Yeah, they would have had him jobbing to guys half his size. That's always bothered me in AEW. They always seem to have smaller wrestlers go over their monster sized guys. Wardlow, Archer, Brian Cage, Nyla Rose all job (regularly) for smaller talent.....

TK pushes wrestlers based on how OVER the wrestler is not how big or small they are. Just because someone is big doesn't mean they should automatically go over someone that's small. For example Riho is over with the fanbase Nyla Rose is not. Therefore Riho gets the push. It's not really all that complicated.
 
TK pushes wrestlers based on how OVER the wrestler is not how big or small they are. Just because someone is big doesn't mean they should automatically go over someone that's small. For example Riho is over with the fanbase Nyla Rose is not. Therefore Riho gets the push. It's not really all that complicated.
OVER? With who, the AEW base or general fans? Lolz

So Hobbs lost to Dante because Dante was more OVER than Hobbs?
So Wardlow chumps out to Adam Cole because Cole is that much OVER?

These wrestlers are not OVER, the company is just practicing nonsensical booking. No wonder AEW cannot grow their audience. They are a TV show and television is all about visual representation and the more this company refuses to push their bigger talents in preference to these smaller sized wrestlers is killing audiences. Don't even get me started in the way their talent present themselves, where wardrobe would do much to sell the fact that they are stars....
 
Now if Sexy Red was on AEW that shyt would be trash. On NXT...silence. Bron Breaker has gone on a tour of whuppin on Ricochet. Another white dude getting a Brock/Goldberg push at the black man's expense. None of the criticism that AEW gets with Hobbs and Swerve. I get that ya'll like one brand over the other but DAMN!!! WWE has 10 top wrestlers hurt right now three 40 or over everybody can't wait for them to come back. Edge, his old ass should have known better!!! Do ya'll turn that cynical part of your brain off when it comes to WWE?
 
Now if Sexy Red was on AEW that shyt would be trash. On NXT...silence. Bron Breaker has gone on a tour of whuppin on Ricochet. Another white dude getting a Brock/Goldberg push at the black man's expense. None of the criticism that AEW gets with Hobbs and Swerve. I get that ya'll like one brand over the other but DAMN!!! WWE has 10 top wrestlers hurt right now three in their 40's everybody can't wait for them to come back. Edge, his old ass should have known better!!! Do ya'll turn that cynical part of your brain off when it comes to WWE?
Gtfoh NXT is the goofy development league that has all sorts of weird shit going on lol Tony would pay sexy red 4 million dollars and have her beat moné on a ppv in her first match lol

Bron breaker is more charismatic and interesting than ricochet, ricochet is mid as fuck which is why aew should take his flippy ass lol can't compare ricochet to swerve who a majority of the AEW fanbase actually cares about and is ya know the world champion. But nice try making it about race lmao aew fans I swear you guys live in a different reality! LMFAO Also even edge said he should have known better so what are you talking about?

There's literally no more defensive fanbase than Aew marks, and there's a reason. Deep down you all know you're backing a losing horse with a hobbled leg that was lit on fire by Darby Allen with a Elon musk flamethrower

None of those hurt people you mentioned are 50 and none for them got hurt jumping off a steel cage at 50 in a poorly done spot.
 

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Gtfoh NXT is the goofy development league that has all sorts of weird shit going on lol Tony would pay sexy red 4 million dollars and have her beat moné on a ppv in her first match lol

Bron breaker is more charismatic and interesting than ricochet, ricochet is mid as fuck which is why aew should take his flippy ass lol can't compare ricochet to swerve who a majority of the AEW fanbase actually cares about and is ya know the world champion. But nice try making it about race lmao aew fans I swear you guys live in a different reality! LMFAO Also even edge said he should have known better so what are you talking about?

There's literally no more defensive fanbase than Aew marks, and there's a reason. Deep down you all know you're backing a losing horse with a hobbled leg that was lit on fire by Darby Allen with a Elon musk flamethrower

None of those hurt people you mentioned are 50 and none for them got hurt jumping off a steel cage at 50 in a poorly done spot.
Dog, I don't know if you noticed or not. But the last three years I have been equally as critical of AEW versus WWE! Nice try with changing the narrative.

If AEW is the indy neck beard crowd why not accept it as it is? Instead folks is critical and rightfully so, why not extend that same grace? If NXT is the goofy development league how are they development with a TV deal? Better yet you want to talk about goofy WWE Speed? I didn't notice a lot of venom for that shyt.

Dog is is ALWAYS about race with wrestling! Ricochet wins that Speed shyt very little mention on the main brand only to be targeted week after week. Guess it cost too much to beat up on local guys when Ricochet ain't doing shyt! It was two people standing there. Nope not going to go after the new guy, I'll take out established wrestler that is Vince level writing (see Miz losing in his home state) I am telling you now these three are going to keep having matches and Ricochet is gonna be the only one that DOESN'T win! But I LOVE being wrong, so I hope I am!

Being old and poorly done spots are WRESTLINGS bread and butter! I know they're not 50, that's why I said 40 or over. Was it necessary for Seth Rollins to come out at Wrestlemania with an already fcuked up leg? The spot for Big E eating a belly to belly overhead suplex really needed?

Also Ricochet didn't have this mid problem in NXT. Wonder what has changed since???
 
OVER? With who, the AEW base or general fans? Lolz

Who exactly are the general fans? Casuals? We went down this road before.

So Hobbs lost to Dante because Dante was more OVER than Hobbs?

At the time yes.

So Wardlow chumps out to Adam Cole because Cole is that much OVER?

Yes sir.

These wrestlers are not OVER, the company is just practicing nonsensical booking. No wonder AEW cannot grow their audience.

If you say so.

They are a TV show and television is all about visual representation and the more this company refuses to push their bigger talents in preference to these smaller sized wrestlers is killing audiences.

I guess if you're a smaller wrestler why even bother to become a wrestler in the first place because in the world of @EPDC you should NEVER get pushed over a bigger sized wrestler. A TV show it's just that a TV show not real life. People tune in or not tune in for a variety of reasons. This whole narrative that a wrestler has to be a certain size is retarded.

Don't even get me started in the way their talent present themselves, where wardrobe would do much to sell the fact that they are stars....

There's nothing to get started on. YOU have YOUR preferences and OTHER people have THEIRS.
 
Who exactly are the general fans? Casuals? We went down this road before.
The fans that AEW has bleed due to shitty presentation and writing on their TV show.
At the time yes.
Only to the AEW base
See above
If you say so.
I'm not the only one who said so, cats in this very thread have said so. So have the audiences that have turned off AEW TV, the one that isn't growing nor being retained.
I guess if you're a smaller wrestler why even bother to become a wrestler in the first place because in the world of @EPDC you should NEVER get pushed over a bigger sized wrestler. A TV show it's just that a TV show not real life. People tune in or not tune in for a variety of reasons. This whole narrative that a wrestler has to be a certain size is retarded.
Did I say they should never get pushed over larger wrestlers? I gave examples of how AEW typically does so, and in doing so, it becomes difficult to ignore and basically feeds into the notion @God-Of-War-420 said above about TK booking his dreams and fantasies
There's nothing to get started on. YOU have YOUR preferences and OTHER people have THEIRS.
AEWs stars, for the most part, dress like they belong in the crowd. No one cares about people who don't look like stars. See my point above about their lack of audience growth/retention.
 
AEWs stars, for the most part, dress like they belong in the crowd. No one cares about people who don't look like stars. See my point above about their lack of audience growth/retention.
My grandmother said something similar to this when she saw my Tracy Chapman CD. "She don't look like a singer!!!" That thinking takes away from what that artist is comfortable in. Not everyone is gonna dress like a Ric Flair or Cody Rhodes. By this thinking Phonte shouldn't have fans due to him not dressing like your usual rapper/artist. John Fetterman shouldn't be a politician (he shouldn't because of him hitting progressives with the okey-doke, but that isn't the thread for that) because he doesn't dress like a senator.
 
Now if Sexy Red was on AEW that shyt would be trash. On NXT...silence. Bron Breaker has gone on a tour of whuppin on Ricochet. Another white dude getting a Brock/Goldberg push at the black man's expense. None of the criticism that AEW gets with Hobbs and Swerve. I get that ya'll like one brand over the other but DAMN!!! WWE has 10 top wrestlers hurt right now three 40 or over everybody can't wait for them to come back. Edge, his old ass should have known better!!! Do ya'll turn that cynical part of your brain off when it comes to WWE?
You’re not being cynical….first off let’s understand first that AEW and WWE are two different promotions which you know I’m sure. One focuses on wrestling and one focuses on entertainment. So yes a R Truth segment might work in WWE but look crazy in AEW.

Sexy Red was good on NxT. This stuff works when the celebrity is having a good time and it’s natural. Works with Logan Paul, works with Bad Bunny and she was good as well. Some people just have charisma and naturally have it. A lot of wrestlers don’t.

Edge old ass had no business jumping off that cage. That’s just a fact. It made no sense.

As far as Swerve goes he’s being pushed silly.

Where were you when people shitted on WWE every week when it was shitty?
 
My grandmother said something similar to this when she saw my Tracy Chapman CD. "She don't look like a singer!!!" That thinking takes away from what that artist is comfortable in. Not everyone is gonna dress like a Ric Flair or Cody Rhodes. By this thinking Phonte shouldn't have fans due to him not dressing like your usual rapper/artist. John Fetterman shouldn't be a politician (he shouldn't because of him hitting progressives with the okey-doke, but that isn't the thread for that) because he doesn't dress like a senator.
Wrestling Television shows are a visual medium. If people look like bums on TV, that's the audience you're going to attract.

People will judge a book by it's cover and the same goes with television characters on a Live Action wrestling show.

Why do you think most women reporters or weather girls on television for the most part are women you'd want to fuck?

Because TV people know attractive looking people draw eyes.

You might be able to get away with it if you're booking a well written program. AEW needs all the help it can get and not having their talent look the part isn't helping. If you don't have a wardrobe budget, or look like shit, you're going to draw like shit.
 
My grandmother said something similar to this when she saw my Tracy Chapman CD. "She don't look like a singer!!!" That thinking takes away from what that artist is comfortable in. Not everyone is gonna dress like a Ric Flair or Cody Rhodes. By this thinking Phonte shouldn't have fans due to him not dressing like your usual rapper/artist. John Fetterman shouldn't be a politician (he shouldn't because of him hitting progressives with the okey-doke, but that isn't the thread for that) because he doesn't dress like a senator.

BING-FUCKIN-O!
 
Now if Sexy Red was on AEW that shyt would be trash. On NXT...silence. Bron Breaker has gone on a tour of whuppin on Ricochet. Another white dude getting a Brock/Goldberg push at the black man's expense. None of the criticism that AEW gets with Hobbs and Swerve. I get that ya'll like one brand over the other but DAMN!!! WWE has 10 top wrestlers hurt right now three 40 or over everybody can't wait for them to come back. Edge, his old ass should have known better!!! Do ya'll turn that cynical part of your brain off when it comes to WWE?
Sexy Red is trash and misnamed but she's on the 3rd brand tucked away.
As for Bron he's being booked how Hobbs should have been the 1st, 2nd,3rd or 4th time and he also whooped on Ilja in addition to Ricochet. When Brock runs thru Kofi who was world champion there is every reason to have an issue but when Bron runs thru Ricochet, an established midcarder, what issue is there to be had really?
AEW is having their injuries while only doing TV. No house shows or anything of that ilk in that company whereas the WWE is still doing shows outside of TV and none of them have been hurt doing something ridiculous like jumping off of the top of a cage at 50 years old. WWE deserves criticism but sometimes it seems like some people are looking to make criticisms that they ignore certain things like AEWs relatively light schedule in comparison.
Swerve was being praised while the WWE was being criticized for mishandling him. Criticism starred towards AEW, not Swerve, for not pushing him as their champion and leaving him looking weak from damn near the start of his title reign. If he was being booked as strongly as Moxley nothing would be said
 
Sexy Red is trash and misnamed but she's on the 3rd brand tucked away.
As for Bron he's being booked how Hobbs should have been the 1st, 2nd,3rd or 4th time and he also whooped on Ilja in addition to Ricochet. When Brock runs thru Kofi who was world champion there is every reason to have an issue but when Bron runs thru Ricochet, an established midcarder, what issue is there to be had really?
AEW is having their injuries while only doing TV. No house shows or anything of that ilk in that company whereas the WWE is still doing shows outside of TV and none of them have been hurt doing something ridiculous like jumping off of the top of a cage at 50 years old. WWE deserves criticism but sometimes it seems like some people are looking to make criticisms that they ignore certain things like AEWs relatively light schedule in comparison.
Swerve was being praised while the WWE was being criticized for mishandling him. Criticism starred towards AEW, not Swerve, for not pushing him as their champion and leaving him looking weak from damn near the start of his title reign. If he was being booked as strongly as Moxley nothing would be said
AEW isn't making Swerve look weak as their champion!!...It called story lines and building up feuds for their ppvs!!...Swerve is playing the babyface role now...Babyface wrestlers that has a championship belt always get their ass kick to sell the story lines and feuds with a wrestler at first..but when they fight, usually the babyface comes out on top!!....AEW sees that Swerve is a good champion for them ..They are pushing him more!!..

Also, Moxley got his ass kick alot when he had played the babyface champion at AEW..But, came out on top and put on good matches like Swerve is doing now!!....It's no difference!!..
 
AEW isn't making Swerve look weak as their champion!!...It called story lines and building up feuds for their ppvs!!...Swerve is playing the babyface role now...Babyface wrestlers that has a championship belt always get their ass kick to sell the story lines and feuds with a wrestler at first..but when they fight, usually the babyface comes out on top!!....AEW sees that Swerve is a good champion for them ..They are pushing him more!!..

Also, Moxley got his ass kick alot when he had played the babyface champion at AEW..But, came out on top and put on good matches like Swerve is doing now!!....It's no difference!!..
Fam I disagree, they are absolutely making Swerve look not only weak, but, he's not even looking like the top guy. How TF do you have a show with your world champion, but the main even it another company's champion? Swerve's title reign up to this point has been forgettable, the story with Christian was been, decent at best. This should have elevated his status, instead, he feels the same as he did before, only they put the title on him, and that's the only change, they added the belt.
 
Fam I disagree, they are absolutely making Swerve look not only weak, but, he's not even looking like the top guy. How TF do you have a show with your world champion, but the main even it another company's champion? Swerve's title reign up to this point has been forgettable, the story with Christian was been, decent at best. This should have elevated his status, instead, he feels the same as he did before, only they put the title on him, and that's the only change, they added the belt.

Who was the main event from another company??
 
You’re not being cynical….first off let’s understand first that AEW and WWE are two different promotions which you know I’m sure. One focuses on wrestling and one focuses on entertainment. So yes a R Truth segment might work in WWE but look crazy in AEW.
How does a R-Truth segment work in WWE? That shyt seems REAL minstrel-ly, but he's a tag champ. So that nullifies it?
Sexy Red was good on NxT. This stuff works when the celebrity is having a good time and it’s natural. Works with Logan Paul, works with Bad Bunny and she was good as well. Some people just have charisma and naturally have it. A lot of wrestlers don’t.
A Sexy Red on TV (and I am biased cause I think she's an industry plant to poison the youth) wasn't good. She couldn't finish a sentence with out turning to shake her ass. On a unrelated rant, when your excuse for not inducting Chyna into the HOF is because of kids looking her up...so where those same kids NOT watching NXT?!
Edge old ass had no business jumping off that cage. That’s just a fact. It made no sense.
But it's not like he came back and went straight to AEW as a 50 year old. What, two years he was having similar matches in WWE doing the same damn thing. Those WWE matches fighting off of a tractor trailer didn't make sense either?
As far as Swerve goes he’s being pushed silly.
Not arguing that AEW isn't a dumpster fire. When people do things right, I call it out. When they don't I call that out too.
Where were you when people shitted on WWE every week when it was shitty?
I was there shytting on WWE. You guys act like I am defending AEW and only cynical with WWE. Three years ago that WAS me, I gave them two years to get their shyt together and realistically two years isn't enough time, but I can see the writing on the wall that things aren't getting better. WWE has gotten phenomenally better. I will always have issues with it's black wrestlers, so that doesn't seem to be a thing that will ever change.
 
Wrestling Television shows are a visual medium. If people look like bums on TV, that's the audience you're going to attract.

People will judge a book by it's cover and the same goes with television characters on a Live Action wrestling show.

Why do you think most women reporters or weather girls on television for the most part are women you'd want to fuck?

Because TV people know attractive looking people draw eyes.

You might be able to get away with it if you're booking a well written program. AEW needs all the help it can get and not having their talent look the part isn't helping. If you don't have a wardrobe budget, or look like shit, you're going to draw like shit.
And this is why a Drake or a Sexy Red can become as popular as they are. Folks can't see beyond what's in front of their face. If Nia Jax was 100lbs lighter folks wouldn't have a problem with her shytty wrestling.

Nope not gonna judge folks on the content of their music or the matches they put on. Nope, you're not a star cause of the way you dress.

We was cool before @EPDC, but now we got a blood feud going cause YOU'RE the reason why Drake is a thing!
 
How does a R-Truth segment work in WWE? That shyt seems REAL minstrel-ly, but he's a tag champ. So that nullifies it?

A Sexy Red on TV (and I am biased cause I think she's an industry plant to poison the youth) wasn't good. She couldn't finish a sentence with out turning to shake her ass. On a unrelated rant, when your excuse for not inducting Chyna into the HOF is because of kids looking her up...so where those same kids NOT watching NXT?!

But it's not like he came back and went straight to AEW as a 50 year old. What, two years he was having similar matches in WWE doing the same damn thing. Those WWE matches fighting off of a tractor trailer didn't make sense either?

Not arguing that AEW isn't a dumpster fire. When people do things right, I call it out. When they don't I call that out too.

I was there shytting on WWE. You guys act like I am defending AEW and only cynical with WWE. Three years ago that WAS me, I gave them two years to get their shyt together and realistically two years isn't enough time, but I can see the writing on the wall that things aren't getting better. WWE has gotten phenomenally better. I will always have issues with it's black wrestlers, so that doesn't seem to be a thing that will ever change.
Naw when it comes to R Truth he plays the comedic role. I don’t see ministrel show….

Sexy Red did what she was suppose to do. She’s 26 or 27. She’s a student of what she saw growing up. 2000’s wrestling. Shawn Michaels, DX, Flair….not a fan of her music but she seems to be doing side missions and having fun. I can hate the system but I can’t be mad at her for being victim of it. Attitude era had far worse lol. Shaking her cheeks ain’t never hurt nobody lol.


As far as Chyna goes we know her not being in has nothing to do with her explicit past. Macho Man ain’t in there either. When guys aren’t in I assumed it was something personal.

I have no issue with Edge. I thought that tractor scene was a cinematic match for Edge? Either way Edge is kill but jumping from the top or the cage and landing on your feet can’t be good for any wrestler let alone a 50 year old. Just wasn’t a smart spot and the pay off wasn’t worth it IMO.

With Swerve I seen this coming from a mile away. People kept making excuses for it and I had a feeling he was gonna be a champ that has the title but is secondary. Just put it on Ospreay and call it a day. Pandering to black history month ain’t it either.
 
Macho Man ain’t in there either.
Macho Man was inducted fam. His brother Leaping Lanny Poffo inducted him in 2014/15ish

Chyna was inducted with DX. When Triple H made that statement, it was around the time she was fucking on camera, before she died.

I can see her possibly being inducted as a solo act in the future, but her place in history is there, alongside DX....
 
Moxley IWGP Champion, which is, NEW Japan's championship. It's not AEWs, and you can come with the working partnership, he's still the champion for another company, and it should not be featured over the AEW world champion, especially when both are performing.

On AEW TV the main event spot ISN'T where you want to be. Dynamite is at its most watched in the first 30 minutes of the show, so you want your World champion doing something in that time period and not the main event. Yeah, Moxley was in the main event but how many people watched it compared to the opening of the show. TK books his shows around viewership peaks and how to maintain that peak. That's why the women are usually put in the second hour because they can't maintain a viewership.
 
Sexy Red is trash and misnamed but she's on the 3rd brand tucked away.
...so? That shyt comes on the same channel as the 1st brand!!! THEN they do social media! How is that tucked away?!?!?!

<RantNotDirectedAtBGOL>Look I am can't say this anymore I am not a AEW apologist, but the excuses being made for WWE by the same people for the same vein of shyt that AEW does is mind boggling. At the very least the AEW apologist here claim that shyt. Some of ya'll just move the goal post and then make excuses. I fcuked up...but I fcuked up BETTER!!!</RantNotDirectedAtBGOL>
As for Bron he's being booked how Hobbs should have been the 1st, 2nd,3rd or 4th time and he also whooped on Ilja in addition to Ricochet. When Brock runs thru Kofi who was world champion there is every reason to have an issue but when Bron runs thru Ricochet, an established midcarder, what issue is there to be had really?
You mean how Wardlow was booked?! So AEW knows how to book a big man. Just not black men
 
Macho Man was inducted fam. His brother Leaping Lanny Poffo inducted him in 2014/15ish

Chyna was inducted with DX. When Triple H made that statement, it was around the time she was fucking on camera, before she died.

I can see her possibly being inducted as a solo act in the future, but her place in history is there, alongside DX....
Damn my fault I could’ve swore they was holding out on putting him in. I remember Chyna went in with DX but she deserves that spot by herself she did some good stuff without DX.
 
Moxley IWGP Champion, which is, NEW Japan's championship. It's not AEWs, and you can come with the working partnership, he's still the champion for another company, and it should not be featured over the AEW world champion, especially when both are performing.
TK is letting his wrestlers get top title belts from other promotions, Kenny had the AAA belt and Mox now with the IGPW title because of his weak ass booking. Instead of making interesting storylines he lends his top guys out.

He got Osprey and Okada with those mid belts, MJF back, Kenny will be back soon. TK was getting big props by having his 4 first 4 title winners booked as he wanted to but NFL coaches script their first 15 plays and make adjustments after.

Of the 4 Pillars of AEW, MJF is the only one has top guy potential. I'm not a Brit Baker fan but she was the top female star for a long time but now she's nowhere to find.
 
TK is letting his wrestlers get top title belts from other promotions, Kenny had the AAA belt and Mox now with the IGPW title because of his weak ass booking. Instead of making interesting storylines he lends his top guys out.

He got Osprey and Okada with those mid belts, MJF back, Kenny will be back soon. TK was getting big props by having his 4 first 4 title winners booked as he wanted to but NFL coaches script their first 15 plays and make adjustments after.

Of the 4 Pillars of AEW, MJF is the only one has top guy potential. I'm not a Brit Baker fan but she was the top female star for a long time but now she's nowhere to find.
How does any of this help Swerve who is supposed to be the top guy in the company....also while you think about your answer, understand, I've been watching and supporting AEW since day 1, so trying to give "TK Logic" like i don't understand whats happening, aint it...Nothing you mentioned should take presidence over the AEW Championship, Nothing....
 
On AEW TV the main event spot ISN'T where you want to be. Dynamite is at its most watched in the first 30 minutes of the show, so you want your World champion doing something in that time period and not the main event. Yeah, Moxley was in the main event but how many people watched it compared to the opening of the show. TK books his shows around viewership peaks and how to maintain that peak. That's why the women are usually put in the second hour because they can't maintain a viewership.

If he booked his world champion, like the fuckin world champion and the championship meant something, people would tune in to see him, no matter what the time was that he was on! How the fuck is this so hard to understand? The booking is why shits going the way it is. You got a 2 hour time slot to make people care about your product, and he shits it aways every damn week. Not only is AEW not adding new fans in the 5 years they've been around, they're losing fans.... you can blame the NBA, NHL, NCAA, whoever you want, but people aren't showing up and they're not watching....and it's because of, say it with me, the booking!!!

To be clear, this ain't a shot at you, this venting frustration over this fuckin company
 
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How does any of this help Swerve who is supposed to be the top guy in the company....also while you think about your answer, understand, I've been watching and supporting AEW since day 1, so trying to give "TK Logic" like i don't understand whats happening, aint it...Nothing you mentioned should take presidence over the AEW Championship, Nothing....
Unless it's a CAC, TK doesn't book his champion as if he were the top guy on the roster...
 
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