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blackman80 said:
Man, I only saw two matches that Miro was in that was good!!...Other than that, he was just flll in wrestler to me!!...Let him walk TK!!!..
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Can we be honest If you are not a flip flop spot monkey AEW has a problem producing the Big Brute style. I think Rusev would benefit from a run in TNA.
blackman80 said:
@Mastermind2002 , I wouldn't mind seeing Queen and Yuka tag teaming again!!..This was a good match like I thought it would be!!...I'm cool it ended in a DQ..They can build a feud with Queen and Serena!!..
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Why wasn’t Queen Aminata showcased in the Queen vs Mariah/Serena match, especially since she has a partner in Red Velvet? Adding Yuka felt a bit off, considering Aminata’s current momentum. If it were up to me, I would have kept the DQ finish but had Athena and Billie Starkz show up to attack Queen Aminata and Red Velvet.

Imagine the impact if Athena turns and then locks eyes with Mariah May, teasing a future AEW Women's Championship feud. This could create a perfect long-term storyline that crosses over into ROH. Queen Aminata can continue her quest for the ROH Women’s title, eventually leading to Athena dropping the belt to her.

This opens up a ton of potential for a future clash between Mariah May and Athena, setting the stage for a highly anticipated feud.
 
datboi said:
Can we be honest If you are not a flip flop spot monkey AEW has a problem producing the Big Brute style. I think Rusev would benefit from a run in TNA.

Why wasn’t Queen Aminata showcased in the Queen vs Mariah/Serena match, especially since she has a partner in Red Velvet? Adding Yuka felt a bit off, considering Aminata’s current momentum. If it were up to me, I would have kept the DQ finish but had Athena and Billie Starkz show up to attack Queen Aminata and Red Velvet.

Imagine the impact if Athena turns and then locks eyes with Mariah May, teasing a future AEW Women's Championship feud. This could create a perfect long-term storyline that crosses over into ROH. Queen Aminata can continue her quest for the ROH Women’s title, eventually leading to Athena dropping the belt to her.

This opens up a ton of potential for a future clash between Mariah May and Athena, setting the stage for a highly anticipated feud.
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Too bad you're not booking the shows. Tony needs to seriously give up the book.
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Too bad you're not booking the shows. Tony needs to seriously give up the book.
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It was said on Busted Open, Tony's biggest asset is also his biggest problem. His passion. His passion creates tunnel vision, and that tunnel vision is what keeps him from understanding the moves that he needs to make. Also his aversion to criticism. He only listens if he's being praised.
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Queen Aminata/Serena Deeb put on a solid match. Women's division really cooking right now with a few exceptions.
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@Mastermind2002 , This was a dope ass match!!..:yes: ..The best match on this Collision show!!.. :yes: ..You know I wanted The Queen to win!!..But, I'm upset that they had this match so quickly..I really wish TK would build this match up for a ppv....A match like this could have been a match on the Zero Hour at WrestleDream or a match on the fight card at WrestleDeam!!...TK had messed up on booking this match!!..I would love to see this match again!!..
 
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Nochturnal said:
It was said on Busted Open, Tony's biggest asset is also his biggest problem. His passion. His passion creates tunnel vision, and that tunnel vision is what keeps him from understanding the moves that he needs to make. Also his aversion to criticism. He only listens if he's being praised.
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I think that eventually happens when you're the ONLY one ontop of that mountain. You put out what you think is good eventually the culture changes what you're putting out is no longer relevant.
 
0utsyder said:
I think that eventually happens when you're the ONLY one ontop of that mountain. You put out what you think is good eventually the culture changes what you're putting out is no longer relevant.
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He's not even doing that, he's doing the old Vince thing and booking to entertain himself. People try to tell him what he needs to change for adjust, and it goes in one ear and out the other. For instance, this whole Bryan and Nigel situation. Not everyone watched ROH to know their history. Anyone who's watched, hell, just sat wrestling in general for the past 5 years, if they know Nigel, they only know him as a commentator. How hard is it to do a proper build to the match letting people know their history, you have the library at your disposal. But Tony acts like if you watch AEW, you should just know. And that shit is driving people away in droves. And it's been a consistant issue across the board for him.
 
datboi said:
I think TK let the internet wrestling community dictate the direction he moves vs being innovative and keeping us guessing to tune in next week.
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I agree with this 100%. Grandslam is 3 days away, and it's still "not kown" if Bryan is competing. Imagine, if you got a Clip of Bryan coming out of the hospital, he turns to the camera and says "Nigel, weather I'm cleared or not, I'll see you Wednesday you son of a bitch" that only helps this situation, and it's a small thing.
 




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I don't like this. I can see them reserving Cody's championship matches to main event Big Four PPVs, but I still think the man holding the top title should close out the show every time. Yes, Punk/Drew has been the best feud of the summer, but it should not close the show.

When Cody drops the belt back to Roman, the pop Roman gets will be bigger to the one Cody received at this year's WrestleMania.....
 
EPDC said:
I don't like this. I can see them reserving Cody's championship matches to main event Big Four PPVs, but I still think the man holding the top title should close out the show every time. Yes, Punk/Drew has been the best feud of the summer, but it should not close the show.

When Cody drops the belt back to Roman, the pop Roman gets will be bigger to the one Cody received at this year's WrestleMania.....
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They didn't have a game plan for Cody beyond "finishing the story" and we are seeing it play out. I don't mind Drew and Punk main eventing, especially with Cody being in a tag match, but Cody not main eventing the previous 2 PLEs is what makes it a problem.
 
EPDC said:
I don't like this. I can see them reserving Cody's championship matches to main event Big Four PPVs, but I still think the man holding the top title should close out the show every time. Yes, Punk/Drew has been the best feud of the summer, but it should not close the show.

When Cody drops the belt back to Roman, the pop Roman gets will be bigger to the one Cody received at this year's WrestleMania.....
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I don't mind them not having Cody main event every PLE, hell, I wouldn't even be mad if he wasn't on every PLE.
They had John Cena main event every PPV back in the day and eventually fans got sick of him even though he still made the company a lot of money.
I think only having Cody main event certain PLEs and maybe even being off the show altogether is a sound idea so fans don't get sick of him too quickly.
 
XXXplosive said:
I don't mind them not having Cody main event every PLE, hell, I wouldn't even be mad if he wasn't on every PLE.
They had John Cena main event every PPV back in the day and eventually fans got sick of him even though he still made the company a lot of money.
I think only having Cody main event certain PLEs and maybe even being off the show altogether is a sound idea so fans don't get sick of him too quickly.
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I don't need Cody to be at every PPV however if he is competing, at every PPV, then he should be main eventing.

The Champ should always go on last, except for the Royal Rumble.
 
EPDC said:
I don't need Cody to be at every PPV however if he is competing, at every PPV, then he should be main eventing.

The Champ should always go on last, except for the Royal Rumble.
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I get that it's the Bloodline story but the Hell in a Cell match with the best feud in the company should main event over a tag team match where 1 team is a completely makeshift team. There's a chance if Cody's match was the main event that the crowd would be on the decline after watching HIAC unless there's a surprise or finish that's guaranteed to be the biggest topic of discussion from the PLE
 
Nochturnal said:
They didn't have a game plan for Cody beyond "finishing the story" and we are seeing it play out. I don't mind Drew and Punk main eventing, especially with Cody being in a tag match, but Cody not main eventing the previous 2 PLEs is what makes it a problem.
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If ONLY someone had mentioned this before he won the belt!!! You have NO IDEA how I HATE being right!!!!
 
EPDC said:
I don't like this. I can see them reserving Cody's championship matches to main event Big Four PPVs, but I still think the man holding the top title should close out the show every time. Yes, Punk/Drew has been the best feud of the summer, but it should not close the show.

When Cody drops the belt back to Roman, the pop Roman gets will be bigger to the one Cody received at this year's WrestleMania.....
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Nochturnal said:
They didn't have a game plan for Cody beyond "finishing the story" and we are seeing it play out. I don't mind Drew and Punk main eventing, especially with Cody being in a tag match, but Cody not main eventing the previous 2 PLEs is what makes it a problem.
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XXXplosive said:
I don't mind them not having Cody main event every PLE, hell, I wouldn't even be mad if he wasn't on every PLE.
They had John Cena main event every PPV back in the day and eventually fans got sick of him even though he still made the company a lot of money.
I think only having Cody main event certain PLEs and maybe even being off the show altogether is a sound idea so fans don't get sick of him too quickly.
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EPDC said:
I don't need Cody to be at every PPV however if he is competing, at every PPV, then he should be main eventing.

The Champ should always go on last, except for the Royal Rumble.
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c_commander said:
I get that it's the Bloodline story but the Hell in a Cell match with the best feud in the company should main event over a tag team match where 1 team is a completely makeshift team. There's a chance if Cody's match was the main event that the crowd would be on the decline after watching HIAC unless there's a surprise or finish that's guaranteed to be the biggest topic of discussion from the PLE
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These last PPV have been gimmicky PPV's so not having the title be defended makes sense UNLESS it's defended in said gimmick match. The homie @EPDC mentioned that Cody shouldn't be competing and based on the storyline that he is involved in it makes sense to not even have him in these PPV's. The match with Kevin Owens had very little build up and was more of a transition to having Roman come back
 

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