TV Discussion: Superman & Lois (CW & HBO MAX) CANCELED! ARROWVERSE IS DONE!

This final season, despite it's cast and budget restraints, has been pretty good. My only problem is the villain that they chose for their last hurrah. I get that Lex Luthor is Superman's ultimate foe, but we live in the era of "The Boys" and at the end of the day it's Superman versus a guy with no powers(I don't even think he's a genius in this series). Everytime Lex terrorizes the Kent family, which now has 3 people with superpowers and 2 with supersuits, I can't help but think what would Homelander do? Why are they putting up with Lex's shit when they could just fly this asshole into the stratosphere and be done with him in mere seconds? There are just too many Kent's with laser eyes for Lex Luthor to still have all of his limbs, this shit is just dumb.
 
Apparently they bringing Brainiac(the Milton Fine version) into this...nice seeing Ed Cavanagh appear too

also Raw Yvonne Chapman

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Series Finale debuts December 2, 2024.

I plan on being home on Christmas, I will binge it then and give my review on it.

Looking forward to it.
 
Good finale,even though it was kind of rushed..

Was expecting them to throw in a flurry of references to other DC characters in the final moments,say Clark and Lois were watching the news ,or if Jon and Jordan are,and one of them says"..you see that? Some crazy guy in Gotham City is dressing like a bat and beating up criminals" as well as reports of "a UFO crashing near the area where test pilot Hal Jordan broke the sound barrier with a new experimental plane" and a assassination attempt on the President was prevented by"a woman wielding a gold lasso"...

Then this shot here.. :clap:
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This final season, despite it's cast and budget restraints, has been pretty good. My only problem is the villain that they chose for their last hurrah. I get that Lex Luthor is Superman's ultimate foe, but we live in the era of "The Boys" and at the end of the day it's Superman versus a guy with no powers(I don't even think he's a genius in this series). Everytime Lex terrorizes the Kent family, which now has 3 people with superpowers and 2 with supersuits, I can't help but think what would Homelander do? Why are they putting up with Lex's shit when they could just fly this asshole into the stratosphere and be done with him in mere seconds? There are just too many Kent's with laser eyes for Lex Luthor to still have all of his limbs, this shit is just dumb.
And this is part of the problem with "modern" interpretations of superheroes in movies and streaming series.
Folks inevitably want Superman to step away from his moral compass and behave like they would if they had his power.
But please understand:
- Superman IS NOT Homelander.

Homelander is a villain and a narcissistic sociopath.
Superman is a hero and a compassionate, selfless advocate for truth & justice.

May I recommend you read this amazing story which perfectly illustrates WHY characters like Superman are so special and important to what it
means to be a hero.
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Good finale,even though it was kind of rushed..

Was expecting them to throw in a flurry of references to other DC characters in the final moments,say Clark and Lois were watching the news ,or if Jon and Jordan are,and one of them says"..you see that? Some crazy guy in Gotham City is dressing like a bat and beating up criminals" as well as reports of "a UFO crashing near the area where test pilot Hal Jordan broke the sound barrier with a new experimental plane" and a assassination attempt on the President was prevented by"a woman wielding a gold lasso"...

Then this shot here.. :clap:
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The CW’s DC Era Ends With ‘Superman & Lois’ Finale: Numbers Behind the Enduring Franchise​

After a dozen years and more than 800 episodes, the network airs its last comic book-based show.

By Rick Porter
December 3, 2024 3:34pm
Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch in Superman & Lois series finale

Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch in the 'Superman & Lois' series finale. Colin Bentley/The CW
[This story contains spoilers for the series finale of Superman & Lois.]
The series finale of Superman & Lois aired Monday night on The CW. It marked not just the end of the show’s four-season run, but also an entire programming philosophy at the network.
Superman & Lois was the last series based on DC Comics characters to air at the network. It was also the last connection to The CW’s Arrowverse (even if it wasn’t technically part of the main continuity of that franchise), which defined the 2010s for the network and became one of the more successful multi-show franchises in TV history.



The ending of Superman & Lois, which — spoiler alert — flashes forward several decades to show the end of its title characters’ (Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch) lives, precludes any continuation of the show elsewhere — as do new regimes at both The CW and DC parent Warner Bros. Discovery, which both have very different approaches than they did during the Arrowverse’s heyday in the mid- and late 2010s.
The CW, as THR has covered extensively, is mostly out of the homegrown scripted business: All American — which like nearly all of The CW’s DC shows comes from Greg Berlanti’s Warner Bros. TV-based company — is now the only scripted series left from the network’s pre-Nexstar days. Most of the network’s schedule is now given over to unscripted and sports programming, and what scripted shows The CW does air are co-productions on series based outside the United States, with budgets that are a fraction of even the relatively inexpensive ones of the past.
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DC — officially, DC Studios — meanwhile, is taking its TV projects to WBD siblings HBO and Max, with bigger budgets, shorter seasons and very different tones than the CW franchise: The Penguin was essentially a mob story, and the upcoming Lanterns is said to have a True Detective-like vibe, while Peacemaker (which predates the DC Studios reorganization but is folded into the main timeline) is very much its own, TV-MA (and then some) thing.
With Marvel also siloing all its TV properties on Disney+, it’s not a stretch at all to say that there won’t be another sprawling comic-book franchise on network TV again. The CW’s DC era left a huge imprint on the network; here are some of the numbers behind the shows.


10: The number of series based on DC characters that aired on The CW, beginning with Arrow in October 2012. All of them came from Warner Bros. TV and what was then called DC Entertainment, and nine — Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow, Black Lightning, Batwoman, Stargirl, Superman & Lois and Gotham Knights — were executive produced by Berlanti via his Berlanti Productions. The 10th is 2022’s Naomi, co-created by Ava DuVernay and Jill Blankenship and produced by DuVernay’s Array Filmworks along with DC and WB.
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46: The combined number seasons of all 10 series. The Flash (nine seasons) and Arrow (eight) had the longest runs.
817, 797: The combined episode total from all 10 shows, and those that ran on The CW; Supergirl‘s first season, which spanned 20 episodes, aired on CBS. The 817 episodes top all but three multishow franchises since 1990 — only Law & Order (1,363 episodes as of publication time), JAG/NCIS (1,249) and CSI (838) have more. NBC’s Chicago franchise will need to air 131 more episodes — about six 22-episode seasons’ worth of shows — to pass the DC total.
699: Number of episodes among the six core Arrowverse series (Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow, Black Lightning and Batwoman). Hoechlin and Tulloch appeared in several episodes of those series as Clark Kent/Superman and Lois Lane during crossovers (more on that below), but Superman & Lois was set in a different part of the DC multiverse.
6: Multi-series crossover events, the biggest of which was based on DC’s seminal “Crisis on Infinite Earths” comic series and spanned five shows. The ambitious event, which aired in December 2019 and January 2020, resulted in season-high viewership for Arrow, The Flash, Legends and Supergirl and the second-largest audience for Batwoman, behind only its series premiere. Several other crossovers were confined to a single show, including two in the latter seasons of The Flash when characters from ended series reappeared to help Barry Allen (Grant Gustin).


12, 53: Years and days that The CW had a DC series on its roster, dating from the premiere of Arrow on Oct. 10, 2012, to the ending of Superman & Lois on Dec. 2.
 

 
Season 4
10 Episodes
Final Season

I watched the final season today at home.

It immediately picked up following the events of Season 3 Finale.

We discover that Clark was a virgin when he first hooked up with Lois. And that he first Fucked her in his childhood bedroom. I don’t recall that ever being brought up in the comics. The season went into Clark revealing to Lois his secret identity, proposing to her and revealing his secret to Gen. Lane and the conflict it brought up.

Jonathan’s powers finally kicked in when he was under stress losing his father.

Michael Cudlitz did a decent job on his interpretation of Lex Luthor. He portrayed the character completely different from prior live action performances of the character. We got some backstory of him prior to going to prison.

We got some flashback scenes of “Bizarro Lois”. Sarah got a job as a waitress.

Elizabeth Henstridge (Jemma f/ Agents of SHIELD) cameo as Lex’s daughter. Tom Cavanaugh (Harrison f/ The Flash series) cameo as a popular TV tabloid host.

The season went in-depth on Clark revealing him revealing his identity to the world. Got a reboot of the classic diner scene from “Superman II”. Got to see Luthor in an armored suit like in the comics.

Krypto was introduced, but not from Krypton.

The series last 15 minutes did a good job closing out the characters and their storylines.

Overall, CW did a decent job with this series, it started off slow and corny but picked up in season 3 to the end.

I will give it a 8/10.
 
‘Superman & Lois’ Series Finale Breaks Records, Ending on a High Note!

Though set in a different reality from the Arrowverse, ‘Superman & Lois’ stood out as the best CW superhero show with its strong writing. The series had its ups and downs, especially in the previous year.

ByValentina Kraljik
December 6, 2024


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‘Superman & Lois’ Series Finale Breaks Records, Ending on a High Note!

Though set in a different reality from the Arrowverse, ‘Superman & Lois’ stood out as the best CW superhero show with its strong writing. The series had its ups and downs, especially in the previous year.

ByValentina Kraljik
December 6, 2024


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Good.
 
And this is part of the problem with "modern" interpretations of superheroes in movies and streaming series.
Folks inevitably want Superman to step away from his moral compass and behave like they would if they had his power.
But please understand:
- Superman IS NOT Homelander.

Homelander is a villain and a narcissistic sociopath.
Superman is a hero and a compassionate, selfless advocate for truth & justice.

May I recommend you read this amazing story which perfectly illustrates WHY characters like Superman are so special and important to what it
means to be a hero.
vxBM8eHT4RYgwMhxrVtq9F.jpg


Maybe he doesnt read comics. I suggest watching superman vs the elite instead then he'll understand.
 
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