Republican coon Byron Donalds says Black people were better off during Jim Crow
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Byron Donalds implied Black people were better off under Jim Crow. So we checked.
OPINION: We fact-checked Republican Byron Donalds' claims about Black families, conservative values and progress during America's racial apartheid era. Here's what we found.MICHAEL HARRIOT
JUN 7, 2024
U.S. Congressman Byron Donalds says stuff about things (Photo by Riccardo Savi/Getty Images for Concordia Summit)
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Byron Donalds is usually wrong.
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To be fair, as one of only five African-American Republican members of Congress, being wrong is part of his job. In 2023, Donalds (R-Fla.) appeared on Joy Reid’s MSNBC show to be wrong about critical race theory and “woke” history. He was wrong when he believed his fellow Republicans would support his candidacy for speaker of the House. He was wrong when he voted to overturn the results of the 2020 election. So it wasn’t unusual when people accused the two-term congressman of valorizing the era of government-approved racism known as “Jim Crow.”
This is what Donalds does.
But instead of accusing Donalds of performing anti-Blackness in exchange for praise and pats on the head from his white colleagues, theGrio decided to fact-check Donalds’ actual statements.
Was the Black family better off under Jim Crow?
Here’s what we found.
What Byron Donalds actually said
On Tuesday, Donalds appeared at two Trump campaign events organized to “garner the Black male vote,” according to the Philadelphia Inquirer. During the “Congress, Cognac and Cigars” gathering, Donalds explained how Black people benefitted from institutional racism.“During Jim Crow, the Black family was together,” Donalds explained to the crowd at the white-owned business in one of the “whitest and most conservative” parts of the city where Donalds and his GOP colleagues unsuccessfully asked elections officials to toss out Black voters’ ballots. “During Jim Crow, more Black people were not just conservative — Black people have always been conservative-minded — but more Black people voted conservatively. And then H.E.W., Lyndon Johnson — you go down that road, and now we are where we are.”
Pressed by CNN host Abby Phillip on Wednesday, James Crow Jr. doubled down on his remarks. “All I was doing was referring to the time periods,” the American apartheid advocate explained. “Frankly, what that is, is about the empirical fact that before the Great Society before Lyndon Johnson’s policies, there was more Black families united. The marriage rate in Black America was significantly higher before the Great Society. The period of time that coincides with that, obviously, is the Jim Crow era.”
What was Jim Crow?
After the 1876 presidential election, 15 white men gathered in a room to figure out a solution to the first Stop the Steal Movement.Known as the Wormley Agreement or the Compromise of 1877, five Supreme Court justices, five senators and five representatives awarded the presidency to Rutherford B. Hayes in exchange for ending the Reconstruction Era. The concessions included a specific accommodation that the federal government would stop forcing former confederate states to recognize the constitutional rights of Black citizens. Legislatures in Northern and Southern states immediately created a series of racially discriminatory policies that became known as Jim Crow laws.
For 100 years — from the end of race-based slavery until the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 – every Black person in America lived under this constitutionally enforced, government-approved system of white supremacy. Because of Jim Crow, the Black codes created after emancipation were now the law of the land. Segregated schools were mandatory under Jim Crow. Under Jim Crow, it was perfectly fine to disenfranchise Black voters and ban non-white people from living wherever they wanted. Jim Crow excluded Black taxpayers from using facilities built and maintained with their tax dollars.
And according to Byron Donalds, Black people thrived.
Were Black voters more conservative?
Most Black people couldn’t vote under Jim Crow. According to the U.S. census data, between 1880 and 1960, the majority of Black Americans lived in the South. Specifically, they lived in states that disenfranchised African-American voters, which is why the Civil Rights Act of 1964’s preclearance requirement banned these states from changing their voting laws without permission from the Department of Justice. It is literally impossible to know what the majority of Black Americans wanted under Jim Crow if they couldn’t vote.Even if one counted the votes of the Black people who did vote, there was never a moment in the history of this country when the majority of Black voters supported conservative politics. Shortly after the Civil War, Southern Republicans started the anti-Black Lily White movement to prevent Black voters from gaining control of the party. Meanwhile, conservative Democrats didn’t even allow Black people to attend the party’s conventions in an official capacity until 1924. Although a majority of Black voters supported Franklin Roosevelt’s presidential campaign, it wasn’t until 1948 that most Black voters (77%) considered themselves Democrats. By then, white voters had fled the Democratic Party, precisely because the party was no longer conservative.
So, when Donalds said, “Black people voted more conservatively during Jim Crow,” either he was lying or he didn’t know what he was talking about.
Did Black families fare better?
First, let’s look at wealth.In 1900, white households had about nine times the wealth of Black households. This disparity in wealth essentially remained unchanged throughout the Jim Crow, according to “The Wealth of Two Nations: The U.S. Racial Wealth Gap, 1860-2020. In 2022, the average white family had $100 for every $15 held by Black households. And while the Black-white employment gap began during the Great Depression, which coincided with Jim Crow, this still doesn’t tell the complete story.
Under Jim Crow, tax dollars from Black families were used to fund segregated education systems that increased the generational wealth of white families. Take Jim Crow South Carolina, for instance, where Black citizens made up 48.9% of the population in 1940. Because the state constitution made integrated schools illegal, Black K-12 schools were worth an estimated $12.9 million while white schools were worth nearly five times that number.
Jim Crow’s legalized theft wasn’t limited to education. Under Jim Crow, Black families were forced to foot the bills for libraries, hospitals, parks and public facilities they couldn’t use. Their federal tax dollars funded scholarships and home loans for white veterans while Black veterans were excluded from the G.I. Bill. New Deal programs used Black taxpayers’ money to give white people jobs, build redlined neighborhoods and create whites-only suburbs.
Maybe Byron Donalds believes robbing Black families of their generational wealth and opportunity and giving it to white families is good for African America.
Donalds is partially right that the rate of Black marriages has declined since the Jim Crow era. The percentage of Black children born to unmarried mothers has also dramatically increased. However, those statistics hold true for every racial demographic. While Donalds would like to attribute this to the Democrats, government handouts and “welfare” programs, people who know things understand that out-of-wedlock births correlate with poverty, education and income more than race. Plus, first-time white moms are more likely to have a “shotgun wedding” when they get pregnant.
Furthermore, Donald’s entire definition of “family” is based on marriage statistics, but researchers who actually cite facts found “no significant differences” between how unmarried Black fathers interact with their children compared to other races. The only difference they noted is that “White fathers spend significantly fewer days per month” with their children than Black fathers.
To be fair, here’s what Donalds said about the downfall of the white family:*
*I’ll insert Byron Donalds quote about white families here when I find it
About those conservative values
The biggest problem with Byron’s status as the Black Bull Connor is that everything he believes is based on a commonly accepted myth. For more than 200 years, both parties have managed to bamboozle their constituents into believing in the false premise of political conservatism. Whether Donalds is a shameless liar, a well-meaning ignoramus or a political prop intentionally misinterpreting history, facts and data for his own political gain, one thing is abundantly clear:There is no such thing as “conservative principles.”
Before Strom Thurmond led an exodus of conservative white Dixiecrats to the GOP, the “states’ rights” Democrats were considered the conservative party. Today, the Republican coalition consists of evangelical Christians, anti-abortion “pro-lifers,” small government proponents and ideologues who want to preserve their Judeo-Christian beliefs of gender, sexuality and individual freedoms.
“Conservatism” is just white supremacy wrapped in an American flag.
If Donalds’ party actually believed in fiscal conservatism, they would want to repay this country’s debt to Black Americans. To be fair, if they were fiscally conservative, the national debt would not increase when Republican presidents are in office. And while conservatives blame the downfall of the Black family on welfare, Democrats and LBJ’s Great Society programs, Governing reports that “eight of the 10 most federally dependent states were Republican, while seven of the 10 least federally dependent states were Democratic.”
A small government conservative who believed in personal and religious freedom wouldn’t want politicians weighing in on reproductive choices, gender identity and sexuality. A social conservative wouldn’t support a lying, racist, xenophobic convicted felon. Wouldn’t an “evangelical Christian” do something about generational theft, inequality and poverty? Instead, they have chosen a lying, thieving, corrupt adulterer as their lord and savior. A real pro-lifer would at least pretend to care about police brutality, Black maternal mortality rates, the death penalty, access to health care and gun violence. A states’ rights conservative wouldn’t disenfranchise Black voters or ask the federal government to toss out certified election results.
Interestingly enough, Donalds’ marriage would be illegal under Jim Crow. When “conservative North Florida Democrats” took control of Florida’s legislature in 1885, their new constitution prohibited “all marriages between a white person and a negro, or between a white person and a person of negro descent to the fourth generation.” Then again, if Byron Donalds was an actual conservative, he would hate the progressive laws that created the diversion programs that benefitted him when he was arrested for marijuana distribution and when he pleaded no contest to felony theft.
Anti-Blackness is the only conservative principle
The only logical conclusion that anyone could gain from Donalds’ argument is that Black people were better off when their votes, tax dollars, education, economic well-being and — most importantly — their humanity were controlled by white people. In his whitewashed, conservative brain, white people are more intelligent, have better values and are more responsible than Black people. According to Donalds, the fact that Black people survived the most brutal period, most undemocratic era of physical violence, institutional racism and government-approved anti-Blackness is proof that white people are right and Black people are wrong.This is the conservatism that Byron Donalds wants Black people to embrace.
Unfortunately for Byron Donalds, his belief in white people’s fictionalized version of history is disproven by history, facts and factual evidence. Before Black people strangled Jim Crow to death, America was not a democracy. This nation murdered, raped, tortured and pillaged its poorest, most oppressed citizens until Black people gave this country some family values. We are the patriots whose blood, sweat and tears conserved the ideas that founded this “land of opportunity.”
I don’t judge Byron Donalds for insinuating that Black people were better when white supremacy was the law of the land. For the last 60 years, most white voters have cast ballots for candidates who espouse the same beliefs. This is their American dream. Donalds is just part of their ongoing effort to convince Black Americans that they were better off when their votes, tax dollars, jobs, health, generational wealth, education, homes and their very lives were subject to the whims of white supremacy. In their minds, this was when America was at its greatest. And, as the Republicans’ leading Jim Crow advocate, Byron Donalds has one job:
Make America great again.
RICO was set up specifically because of the mob...lol.
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It was signed into law by US President Richard Nixon. Prosecutors in the 1970s used it to prosecute the Mafia as well as others who were actively engaged in organized crime.
stop with the trolling bullshit. No one dem or repub talks about the good ole days of the crime bill era. Why the fuck are any black people talking about the great aspects of Jim Crow, which is the point of this entire thread.
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what he also said
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The clip showed Donalds saying “during Jim Crow, the Black family was together,” and noting during that time period, “more Black people voted conservatively.”
Do you know the two things that were illegal or highly frowned upon during the Jim Crow era. One of them was marrying white women. Can you guess the second?
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This board have gone to shit thank God I don't post on here the fucking guy ment there was black family in that Era he never Said it was good you dumbass youngin don't realize that all these migrant thats in this country gonna replace ur dumb ass eventually so stfu coon open ur fucking eyes
Show me were he said that blacks was better under Jim crow ur such a bot he said there was alot of black family in that Era
Facts
Ignore
John Gotti beat the FedsRICO was set up specifically because of the mob...lol.
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act - Wikipedia
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It was signed into law by US President Richard Nixon. Prosecutors in the 1970s used it to prosecute the Mafia as well as others who were actively engaged in organized crime.
stop with the trolling bullshit. No one dem or repub talks about the good ole days of the crime bill era. Why the fuck are any black people talking about the great aspects of Jim Crow, which is the point of this entire thread.
Also Joe Biden:
US poised to ease restrictions on marijuana in historic shift, but it'll remain controlled substance
In a historic shift, the U.S. moves to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, AP sources say.
It comes after President Joe Biden called for a review of federal marijuana law in October 2022 and moved to pardon thousands of Americans convicted federally of simple possession of the drug. He has also called on governors and local leaders to take similar steps to erase marijuana convictions.
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It took taxes to get Capone
We seen 2 recent Black artists and labels get caught in a Rico act and a distance third with BMF.
Organized crime ran an entire city in Vegas.
You not having a honest conversation. We talking about Blak Families and Jim Crow and Byron Donald’s
Not fucking Italian immigrants
Cause Mike did the beat
Who is buddy?
Nig please
Interracial marriage was also illegal in a bunch of states.
By 1958, two dozen states still prohibited interracial marriage: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming.
Still no data or peer reviewed journal articles to support his claims....Does even know the time period of Jim Crow south? Did his parents grow up in Jim Crow and migrate to NY??? Families members that lived in Jim Crow south???
Does he even know share cropping and tenant farming was very much a thing in Jim Crow south??
Less than 1% of my homies are not married.....
Niggas just pull shit out of the air with no facts to support it.....
Does he even know share cropping and tenant farming was very much a thing in Jim Crow south??
Less than 1% of my homies are not married.....
Niggas just pull shit out of the air with no facts to support it.....
I was telling people about this case that affirmed Jim Crow by Asians. It happened in 1920's but gives you insight to their thinking. He argued I am not colored and should be allowed into this white school.
Indians also used this argument to remove immigration barriers. I am Caucasian argument.
We should take a page from their playbook and get rights for only us and leave the other groups hanging. We help them setup their businesses and give them rights to attend white schools.
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Koreans we're the only group that rejected this nonsense.
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Gotti died in prison and read what he was found guilty of:
John Gotti - Wikipedia
In 1992, Gotti was convicted of five murders, conspiracy to commit murder, racketeering, obstruction of justice, tax evasion, illegal gambling, extortion and loansharking. He received life in prison without parole and was transferred to United States Penitentiary, Marion.
Organized crime got ran out of Vegas.
At some point, the mafia were full blown Americans with ties to Italy.
Some whites got caught up in the war on drugs, doesn't mean it still didn't primarily affect black people. In the history of Rico, what's the comparison of cases between black folk and white folk?
Bryon said some dumb shit and got called out
I really hope that we as Black folks keep Black issues at the forefront. There are Conservative Coons and Liberal Coons. Republican Coons and Democrat Coons. We need to ignore the cooning and demand tangibles.
He still beat the mob. And Sammy the bull snitched on him.Gotti died in prison and read what he was found guilty of:
John Gotti - Wikipedia
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In 1992, Gotti was convicted of five murders, conspiracy to commit murder, racketeering, obstruction of justice, tax evasion, illegal gambling, extortion and loansharking. He received life in prison without parole and was transferred to United States Penitentiary, Marion.
Organized crime got ran out of Vegas.
At some point, the mafia were full blown Americans with ties to Italy.
Some whites got caught up in the war on drugs, doesn't mean it still didn't primarily affect black people. In the history of Rico, what's the comparison of cases between black folk and white folk?
Bryon said some dumb shit and got called out
Without Sammy the bull, gotti would have beaten the feds twice.
Young thug is on trial for hear say.
Had us all reading that as if it were the Bible
Was Umar called out when he said the same dumb shit?Gotti died in prison and read what he was found guilty of:
John Gotti - Wikipedia
In 1992, Gotti was convicted of five murders, conspiracy to commit murder, racketeering, obstruction of justice, tax evasion, illegal gambling, extortion and loansharking. He received life in prison without parole and was transferred to United States Penitentiary, Marion.
Organized crime got ran out of Vegas.
At some point, the mafia were full blown Americans with ties to Italy.
Some whites got caught up in the war on drugs, doesn't mean it still didn't primarily affect black people. In the history of Rico, what's the comparison of cases between black folk and white folk?
Bryon said some dumb shit and got called out
I don’t like drug dealers like Byron Donalds at all
Also do you support stop and frisk?
Who the fuck takes Omar seriously after all the money he stole for his imaginary school?
Why do you keep asking me about stop and frisk and what does it have to do with this convo?
How do you think most criminal empires crumble? Remember Henry Hill from Good Fellas? All the people that wanted to kill him are either dead or in jail. Guess why he got witness protection over prison.
What's a democrat coon again?
Stop and frisk caused several people to die by the police. I won’t name names out of respect
But stop and frisk definitely caused me emotional harm when I saw the affects it had on my people.
The numbers were there.
So I will be the bigger and stronger man and say I don’t support stop and frisk just like I didn’t and don’t support the Joe crime bill.
U support both apparently
I agree with that CNN Title. Statistically, Black Family unit were better under the Jim Crow era. That is fact, you can not like the taste of it, but it reality. That's not saying Jim Crow was a good thing or Jim Crow is responsible for that fact. It's simply using the Jim Crow era as a timeline. Focus! Itr's saying that in the years of Jim Crow compared to now. black families were stronger. Anyone that doesn't understand this is being disingenuous to support a political point. If anyone on this board tells me the black family unit (man in the household and leading) and mother taking her appropriate role and kids paying attention wasn't stronger between 1877-196 vs now, im calling you a liar
Are u a fan of these new tools?
We back to slave catching days with these “new” systems of tools?