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THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!

God-Of-War-420 said:
Anyone that wants a new appreciation for how sane our resident AEW fans are, head over to the aew reddits and get a loaf of what may be an actual display of unchecked mental illness meets a wrestling fandom. It is truly a sight to behold.

Respect to our aew brothers for not making me fear for their own safety. :giggle:
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Some of those sub-reddits get DEEP into the weeds with the conspiracy theories and outright crazy notions.

I'll double down with you and thank our resident AEW fans for not being that bad.
 
Mastermind2002 said:
:lol:I didn't know Jay White, Jamie Hayter, Konosuke Takeshita, Mariah May, Lucha Brothers were in WWE? That's news to me. Your WWE bubble bias is ridiculous!
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On 15 May 2019 episode of NXT UK, Hayter made her first appearance for WWE, losing to Piper Niven in a squash match.[10][11]

Jay White /Takeshita/Lucha Brothers have all been in wrestling business for 10 -15 years and still have not been able to crack the Major League. If like an All American college player go to the CBL or G league for 10-15 years either they are not good enough for the NBA or "afraid of the grind".

Mariah May is so overrated she's the Taylor Swift of wrestling blonde hair flat ass move set looks clunky. Queen Aminata is a better worker than her.

For shits and giggles:
We could add to pre-show
Mariah May vs Liv Morgan
Jay White vs Finn Balor
Lucha Bros vs The Mysterios
Takeashita vs Nakamura
Hayter vs Lyra Valkyrie
 
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Nochturnal said:
Legit hate seeing shit like this
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You let Cody, Punk and Jade walk.

MJF, Kenny Omega, Hangman, Adam Cole and Moxley has not been around. You are trying to build a draw with the bench. I know they were injured but still TK does this thing where he features a wrestler for 3-4 weeks straight and then back to caterering to not be seen or heard of again for 3 -4 months
 
datboi said:
You let Cody, Punk and Jade walk.

MJF, Kenny Omega, Hangman, Adam Cole and Moxley has not been around. You are trying to build a draw with the bench. I know they were injured but still TK does this thing where he features a wrestler for 3-4 weeks straight and then back to caterering to not be seen or heard of again for 3 -4 months
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I know the reasoning behind it, I know the mistakes he keeps making, still hate to see this happening because that shit can lead to issues when it comes to negotiating the next tv deal, and ultimately can end the company.
 
Nochturnal said:
Legit hate seeing shit like this
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I don't put too much stock into that. Let me explain it for the 50th million time. Whenever they tape Collision or Rampage they tape it after Dynamite. The majority of the crowd starts to go home after Dynamite because if you stay throughout the Collision taping you won't get out of there until close to midnight on a Wednesday night. People got to work in the morning and aren't gonna stay up that late so when you see those empty seats that's what's happening. I know this from personal experience because I've been to at least 4 AEW shows.
 
datboi said:

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On 15 May 2019 episode of NXT UK, Hayter made her first appearance for WWE, losing to Piper Niven in a squash match.[10][11]
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I stand corrected on that. Doesn't really matter at this point. She's been a AEW World Champion and is having a successful career without needing WWE.

datboi said:
Jay White /Takeshita/Lucha Brothers have all been in wrestling business for 10 -15 years and still have not been able to crack the Major League. If like an All American college player go to the CBL or G league for 10-15 years either they are not good enough for the NBA or "afraid of the grind".
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It's not so much that as it's just different options to get paid and make it in wrestling. It use to be you needed the WWE to have a successful career but that's not the case anymore. WWE isn't the end all be all.

datboi said:
Mariah May is so overrated she's the Taylor Swift of wrestling blonde hair flat ass move set looks clunky. Queen Aminata is a better worker than her.
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I've seen larger sample size of Mariah's work to know that she's a great worker. Just going off her work in AEW isn't it. Got to go and look at those Stardom matches bro.

datboi said:
For shits and giggles:
We could add to pre-show
Mariah May vs Liv Morgan
Jay White vs Finn Balor
Lucha Bros vs The Mysterios
Takeashita vs Nakamura
Hayter vs Lyra Valkyrie
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To borrow a Hogan phase " That doesn't work for me brother".
 
Mastermind2002 said:
I don't put too much stock into that. Let me explain it for the 50th million time. Whenever they tape Collision or Rampage they tape it after Dynamite. The majority of the crowd starts to go home after Dynamite because if you stay throughout the Collision taping you won't get out of there until close to midnight on a Wednesday night. People got to work in the morning and aren't gonna stay up that late so when you see those empty seats that's what's happening. I know this from personal experience because I've been to at least 4 AEW shows.
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Yep, When I went to The AEW Dynamite show here in Atlanta in March!!...They Taped Rampage after and some people did left cause it was getting late and it's on a weekday night!!..They started at 730pm cause they taped two matches of ROH at first and then the live Dynamite show started and after The Rampage show!!...I left there around 12am!!....It was 3 shows they did that night!!...
 
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Nochturnal said:
I know the reasoning behind it, I know the mistakes he keeps making, still hate to see this happening because that shit can lead to issues when it comes to negotiating the next tv deal, and ultimately can end the company.
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I think they will be alright. They aren’t making money and aren’t interested in making money. And they still around. They will be around as long as TK pops don’t want to end it. TK in it for the long haul.
 
Mastermind2002 said:
I don't put too much stock into that. Let me explain it for the 50th million time. Whenever they tape Collision or Rampage they tape it after Dynamite. The majority of the crowd starts to go home after Dynamite because if you stay throughout the Collision taping you won't get out of there until close to midnight on a Wednesday night. People got to work in the morning and aren't gonna stay up that late so when you see those empty seats that's what's happening. I know this from personal experience because I've been to at least 4 AEW shows.
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Id stay if it’s worth it. If the show is n not moving then yeah id dip….
 
dtownsfinest said:
I think they will be alright. They aren’t making money and aren’t interested in making money. And they still around. They will be around as long as TK pops don’t want to end it. TK in it for the long haul.
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And that 2nd to last line is a big one. What billionaire do you know keeps pumping money in something that doesn't give an ROI?
 
Nochturnal said:
And that 2nd to last line is a big one. What billionaire do you know keeps pumping money in something that doesn't give an ROI?
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Bro I been asking that question since its existence….no billionaire likes to lose money so that’s why it’s interesting to me they have the approach they do. They have light work schedules and they get paid top notch. Oh and they don’t do budget cuts…..and they spend a years worth salary on music.

They have to change something in their business model. WWE has their business model for a reason. I don’t want to see AEW go out bad. Indont think no one does even if you don’t like the brand.
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Despite the AEW TV shows not living up to expectations the one thing TK does consistently get right is the ppvs. This card looks like a lot of fun. Can't wait to see it LIVE from "The Lou".

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Facts!!...This is going to be a damn good PPV... :yes: ...I'm looking forward to watching it!!..Also, You have a good time going to see the PPV Live!!...Enjoy brother!!..:thumbsup:
 
dtownsfinest said:
Bro I been asking that question since its existence….no billionaire likes to lose money so that’s why it’s interesting to me they have the approach they do. They have light work schedules and they get paid top notch. Oh and they don’t do budget cuts…..and they spend a years worth salary on music.

They have to change something in their business model. WWE has their business model for a reason. I don’t want to see AEW go out bad. Indont think no one does even if you don’t like the brand.
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I absolutely don't want them to go out of business, I don't think they're in any danger of that in the near future, but they have to be just hemorrhaging cash right now. As you said, that business model has to change, and until Tony starts to take this seriously and stop "living his personal dream" shits going to continue to be what it is. Crazy thing, it's seemingly an easy fix. Tony has to put operations in the hands of people who know what they're doing, and stop putting talent in positions of power. It's a conflict of interest no matter how much he likes them.
 
EPDC said:
Goddamn.....
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I think AEW would benefit if they would stop trying to put on a WWE mainstream show and scaled down to NXT size and scope. You would get the die-hards who are vocal at every show and put on the type of show you want to do and it would look good on television.
 
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Mastermind2002 said:
Like I said in a previous post you give the Stardom women the exposure and opportunity and they'll get over with the American audience. AZM had a solid match with Toni Storm in her first appearance on AEW TV and already got "Azumi" chants. AZM been killing it all week. Made a lot of new fans with her performances. The 21 year old phenom!









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I watched Collision this morning and this match with Toni Storm vs AZM was good!!..This is my first time seeing AZM wrestle...Man, she's pretty good!!.. :yes:
 
younggiftedandblack said:
I think AEW would benefit if they would stop trying to put on a WWE mainstream show and scaled down to NXT size and scope. You would get the die-hards who are vocal at every show and put on the type of show you want to do and it would good on television.
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I looked this up about a week ago and came across a Reddit post discussion. All sensible reasoning. Until Tony or someone in a management role speaks on it we don't know. One of their problems right now is that their marquee guys are either injured (Omega, MJF, Adam Cole who has sidelined stories twice now due to him being injured) or hiatus like Moxley. Tony Khan is just a horrible booker and should put someone else in charge of creative.

 
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