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Biden has so far deported more Haitians in a few weeks than the Trump did in a whole year

gene cisco said:
No one is saying that. Fuck Trump. It's just funny how deporting ANYONE was a 'sky is falling' issue with Trump. :eek: "Facism!!" Xenophibia. Racism. Remember that? Now, it's back to being a process. If the mean man did half this shit, twitter would melt. Trump was all hype, no substance. Biden about that action. Silent, but effective.

I just find it funny with American politics it matters WHO does or says what as opposed to what is actually done or said.
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its accountability for your choices... your vote means you back a candidate and to talk about that candidate as if they were the enemy makes no sense. You can disagree and hate a decision made or action taken while still backing that candidate. I STILL have to own and be accountable for my choice. Hey, Obama did a lot of things I didn't like or frowned on but I'd still vote for him over the republican candidate 9.99 times out of 10.

There's a reason why Hillary didn't get the nomination in 08.

This is why the peanut gallery crew here are such bullshitters.. They DON'T make a choice because they don't want to held ACCOUNTABLE for it.

I put a poll up about tangibles and the choices between the dem and reps plans and I made the voting visible and THEY REFUSED TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CHOICE ON A PORN MESSAGEBOARD POLL! :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
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Thats how afraid they are to be held accountable to their choice. Yet they all pontificate as if they have all the answers and everyone else is just stupid.

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They're happy tragedies like Afghanistan and Haiti happen so that they can laff, gloat and make snide comments while STILL NOT offering alternatives....nor solutions...all they have is bitching, moaning and finger pointing and its easy to do that WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE A CHOICE.

Thats also why they never admit who they voted for or they talk about NOT voting partially or at all cuz in their minds theyre blameless in the shit if they don't participate BUT they want to hold everyone else accountable.

If a viable alternative is offered then bidens days are numbered its that simple. Otherwise you work with the choice you made and try to get done what you can get done. Thats just how politics works:dunno:
 
geechiedan said:
its accountability for your choices... your vote means you back a candidate and to talk about that candidate as if they were the enemy makes no sense. You can disagree and hate a decision made or action taken while still backing that candidate. I STILL have to own and be accountable for my choice. Hey, Obama did a lot of things I didn't like or frowned on but I'd still vote for him over the republican candidate 9.99 times out of 10.

There's a reason why Hillary didn't get the nomination in 08.

This is why the peanut gallery crew here are such bullshitters.. They DON'T make a choice because they don't want to held ACCOUNTABLE for it.

I put a poll up about tangibles and the choices between the dem and reps plans and I made the voting visible and THEY REFUSED TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CHOICE ON A PORN MESSAGEBOARD POLL! :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
hack-khaby.gif


Thats how afraid they are to be held accountable to their choice. Yet they all pontificate as if they have all the answers and everyone else is just stupid.

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They're happy tragedies like Afghanistan and Haiti happen so that they can laff, gloat and make snide comments while STILL NOT offering alternatives....nor solutions...all they have is bitching, moaning and finger pointing and its easy to do that WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE A CHOICE.

Thats also why they never admit who they voted for or they talk about NOT voting partially or at all cuz in their minds theyre blameless in the shit if they don't participate BUT they want to hold everyone else accountable.

If a viable alternative is offered then bidens days are numbered its that simple. Otherwise you work with the choice you made and try to get done what you can get done. Thats just how politics works:dunno:
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It's not about accountability. There is no viable alternative because the system is bullshit. Do you don't just throw up ya hands and say well I'll just vote democrat because they're better than the other side. There is no better. What's the alternative to capitalism in this country? In other countries you have communist and capitalist politicians that are capable of winning a truly democratic election. In this country you have capitalism vs capitalism with racism at the root. Why do you think america works so hard to destabilize other governments
 
If you have not gotten the message over the past 15-> 20 years that sneaking into the US is Not going to be easy, No matter who the President is or what he said on TV. You need to get your head checked. Since 911, just walking over the border is not going to be simple. You will need to watch your back 24/7. Even if you get past the texas, arizona border, You will have no papers, You will need to know people that can help you. You just can't hitchhike to get somewhere. The only job you will get are going to be the worst or most dangerous and if they do not pay you, What can you do about it ?

I would like to know who is telling all these people just get to the border. no matter where they are from Haiti, mexico, or where ever, That next month everything will change and america will welcome you with open arms ? They seems to show up in waves and every time the news is full of the worst treatment, children being taking away or you just leave your child with a border agent and walk back home never to see them again. I would like to know what they have been told and what they think will happen once they get to the border and even better what things will be like if they get inland
 
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geechiedan said:
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I just asked a question... there are arguments that increased immigration is bad for the black community....also black immigrants tend to either look down on or treat black americans with some level of disdain. That being the case then how is increased deportation of immigrants a cause for concern for black americans regardless of who is president? Hell, they called Obama the deporter in chief and it was one of the things conservatives DIDN'T complain about him.

its a legit question...no need for insults or defensiveness...
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How many black immigrants did you interview for your study on how they view black americans.
 
Supersav said:
You still thinking in terms of good guy bad guy and not looking at the actual actions of both Biden and Trump
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I know this, the Republicans are bullies and the Democrats are pussies. Both parties are eerily similar in America being for white or any country that's not dark and Haitians are pretty dark. That's pretty much how it is. Democrats really don't stand up for themselves or anything. Not forceful enough to do anything
 
Supersav said:
It's not about accountability. There is no viable alternative because the system is bullshit. Do you don't just throw up ya hands and say well I'll just vote democrat because they're better than the other side. There is no better. What's the alternative to capitalism in this country? In other countries you have communist and capitalist politicians that are capable of winning a truly democratic election. In this country you have capitalism vs capitalism with racism at the root. Why do you think america works so hard to destabilize other governments
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It is about accountability because I voted for biden and some fucked up shit happened on his watch and you're pointing that out. And because you haven't revealed who you voted for OR you didn't vote at all as you're disgusted with the whole system... you believe you can point out how everyone else is wrong because you personally don't have a stake in it.

And what your essentially talking about is revolution and while I do agree with the core point...how realistic is it to radically change the system that birthed the nation? And do you expect to do this nonviolently because that's NOT how change comes in human society? Everyone points at the civil rights marches as an example of nonviolent change but overlooks that that era was one of the most violent periods in american history in the last 100 years. Culminating in MLK himself getting his head blown off in broad daylight and half the country celebrating it.

So how does this radical change of the two party system and eradicating capitalism is supposed to work?
 
geechiedan said:
It is about accountability because I voted for biden and some fucked up shit happened on his watch and you're pointing that out. And because you haven't revealed who you voted for OR you didn't vote at all as you're disgusted with the whole system... you believe you can point out how everyone else is wrong because you personally don't have a stake in it.

And what your essentially talking about is revolution and while I do agree with the core point...how realistic is it to radically change the system that birthed the nation? And do you expect to do this nonviolently because that's NOT how change comes in human society? Everyone points at the civil rights marches as an example of nonviolent change but overlooks that that era was one of the most violent periods in american history in the last 100 years. Culminating in MLK himself getting his head blown off in broad daylight and half the country celebrating it.

So how does this radical change of the two party system and eradicating capitalism is supposed to work?
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America only respects violence. The change starts with people not participating in this farce of a system. Whenever the money is attacked they pay attention.
 
geechiedan said:
its accountability for your choices... your vote means you back a candidate and to talk about that candidate as if they were the enemy makes no sense. You can disagree and hate a decision made or action taken while still backing that candidate. I STILL have to own and be accountable for my choice. Hey, Obama did a lot of things I didn't like or frowned on but I'd still vote for him over the republican candidate 9.99 times out of 10.

There's a reason why Hillary didn't get the nomination in 08.

This is why the peanut gallery crew here are such bullshitters.. They DON'T make a choice because they don't want to held ACCOUNTABLE for it.

I put a poll up about tangibles and the choices between the dem and reps plans and I made the voting visible and THEY REFUSED TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CHOICE ON A PORN MESSAGEBOARD POLL! :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
hack-khaby.gif


Thats how afraid they are to be held accountable to their choice. Yet they all pontificate as if they have all the answers and everyone else is just stupid.

200.gif


They're happy tragedies like Afghanistan and Haiti happen so that they can laff, gloat and make snide comments while STILL NOT offering alternatives....nor solutions...all they have is bitching, moaning and finger pointing and its easy to do that WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE A CHOICE.

Thats also why they never admit who they voted for or they talk about NOT voting partially or at all cuz in their minds theyre blameless in the shit if they don't participate BUT they want to hold everyone else accountable.

If a viable alternative is offered then bidens days are numbered its that simple. Otherwise you work with the choice you made and try to get done what you can get done. Thats just how politics works:dunno:
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That's not how politics works. Politics works by the elite using these puppets to smooth fuck us over while we fight among each other. While the 'little guys' idolize these puppets and defend red/blue on set, the elite look at these puppets for what they are to them: TOOLS.

I already know that the masses are just too stupid. The game ain't even fair. The same process keeps repeating itself. Elites put their puppets in charge. Slow cook the little guy. Little guys bicker among each other over bullshit. Rinse. Repeat. Why offer a viable alternative when the masses are so fucking stupid and easy to manipulate?

Talking shit about these clowns makes perfect sense. No politician deserves your respect. EVER. They lower than the crackheads that we'd have run to the stores for us back in the day. In both cases, I expect them to do what they fucking are supposed to do or they are useless and I'll have someone else do the fucking job. Period.

But hey, I ain't here to change minds. Game been the game. I just like to reinforce in my own thinking why I don't really fuck with none of this political shit outside this board.

For 4 fucking years, Americans were happy with bad shit under Trump so they could gloat and fear monger. All people are doing now is showing shills that the more shit change, the more it stays the same.

In the market, cycles are expected. Same with politics. Shit is just a fucking cycle. Even though we know these cycles happen, people still get rekt. Still fall for the same shit. Masses behave just how we expect them to behave. Masses have been, are, and always will be dumb money. There are threads here going back to last year that predicted all this shit. Like I said, there could be a wall street cheat shit for politics.

Last fall it was belief and thrill. After the election it was euphoria. Now we are in complacency(That's why the shills on the board ain't got much to say). Then it will be denial. Then for 2022 it will cycle back to belief(it's different this time). Cycle will repeat with belief back again in 2024(this is REALLY the big one...for real).
 
Supersav said:
America only respects violence. The change starts with people not participating in this farce of a system. Whenever the money is attacked they pay attention.
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That's true. We seen that last year. All across the country businesses were fucked up. Some areas won't ever recover. Small business owners fucking rekt. Politicians said it was just 'stuff'. Use your insurance. Blah blah blah. We got some virtue signaling out of it. Companies making 'powerful' tweets.

The minute those cacs brought that shit to D.C. it was the fucking end times. Broke some windows, kicked in a few doors, nothing major, but they are unleashing hell on all those cacs.

Don't fuck with the money. And don't fuck with them. Burn your own shit down. Kick in your own doors. Don't ever, ever, ever fuck with us. Flip over a cop car or two. Don't care. But don't ever bring that shit to D.C. Ever.
 
durham said:
This sure ain't a good sign. Less folks of African.descent, more Mexican children :smh:
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Yea that’s why I’m keeping my spanish up. Dark skin is truly the worst of all races. That’s why u never here anyone complain about the tons of Asians that come to the west coast. That’s why Latinos are always met with “they have to be helped cuz it’s humanitarian”. but when it’s Africans, or Haitians or those from dark skin. Countries somehow they get shitted on. I have a problem with illegal immigrants of any race. However, the glaring differences in treatment is too blatant to ignore. Democrats, Republicans…….they both ass. It’s always just a matter of choosing the less shitty smelling one
 
gene cisco said:
That's not how politics works. Politics works by the elite using these puppets to smooth fuck us over while we fight among each other. While the 'little guys' idolize these puppets and defend red/blue on set, the elite look at these puppets for what they are to them: TOOLS.

I already know that the masses are just too stupid. The game ain't even fair. The same process keeps repeating itself. Elites put their puppets in charge. Slow cook the little guy. Little guys bicker among each other over bullshit. Rinse. Repeat. Why offer a viable alternative when the masses are so fucking stupid and easy to manipulate?

Talking shit about these clowns makes perfect sense. No politician deserves your respect. EVER. They lower than the crackheads that we'd have run to the stores for us back in the day. In both cases, I expect them to do what they fucking are supposed to do or they are useless and I'll have someone else do the fucking job. Period.

But hey, I ain't here to change minds. Game been the game. I just like to reinforce in my own thinking why I don't really fuck with none of this political shit outside this board.

For 4 fucking years, Americans were happy with bad shit under Trump so they could gloat and fear monger. All people are doing now is showing shills that the more shit change, the more it stays the same.

In the market, cycles are expected. Same with politics. Shit is just a fucking cycle. Even though we know these cycles happen, people still get rekt. Still fall for the same shit. Masses behave just how we expect them to behave. Masses have been, are, and always will be dumb money. There are threads here going back to last year that predicted all this shit. Like I said, there could be a wall street cheat shit for politics.

Last fall it was belief and thrill. After the election it was euphoria. Now we are in complacency(That's why the shills on the board ain't got much to say). Then it will be denial. Then for 2022 it will cycle back to belief(it's different this time). Cycle will repeat with belief back again in 2024(this is REALLY the big one...for real).
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Are YOU saying 2024 is the “big one” or is this what the shills think?
 
Tebriel6969 said:
Yea that’s why I’m keeping my spanish up. Dark skin is truly the worst of all races. That’s why u never here anyone complain about the tons of Asians that come to the west coast. That’s why Latinos are always met with “they have to be helped cuz it’s humanitarian”. but when it’s Africans, or Haitians or those from dark skin. Countries somehow they get shitted on. I have a problem with illegal immigrants of any race. However, the glaring differences in treatment is too blatant to ignore. Democrats, Republicans…….they both ass. It’s always just a matter of choosing the less shitty smelling one
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Lies about Dawk skin
 
Soul On Ice said:


wow
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spaceage78 said:
Devils
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See the gangster ass shit a politician can accomplish if they stay the fuck off Twitter and social media? Can put frosting on bullshit and the creatures will call it the best German Chocolate cake ever. Trump wasn't a threat to democracy. He was a threat to pimpin'. He was a threat to smooth gangsterism with his clumsy ass.

Now it's back to normal. Sinister shit can be done without the spotlight/attention whoring while MSM easily plays cover.
 
This shit is incredibly embarrassing for the Biden admin and it’s one area (among many others) where the neoliberal project coalesces nicely with conservative fever dreams. Jen Psaki was on some show the other day reassuring folks that the horses have been retired… as though that’s what made black folks sick to their stomachs watching the spectacle of Cowboy Slaver/LARPers whipping our brethren on horseback :smh:

Granted, the US Customs & Border Patrol culture is all the way fucked pre-Biden (see the exposes on NYT, Atlantic etc etc) but now that Biden and top cop Kamala are in charge they own all this fuckery and all they’ve done so far is make excuses and extend Trump’s border agenda. Shit is wild.
 
You haitians in Florida should vote republican then, I'm sure Desantis will look out for you.
 
It is clear that most folks are ride or die with the lie at this point. If you still can’t see the red and blue team is the same you just can’t see anything, IMO.
 
Supersav said:
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you know the part that stuck out to me was this VOTING FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS IS NOT A SOLUTION...

then what do you call this??
VAiz4hustlaz said:
I respect down-ballot voting, third-party voting, and even not voting as a strategy, a means to an end, and as way to compel your agenda and interests if you’re a member of a group that holds voting power as a block in a political party. Evangelicals and Tea Partiers (and even Trumpers) have done this to the GOP.

That said, I’ll likely vote for Stein/Ware since the Green Party does incorporate reparations into its platform.

But if you want me to weigh in on why I regard the current Dem policies as being more dangerous for us, Black Americans, than the GOP, I will.
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VAiz4hustlaz said:
On a basic level:
  • Trump/GOP represents a brand of racism and oppression that we’re already familiar with and far more virulent versions of which we have already survived before.
  • Kamala/Obama/Dems are taking us down a dangerous road that will ultimately lead to our annihilation as an ethnocultural group that some of us now see but far too many of us do NOT see.
I’ll DM you later to elaborate on these, particularly the latter point, as you seem to engage issues on a higher level even if we disagree.
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that sounds like rooting for the lesser of two evils....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: I thought that wasnt a solution????

make it make sense...

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
 

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