the average used car price. The Cybertruck, the controversial steel-sided pickup, fared the worst of any Tesla vehicle, with a resale value 58% less than its original price, according to CarGurus.

Tesla owners who want to sell are also having a hard time finding buyers, much less ones that will buy for a decent price. Some Tesla owners say they have buyers’ remorse amid reports of vandalism and protests against Musk, as well as their personal feelings toward the CEO.

“I would sell it in a heartbeat if somebody offered me a decent price, but the chances of that happening probably not the case,” Pam Perkins, who’s from Northern California, told CNN this month.

Jennifer Trebb, from Ohio, traded in her Tesla Model Y a few weeks ago and took an $18,000 to $20,000 financial hit.

“It did lose a vast amount of value in the short two years that I had it. It only had 10,000 miles on it,” she said. But Musk’s role in the government “doesn’t fall in line with my morals, my beliefs, and every time I looked at the car, that’s what I thought of.”

Lose some, win some

It’s too soon to tell whether the politics of Musk, its CEO, have impacted new Tesla sales in the US, and there’s a lot of compounding reasons why customers could be turning away from even used, cheaper Teslas.

Outside of anecdotes, there hasn’t been a definite connection made between the string of attacks against Tesla vehicles and facilities and any potential loss of sales. The company was booted from a Vancouver auto show over safety concerns.

The S&P Global Index broke down sales data based on “red states” where Republicans won four straight presidential elections and “blue states” where Democrats did. It showed Tesla loyalty was waning in blue states – there, the percentage of repeat Tesla buyers fell from 72% in the last quarter of 2023 to 65% the next year. Repeat Tesla buyers in red states increased slightly, from 47.6% at the end of 2023 to 48.2% at the end of 2024.

Trump, Musk’s biggest political ally, and his administration seem to be taking it on themselves to protect the brand’s reputation.

Trump this month hosted a de-facto advertisement for Tesla on the White House South Lawn, where he said he would purchase a Tesla at full price. Attorney General Pam Bondi said the attacks on Tesla are “nothing short of domestic terrorism,” and White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said Wednesday that the “Democrats were big supporters of Tesla and of electric vehicles until Elon Musk decided to vote for Donald Trump.”

It may be easy to look at public outrage and say the brand is weakening, Ike Silver, assistant professor of marketing at University of Southern California told CNN, but the reality is more complicated: As it’s losing followers in one demographic, it could pick up fans in another.

“The noise, the protests, make it seem as if the brand is sort of dropping, but the brand is strengthening among a different target audience, which is people on the right,” Silver said. “The question is will the number of new customers being brought in on the right outweigh the number of angry customers who are leaving on the left.”

Prices don’t tell a simple story

Demand for used Teslas has been falling since last summer after peak interest hit the brand in May 2024, because of more inventory and Cybertrucks hit the used market, David Greene, Cars.com analyst told CNN.

One major reason the Tesla hype has faded isn’t because of politics at all, but rather because of more competition. Cars.com counted 76 used EV models on the market in February, compared to 58 the year prior.

“Tesla has to compete with all of those cars in a marketplace that they basically helped to define,” Brian Moody, executive editor of car marketplace Autotrader, told CNN.

The used car market follows the new market, where Tesla has also initiated price cuts to better compete. If a car dealer is “sitting on your lot of used EVs, you can’t sell it at the same high price you could have last week when you know all the brands just cut their prices on the new cars.” Greene said.

Greene also said about 70% of new EVs were leased, which could mean a bunch of used Teslas are hitting the market around the same time.

And as far as price goes, electric vehicles tend to depreciate in value 11% more rapidly than a gasoline-powered car, Moody said. That’s because customers tend to think of EVs more as technology than simple transportation, and they’re more worried about battery health and whether they’ll miss out on the latest updates.

“There’s a lot of things happening at once (for Tesla) that it’s difficult to point to any one cause,” Moody said.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/20/business/even-used-teslas-are-falling-out-of-favor
 
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