Method Man says he will never perform at summer jam Hot 97 again.

[keone]

I understand, but I don't believe hip-hop translates well across generations. That's just my opinion, though.

Especially considering it's a notoriously divisive genre.

Thats because the sampling stopped.
36 mafia was getting their 4th wind when they started sampling their songs. No knowing 36 sampled from older songs.

 

[4 Dimensional]

Also to be really real?

Every one can have a bad show Meth.

Yall know that better than anyone.

Let's not let ONE moment completely define a generation

We HATE when the other side does that to us

I can't do anything with this lineup.

"Doja Cat, Offset, Sexyy Red, Davido, Sleepy Hallow, Tee Grizzley, 41 Kyle Richh, Jenn Carter, and TaTa."

 

[4 Dimensional]

Thats because the sampling stopped.
36 mafia was getting their 4th wind when they started sampling their songs. No knowing 36 sampled from older songs.

Good point. Linear notes got me interested in where the original music came from.

Hip-hop is what introduced me to blaxploitation movies and soundtracks from the 1970s.

Today, most music is rubber-stamped.

 

[keone]

Good point. Linear notes got me interested in where the original music came from.

Hip-hop is what introduced me to blaxploitation movies and soundtracks from the 1970s.

Today, most music is rubber-stamped.

Exactly! It was costing too much money to sample. Thats the exact point rap went to shit. Look at how many songs that wouldnt exist if it wasnt for sampling. Scary sight

 

[MistaPhantastic]

I understand, but I don't believe hip-hop translates well across generations. That's just my opinion, though.

Especially considering it's a notoriously divisive genre.

Then why do the white, Asian, and latino hip-hop fans get it? They show up. Their kids show up.
Let an artist that crosses genres and generations like Snoop Dogg come to town. Old heads be in the place trying to C-walk with their kids n' shit.
What I'm trying to say is that is cultural. We as black folk need to work harder on passing down culture or else we risk losing it. We have to stop the divisiveness ourselves. The legacy artists need to start touring with the youngbloods, doing songs with them and bringing them on stage. We have to be the ones who pass the torch. Its the only way we stay in control of our legacy.

 

[MistaPhantastic]

I can't do anything with this lineup.

"Doja Cat, Offset, Sexyy Red, Davido, Sleepy Hallow, Tee Grizzley, 41 Kyle Richh, Jenn Carter, and TaTa."

Doja Cat has a full Arena show. She's a headliner at this point. The rest of them are openers who should be doing clubs.

You're not wrong. That's on the promoters for putting together a wack show.

But, imagine this lineup:
Doja Cat, Foxy Brown, Rico Nasty, Saweetie, Bia, Tyla. You can sell that. Easy.
If you have to add some fellas: Trey Songz and ASAP Rocky. Boom. Big tour.

 

[4 Dimensional]

Doja Cat has a full Arena show. She's a headliner at this point. The rest of them are openers who should be doing clubs.

You're not wrong. That's on the promoters for putting together a wack show.

But, imagine this lineup:
Doja Cat, Foxy Brown, Rico Nasty, Saweetie, Bia, Tyla. You can sell that. Easy.
If you have to add some fellas: Trey Songz and ASAP Rocky. Boom. Big tour.

I’m sure it could work. I’m trying not to think of this from a personal perspective because I don’t really mess with any of those artist at all.

From a promotional POV and for someone putting acts together to appease a broader crowd demographic, I can see the possibilities.

 

[dik cashmere]

 

[geechiedan]

DUDE NEEDS TO STOP DRIVING DISTRACTED.

 

[geechiedan]

*morgan freeman voice over*

This was the day that Meth and Red discovered they were no longer relevant to today's Black youth..."

But bad billing line ups happen all the time....back in the day Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkeys..to boos and silence.

Early Prince opened for the RollingStones....they threw bottles at him.

Truth be known Meth and Red are an OLDIES act as much as Smokey Robinson and the Temptations were to us in the 80s...theyre greatest hits were 25+ years ago.

 

[jackson35]

the point is he was there to promote his brand and hopefully get some ass, he was there to represent hip hop at its purest.

 

[geechiedan]

the point is he was there to promote his brand and hopefully get some ass, he was there to represent hip hop at its purest.

this is what hip hop is to this generation

 

[Complex]

Thats because the sampling stopped.
36 mafia was getting their 4th wind when they started sampling their songs. No knowing 36 sampled from older songs.

Sampling is still prevalent. Glorilla has sampled 36.

Heck, Metro sampled





It's on young people to educate themselves. When rap sampled R&B in the 90's I looked at CD liners. Young people have everything in the palm of their hand. They can google and stream everything, but it hasn't made them anymore knowledgeable.

 

[jackson35]

this is what hip hop is to this generation

no that is porn with music added. meth and redman is offering another form of entertainment.

 

[keone]

Sampling is still prevalent. Glorilla has sampled 36.

Heck, Metro sampled





It's on young people to educate themselves. When rap sampled R&B in the 90's I looked at CD liners. Young people have everything in the palm of their hand. They can google and stream everything, but it hasn't made them anymore knowledgeable.

Thats what am saying the young rappers started sampling 36. Which made 36 on again. Hell juice was on a good run few years ago.

My point is they are not sampling from the original cause it cost too much money and they just dont know. But thats cause somewhere In the 2000 people started playing their own melodies. It was just costing too much.
And nobody wants a puff or lord tariq and Peter gunz story.

 

[geechiedan]

no that is porn with music added. meth and redman is offering another form of entertainment.

honestly...meth and red are part of the problem.....you dont get sexyredd and that without them doing what they did in the culture.

 

[playahaitian]

@4 Dimensional @woodchuck @jack walsh13 @therealjondoe

 

[woodchuck]

@4 Dimensional @woodchuck @jack walsh13 @therealjondoe

To an extent, I agree that the radio station is between a rock and a hard place.

 

[playahaitian]

To an extent, I agree that the radio station is between a rock and a hard place.

Do you think Meth was wrong to make this big public announcement

 

[woodchuck]

Do you think Meth was wrong to make this big public announcement

Now that, I wouldn't have done.

 

[geechiedan]

Do you think Meth was wrong to make this big public announcement

I dont think whether it was right or wrong really matters...the people he was performing in front of weren't there to see him. So his rant just comes off as older gen griping. He vented publicly but its not going to change anything.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Why would they even ask Meth and Red to go based on that line up?!?? That’s like Asking for LL cool J to perform at a Lil Yachty show.

 

[playahaitian]

I dont think whether it was right or wrong really matters...the people he was performing in front of weren't there to see him. So his rant just comes off as older gen griping. He vented publicly but its not going to change anything.

Yeah it matters. He shouldn't have done it. It didn't HELP and probably hurt more because I've noticed the sentiment seems to be that HE was the issue here.

Meth is a legend legend. And he understands how ALL this works better than most

I get it though - sometimes reality slaps you in the face no matter how prepared you THINK you are.

 

[playahaitian]

To an extent, I agree that the radio station is between a rock and a hard place.

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

No, you have to trash the new generation music taste because it’s trash. Even my mom back in the 90s used to love 90s hip-hop because it was coherent. The new shit that is out right now is mostly crap and incoherent.

 

[grownazzblakman]

We really have to stop thinking like this. This is why very little musical legacy is passed on. We don't pass it down like others do.
Go to a show with white 90s artists (Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Beck, etc.) and you see generations at the shows. White folks bring their teens. Paramore's lead singer pulled a mom and her daughter out of the crowd at a concert in Seattle to help her sing one of her songs and both the mom and the daughter knew all of the words. That shit was great. We have to do that shit so that our artists retain their value, too.

I understand why he feels the way he feels. When he was younger, the crowd listening to him was younger. He was new, hip-hop was younger; the crowd was experiencing them for the first time. He wants that feeling when he performs.
He has to understand how the younger gen moves at shows. Most of them have their cameras out recording. They don't live in the moment like we did. Also, he is not their music; he is their parents' music. They are going to be more hyped about Tyler or Tyga or Jack Harlow or Russ. Those are their contemporaries. That is reality. If they just put on a good show, they will gain some new fans as well as some young gen respect. Blow the young cats off the stage and they will want to be like you. You have to show them why they should respect you.

*morgan freeman voice over*

This was the day that Meth and Red discovered they were no longer relevant to today's Black youth..."

But bad billing line ups happen all the time....back in the day Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkeys..to boos and silence.

Early Prince opened for the RollingStones....they threw bottles at him.

Truth be known Meth and Red are an OLDIES act as much as Smokey Robinson and the Temptations were to us in the 80s...theyre greatest hits were 25+ years ago.

honestly...meth and red are part of the problem.....you dont get sexyredd and that without them doing what they did in the culture.

To an extent, I agree that the radio station is between a rock and a hard place.

Do you think Meth was wrong to make this big public announcement

I dont think whether it was right or wrong really matters...the people he was performing in front of weren't there to see him. So his rant just comes off as older gen griping. He vented publicly but its not going to change anything.

Why would they even ask Meth and Red to go based on that line up?!?? That’s like Asking for LL cool J to perform at a Lil Yachty show.

Redman & Method Man are TRUE lyricists.
They have "Hall of Fame" level rap talent.

But this young Hot 97 generation don't give 2 shits about lyrics.

Unfortunately, this is exactly what the current Hot 97 generation thinks about 90s rappers like Redman, Method Man & Common... or anyone else from the (0s Golden Era...



Look at the clothing & whatnot. He's making fun of 90s rappers.

That's what 90s rap sounds like to them.
That's why these types of videos get made in the first place.

 

[MistaPhantastic]

Redman & Method Man are TRUE lyricists.
They have "Hall of Fame" level rap talent.

But this young Hot 97 generation don't give 2 shits about lyrics.

Unfortunately, this is exactly what the current Hot 97 generation thinks about 90s rappers like Redman, Method Man & Common... or anyone else from the (0s Golden Era...



Look at the clothing & whatnot. He's making fun of 90s rappers.

That's what 90s rap sounds like to them.
That's why these types of videos get made in the first place.

...and they are not going to change that (if they care to) by NOT performing in front of them. Its not what all of them think. Some of them know but many just need a point of connection that they can relate to.

 

[geechiedan]

Yeah it matters. He shouldn't have done it. It didn't HELP and probably hurt more because I've noticed the sentiment seems to be that HE was the issue here.

Meth is a legend legend. And he understands how ALL this works better than most

I get it though - sometimes reality slaps you in the face no matter how prepared you THINK you are.

If meth was acting like a diva because he is an elderstatesmen in the music and rap culture then he came in with an expectation of adoration and hype from the audience. And when he didnt get it or to the degree he's accustomed to he flared up about it.

Thats no different from anyone in his position...you dont think Whitney Houston or James Brown or Prince or hell even Barbra Streisand wouldnt have made the same complaints to the press? It is what it is...we did it to the older gens for us and the young bucks are doing it to us now....nasty tasting medicine aint it?

the ONLY consolation we have is that its GONNA happen to these young gippergappers one day soon...2 decades tend to fly by when youre not paying attention...and they gonna get a taste of that shit too...

 

[Darkness's]

They have to do shows with them. Contemperarieslike this rock the bells cruise coming in November

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Back in 2022 miami was supposed to have a slip n slide cash money no limit reunion concert but mystikal got hit with another sexual assault charge.

 

[geechiedan]

 

[Dr. Truth]

I’d tear that pussy open god I want to go in raw

 

[Mr. Met]

 

[Dr. Truth]

Crowd looked just as dead

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Man meth last hotness was ‘98

He playing himself if he thinks we took him seriously as a artist past the year 1999.

Had to go make songs wit limp bizkit

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Crowd looked just as dead

And steeley Dan gets paid first

Lord tariq and Peter guns album > that blackout 90 second shit rockwilder song

If shotgun isn’t with the clan then I ain’t tryna hear it