Why did you stop going to church....

Because I was forced to go. Then as I got older and started questioning what I was taught, it only made me have more questions like,

1. If Adam and Eve were the first humans, how did they reproduce without incest?

2. Same with Noah. Also, how was it possible for him to put every single animal male and female on a boat? What about all the poop?

3. Why do people in church preach living a certain lifestyle when they don't live by what they preached?

4. How is it possible to live completely sin free? So if I live a Christian life and one day see the finest woman I have ever seen with lust in my heart, then die am I going to hell for one shortcoming?

5. How is it possible to do something terrible and just say forgive me and be good?

6. How is traumatizing someone to make them feel like drinking grape juice is the blood of Christ along with some crackers, going to kill a person if I don't accept him as my lord and savior?

After watching this I felt it was symbolic of the church IMO.





When I died for that quick min I didn't see a devil and didn't see God welcoming me like this

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Only thing that happened to me when I died was darkness. No purgatory with Big, Pac, Martin, nada, just nothing. But I don't knock folks who believe, because I feel we all need something to give us hope that there's some type of peace after all this. My peace comes from within now.
 
The contradictions and hypocrisy always baffled me. As I got older I began to research and understand not only the TRUE history of christianity but also its purposes.

However, I'll let Mark Twain give the best quotes I've ever come across:

"Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool."

“A God who could make good children as easily a bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice, and invented hell--mouths mercy, and invented hell--mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people, and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites his poor abused slave to worship him!”

 
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Never really went but as a kid I stopped cause I was a boy scout and most of the scouts went to that church and the leaders were their fathers and or family but I just couldn't mesh with them kids like that because they said and did weird shit,especially the older scouts and after a few fights/arguements in the church where we met once a week they eventually told my parents I wasn't welcomed back.

I haven't stepped foot in a church since

It's crazy cause one of the scouts is a registered sex offender,Another was in the physic hospital and one of the older scouts is a gay dude which I knew he was gay back then cause what teenage boy puts that black shit on his eyelashes for a boy scout meeting everyweek.
 
Because I was forced to go. Then as I got older and started questioning what I was taught, it only made me have more questions like,

1. If Adam and Eve were the first humans, how did they reproduce without incest?

2. Same with Noah. Also, how was it possible for him to put every single animal male and female on a boat? What about all the poop?

3. Why do people in church preach living a certain lifestyle when they don't live by what they preached?

4. How is it possible to live completely sin free? So if I live a Christian life and one day see the finest woman I have ever seen with lust in my heart, then die am I going to hell for one shortcoming?

5. How is it possible to do something terrible and just say forgive me and be good?

6. How is traumatizing someone to make them feel like drinking grape juice is the blood of Christ along with some crackers, going to kill a person if I don't accept him as my lord and savior?

After watching this I felt it was symbolic of the church IMO.





When I died for that quick min I didn't see a devil and didn't see God welcoming me like this

giphy.gif


Only thing that happened to me when I died was darkness. No purgatory with Big, Pac, Martin, nada, just nothing. But I don't knock folks who believe, because I feel we all need something to give us hope that there's some type of peace after all this. My peace comes from within now.

Yea and what did the animals eat on the boat? You would have had to had a whole nother boat to hold all the food.

And it would be impossible to put 2 of each animal on 1 boat especially if you include every breed.

If you can't believe in evolution then that means you would have to put each breed of every animal on the boat. There are at least 8 different types of elephants, more than 48 different types of horses, more than 48 types of cows and on and on.

When I ask about this, they say only 2 of the original animals were put on the boat and later they were breeded into the other types years later, but how can you breed with something that doesnt exist yet unless it evolves?

Also if Noah was seen as a drunkard, why would God think it was fair for him to deliver the message? According to them, they had never seen rain but Noah was given the task of telling everyone on earth that rain will be destroying the earth.

I see crazy people all the time saying the world is about to end but I would not be convinced based on the messanger, so I would not have believed Noah either.
 
Because I was a habitual sinner and enjoyed it. Since I don't like being a hypocrite, I stopped.

Eventually, I looked into the history of it more and it turned off from it.

However, a lot of my foundational morals and values come from my Christian upbringing.
And ALL of those foundational morals came from millenia of superceding human experience that became wisdom. (Not lecturing just providing a subtext)
 
Because I was a habitual sinner and enjoyed it. Since I don't like being a hypocrite, I stopped.

Eventually, I looked into the history of it more and it turned off from it.

However, a lot of my foundational morals and values come from my Christian upbringing.
as a young man, went to the clubs looking for women, often straight to church right after, looking for women .....
 
I read the entire bible from cover to cover. *nuff said*


If any of you have also done this then you'll completely understand why I gave up going to church.
I have as well. As a kid, my generation was done as you were told and didn't question adults. So I went to both church services and Sunday school every week without fail. But as I got a little older, started questioning stuff like why are the male elders and teachers smoking if it's bad for you, why they always posted up with these women that's not their wives, some young enough to be their daughters, etc. All that "follow the word and not the man" conflicted with my young inquisitive mind. Was irrational to me and didnt add up. After a few years, I stopped going, around 12 yrs old. As far as the Bible goes, all good fairy tales start with, "Once upon a time.." That one starts with, " In the beginning..."
 
as a young man, went to the clubs looking for women, often straight to church right after, looking for women .....
Shidd.....many of my targets as a teen were church girls, especially deacon or elders daughters. Only reason I would go to church. Anytime they drill into a person head what they shouldn't be doing, makes them curious and want to do it. Fornicating, drinking, getting high, etc. While them chicks bowed their heads and prayed, I was in they ears and preyed. He who is without sin, cast the first stone, damn it!
 
This is just my attempt answer your questions, strictly my opinions. I'm just some who can be severely disillusioned by church leadership behavior. There are people who are genuinely good Christians, and there are wolves in sheep's skin, along with others who use Christianity to achieve their own selfish aims.
I still attend due to the type of church and my personal beliefs.

Because I was forced to go. Then as I got older and started questioning what I was taught, it only made me have more questions like,

1. If Adam and Eve were the first humans, how did they reproduce without incest?
Why would it be incest if they reproduced? It's not like they were brother & sister. Are you saying Seth was a product of incest? Unless I misunderstood your question.
2. Same with Noah. Also, how was it possible for him to put every single animal male and female on a boat? What about all the poop?
2a. 1st/2nd cousin marriages (my opinion). Another guess would be that incest did not have profound effect on human biology at that time compared to later times.
2b. I'm pretty sure waste management was included in the design. The Bible doesn't include every minute detail of everything it refers to, same as other books.

3. Why do people in church preach living a certain lifestyle when they don't live by what they preached?
That's why churches have been turning off people. My current church has a good track record, my previous one? Not so much!
Other religion do the same, don't they? Muslims are not supposed to drink but they do. They're supposed to be fair to each other but they're right there with christian cacs when it comes to racism.

4. How is it possible to live completely sin free? So if I live a Christian life and one day see the finest woman I have ever seen with lust in my heart, then die am I going to hell for one shortcoming?
No, it is NOT possible to live completely sin free. The Bible encourages working on one's self thru the process of sanctification. 100% is supposedly achieved once one goes to heaven.
5. How is it possible to do something terrible and just say forgive me and be good?
Confession has to come from the heart, with the aim of not repeating the same sin, not just uttering some nonsense words and you're miraculously forgiven.
6. How is traumatizing someone to make them feel like drinking grape juice is the blood of Christ along with some crackers, going to kill a person if I don't accept him as my lord and savior?
Symbolic act that brings remembrance to their savior's sacrifice to bring them salvation. I don't get the latter part of this question.
After watching this I felt it was symbolic of the church IMO.





When I died for that quick min I didn't see a devil and didn't see God welcoming me like this

giphy.gif


Only thing that happened to me when I died was darkness. No purgatory with Big, Pac, Martin, nada, just nothing. But I don't knock folks who believe, because I feel we all need something to give us hope that there's some type of peace after all this. My peace comes from within now.

I take it you didn't fully "transition" so you didn't get to your "final" destination so of course you're not going to see Biggie and Pac chilling in their mansions. :giggle:


I know the wolves are coming :lol:
 
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Rather go outside on Sundays ( I was a kid) during the summer than stay at church , eventually football would’ve definitely had pushed it to the side.. I still believe in a higher power just haven’t been attending the man made house in over 34 yrs consistently
 
Just History of Ancient Kemet, the Nicean Council, slavery. No organized religion.
 
If the Lord is the All Knowing, All Mighty, All Omnipresent, and his essence is within us all.. why do I need a middle man?
When you say "...his essence is within us", what exactly are you referring to? According to the Bible which I assume you don't believe it, the "middle man comes in as a perfect sacrifice to reconcile man back to God.
 
I was about 12. I really thought Sunday school was a place to get answers. When I didn't get those answers I thought the adults were idiots. So I never went back. Six years later I was in Harlem surrounded by books and Black people with those answers.
 
I grew up Jehovah Witness, need I say more? I was born into the religion by default because of my parents.

I hated knocking on doors preaching to people. Back in the 80's and 90's you also had to walk the streets stopping and preaching to folks. Unless it was pouring rain and snowing heavy you were out there. Can you imagine being 12 years old having to get up on a ice cold December Saturday when it's 32 degrees outside to knock on doors at 10am. How about a 90 degree day in July at 10am walking up and down neighborhoods to knock on doors.

Do you know what its like to wear a suit in 90 degree weather going up and down stairs for blocks and blocks while carrying a brief case with magazines and bibles?

Never had a childhood birthday party, never celebrated Christmas or any other festive holiday until I got on my own and my girlfriend at the time introduced me to it all.

That place is full of hypocrites and cliques. I managed to escape when I moved away from Philly to the DMV when I was 24.

My siblings also left that religion but my parents in their 70's are still in that organization ten toes down.
 
Damn that's rough @doe moe . Glad you were able to get up out of there. Here is the WASP who started what we now know as Jehovah Witness.
Russell, Charles Taze
Russell, Charles Taze Charles Taze Russell, photograph by Eric Patterson, 1911.



Wildest part of it all is there are no white people in Bibles, Torahs or Korans. It's not white people historical culture regionally. As they were not ever there in those places at those times.
 
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