Kendrick Lamar disses Drake & J Cole on Metro Boomin & Futures Album/ Rick Ross Responds/ Kanye Responds/Kendrick Responds 4X / Drake Responds 3X
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Every thing you said says you have no street knowledge and don’t understand gang culture in the black community…
Respectfully where are you from?!?
You have to be fool to have gang affiliations and not be in the streets. Niggas just would be extorting you.
I grew up in the grimmest parts of Miami and I have boys who are street niggas but that’s where it ends.
Heads know what bars are.
His flow, delivery and message is corny af by rap standards. Can he do it? Absolutely. That being said, anybody can. Is it any good? Meh..
But again I ask, where are these bars? Specifically. I’ve googled his “greatest bars” and they aren’t anything special.
You, or anyone else here, can point them out cause I see what most of hip hop emcees sees and thats overhyped averageness coming out his mouth.
Yeah Drake could get Taylor on the hook and it would be a pop smash. Or that wigga could grab a pencil and make something suspenseful. This ain't about club bangers this about barz. Ya man's is on the clock. Tick tock.
I am from Dade county born and raised in Miami. Having gang affiliations is the dumbest shit a person can do.
You got to be man enough to stand on your own and know when to go home. Either you in the gang or not. My hood respected me because I was upfront and let it be known certain things were off limit for me.
I have seen niggas get pressed all the time and that ain’t away to live.
I hear what you are saying but it would depend on what you consider bars. I am from the bottom ( Dade county) so I grew up on simple story telling of Poison Clan and JT money. So I gravitate towards story telling vs New York style lyricism
Nah he actually got quite a few.
Not the mall walking stuff.
The real rap stuff.
I will defend that part 2 he dropped with Cole to the death. Solid solid project.
Even when you stab me in back the vest is metal plated.
Unfortunately that line hit home at a particular time and red button was my theme song.
And ALL his time stamp tracks.
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Bars are wit. Bars are intelligence. Bars are IQ. Bars are imagery. Depth, quality, character. Bars are bringing the streets and real life situations to your ears. Bars are poetic. Educational, inspiring, and not easily digested. Bars are an undeniable truth manifested through the eyes of an emcee. Bars are G Rap “giving niggas more flat lines than loose leaf.” Bars are Joell Ortiz saying he gon “always be in first like the clutch broke.” Bars are Masta Ace saying his “mental energy is higher than anything that can be rolled and set on fire.”
And at its core, bars are shared culture. A shared community. A shared understanding.
“The flack from the public is nothing
I know real niggas happen to love it
If you don’t like it, then look in the mirror
Most likely you ain’t live it
So you don’t get it
You ain’t did it, so you can't vision
The picture I’m painting ain't vivid
The language I’m spitting is so foreign to ya..”
Most of this goes right over peoples heads today because critical thinking and comprehension are at an all time low and propping up fraudulence is accepted. This is the disconnect and STILL.. I remain open to these supposed bars this man can spit, so please, feel free to point them out.
I'm not talking about what the 16 year old girl would do. I'm talking about being a grown ass men and wanting to fuck 16 year old girls. Fam, as someone who works with young people, I don't see them as peers let alone anything desirable. I can also tell you there isn't much difference between the way 16 year olds and 18 year olds talk, walk, handle themselves. I remember being 25 and not even wanting to be in spots that were "18 to enter, 21 to drink." At 25 I didn't wanna be around a bunch of 18-19 year old young women. So it's weird as fuck to me when I see a grown ass 30 year old essentially redshirting a girl until she's no longer "illegal."
Honestly no one's gonna waste their time showing you bars because your mind's already made up.
The negativity you've displayed in those posts about Drake's music and bars show that there's nothing that could be posted that you'd give him credit for.
Good luck getting a reply though.
You not wrong, Not one bit.
But bro you REALLY want to sit here and point out ALL the dudes on this very board who co sign that behavior? Forget celebrities just regular men?
It's a behavior that's been tolerated for ages. And even with #metoo, r Kelly quiet on the set and the continued molestation these white female teachers do to child students?
A LOT of real people STILL try to justify it again just look at this board.
I don't know if Drake is the poster child for all that.
Fam, they're not gonna understand. It's not like it's as easy as coming of age and signing up for it like it's the Army. You grow up in the shit. In my series, I always say, "I'm thug adjacent" which is essentially the same as being affiliated. I grew up with the goons who weren't always goons. We were little kids playing hide and seek at one point. We were goofy snot noses in elementary playing two hand touch football at recess. We played Summer League and took neighborhood bus trips to Six Flags. Fought different blocks when we were little. As we got older we went down different paths but they're still my friends. I'm tall so I played ball, they trapped. Basketball allowed me opportunities like college that they didn't necessarily have. I had an active father who made me go away to college since he knew if I went to Temple or Penn either I'd be on the block after class, or the block would be on campus. And while I still hung on the corner with them when I was home, when it was time to get active they'd always tell me to step off. They always protected me. And this is how I know Kendrick is legit because he talks about the survivor's guilt associated with being able to "make it" while your friends didn't. It could be one decision. It could be one talent the others didn't have. It could be one parent.
Not for nothing, LA shit is way different too because if you're born into a family, or born on a certain block, it doesn't matter if you're jumped in or not, you're still affiliated because you're from that area or have that last name.
Again, I’m open to anyone proving me .. or this hip hop game … wrong. It’s all anyone been asking of this dude.
I can’t help he’s making everyone’s mind up, with exception to his Stan’s and apologists.
Less chat, more proof.
“We don’t believe you, you need more people.”
Yeah I'm the same way. But I always dated/attracted older chicks..i was 14 and dating 19 year old chicks in high school....I'd fuck some chicks around my age but the
vibration/maturity/intelligence was different...by the time I hit my 20s there ain't no way I could consider fucking with any teenage bitch or even a 21 year old.
It's WILD when I think about them freshies and guidos in their late 20s coming to our high schools to check out girls in their early teens
We’ll see just how good Drake’s pen is when he releases his response. Kendrick did some nasty work and it’s just light work at this point. Drake ain’t going to get cred for other people’s work at this point. He’s going to have to be HIM on the mic. Push Ups was cool, but Kendrick just proved that ain’t going to cut it. Either you’re a real MC or just a rapper. There’s no such thing is halfway crooks at this point.
If niccas want to give Drake a pass because he makes good songs then that’s the fucking issue. It’s not about that! Kendrick made that very clear on Euphoria. I see cats saying if Drake does halfway decent lyrically with a good beat then he’s good. What?!?! No he’s not! He better bring the fucking house down lyrically.
Think about this. Kendrick is going to make Drake be his best self. That says a lot. I believe in what Kendrick’s doing because it’s bringing the discussion of real emcees to the forefront. No more basic bitch shit. Let’s get back to the basics. It’s all fun and games but we are losing the core of the culture.
There’s no more focus on real talent anymore. Everything is gimmick work and that’s not going to cut anymore. Bring the real talent to the forefront. The gimmick shit shouldn’t be the main course. It can be an appetizer at best. That’s how it used to be. We allowed these cacs to dictate our culture. Money plays a part for sure but we got sellouts coming a dime a dozen now. That’s shit gots to end.
If niccas want to give Drake a pass because he makes good songs then that’s the fucking issue. It’s not about that! Kendrick made that very clear on Euphoria. I see cats saying if Drake does halfway decent lyrically with a good beat then he’s good. What?!?! No he’s not! He better bring the fucking house down lyrically.
Think about this. Kendrick is going to make Drake be his best self. That says a lot. I believe in what Kendrick’s doing because it’s bringing the discussion of real emcees to the forefront. No more basic bitch shit. Let’s get back to the basics. It’s all fun and games but we are losing the core of the culture.
There’s no more focus on real talent anymore. Everything is gimmick work and that’s not going to cut anymore. Bring the real talent to the forefront. The gimmick shit shouldn’t be the main course. It can be an appetizer at best. That’s how it used to be. We allowed these cacs to dictate our culture. Money plays a part for sure but we got sellouts coming a dime a dozen now. That’s shit gots to end.
Anytime you're the top dog in pop culture and have access to MILLIONS of women internationally but choose to date women 18-21, you're gonna be a poster child. Especially if you were talking to them when they were 14 or 16.
On a personal note, I had to have a long conversation with a tourmate a few years back. Clearly, we're just a bunch of writers/poets (not even close to being in Drake's stratosphere) but were blessed to be on a 25-city tour. He was in his thirties and in every city we hit he had a different body. Toronto, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Phoenix, Vegas, a different body, all over 18 but under 22 (all raw too, but that's another topic). In every city there were about 200-400 women at the shows, most of whom were GROWN grown. Almost all of them wanted to fuck. So as we're driving through the desert from Vegas to San Diego, I had to talk to this nigga. Not only was his behavior weird and reckless, but it was also bad for business (if you fuck a jawn on tour and then don't call/text them they're gonna feel a way and not come back to the show next year... and also none of their friends will either -- bad business). When we unpacked why he wanted the young jawns and not the jawns our age it was because he never got to fuck bad young jawns when he was young but the newfound popularity allowed it. I wonder if Drake is similar. Kinda like how he's now wearing all the brands (i.e. State Prop) he couldn't get (or wasn't allowed to get) when he was that age, but now can.
I'm not a Stan, a Dan, a Sylvester, a Tanner or an apologist.
I just know when someone has a shitty outlook and shitty attitude about something usually nothing's gonna change it.
Also Drake's been around for 16 years. If you haven't heard a "Bar" in 16 years, you won't hear it if posted.
Yeah I'm the same way. But I always dated/attracted older chicks..i was 14 and dating 19 year old chicks in high school....I'd fuck some chicks around my age but the
vibration/maturity/intelligence was different...by the time I hit my 20s there ain't no way I could consider fucking with any teenage bitch or even a 21 year old.
It's WILD when I think about them freshies and guidos in their late 20s coming to our high schools to check out girls in their early teens
Bro, I remember being a youngin in HS and hating that shit. The bad jawn you wanted was getting picked up by some drug dealing ass oldhead in a Lex Coupe while I was on the bus. I hated those niggas. I remember me and my homie making a promise to never be those dudes.
Man look I don't know if you're trolling or not but this not the type shit to joke about. There's nothing funny about a man over 30 having a relationship of any kind with a minor. And even though 18 is an adult technically, it's still weird as fuck to want to associate with someone that young at 30 plus years old.
And let's be clear, the comment wasn't about an 18yr old it was about him knowing her at 16 and then waiting until she was 18 before being involved with her. That is not a form of self control nor does it indicate a person has high character.
So again, if you're trolling that shit ain't funny.
I wasn’t referring to you as a stan or apologist fyi. Just speaking in a general sense.
And yes, it’s been a long ass time and folks are still questioning him.. are we all wrong? His “bars” are average at best. What’s wrong with saying they’re avergae? Why not call a spade a spade?
What’s confusing is the upgraded status to elite level emceeing by some, for some average ass raps.
That shit with Millie Bobbie Brown was weird as fuck too. Texting a 14 year old is strange, but you could let it pass if it was some mentor shit. Like he knows what it's like to be a teenage movie/TV actor. So if they were just talking about the complexities and pitfalls associated with that, I'd understand. But they were talking about relationships. What in thee unmitigated weird fuck is going on?
Man that shit is weird bro... and he keep trying to deflect from the real questionable shit he posted to make it into something else.I see that you're having some trouble over there.
Fuser clearly said that the only thing that stopped Drake from talking to that girl at 16 was the law, and his response was him waiting shows character and self control.
That's the type of pedo grooming shit that should get your ass beat on sight.
Nah bro I get what you're saying but I can't even let that slide... because my initial thought is, why go and talk to the little white girl and not the black kid?
remind us again why you did the black face thing????
I mean, you talked about wearing black face in that photo shoot because there aren't enough opportunities afforded to young black actors, so why not reach out to him? Who do you relate to more, Drake? A young female white kid or a young male black kid?
In today's climate with pedophilia and ME TOO as rampant as it is there's no way I'd leave anything open for interpretation or have it have the option to be misconstrued.
Yeah, I was trying to find an angle to give him the benefit of the doubt. But that shit is ODD as fuck. And I felt the same way when Tyga did the same thing with Kylie Jenner.