Everyone knows him because of Brady. What's his head coaching record minus Brady? UNC just went from one grandpa to another. I think this will end worse than Mack Brown
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College Football: Bill Belichick has agreed to become the next HC at the University of North Carolina
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Everyone knows him because of Brady. What's his head coaching record minus Brady? UNC just went from one grandpa to another. I think this will end worse than Mack Brown
He didn't have talent without Brady.
Let's not act like Brady was winning those early Super Bowls. He was a fucking game manager.
How could this end worse than Mack quitting in the middle of the season and then changing his mind.
1st off hes not close to the best coach of all time. at best hes 5 but until he wins more games than he loses without Brady hes not in the same category as Lombardi,Walsh,Noll,Shula,Landry. 2nd its not the coach that gets you to the NFL its the team. Alabama plays almost every game on national tv, this year NC maybe 3. Everyone knows he is a great defensive coach and historian but those who know know what the deal is with offensive players and Bill. the pipeline to the NFL will not change to NC cause Bill is there winning 9 games
People really try to hate on his legacy like he wasn't the D-Coordinator for the Giants for multiple Super Bowls, like he doesn't have 2 more super Bowl wins then the next best coach, like he didn't win the first couple of Super Bowls when Brady was simply asked not to turn the ball over...He is THE BEST COACH in NFL history and it's not really close...if he wants to fuck young bitches and try his hand in the college game, go for it !! The man is 72 years old and his legacy is cemented, it's all gravy from this point forward...
Man, the "no homo" qualifier isn't needed.
What did those coaches win without hall of famer players
Chuck Noll won without the steel curtain? Walsh won without Montana and Steve Young?
The coach and his staff are what get you to the NFL, that's why Nick Saban was getting top recruits. Kids want to come.
and North Carolina won't get more national TV games like Colorado? What are you talking about? Games can be added.
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Nah bro. It's a different landscape with NIL. This is semi-pro now. You saw how quickly Deion turned around Colorado. Why he made it hot and all the recruits want to be where it's hot. That's where they get the attention that's where they get the NIL money. These kids are playing 2 years at most of these programs then going pro or transferring. He's going to bring in top recruits because every Saturday it's going to be hate it or love it just like Colorado. Their ratings are going to soar and therefore their transfer portal is going to be stacked.
If it works out for Bill he could OWN part of the UNC program. There are people making offers now for percentages of these programs.
Worse case scenario for UNC is they lose a bunch of games but make shitload of merch, TV, and game money.
Interesting....
I actually like Bill when he's not coaching and on TV. Dude is actually pretty funny and has a TON of cool football stories.
Never thought he'd take a college job.
I mean, his girlfriend just got out of college, so I guess he feels he can relate.
Same here. Dude was great on TV....Breaking down coverages and etc....
Yeah those stories were dope too....
I think he taking this job to set his son up....Isn't that apart of the deal? I think the deal is only for 3 years....
This is my thinking too....
UNC hopes for 'Sanders effect' with Belichick hire
Domonique Foxworth joins the Dan Patrick Show to explain that Bill Belichick was hired by North Carolina in hopes of revitalizing the program like Deion Sanders did at Colorado.
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You bring up a good point. I follow MLB Raleigh and maybe, just maybe those corporate dollars will help Tom Dondon and his group show that a team could exisit in Raleigh......We already know the tech money in the area is already there
Yall do realize this man a living legend in coaching right ..?
i swear u can tell by comments who dont really know football or just hate ...lol
just super bowls the man been to 12 ...and won 8 ... let me say it again 8
10 with the Pats and 2 with the Giants ...won 6 with the pats and 2 with the giants ...
some franchises never even been to one ...man i`m out ...
i swear u can tell by comments who dont really know football or just hate ...lol
just super bowls the man been to 12 ...and won 8 ... let me say it again 8
10 with the Pats and 2 with the Giants ...won 6 with the pats and 2 with the giants ...
some franchises never even been to one ...man i`m out ...
hey man life short ....let that man live ....
if i was him tho i think i would have just retired n enjoyed tht yung pussy as long as i could ...
he genuinely seemed happy n like he was enjoying himself finally ..
that coaching shit at that level is some long draining ass hours ... dunno ...but he luvs it ...
if i was him tho i think i would have just retired n enjoyed tht yung pussy as long as i could ...
he genuinely seemed happy n like he was enjoying himself finally ..
that coaching shit at that level is some long draining ass hours ... dunno ...but he luvs it ...
Yeah not a bad move for him financially, but I don’t see it working out.
I predict they get a good QB recruit who transfers out after 1-2 seasons. The game has changed, talented players aren’t stuck riding the bench anymore. These coaches have to retain players and attract transfers now. Belicheck is going to be really frustrated at how difficult it will be to implement his systems with so much player turnover. I give him 3 seasons though.
I think this is going to be okay
If he can get to 10 wins?
Success.
ACC title?
Woo boy.
If he can get to 10 wins?
Success.
ACC title?
Woo boy.
For UNC, hiring Bill Belichick was a risk it couldn’t afford not to take
By Brendan Marks
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CHAPEL HILL, N.C. — Call it a risk. A gamble. An out-of-left-field experiment.
But really, North Carolina’s shocking decision to hire 72-year-old Bill Belichick as its new head football coach — a program with one 10-win season in the last quarter century hiring someone who has never coached a down in college — boils down to one baby-blue truth:
UNC saw the writing on the wall in college athletics’ modern era, where football is the driving financial force for everything else, and ascertained that it no longer can afford not to be good on the gridiron. So, to rectify that decades-long reality?
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Chips to the center of the table. The Tar Heels, for the first time in their football existence, are all in.
“We’re going to have an excellent college football program,” chancellor Lee Roberts said during Belichick’s introductory news conference on Thursday. “We want to compete with the best, and we’ve hired the best coach.”
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Breaking down Bill Belichick's contract with UNC: Why it is unlike others in college
Much of what has been written and said about UNC hiring Belichick — a once unimaginable pipe dream reserved for the deepest crevices of message boards — has centered on Belichick’s side of things, and not wrongly so. Why would the man who led the New England Patriots to six Super Bowl titles suddenly want to coach in college? Wouldn’t he at least want to see if he could earn another NFL gig, especially sitting 15 wins shy of Don Shula’s all-time record? And even if not: Why North Carolina, which hasn’t won a conference championship since 1980?
All valid questions, albeit with complex answers. Has Belichick really, as he said Thursday, always “dreamed” of coaching in college, and his NFL career simply got in the way? That sounds unlikely, even under the most generous interpretation, but considering his father’s five-decade college coaching career, it isn’t impossible. Ties to his father also explain why, if Belichick was ever going to go back to school, it would probably be at UNC; Steve Belichick spent three seasons under the pines in Chapel Hill, which coincides with “little Billy’s” supposed first words: Beat Duke. (Got that, Hallmark script writers?)
And as for why not chase an NFL gig? The answer lies somewhere on the spectrum of Belichick being disenchanted by last year’s NFL hiring cycle — when only one of seven franchises with an opening, the Atlanta Falcons, chose to interview him — and him being uncertain whether he’d have better luck this time around.
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That all mostly makes sense. But what about UNC’s side? Why this, why now, for the Tar Heels? And what does the program’s sudden investment spike in football actually mean?
To understand, follow the money.
Until November, UNC employed Mack Brown, a Hall of Famer and one of only three active national championship-winning head coaches. And while he was on something of a sweetheart contract — only $5 million per year, on the lower end for power conference coaches — that isn’t representative of UNC’s increased football expenditures since he returned to the program in 2018. In fact, over that time frame — per UNC’s own internal financial reports — the university has spent $63.9 million on football projects. That includes a $40.2 million indoor practice facility; $14.5 million for the first round of Kenan Memorial Stadium renovations; $3 million for new locker and weight rooms; $2.5 million for updated stadium turf; and plenty of other smaller upgrades.
Per those same internal records, UNC’s total football expenses have grown by 104 percent from the 2017-18 fiscal year to the 2023-24 fiscal year — in large part because of skyrocketing staff expenditures. During Brown’s tenure, UNC more than doubled what it spent for both assistant coach and support staffer salaries, while also growing from 31 to 44 total staff members.
Encouraging numbers, right? Ones that prove UNC already is sinking more dollars into football than at any previous point in its history. (Which, at a basketball school, is saying something.) But the dark side of the moon is, well, dark. What has North Carolina’s ROI been? Over the same seven years in which football expenses rose by 104 percent — or roughly $22.6 million on a per-year basis — UNC’s football revenue rose 54 percent.
So, barely half.
And the university’s on-field return on investment hasn’t been much, if any, better. Brown’s first team in 2018 went 7-6, and his final team is 6-6, with its bowl game still to go. He went 44-33 in his second stint in Chapel Hill, despite starting NFL quarterbacks in five of his six seasons. So what, exactly, did all those resources at Brown’s disposal add up to?
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Look no further than the larger landscape as to why UNC AD Bubba Cunningham made a change. Deion Sanders and Colorado were in contention in the Big 12. SMU, in its first season in the ACC and its first in a power conference in decades, made the College Football Playoff. So did Indiana, in Curt Cignetti’s debut campaign. If schools like that can make the expanded 12-team CFP — if Boise State, with a generational running back, can earn a first-round bye — then why can’t North Carolina, one of the biggest brands in all of college athletics?
“Why is the University of North Carolina in a JV tier? We should not be JV in anything we do, ever, and we’re so excellent in every other way,” said UNC Board of Trustees member Jennifer Lloyd. “The fact that we were accepting a relegated place in football was absolutely awful for most of us.”
Mr. Belichick, enter stage right.
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Now, landing a coach who many consider among the best football coaches of all time was never going to come cheap. Just imagine Cunningham and Roberts trying to make that pitch. “Yes, Bill? We know about the Super Bowls and coaching the best NFL player of all time — but how’s about taking a little discount for us?” As if. So right off the bat, UNC agreed to pay Belichick double what it did Brown: $10 million per year, with generous incentives he can earn for every ceiling he helps UNC smash through. That alone is unheard of in Chapel Hill, and anywhere in the ACC this side of Clemson and Florida State. It’s a top-10 salary in the nation, even if it’s not the estimated $20 million-plus he was earning with the Patriots.
But wait, there’s more! The rest of Belichick’s contract, which was formally approved Thursday, outlines other unprecedented financial commitments by the Tar Heels: to Belichick’s staff, to a new scouting department, and perhaps most importantly, to paying the players he’ll need to lift UNC to a new echelon of college football. UNC will provide Belichick a $10 million pool for assistant coaches, double what it spent this season. When was the last time anyone talked about anything in college football and North Carolina was in the same realm as Georgia and Ohio State?
There’s $5.3 million for Belichick’s support staff, which includes the new general manager position that former NFL GM Michael Lombardi will fill. There’s $1 million for a strength & conditioning staff. And lastly, perhaps most importantly, $13 million in revenue sharing as part of the soon-to-be-implemented House settlement, which will see universities pay players directly. Again, that $13 million lines up with what most “serious” college football programs are expected to spend, among the roughly $20 million schools total that schools are allowed to pay out.
“All the things that I feel are important to having a successful program, Bubba and Chancellor Roberts reaffirmed,” Belichick said. “They made a great commitment to this program.”
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For an athletic department that has traditionally done more with less — one that has largely relied on the strength of its brand, its history of across-the-board excellence and its famous laundry — that all represents a dramatic departure from the UNC of old.
“Football is the economic driver of college sports,” Cunningham said. “We need to be really good in football to continue to remain relevant on a national basis. We’re there in basketball. We’re there in a lot of our Olympic sports. But we need to make sure that our football program is elite, and I think this demonstrates our commitment to it. Now the performance is going to demonstrate whether or not we can do it.”
And that’s the answer to the “why now” portion of the question. UNC — Roberts, Cunningham, the board, the high-profile boosters who pull strings in the shadows — all believed that Belichick the coach was the person who could make good on those never-before-seen investments. They aren’t just betting on Belichick’s talents translating to the college game; they’re betting that he will deliver the ROI that Brown did not. That, frankly, no other prospective candidate could, they believed.
“We’re taking a risk,” Cunningham added. “We’re investing more in football, with the hope and ambition that the return is going to significantly outweigh the investment. So tickets, television, sponsorships are our primary sources of revenue — and then the other thing we rely on heavily here is philanthropy. So all four of those are going to be critical to our long-term success.”
Put that through the common-man translator, and what do you get?
Ticket prices, probably going up. TV times and networks for UNC’s games, probably going to be much more premium. The cost of corporate sponsorships, probably require an extra zero on the end. And philanthropy, probably, like a wave that washes over UNC’s stadium.
The price of the brick went up, across the board.
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Now UNC has to win games to both afford and warrant that.
One potential outcome: Belichick wins, UNC makes back all the money (and some, ideally) that it spent on staff and facilities, and over time — be it three seasons, which Belichick’s contract is guaranteed for, or possibly longer — North Carolina nudges its way into the conversation with Alabama, Georgia, Oregon and the like. And along the way, it uses its football surplus to reinvest in its many Olympic sports, like its national championship-winning women’s soccer and field hockey and golf programs. Football eats, everybody eats.
“Our hope is that a greater investment in the (programs) that return money or value to the university,” Cunningham said, “will allow us to continue to offer the broad-based programming and enhance those experiences.”
And then there’s the other side. The one where Belichick doesn’t win at the level UNC thinks he can, and again, the ROI isn’t there — only this time, it’s not a shallower profit; perhaps it’s a loss. Perhaps a steep enough one that suddenly, not only is there not a surplus for UNC’s Olympic sports, but maybe there’s not enough funding at all.
Maybe, in the wake of the still-to-be-finalized House settlement and revenue sharing, UNC — one of only three schools to ever win the Director’s Cup — even has to cut some of those storied programs altogether. Gulp.
So, yes. Hiring Belichick is a risk. A gamble, for more reasons than just winning football games. Investing in Belichick is really UNC investing in its own future, and trying to create a better tomorrow — one which, given its current reality, does not necessarily exist.
It is unlike anything the university has ever done before. “The most visible thing we’ve done in a long time,” Cunningham added.
By hiring Belichick, UNC has pushed all its chips to the center of the table. And for better or worse, the Tar Heels’ overall athletics future is now tied to whether he’s successful.
Who is signing up to be coached by him in 2025? He is super old school, kills individuality and is a hard azz. He has 6 rings, but just cuz you are dating a 20 year old does not mean you still know how to coach 20 year olds.
Yeah it's not like Belichick won when Brady got hurt even though the team won more games the season that Matt Cassell was the starter than they won the next season with Brady at QB. Their success is intertwined.
And yes the coach matters Jalen Hurts wasn't primed for the NFL at Alabama like he was at Oklahoma. Georgia has consistently put guys in the NFL but they're putting a lot more people in the league now with Kirby Smart than they were with Jim Donnan or even Mark Richt at the helm. And North Carolina may not be Ohio St or LSU but the program has sent its fair share of guys to the pros
His three children better pray he doesn’t marry her because they’re about to face the Gene Hackman treatment.
I also wonder if he was going to get Shannon Sharp by her, and that’s why he went public with the relationship a few months ago.
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